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Eruditor:
CR7 was the WPOTY 08, Kaka 07. Messi was number 2 when Pep took the job while Iniesta and Xavi never finished higher than 2nd and 3rd (during Pep).

Technically speaking, CR7 and Kaka were either on par for the latter with Messi or higher rated for Kaka and the latter 2 midfielders.

Fax, no printers.

Was kakas Madrid career injury plagued or not?

Was he eventually benched by ozil or not?

Did Messi finish second runner up in balloon for voting at a young age in an injury plagued season before guardiola or not?

Go dance somewhere else small fry.

MitrikDenholm:
Was kakas Madrid career injury plagued or not?

Was he eventually benched by ozil or not?

Did Messi finish second runner up in balloon for voting at a young age in an injury plagued season before guardiola or not?

Go dance somewhere else small fry.

Was Kaka injured when Madrid signed him?

What are you asking about Messi? Between him and CR7 who won WPOTY first?

The statement made was that Kaka and CR7 at their prime were higher rated than the Barca trio you cited. If you claim Messi and CR7 were on par, we can pass it even though (CR7 was the best player in the world when Pep took over Barca) and Kaka was the previous world best to CR7.

Iniesta and Xavi never reached Kaka's "rating". Every other team title they won, he did too. The statement Popzaino made effectively is right.

Now tell me you scored 147 in an IQ test.

Eruditor:
Was Kaka injured when Madrid signed him?

What are you asking about Messi? Between him and CR7 who won WPOTY first?

The statement made was that Kaka and CR7 at their prime were higher rated than the Barca trio you cited. If you claim Messi and CR7 were on par, we can pass it even though (CR7 was the best player in the world when Pep took over Barca) and Kaka was the previous world best to CR7.

Iniesta and Xavi never reached Kaka's "rating". Every other team title they won, he did too. The statement Popzaino made effectively is right.

Now tell me you scored 147 in an IQ test.

Did prime kaka and prime Ronaldo ever play for real Madrid at the same time? Stop speaking as if kaka ever played for real Madrid at half the level he played for Milan. He was never able to because injuries never allowed him to and was on a downward trajectory.

You speak as if guardiola turned Messi into gold, Messi was already on an upward trajectory before guardiola.

Fact remains that Barca team was heads and shoulders above the mess that inorganic real Madrid was. Anyone who claims otherwise does not understand football.

Lol I see you've been following my posts. Well, I don't think I know you well enough to quote things about you, sorry. But it's nice to know you're a fan.

chic2pimp:
Ibime apparently they were no Ivorian Flags in the crowd in Birms so Ahoure had to make do with an Irish flag flipped upside down

Nah I missed that part. Interesting to note she trains with, and is mentored by Carmelita Jeter. Do you think she is a science student?

raumdeuter:
Can anyone identify the number 20 in West brom who lost the ball for the goal today
airmark, lordfalcao lalaboi nihilist
https://j.gifs.com/APrkRz.gif

the world best DM on planet earth.

raumdeuter:
Can anyone identify the number 20 in West brom who lost the ball for the goal today
airmark, lordfalcao lalaboi nihilist
https://j.gifs.com/APrkRz.gif

LMAO.

But why is his own teammate going to tackle him while he is on the ball? These WestBrom guys are their own worst enemies.

MitrikDenholm:
Did prime kaka and prime Ronaldo ever play for real Madrid at the same time? Stop speaking as if kaka ever played for real Madrid at half the level he played for Milan. He was never able to because injuries never allowed him to and was on a downward trajectory.

You speak as if guardiola turned Messi into gold, Messi was already on an upward trajectory before guardiola.

Fact remains that Barca team was heads and shoulders above the mess that inorganic real Madrid was. Anyone who claims otherwise does not understand football.

Lol I see you've been following my posts. Well, I don't think I know you well enough to quote things about you, sorry. But it's nice to know you're a fan.

Did RM sign an injured out of prime player for a world record fee?
Did Mou not use same players to win the league and get to UCL semis?

Nobody said anything about Messi and Pep except that Messi was not at the level he would get to after meeting Pep.
Pep coached Messi to 4 WPOTY titles and since then, Messi has won only one. An older CR7 has gone on to win 4 more WPOTY titles yet he was stuck on 1 while Pep coached Barca.

That Barca team was shampooing over others yet went trophyless back to back?

Don't let me disgrace you here like I do on the other thread. Nuff said.

Eruditor:
Did RM sign an injured out of prime player for a world record fee?
Did Mou not use same players to win the league and get to UCL semis?

