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Y0ruba:
It is not a case of Yoruba VS Igbo or Igbo VS Yoruba, what is at hand is a problem Yoruba & Hausa VS Igbo.

The early political and military History of Nigeria shows the Igbo have a superiority complex running concurrently with an almost genetic clannish behaviour.

Throughout the early History of Nigeria till now, the Igbos have been known to have never worked within the bounds of ‘partnership’ or respect ‘equality in differences’.

The Igbo wants to hijack your partnership with them and put himself or herself in charge and also discard the equality in differences and wanting things to go his/her way only.

Several important factors in Nigerian history indicate these characteristics of the Igbo:

- The early nationalist movements in Nigeria. Specifically how they brought tribalism into NYM which stalled the advancement of NYM during the period.

- The constitutional conferences before independence which Igbos on several fronts made about themselves rather than let each bloc put in what they preferred for their own region and peoples.

- The development of political parties in Nigeria. NCNC was founded by a Yoruba man. The Igbo man Azikiwe took over, hijacked the party & turned it into an Igbo party. Prior to this, the Igbo formed Igbo union with chapters all over Nigeria which they collapsed into NCNC when Zik took over. This marked start of tribal politics in Nigeria. Yoruba moved out & Awolowo in reaction formed Egbe Omo Oduduwa & eventually, AG.

- The forming of governments at Federal level. Igbo colluded with the North but tried to hijack the government from the North employing several methods. For example with their kin in government they began to flood out en masse to the North especially where they began appointing themselves into the civil service. They disrespected the North and threatened the isolation policy of the Northeen government. This influenced Ahmadu Bello’s recorded speech in an interview. In the West, they did the same thing by appointing themselves above well qualified Westerners, into positions which prompted Sir Ladoke Akintola’s speech that woke all Yoruba sons and daughters at the time to take back their region.

- The Igbo in the constitutional conferences had always wanted Unitary system of government. Their region was backwards and they needed to be able to flood other regions ‘legitimately’ & get a soft landing with jobs and career advancements. They realized they could not do this with the regional government of the day and opted for the 1966 coup where none of their own kin in government was scratched let alone killed but murdered every other person from other regions. This was the point where Igbo ruined their relationship & completely damaged the trust other regions had for them.

- After the coup, the Igbo in the North made music spiting the North, which was publicly played; made posters and printed shirts to taunt the North which were publicly displayed. Of course, they crrated chants mocking how Tafa Balewa was murdered.

- The Igbo had the chance to redeem their image by allowing a more senior army officer of Borno stock to take over but the Igbos in the democratic government of 1966 handed over to Aguiyi Ironsi, an Igbo man. Then came Ironsi who was expected to hand out justice to the coupist, of course, the Igbo clannishness kicked in and he refused. This soured the North and East relationship forever. This also started protection of indicted kinfolks in Nigerian public space today.

- The Igbo who were proponents of Unitary system since pre-independence suddenly had a problem with it. Igbo who previously didn’t have a problem with subverting military ranking system for Ironsi to head the government suddenly had a problem with the same method which produced Gowon. Suddenly the Igbo wanted regionalism & for military ranking to be stuck to in 1967 simply because they were not the one in power and the Unitary was not to their favour.

- In the MKO debacle of 1993. Of course records abound as to how Igbo supported the MKO’s loss of his substantive position as the president elect. Of course, they even had million man march in support of Abacha when he took over. In fact, when Yoruba were locked in a struggle with Abacha/North, the Igbo took sides with Abacha. This made the relationship and trust the Yoruba had with Igbo became sour coupled with the Igbo ills towards Yoruba in the 1960s

- Fastfoward to when Yaradua passed. Goodluck Jonathan could not take up his mandate as the President. He was not only blocked by the North who played hide & seek with Yaradua’s status, the North even played cards towards a re-interpretation of the constitution to keep Jonathan away from assuming the office he deserved. Jonathan’s small Ijaw group went mute, the Igbo as usual all stayed away. Yoruba championed protests that got the attention of the international community & pressured the North into giving into letting Jonathan take up the office due to him - the Igbo did not say a word. The North fell back from Yoruba’s pressure and Jonathan got in. In 2011, the Yoruba gave Jonathan much more votes than Igbos did but of course their clannishness & disrespect for equality kicked in so much that they hijacked the PDP, hijacked Goodluck’s government and made it a Igbo government so much that the one would conclude it was an ‘Igbo Presidency’.

