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Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by emmykk(m): 8:26am On Mar 17, 2018
kokozain:
We know their game. Because someone like saraki cannot win his polling booth(though rigged with just 7votes ove PDP)in the last LGA election that was done in kwara. So the only hope is to make sure he use baba influence to cone back to red chamber. Ifvtheir elections comes first the President as a matter of fact will support them after their own has been won they will do anti party against the president. And make him loose. So its very logical. Who made saraki lost in his polling booth so let's just wait as matter unfolds in kwara politics
when you want to build a house do you start from foundation or from roofing.


if the president is so loved why is he afraid of the election time table....You remember how Obj cornered ACN because election started from top he did a public holiday on tue day atiku case was to be decided as presidential candidate of ACN.And because the electionn was the 1st ACN had no presidential candidate.


so stop commenting emotional on issue neither you nor me will benefit.it is rhe duty if lawmaker to make laws the president is to sign it and not reject it
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by muykem: 8:30am On Mar 17, 2018
NaijaMutant:
If buhari is wiser than you, then you require special prayers to become useful in life undecided
A man rose to the highest of his career to become head of state and years later become a civilian president defeating incumbent. Please what is wisdom? It is ability to achieve your goals. Check your region if you can find any man as wise as Buhari.
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by Nobody: 8:39am On Mar 17, 2018
NaijaMutant:
If buhari is wiser than you, then you require special prayers to become useful in life undecided
naija mutant or whatever you call urself , wail and wail intensively ,buhari popularity and love in the north cannot be undermined, who there to stop him, the scanty population of eastern state, and who are u supporting in the north to beat, dankwambo whom popularity remains in his state. Or atiku the almighty thief, look baba may have gotten wrong in internal politics, simply because of his refusal to share Ghana must go, buhari still remain the candidate to beat.
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by ify2001079: 8:42am On Mar 17, 2018
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Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by Jabioro: 8:44am On Mar 17, 2018
Let us create space and time for them at Abuja national stadium... there we winner can emerged... for get about all the talky talky ..
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by docadams:
Hmmmmmmm

Time for PMB to discard this "for everybody for nobody" garb. In the murky waters of Nigerian politics infested by sharks like Saraki et al and PDPcannibals, he just cannot leave the NASS for nobody and not be for everybody. This penchant for abandoning supporters to their fate is traitorous. There is need to have a hatchet team in the NASS Should Ghana must go be needed, to support them so be it.
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by top4: 9:00am On Mar 17, 2018
Many of our senators are just fighting for their own pocket. they should just leave Mr president to perform his duty. He knows what is right and wrong for his government in particular and the nation in general
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by blackgold2018(m): 9:12am On Mar 17, 2018
kokozain:
We know their game. Because someone like saraki cannot win his polling booth(though rigged with just 7votes ove PDP)in the last LGA election that was done in kwara. So the only hope is to make sure he use baba influence to cone back to red chamber. Ifvtheir elections comes first the President as a matter of fact will support them after their own has been won they will do anti party against the president. And make him loose. So its very logical. Who made saraki lost in his polling booth so let's just wait as matter unfolds in kwara politics
Thrash. If you don't know what to say just shut up.
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by blackgold2018(m): 9:21am On Mar 17, 2018
NaijaMutant:
I am 100% in support of the NA and the election reordering.

What does buhari have to fear if he has performed well undecided
I support the NA too. But it's a clear advantage to d PDP and d aggrieved APC members.
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by Tecno66:
The present upheaval about the scheduling of elections appear to be about Buhari and 2019. It shouldnt be. We need to put good plans in place for the future of Nigeria and not just about 2019. It just doesnt make sense to be changing election sequence to suite whoever is president. Most times we hear that Jonathan did the same thing. Must we continue to use the error of a previous government as excuse to continue to do the wrong things?
kokozain:
We know their game. Because someone like saraki cannot win his polling booth(though rigged with just 7votes ove PDP)in the last LGA election that was done in kwara. So the only hope is to make sure he use baba influence to cone back to red chamber. Ifvtheir elections comes first the President as a matter of fact will support them after their own has been won they will do anti party against the president. And make him loose. So its very logical. Who made saraki lost in his polling booth so let's just wait as matter unfolds in kwara politics
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by Kabir2Mohammad(m): 10:07am On Mar 17, 2018
life2017:
https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/electoral-amendment-saraki-dogara-bicker-over-plot-to-override-buhari.html