Nobody said anything about Messi and Pep except that Messi was not at the level he would get to after meeting Pep.
Pep coached Messi to 4 WPOTY titles and since then, Messi has won only one. An older CR7 has gone on to win 4 more WPOTY titles yet he was stuck on 1 while Pep coached Barca.

That Barca team was shampooing over others yet went trophyless back to back?

Don't let me disgrace you here like I do on the other thread. Nuff said.

Lol. Keep dodging the question. Did prime kaka play for real Madrid or not? Did kaka even play a full injury free season with real Madrid or not?

Yeah but you forget Xavi and iniesta were wilting within that period and Madrid started winning UCL trophies which has become the sole criteria for Ballon d'Or. Not that Messi hasn't been playing well under other managers.

I don't even remember debating with you on the other thread but again nice to know you're a fan.

Ibime:
LMAO.

But why is his own teammate going to tackle him while he is on the ball? These WestBrom guys are their own worst enemies.

Dayo is now very desperate. That was exactly what came to my mind when i saw the gif and i just decided to read reactions before replying.
Respect.

lordfalcao:
the world best DM on planet earth.

You wouldn't take your time to ask important questions before diving into conclusion. Dayo needs people like you.

Ibime:
LMAO.

But why is his own teammate going to tackle him while he is on the ball? These WestBrom guys are their own worst enemies.

Krychowack lacks spatial awareness. His teammate was just beside him. Obviously the wack guy didnt realise it and took the ball towards his teammate who tried to jump over to allow the wacko do his thing but Krychowack lost the ball and the rest is history

Since the wack player joined Brom, they have only won 1 league game and its 7months already

airmark:
Dayo is now very desperate. That was exactly what came to my mind when i saw the gif and i just decided to read reactions before replying.
Respect.

This will be the 3rd manager that will manage West Brom since Wack joined and Pardew sef is about to be sacked, The moment you make a mistake and sign the worst DM in history expect such misfortune on your club

raumdeuter:
Krychowack lacks spatial awareness. His teammate was just beside him. Obviously the wack guy didnt realise it and took the ball towards his teammate who tried to jump over

This shows your ignorance. That stupid teammate confused krychowiak there, the pole thought he wanted to collect the ball and move the ball back to where he was coming from. He had no business walking into that path at all. Jump over ko, crawl under ni.

You are too desperate to hand L this evening, a big fail bro.

raumdeuter:
Krychowack lacks spatial awareness. His teammate was just beside him. Obviously the wack guy didnt realise it and took the ball towards his teammate who tried to jump over to allow the wacko do his thing but Krychowack lost the ball and the rest is history

If you give us the preceding 2 seconds, we can judge definitively.

If you ask me just from that clip, his teammate is making an unnatural movement forward instead of taking a couple of steps back to create the angle which a normal midfielder will do to make himself available for the ball. It looks like Kyrchowiak has already ruled him out as a passing option due to his stüpid positioning and is attempting to go across to play in the left-back, when he is impeded by the same stüpid run from his midfield partner. That's my view from the available clip but the preceding 2 seconds may give us better information.

Ibime:
If you give us the preceding 2 seconds, we can judge definitively.

If you ask me just from that clip, his teammate is making an unnatural movement forward instead of taking a couple of steps back to create the angle which a normal midfielder will do to make himself available for the ball. It looks like Kyrchowiak has already ruled him out as a passing option due to his stüpid positioning and is attempting to go across to play in the left-back, when he is impeded by the same stüpid run from his midfield partner. That's my view from the available clip but the preceding 2 seconds may give us better information.

This is the longer clip

https://j.gifs.com/PZGyr1.gif

Krychowiak collected the ball no pressure, but he was unaware of the teammate next to him so he turned into his teammate and swung his leg as if to hit. The teammate wondering why he was that clueless jumped and the confusion led to the goal

It was the wack guy lack of awareness that made him turn into a teammate in the first place

Watch when he collected the ball, if he was aware of his teammates position as being so close to him, why will he turn into him and swing his leg to hit

airmark:
This shows your ignorance. That stupid teammate confused krychowiak there, the pole thought he wanted to collect the ball and move the ball back to where he was coming from. He had no business walking into that path at all. Jump over ko, crawl under ni.

You are too desperate to hand L this evening, a big fail bro.