There are more pointers but I’ll leave it at this.

The above goes to show the Igbo are a risky group to work with. It is not just the West that does not want to work with them, the North also avoids them like a plague. In fact, the Igbo kin in the South South stay away from them politically. Inviting these people into a partnership is like opening the door to a swarm of locust, they will eat at everything in their way without respect for the other side.

These facts & characteristic traits of the Igbo from pre-independence abound till this moment.

- They still flood every region trying to dominate by demanding to be voted into offices or for appointments while strictly preventing such in the region.

- They wanted Lagos in the 50s, they wanted Lagos in the Biafra war & still want to have Lagos in 21st century.

- They are still clannish. Look at Goodluck Jonathan’s government.

- They are still sneaky. During Jonathan’s presidency, they loved Nigeria. In fact, a video of Nnamdi Kanu, the leader of the seccessionist group surfaced on the internet where he was super pro-Nigeria. All of a sudden, they no longer want Nigeria because they’re not in power.

And it goes on & on but I’ll leave it alone.

They can not be worked with, QED.

horsepower101:
The Yorubas simply hate to see igbos do good or succeed.

The Yorubas attitude towards igbos has always been "I will rather us all suffer together than watch you succeed".

Even though Nigeria has clearly been far more beneficial for the Yorubas, the moment they see anything good happen for the igbos, they immediately lose their mind.

In summary, igbo attitude is;

" Yorubas are doing great in this area, let's change our ways to be able to meet up and compete with them"


Yoruba attitude is:

" Igbos are doing great is this area, let's do everything possible to make sure that we stop them from succeeding"

Onijagidijagan:
Give example to back up ur claim

Y0ruba:
It is not a case of Yoruba VS Igbo or Igbo VS Yoruba, what is at hand is a problem Yoruba & Hausa VS Igbo.

The early political and military History of Nigeria shows the Igbo have a superiority complex running concurrently with an almost genetic clannish behaviour.

Throughout the early History of Nigeria till now, the Igbos have been known to have never worked within the bounds of ‘partnership’ or respect ‘equality in differences’.

The Igbo wants to hijack your partnership with them and put himself or herself in charge and also discard the equality in differences and wanting things to go his/her way only.

Several important factors in Nigerian history indicate these characteristics of the Igbo:

- The early nationalist movements in Nigeria. Specifically how they brought tribalism into NYM which stalled the advancement of NYM during the period.

- The constitutional conferences before independence which Igbos on several fronts made about themselves rather than let each bloc put in what they preferred for their own region and peoples.

- The development of political parties in Nigeria. NCNC was founded by a Yoruba man. The Igbo man Azikiwe took over, hijacked the party & turned it into an Igbo party. Prior to this, the Igbo formed Igbo union with chapters all over Nigeria which they collapsed into NCNC when Zik took over. This marked start of tribal politics in Nigeria. Yoruba moved out & Awolowo in reaction formed Egbe Omo Oduduwa & eventually, AG.

- The forming of governments at Federal level. Igbo colluded with the North but tried to hijack the government from the North employing several methods. For example with their kin in government they began to flood out en masse to the North especially where they began appointing themselves into the civil service. They disrespected the North and threatened the isolation policy of the Northeen government. This influenced Ahmadu Bello’s recorded speech in an interview. In the West, they did the same thing by appointing themselves above well qualified Westerners, into positions which prompted Sir Ladoke Akintola’s speech that woke all Yoruba sons and daughters at the time to take back their region.