That is the big issue. Buhari is not sharing Ghana must go and dollars. That is why Saraki is powerful because he is the only source of money for the senators.
In Nigeria it is crime to be sincere in public office, this is where PMB got it wrong.
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by WhiskeyTangoFox: 10:12am On Mar 17, 2018
kokozain:
We know their game. Because someone like saraki cannot win his polling booth(though rigged with just 7votes ove PDP)in the last LGA election that was done in kwara. So the only hope is to make sure he use baba influence to cone back to red chamber. Ifvtheir elections comes first the President as a matter of fact will support them after their own has been won they will do anti party against the president. And make him loose. So its very logical. Who made saraki lost in his polling booth so let's just wait as matter unfolds in kwara politics
What are u saying, if Saraki wants to use baba's influence then why is he pushing for the amendement? Isn't it clear to all that some lawmakers are really not deserving of their place and these lawmakers are the ones pushing against the ammendment. The proposed timetable is the way forward if we are to have responsible leaders. What do we really want in this country? how can pple openly speak against an ammendment we know will improve the electoral process, just for their individual political interest. I'm getting convinced we like how it is run, and those that run/ruin it.
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by WhiskeyTangoFox: 10:22am On Mar 17, 2018
blackgold2018:
I support the NA too. But it's a clear advantage to d PDP and d aggrieved APC members.
don't u think those doing the right thing in this country should be at an advantage? Some of us dnt care about which party has which advantage, we only care about doing things the right way in this country and it's never too late to start. The newly suggested order of elections is the right and progressive way, any prospective contestant will know he/she has to work hard to convince the grassroot. The previous order made it too easy for the wrong pple to end up in elected positions, and that is a major problem the country is facing.
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by ReubenE(m): 11:23am On Mar 17, 2018
agabusta:
Long but interesting report.

Time seems to be on the part of the president as the 2019 elections is just in less than 1 year.


People are just getting unnecessary emotional about this election sequence while ignoring the other valid points raised by the president in withholding his assent.

They need to go back and take another look at those bills. If they want INEC to conduct local government elections, it has to be via a constitutional amendment.

The president equally queried why 2 grounds for challenging the outcome of an election at an Election Tribunal was removed.

A lot of both readers and the media has not deemed it fit to reveal which justifications for challenging election results were removed to be able to establish if it will be in the overall benefit of the country or the NASS was just being selfish. This is even more important than the election sequence everybody is singing about.

It is quite ironical that it is the president they call illiterate that has been regularly communicating with the NASS on bills he is withholding assent while giving justifications.

I never heard of GEJ/Yaradua communicating with the house in this regard. For Obasanjo only few occasions.

GEJ simply collated their bills in one corner of Aso Rock and was enjoying his fisherman soup and kain kain. At a time, there was a report of almost 200 bills awaiting Presidential assent/assent decline. It was only the constitutional amendment he vetoed at the tail end of his administration. That was a credit to him I must say, as the amendments sought to water down some powers of the president, and he definitely cannot be there for ever.

They should go and work on the amendments with more zeal and give critical attention to the points raised by the president, otherwise the Supreme Court will just throw the Act to the dustbin based on its contradictory stance with the constitution.

