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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:14am On Feb 27, 2018
PDPGuy:
I would still start Fabregas, and add Giroud to the starting line up for the Barca game

——-Azpi—Christensen———Rudiger——-

—Moses——Fabregas—-Kante—-Alonso—-

—————Hazard———Willian————

———————-Giroud—————-

Drinkwater could come in for Fabregas in the 2nd half, if the latter is exhausted.

Giroud will obviously hold up the ball much better than Hazard; and his presence would spur more crosses from Willian, Moses, and Alonso

i like this idea a lot.

We're really lacking that central presence to occupy centrebacks and let hazard work in space between CB and CM.

in theory Morata should offer a combination of mobility and strength, running in behind or holding up as appropriate, but he is just an ekpa that seems unable to do either at a consistent level.

At least Gru gives us certainty in what he can actually do, unlike that sunken spaniard.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:17am On Feb 27, 2018
funlord:


The ban pain my guy reach bone marrow sha.... grin



As in....he's in so much agony.

if i were airmark, i would ban him again as an experiment, just to see what he does next.

my money would be on Ollah sipping chilled sniper on the rocks out of a crystal cut tumbler
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 9:20am On Feb 27, 2018
Nihilist:



As in....he's in so much agony.

if i were airmark, i would ban him again as an experiment, just to see what he does next.

my money would be on Ollah sipping chilled sniper on the rocks out of a crystal cut tumbler
mad man grin grin
so airmark is a mod shocked shocked
i can bet on my life he's not the one that ban me, its mumu44
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by funlord(m): 9:22am On Feb 27, 2018
Nihilist:



As in....he's in so much agony.

if i were airmark, i would ban him again as an experiment, just to see what he does next.

my money would be on Ollah sipping chilled sniper on the rocks out of a crystal cut tumbler


I think I just saw the "pain" wearing a number 6 jersey and violently tackling lukaku with an intent to kill on my PS4....it is so visible... cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 9:23am On Feb 27, 2018
ollah2:


I'm not praising him but he banned and unbanned him which all happened within a short while. I can bet, my.nd will be unbanned before airmark unbans my moniker. Weren't you also banned after me? Ain't you commenting right now?

P.S all these bans were just for this section alone but airmark banned me in all sections. Doesnt that prove to you how much of an hypocrite and no balls of a man he is?


I was banned from commenting on all sections....not just sports.

Anyways,before they send this monicker to prison again for derailing or what not.....abeg let it go.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 9:23am On Feb 27, 2018
Nihilist:


i like this idea a lot.

We're really lacking that central presence to occupy centrebacks and let hazard work in space between CB and CM.

in theory Morata should offer a combination of mobility and strength, running in behind or holding up as appropriate, but he is just an ekpa that seems unable to do either at a consistent level.

At least Gru gives us certainty in what he can actually do, unlike that sunken spaniard.
giroud offers no attacking treat, he can hold up play. conte should try him with morata. he is very effective in such tactics like when he partnered greizmann at the euros
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 9:25am On Feb 27, 2018
diggz:



I was banned from commenting on all sections....not just sports.

Anyways,before they send this monicker to prison again for derailing or what not.....abeg let it go.

i remember na me and you they talk na
oga forget why you they fear ban angry
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:28am On Feb 27, 2018
sod09:
giroud offers no attacking treat, he can hold up play. conte should try him with morata. he is very effective in such tactics like when he partnered greizmann at the euros

i suspect Conte would like to try that but that means dropping one or even both of Hazard and Willy.

ko jo

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 9:36am On Feb 27, 2018
Ibime:


He should play the same team as the 1st leg minus Fabregas. Giroud is too slow for the pressing needed, and Morata keeps falling under annointing. He can bring in Morata around 60 mins.
with that selection, our best result is 0 - 0, then we come back home.
For me, I will start morata. Barcelona defenders are not aggressive like the EPL ones, so there will be no falling from morata. You can see it from the time he played against atletico. Morata hazard and Willian should start up front. As difficult as it is to accept, our chances of scoring with morata on the pitch will increase if the real pass genius (fab) is in the line up. It will be great to see hazard, morata and willian running onto those fab passes.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 9:37am On Feb 27, 2018
Nihilist:


i suspect Conte would like to try that but that means dropping one or even both of Hazard and Willy.

ko jo
he has nothing to lose
Williams should sit down
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 9:39am On Feb 27, 2018
Nihilist:


i suspect Conte would like to try that but that means dropping one or even both of Hazard and Willy.

ko jo


Exactly....the only way giroud gets to play is if we are playing 442....