- The Igbo in the constitutional conferences had always wanted Unitary system of government. Their region was backwards and they needed to be able to flood other regions ‘legitimately’ & get a soft landing with jobs and career advancements. They realized they could not do this with the regional government of the day and opted for the 1966 coup where none of their own kin in government was scratched let alone killed but murdered every other person from other regions. This was the point where Igbo ruined their relationship & completely damaged the trust other regions had for them.

- After the coup, the Igbo in the North made music spiting the North, which was publicly played; made posters and printed shirts to taunt the North which were publicly displayed. Of course, they crrated chants mocking how Tafa Balewa was murdered.

- The Igbo had the chance to redeem their image by allowing a more senior army officer of Borno stock to take over but the Igbos in the democratic government of 1966 handed over to Aguiyi Ironsi, an Igbo man. Then came Ironsi who was expected to hand out justice to the coupist, of course, the Igbo clannishness kicked in and he refused. This soured the North and East relationship forever. This also started protection of indicted kinfolks in Nigerian public space today.

- The Igbo who were proponents of Unitary system since pre-independence suddenly had a problem with it. Igbo who previously didn’t have a problem with subverting military ranking system for Ironsi to head the government suddenly had a problem with the same method which produced Gowon. Suddenly the Igbo wanted regionalism & for military ranking to be stuck to in 1967 simply because they were not the one in power and the Unitary was not to their favour.

- In the MKO debacle of 1993. Of course records abound as to how Igbo supported the MKO’s loss of his substantive position as the president elect. Of course, they even had million man march in support of Abacha when he took over. In fact, when Yoruba were locked in a struggle with Abacha/North, the Igbo took sides with Abacha. This made the relationship and trust the Yoruba had with Igbo became sour coupled with the Igbo ills towards Yoruba in the 1960s

- Fastfoward to when Yaradua passed. Goodluck Jonathan could not take up his mandate as the President. He was not only blocked by the North who played hide & seek with Yaradua’s status, the North even played cards towards a re-interpretation of the constitution to keep Jonathan away from assuming the office he deserved. Jonathan’s small Ijaw group went mute, the Igbo as usual all stayed away. Yoruba championed protests that got the attention of the international community & pressured the North into giving into letting Jonathan take up the office due to him - the Igbo did not say a word. The North fell back from Yoruba’s pressure and Jonathan got in. In 2011, the Yoruba gave Jonathan much more votes than Igbos did but of course their clannishness & disrespect for equality kicked in so much that they hijacked the PDP, hijacked Goodluck’s government and made it a Igbo government so much that the one would conclude it was an ‘Igbo Presidency’.

There are more pointers but I’ll leave it at this.

The above goes to show the Igbo are a risky group to work with. It is not just the West that does not want to work with them, the North also avoids them like a plague. In fact, the Igbo kin in the South South stay away from them politically. Inviting these people into a partnership is like opening the door to a swarm of locust, they will eat at everything in their way without respect for the other side.

These facts & characteristic traits of the Igbo from pre-independence abound till this moment.

- They still flood every region trying to dominate by demanding to be voted into offices or for appointments while strictly preventing such in the region.

- They wanted Lagos in the 50s, they wanted Lagos in the Biafra war & still want to have Lagos in 21st century.

- They are still clannish. Look at Goodluck Jonathan’s government.

- They are still sneaky. During Jonathan’s presidency, they loved Nigeria. In fact, a video of Nnamdi Kanu, the leader of the seccessionist group surfaced on the internet where he was super pro-Nigeria. All of a sudden, they no longer want Nigeria because they’re not in power.

And it goes on & on but I’ll leave it alone.

They can not be worked with, QED.