Krychowiak turned and swung his leg to hit the ball when he was few a meter from a teammate, The mate jumped over and wack cost his team another goal as usual

raumdeuter:
This is the longer clip

https://j.gifs.com/PZGyr1.gif

Krychowiak collected the ball no pressure, but he was unaware of the teammate next to him so he turned into his teammate and swung his leg as if to hit. The teammate wondering why he was that clueless jumped and the confusion led to the goal

It was the wack guy lack of awareness that made him turn into a teammate in the first place

Watch when he collected the ball, if he was aware of his teammates position as being so close to him, why will he turn into him and swing his leg to hit

Hahahahaha. You are right. He deliberately touched that ball into that space with the intention of switching to the wings even before he received that ball. But he didn't see teammate standing in that space before he made that decision. His teammate still carries some blame though. His teammate feinted to kick the ball which is what made Kyrcho to pull out from his original plan to pass to the left-back.

raumdeuter:
Krychowiak turned and swung his leg to hit the ball when he was few a meter from a teammate, The mate jumped over and wack cost his team another goal as usual

The teammate should have stayed where he was and allowed the pole do what he wanted to do with the ball and not moving over the ball as if he wanted to change the direction of the ball. His reaction confused krychowiak there, probably wanted to possess the ball, but in macrosecs changed his mind.

Stop this yeye propaganda.

Ibime:
Hahahahaha. You are right. He deliberately touched that ball into that space with the intention of switching to the wings even before he received that ball. But he didn't see teammate standing in that space before he made that decision. His teammate still carries some blame though. His teammate feinted to kick the ball which is what made Kyrcho to pull out from his original plan to pass to the left-back.

he made the decision to send the ball to the wings without being aware of his environment like a pre programmed footballer. He collected the ball swung his leg and suddenly saw the guy

The mate when Krychowiak collected the ball he assumed no sane person will come in his direction but he underestimated Krychowiaks stupidity
Krychowiak moved the ball in his direction with no room to play
Typically Ibime as a footballer, if you are in the teammates position and Krychowiak suddenly turns into you swinging his leg what will you do?

Probably jump to marvel at such foolishness. That was why the teammate raised his hand amazed at such extreme foolishness

airmark:
The teammate should have stayed where he was and allowed the pole do what he wanted to do with the ball and not moving over the ball as if he wanted to change the direction of the ball. His reaction confused krychowiak there, probably wanted to possess the ball, but in macrosecs changed his mind.

Stop this yeye propaganda.

100% true.

airmark:
The teammate should have stayed where he was and allowed the pole do what he wanted to do with the ball and not moving over the ball as if he wanted to change the direction of the ball. His reaction confused krychowiak there, probably wanted to possess the ball, but in macrosecs changed his mind.

Stop this yeye propaganda.

If Krychowiak had basic football training, you check your environment while receivng the pass 'Wack lacked that which was why he failed in PSG and he failed in West Brom

What should have been the reaction of a teammate who saw Krychowiak receive the ball within 1 meter of him and swinging his leg? Tell me

raumdeuter:
Typically Ibime as a footballer, if you are in the teammates position and Krychowiak suddenly turns into you swinging his leg what will you do?

Probably jump to marvel at such foolishness. That was why the teammate raised his hand amazed at such extreme foolishness

If I'm his teammate, I will put my back into Will Hughes of Watford to lever him off so Kyrcho can carry on his way. You were right about Kyrcho not spotting his teammates' position but the teammate coulda reacted better.

raumdeuter:
What should have been the reaction of a teammate who saw Krychowiak receive the ball within 1 meter of him and swinging his leg? Tell me

Watch the gif again after reading the lines below.

airmark:
The teammate should have stayed where he was and allowed the pole do what he wanted to do with the ball and not moving over the ball as if he wanted to change the direction of the ball.

MitrikDenholm:
Lol. Keep dodging the question. Did prime kaka play for real Madrid or not? Did kaka even play a full injury free season with real Madrid or not?

Kaka played an injury free season for RM 2009-2010. The year prior he finished 6th in the world behind Messi, CR7 and Xavi, Ini and Etoo (4 of which came from a sextuple winning team). It was this form that made RM splash the cash on him.

He played 33, scored 9 assisted 8. It was at the end of this season that he underwent a surgery that kept him out for 8 months. By then, Mou and Ozil had replaced him.

Yeah but you forget Xavi and iniesta were wilting within that period and Madrid started winning UCL trophies which has become the sole criteria for Ballon d'Or. Not that Messi hasn't been playing well under other managers.

Yea, they were wilting. 4 years after their last UCL, wilted players will go on to win it again. Messi was playing great, but not winning Ballon d'ors. But the coach under whom he won 4 did nothing.

I don't even remember debating with you on the other thread but again nice to know you're a fan.