Morata can partner him or Pedro upfront while Willian and hazard play on the flanks
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 9:40am On Feb 27, 2018
sod09:
he has nothing to lose
Williams should sit down


Thunder fry your yansh for saying willian should sit down ......I will remove hazard self before I take out willian.....lobish sad sad angry
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 9:44am On Feb 27, 2018
sod09:
giroud offers no attacking treat, he can hold up play. conte should try him with morata. he is very effective in such tactics like when he partnered greizmann at the euros

Giroud with Morata indicates a 3-5-2. I am not sure this will work. One of the reasons we did well against Barca was because of the pace and width. We stretched the play and pressed in numbers. Giroud's pace is slower than Alonso's. We need pace for the pressing game.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 9:44am On Feb 27, 2018
sod09:
he has nothing to lose
Williams should sit down


Willian sit down?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 9:45am On Feb 27, 2018
Greatihex:
with that selection, our best result is 0 - 0, then we come back home.
For me, I will start morata. Barcelona defenders are not aggressive like the EPL ones, so there will be no falling from morata. You can see it from the time he played against atletico. Morata hazard and Willian should start up front. As difficult as it is to accept, our chances of scoring with morata on the pitch will increase if the real pass genius (fab) is in the line up. It will be great to see hazard, morata and willian running onto those fab passes.

I am still struggling with the so called fab passes you guys keep using to justify why he should be in the team.....the passes sef I no kukuma dey see again....most of moratas goals came from azpi and not fab.

If conte should be phooolish to start fab in a 2man midfield in camp nou then we should just say bye bye to our chances of going through....

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 9:48am On Feb 27, 2018
diggz:



Thunder fry your yansh for saying willian should sit down ......I will remove hazard self before I take out willian.....lobish sad sad angry
forget the form name matters....hearing the name hidden aka one corner add fear to Barca defense they won't come out like that.
For example the first hazard was picked through out while Willy was just free even after hitting post and scoring.
Btw most of these Barca players are short giroud and morata are needed for air ball

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 9:49am On Feb 27, 2018
nateevs:


Giroud with Morata indicates a 3-5-2. I am not sure this will work. One of the reasons we did well against Barca was because of the pace and width. We stretched the play and pressed in numbers. Giroud's pace is slower than Alonso's. We need pace for the pressing game.

do cross and nod azhi plus Alonso serve left and right Barca will see hell
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:49am On Feb 27, 2018
diggz:



Exactly....the only way giroud gets to play is if we are playing 442....


Morata can partner him or Pedro upfront while Willian and hazard play on the flanks

442, 451, 4231.

i dont know if any of these formations work with Morata, Giroud and Hazard in the line up cos those are 3 players that wont track back.

Morata always looks like hes out of gas after 70 minutes sef, and thats when hes playing up front, rather than in a supporting role where he has to run up and down the pitch.

i either play 343 or 433 with Haz, Giroud and Morata, or play 352/442 with Giroud/Morata willian/moses/pedro on the flanks jn the latter position.

Either way it means we cant effectively field our best player.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 9:51am On Feb 27, 2018
diggz:


I am still struggling with the so called fab passes you guys keep using to justify why he should be in the team.....the passes sef I no kukuma dey see again....most of moratas goals came from azpi and not fab.

If conte should be phooolish to start fab in a 2man midfield in camp nou then we should just say bye bye to our chances of going through....


Bye bye indeed. Fabregas that found it hard to press in a small Stamford Bridge. We need all the defensive solidity we can muster. Fab should not start
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 9:52am On Feb 27, 2018
3-4-1-2
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:54am On Feb 27, 2018
nateevs:


Giroud with Morata indicates a 3-5-2. I am not sure this will work. One of the reasons we did well against Barca was because of the pace and width. We stretched the play and pressed in numbers. Giroud's pace is slower than Alonso's. We need pace for the pressing game.


we didnt press Barca though. They were just tapping the ball around in their half. Thats one of the reasons we struggled offensively, cos when we won the ball in our half and wanted to counter, we had nobody to launch the ball up to and ask to help us hold it.

We were having to run at barca players a lot and more often than not ran into cul de sacs.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 9:54am On Feb 27, 2018
In short that return leg at Camp Nou is OYO for Us.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 9:55am On Feb 27, 2018
Why is everyone forgetting Barca are almost useless without Messi... Lord Kante should be his guidance then cool
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EarthXmetahuman: 9:59am On Feb 27, 2018
Lol

All the old ids are back grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 10:04am On Feb 27, 2018
sod09:
3-4-1-2
sod09:
Why is everyone forgetting Barca are almost useless without Messi... Lord Kante should be his guidance then cool
sod09:
3-4-1-2
are you a Chelsea fan now?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 10:14am On Feb 27, 2018
Nihilist:


442, 451, 4231.

i dont know if any of these formations work with Morata, Giroud and Hazard in the line up cos those are 3 players that wont track back.

Morata always looks like hes out of gas after 70 minutes sef, and thats when hes playing up front, rather than in a supporting role where he has to run up and down the pitch.

i either play 343 or 433 with Haz, Giroud and Morata, or play 352/442 with Giroud/Morata willian/moses/pedro on the flanks jn the latter position.