AfonjaConehead:
Nnamdi Kanu and his Ipob was a grand opportunity for the yorubas and entire south to at least drag the parasitic and conservative north and rest of naija to the round table to iron out foundational and fundamental issues regarding the nation,to really negotiate our nationhood buh what happened,the yorubas were the loudest in fighting and calling for the destruction of Nnamdi Kanu and Ipob. When the kangaroo fed govt pronounced Ipob a terror organisation,it suddenly became a thing of great joy and celebration in the sw. It became more important than the life and times of Awolowo.
Hausas/fulani have taken over virtually all fg job in the army,navy,airforce,immigration,customs,nimasa,ports and even the seas in Lagos but yoruba ppl careless,they are more concerned about chinedu and ogbonna and the 2by2 spareparts shop,they are more busy about gala and fanyogo hawkers and ekenedili chukwu buses..
What a ppl

btw,i am neither Igbo or Yoruba. Infact,my state have history with the Yorubas.

rhemmiedream:
Can darkness and light move together Yeebos led this country into the mess she is now.
We all are still suffering from the treachery of the yeebos in the First republic.

I only pity the naive Yorubas. People like Adewale Ademoyega and Victor Banjo. Ademoyega thought he was partaking in a revolution. Ifeajuna tipped his uncle ( zik) off and zik was on an endless trip in the Caribbean. The PM was murdered in cold blood . Sardauna, Akintola and Okotie Eboh were murdered. Top millitary men and police officers from the North and West were murdered too. The Easterners didnt touch anyone from their own region.

Interestingly, the so called ruling party/team in the first republic was formed by the Northern NPC and Eastern NCNC. That's ibo sense for you.

The hate between Yorubas and yeebos is real and mutual. The mumu yeebos were the most vocal against the bill to give Lagos a special status.
They dont want a special status for Lagos and on the other hand , they claim its a no mans land. The aggressive Yorubanization of south west is in progress and there's no going back .

As far as I am concerned, the Yeebos are as terrible as their counterparts from the far North. They both possess extremist idealogies that is not and can never be in tandem with the omoluabi philosophy.

Conclusively, God willing, in the nearest future Yorubaland will be fenced and all the leeches in our land deported back to their god forsaken lands.

AfonjaConehead:
Nnamdi Kanu and his Ipob was a grand opportunity for the yorubas and entire south to at least drag the north and rest of naija to the round table to iron out foundational and fundamental issues regarding the nation,to really negotiate our nationhood

mercyville:
Let me help him;
Ajayi Crowther hated Igbo and taught them how to read.
Herbert Macaulay hated Igbos and gave NCNC to Azikiwe.

Wole Soyinka hated Igbos and risk his neck for them.

Banjo hated Igbo and led them to victory until they killed him and eventually lost the war.

Obasanjo hated Igbo and gave them juicy appointments.
Yoruba hated Igbo but gave them back their properties, no abandoned properties after the civil.

Yoruba hated Igbo but GTB helped Innoson to start his IVM.
GTBalso helped Nestoil build the Nestoil Tower.
Yoruba hate Igbos.Igbos called Yoruba ancestral land Lagos .. no man's land...and nobody lynched them but instead carried placards against bad mouthing oba of Lagos.
etc

Bakynes24:
Igbos cannot even dare say Yoruba hate them. In fact it is the other way round.

As regards the abandoned properties, my grandfather who was a neighbour/to an Igbo landlord at Ebute-metta Lagos, collected rents from his tenants without the Igbo landlords knowledge. The tenants kept fighting my grandfather that what was his business with the house sebi the Igbo man has left for Biafra and they now own the house and would not pay rent. The Igbo man came back to Lagos after the war and thanked my grandfather that he thought he had lost the house and that he only came to check around. My grandfather handed over the 3 years rent money that he used to start over his life and also the key to the house.

So igbos cannot say we hate them with the appointments they get and the freedom to even contest in some elections in Lagos. It is them that have never done a single favour for the Yorubas so they dare not say we hate them instead they are the ones always reciprocating our kind gesture with hate.

horsepower101:
The Yorubas simply hate to see igbos do good or succeed.

The Yorubas attitude towards igbos has always been "I will rather us all suffer together than watch you succeed".