Re-activate between moniker 500- 540. The evidence is there somewhere. In a week you would deny debating me again with your 701st account.

airmark:
Watch the gif again after reading the lines below.

Watch it, the teammate stayed where he was it was Krychowack who came to meet him so the teammate thought Krycho wanted to do some Polish trick until he realized Krychowack is really wack for swinging his leg few centimeters away from a teammate

Ibime:
If I'm his teammate, I will put my back into Will Hughes of Watford to lever him off so Kyrcho can carry on his way. You were right about Kyrcho not spotting his teammates' position but the teammate coulda reacted better.

You are probably going to do that now because you realize that Krycho didnt have any plan or wasn't aware of your presence there in the first place.

On the field at the moment, you probably will think he wanted to do some clever one-two or something. No one can be that dumb to run into a teammate. I mean you see your mate turn into you and still took steps in your direction, You wont think of avoiding until he swings his leg and you realize he is clueless thats why he was exiled from PSG to the worst team in the EPL

Eruditor:
Kaka played an injury free season for RM 2009-2010. The year prior he finished 6th in the world behind Messi, CR7 and Xavi, Ini and Etoo (4 of which came from a sextuple winning team). It was this form that made RM splash the cash on him.

He played 33, scored 9 assisted 8. It was at the end of this season that he underwent a surgery that kept him out for 8 months. By then, Mou and Ozil had replaced him.



Yea, they were wilting. 4 years after their last UCL, wilted players will go on to win it again. Messi was playing great, but not winning Ballon d'ors. But the coach under whom he won 4 did nothing.



Re-activate between moniker 500- 540. The evidence is there somewhere. In a week you would deny debating me again with your 701st account.

So 25 league appearances is what constitutes a full injury free season yeah? LOL I see how you're trying to twist stats small fry.

And mind you he immediately had a surgery after the season because he had been suffering from a knee injury and that was it for kaka. And if kaka had been playing like "prime kaka", how would ozil replace him?

And let's say kaka played the full season with Ronaldo injury free (he didn't), how will you judge their first year together against the Barcelona that had been playing together forever?


Small fry, Messis stats were balloon d'Or worthy, he just didn't get the silverware to back him up. Saying Messi only became what he has because of guardiola is a blasphemy and you should be cursed by the football gods. I repeat, that's a very daft argument.

I didn't know I had fans here but I guess I'm flattered. Thank you for your support.

MitrikDenholm:
So 25 league appearances is what constitutes a full injury free season yeah? LOL I see how you're trying to twist stats small fry.

CR7 and Benzema played the same number of games and Kaka's tally was only behind CR7s.

And mind you he immediately had a surgery after the season because he had been suffering from a knee injury and that was it for kaka. And if kaka had been playing like "prime kaka", how would ozil replace him?

If your replacement is doing very well, why bench him?

And let's say kaka played the full season with Ronaldo injury free (he didn't), how will you judge their first year together against the Barcelona that had been playing together forever?

They had 96 points in the league to Barca's 99. Scoring more goals than Barca while at it.

Small fry, Messis stats were balloon d'Or worthy, he just didn't get the silverware to back him up. Saying Messi only became what he has because of guardiola is a blasphemy and you should be cursed by the football gods. I repeat, that's a very daft argument.

I mean, tone down the blaring lunacy. Where did anyone say Messi only became what he was due to Pep? I only asked you why silverwares and WPOTY titles flagged.

I didn't know I had fans here but I guess I'm flattered. Thank you for your support.

You are trying too hard to appear sane.

raumdeuter:
Watch it, the teammate stayed where he was it was Krychowack who came to meet him so the teammate thought Krycho wanted to do some Polish trick until he realized Krychowack is really wack for swinging his leg few centimeters away from a teammate

Now i know you are joking.

Lemme watch wilder's fight abeg.

Although Rijkaards utter mismanagement of a set of absolutely World-Class players allowed Pep to play the saviour role, let's not forget to give credit to the Norwegian guy that made Pep who he is today.


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Ibime:
Although Rijkaards utter mismanagement of a set of absolutely World-Class players allowed Pep to play the saviour role, let's not forget to give credit to the Norwegian guy that made Pep who he is today.

While crediting a ref who failed to give penalties, lets not forget to give credit to that referee and linesman who actually disallowed a legit Paul Scholes goal vs Porto and made Mourinho the guy he is today

https://j.gifs.com/vow06L.gif

Who is watching wilder vs ortiz?

raumdeuter:
I read it

you read it and you didn't see United, Pogba and Fellani?

You didn't see his response when they pointed out to him that he has insulted his colleague?