Either way it means we cant effectively field our best player.

Conte should just line up same players from the first leg with the exception of fabregas....morata can come in to replace pedro around 60th or 70th minute while giroud can come in around 80th minute if we need to play long balls
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 10:17am On Feb 27, 2018
nateevs:



Bye bye indeed. Fabregas that found it hard to press in a small Stamford Bridge. We need all the defensive solidity we can muster. Fab should not start

We need to replace fab and yoko come end of the season....we simply cannot do better with the coach always struggling to find the right balance for the team with those two around....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 10:18am On Feb 27, 2018
Nihilist:


we didnt press Barca though. They were just tapping the ball around in their half. Thats one of the reasons we struggled offensively, cos when we won the ball in our half and wanted to counter, we had nobody to launch the ball up to and ask to help us hold it.

We were having to run at barca players a lot and more often than not ran into cul de sacs.



As the game went on, we tired out. It's not easy to sustain a pressing game against Barca for 90 minutes. We will have to implement a low-block defensive line, with intermittent, coordinated pressing bursts, attempting to steal the ball and launching counters at the speed of light.

This means all players participating in the defensive line and all being able to participate in the rapid CAs.


Although I agree with the suggestion in principle, one of the reasons I believe the hold up play may not work is that Barca are pretty rapid themselves and will retrieve play very quickly, before we are able to hold it up and move up field to support. But I may be wrong.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 10:24am On Feb 27, 2018
pamcode:
are you a Chelsea fan now?
I'm a football fan grin grin
I'm not a gayner anymore till that old piece of shit leaves
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:25am On Feb 27, 2018
diggz:


I am still struggling with the so called fab passes you guys keep using to justify why he should be in the team.....the passes sef I no kukuma dey see again....most of moratas goals came from azpi and not fab.

If conte should be phooolish to start fab in a 2man midfield in camp nou then we should just say bye bye to our chances of going through....
if you check well, you will see that i used the word 'real'. All we need is for one of hazard or willian to be running behind the defenders once fab has the ball, while morata keeps their cbs occupied. With fabs job being to locate hazard or Willian immediately the ball touches his foot. With the real fabrepass doing the passing, there is no way we don't have a chance. We will just be using the flank and stretching them. Fab will be the one to play deeper than kante. He does not need to run much. He should be the one to collect the ball from Chris and play diagonally to the running Willian and eden, instead of us trying to play out from the back and conceding unnecessary goals.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 10:31am On Feb 27, 2018
Greatihex:
if you check well, you will see that i used the word 'real'. All we need is for one of hazard or willian to be running behind the defenders once fab has the ball, while morata keeps their cbs occupied. With fabs job being to locate hazard or Willian immediately the ball touches his foot. With the real fabrepass doing the passing, there is no way we don't have a chance. We will just be using the flank and stretching them. Fab will be the one to play deeper than kante. He does not need to run much. He should be the one to collect the ball from Chris and play diagonally to the running Willian and eden, instead of us trying to play out from the back and conceding unnecessary goals.

I dont even know if Fab has to be spraying passes anyhow because Conte already encourages Rudiger and Azpi to aggresively dribble into oppostion half and spray cross field balls.

Rudiger is very very good at that, and we all know how good Azpi is at finding his striker frm deep.

I'm also backing the fabregas pick, but I'm expecting him to be the one to coordinate our play and dictate the tempo. No need for hollywood balls from him unless it's on. All he has to do is recycle the ball when play breaks down, and offer a passing outlet for give and goes with the likes of Alonso and Moses.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:39am On Feb 27, 2018
ollah2:


A superior mod sent your ass to Pluto in this SECTION ALONE for a worse comment and he brought you back to Earth within a short while but your fo.olish self banned me for several months IN ALL SECTIONS and you aren't looking back. It's your type that blames Buhari for abusing power when you as an ORDINARY MOD is showing useless powers.

You can proceed to ban this moniker too, afterall it makes you feel like a man.

You just keep showing how ignorant you are. I can only ban members on music/radio section, i told you i had nothing to do with your banning.

I even checked your ban logs and saw that your ollah1 moniker was banned for breaking rule 2 in this section, by a supermod.

Instead of you to get informed and stop diving into stupid conclusion, you continued to disgrace yourself up and down.

You didn't even blame the sports section mod for banning you. I guess your post was reported by the person you attacked and called gay, got to a supermod who pulled the trigger.

For your information, only a supermod can ban you on all boards, not a sectional mod like me or ogbeche. Ogbeche (sports mod), can't ban a member on music section or other sections, just as i don't have the power to ban on this or other sections. 'Insufficient permisson' will pop up, if we try to, aboki.

I expect you to do what a responsible human being will do after discovering he goofs, with wrong accusations.

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