Even though Nigeria has clearly been far more beneficial for the Yorubas, the moment they see anything good happen for the igbos, they immediately lose their mind.

In summary, igbo attitude is;

" Yorubas are doing great in this area, let's change our ways to be able to meet up and compete with them"


Yoruba attitude is:

" Igbos are doing great is this area, let's do everything possible to make sure that we stop them from succeeding"

devindevin2000:
The problem is yoruba, not Igbo.

OjukwuWarBird:
Your grandfather might have been a good devoted Christian unlike most of his ethnic group who are like their ancestor that was cast out of heaven.

lx3as:
'I see'! And they give you so much space to operate in every corner of the West upon this -

" Yoruba attitude is: Igbos are doing great is this area, let's do everything possible to make sure that we stop them from succeeding"

Y0ruba:
It is not a case of Yoruba VS Igbo or Igbo VS Yoruba, what is at hand is a problem Yoruba & Hausa VS Igbo.

The early political and military History of Nigeria shows the Igbo have a superiority complex running concurrently with an almost genetic clannish behaviour.

Throughout the early History of Nigeria till now, the Igbos have been known to have never worked within the bounds of ‘partnership’ or respect ‘equality in differences’.

The Igbo wants to hijack your partnership with them and put himself or herself in charge and also discard the equality in differences and wanting things to go his/her way only.

Several important factors in Nigerian history indicate these characteristics of the Igbo:

- The early nationalist movements in Nigeria. Specifically how they brought tribalism into NYM which stalled the advancement of NYM during the period.

- The constitutional conferences before independence which Igbos on several fronts made about themselves rather than let each bloc put in what they preferred for their own region and peoples.

- The development of political parties in Nigeria. NCNC was founded by a Yoruba man. The Igbo man Azikiwe took over, hijacked the party & turned it into an Igbo party. Prior to this, the Igbo formed Igbo union with chapters all over Nigeria which they collapsed into NCNC when Zik took over. This marked start of tribal politics in Nigeria. Yoruba moved out & Awolowo in reaction formed Egbe Omo Oduduwa & eventually, AG.

- The forming of governments at Federal level. Igbo colluded with the North but tried to hijack the government from the North employing several methods. For example with their kin in government they began to flood out en masse to the North especially where they began appointing themselves into the civil service. They disrespected the North and threatened the isolation policy of the Northeen government. This influenced Ahmadu Bello’s recorded speech in an interview. In the West, they did the same thing by appointing themselves above well qualified Westerners, into positions which prompted Sir Ladoke Akintola’s speech that woke all Yoruba sons and daughters at the time to take back their region.

- The Igbo in the constitutional conferences had always wanted Unitary system of government. Their region was backwards and they needed to be able to flood other regions ‘legitimately’ & get a soft landing with jobs and career advancements. They realized they could not do this with the regional government of the day and opted for the 1966 coup where none of their own kin in government was scratched let alone killed but murdered every other person from other regions. This was the point where Igbo ruined their relationship & completely damaged the trust other regions had for them.

- After the coup, the Igbo in the North made music spiting the North, which was publicly played; made posters and printed shirts to taunt the North which were publicly displayed. Of course, they crrated chants mocking how Tafa Balewa was murdered.

- The Igbo had the chance to redeem their image by allowing a more senior army officer of Borno stock to take over but the Igbos in the democratic government of 1966 handed over to Aguiyi Ironsi, an Igbo man. Then came Ironsi who was expected to hand out justice to the coupist, of course, the Igbo clannishness kicked in and he refused. This soured the North and East relationship forever. This also started protection of indicted kinfolks in Nigerian public space today.

- The Igbo who were proponents of Unitary system since pre-independence suddenly had a problem with it. Igbo who previously didn’t have a problem with subverting military ranking system for Ironsi to head the government suddenly had a problem with the same method which produced Gowon. Suddenly the Igbo wanted regionalism & for military ranking to be stuck to in 1967 simply because they were not the one in power and the Unitary was not to their favour.

- In the MKO debacle of 1993. Of course records abound as to how Igbo supported the MKO’s loss of his substantive position as the president elect. Of course, they even had million man march in support of Abacha when he took over. In fact, when Yoruba were locked in a struggle with Abacha/North, the Igbo took sides with Abacha. This made the relationship and trust the Yoruba had with Igbo became sour coupled with the Igbo ills towards Yoruba in the 1960s

- Fastfoward to when Yaradua passed. Goodluck Jonathan could not take up his mandate as the President. He was not only blocked by the North who played hide & seek with Yaradua’s status, the North even played cards towards a re-interpretation of the constitution to keep Jonathan away from assuming the office he deserved. Jonathan’s small Ijaw group went mute, the Igbo as usual all stayed away. Yoruba championed protests that got the attention of the international community & pressured the North into giving into letting Jonathan take up the office due to him - the Igbo did not say a word. The North fell back from Yoruba’s pressure and Jonathan got in. In 2011, the Yoruba gave Jonathan much more votes than Igbos did but of course their clannishness & disrespect for equality kicked in so much that they hijacked the PDP, hijacked Goodluck’s government and made it a Igbo government so much that the one would conclude it was an ‘Igbo Presidency’.

There are more pointers but I’ll leave it at this.

The above goes to show the Igbo are a risky group to work with. It is not just the West that does not want to work with them, the North also avoids them like a plague. In fact, the Igbo kin in the South South stay away from them politically. Inviting these people into a partnership is like opening the door to a swarm of locust, they will eat at everything in their way without respect for the other side.

These facts & characteristic traits of the Igbo from pre-independence abound till this moment.

- They still flood every region trying to dominate by demanding to be voted into offices or for appointments while strictly preventing such in the region.

- They wanted Lagos in the 50s, they wanted Lagos in the Biafra war & still want to have Lagos in 21st century.

- They are still clannish. Look at Goodluck Jonathan’s government.

- They are still sneaky. During Jonathan’s presidency, they loved Nigeria. In fact, a video of Nnamdi Kanu, the leader of the seccessionist group surfaced on the internet where he was super pro-Nigeria. All of a sudden, they no longer want Nigeria because they’re not in power.

And it goes on & on but I’ll leave it alone.

They can not be worked with, QED.

horsepower101:
The Yorubas simply hate to see igbos do good or succeed.

The Yorubas attitude towards igbos has always been "I will rather us all suffer together than watch you succeed".

Even though Nigeria has clearly been far more beneficial for the Yorubas, the moment they see anything good happen for the igbos, they immediately lose their mind.

In summary, igbo attitude is;

" Yorubas are doing great in this area, let's change our ways to be able to meet up and compete with them"


Yoruba attitude is:

" Igbos are doing great is this area, let's do everything possible to make sure that we stop them from succeeding"

DeviIhimself:
typical yeroba Muslim

Truthcat:
Forget about Yoruba Muslim, I'm Christian and I hate your gut even more

DeviIhimself:
[s][/s]
shatap you're a yeroba Muslim

Truthcat:
This is just it right here!

Please, do I have your permission to copy and use this on other social and print media?

Zuluhead:
I laugh when i come across or read such, you guys have no idea about what transpired between zik and awolowo.
It was never a tribal battle but a fraternity battle.
Azikiwe was a member of the ogboni fraternity, while Awolowo was a member of the amorc fraternity.
The battle was who would deliver nigeria to his fraternity.
Zik penetrate the western politics due to his membership of his fraternity.
Same thing happens in almost all sectors of our nation. The school fraternity are not left out.
Why do you think a benin, yoruba and igbo student would partake in the killing of his own tribal mate, without any tribalist instinct.
The battle was a fraternity battle. They made the gullible masses think it was a tribal battle.

mercyville:
Do you have any proof?

0monnak0da:
No he had too much Akpu

Truthcat:
Dumbfool, 13 of your lineage can change my religion.

mercyville:
Do you have any proof?