There is even a subsisting Supreme Court judgment in this regard during the Obasanjo time.
You write very well but sound very dull.
Is it not possible for you to make sense without making reference to the previous government?
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by BlackPantherxXx: 11:33am On Mar 17, 2018
kokozain:
We know their game. Because someone like saraki cannot win his polling booth(though rigged with just 7votes over PDP)in the last LGA election that was done in kwara. So the only hope is to make sure he use baba influence to come back to red chamber. If their elections comes first the President as a matter of fact will support them after their own has been won they will do anti party against the president. And make him loose. So its very logical. Kwarans will make saraki lose in his polling booth so let's just wait as matter unfolds in kwara politics
I wish this was true, Sir. But unfortunately, some Kwarans are not ready to quit slavery. I lived in Kwara for decades so it makes me sad.
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by BlackPantherxXx: 11:40am On Mar 17, 2018
WisdomFlakes:
The above quote by pro-Buhari senators is so true. I have come to the realization that Buhari is not worth fighting for because of his indifferent attitude towards politics and his habit of abandoning those fighting on his behalf. He is the major architect of the problems the party is facing with the NA, where a 'majority' party (APC) is being bullied by a more astute and savy minority (PDP). Buhari's cluelessness is making Goodluck Jonathan look like a genius in that regard.
Your comment is perfect, all the pro-PMB senators who fought for him were mercilessly shredded effortlessly and without any succor. Though, truly i wonder what PMB would have done to protect them, LOL. Saraki is firmly in control of the Senate, nothing can be done about it at the moment
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by senatordave1(m): 11:44am On Mar 17, 2018
WhiskeyTangoFox:
don't u think those doing the right thing in this country should be at an advantage? Some of us dnt care about which party has which advantage, we only care about doing things the right way in this country and it's never too late to start. The newly suggested order of elections is the right and progressive way, any prospective contestant will know he/she has to work hard to convince the grassroot. The previous order made it too easy for the wrong pple to end up in elected positions, and that is a major problem the country is facing.
It may be right morally but its unconstitutional.the constitution has given inec the powers over all electoral matters including reordering of sequence.if nass wants to change the sequence,they need to first amend the constitution not amending the electoral act.are you not aware of the inferiority of the act to the constitution? If you dont,remove yourself from this argument.
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by senatordave1(m): 11:46am On Mar 17, 2018
BlackPantherxXx:
Your comment is perfect, all the pro-PMB senators who fought for him were mercilessly shredded effortlessly and without any succor. Though, truly i wonder what PMB would have done to protect them, LOL. Saraki is firmly in control of the Senate, nothing can be done about it at the moment
You are right.but dogara is very wise by siding with ths president tactically.he knows he is at loggrheads with his state governor and the best thing to do now is to please the presidency.dino is too blind to see this common sense.anyway i see the supreme court settling this issue in favour of inec.
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by senatordave1(m): 11:51am On Mar 17, 2018
emmykk:
when you want to build a house do you start from foundation or from roofing.


if the president is so loved why is he afraid of the election time table....You remember how Obj cornered ACN because election started from top he did a public holiday on tue day atiku case was to be decided as presidential candidate of ACN.And because the electionn was the 1st ACN had no presidential candidate.


so stop commenting emotional on issue neither you nor me will benefit.it is rhe duty if lawmaker to make laws the president is to sign it and not reject it
Its not their right to make laws that are against the constitution.why dont they put their own elections last or second? Why is it first if its not for selfisg purpose? What concerns nass and election sequence? Allowing nass to reorder the sequence is like allowing the executive to make laws.
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by CofOLandOfPeace(m): 11:57am On Mar 17, 2018
Politics games
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by dheilaw1(m): 11:58am On Mar 17, 2018
agabusta:
Long but interesting report.

Time seems to be on the part of the president as the 2019 elections is just in less than 1 year.


People are just getting unnecessary emotional about this election sequence while ignoring the other valid points raised by the president in withholding his assent.

They need to go back and take another look at those bills. If they want INEC to conduct local government elections, it has to be via a constitutional amendment.

The president equally queried why 2 grounds for challenging the outcome of an election at an Election Tribunal was removed.

A lot of both readers and the media has not deemed it fit to reveal which justifications for challenging election results were removed to be able to establish if it will be in the overall benefit of the country or the NASS was just being selfish. This is even more important than the election sequence everybody is singing about.

It is quite ironical that it is the president they call illiterate that has been regularly communicating with the NASS on bills he is withholding assent while giving justifications.

I never heard of GEJ/Yaradua communicating with the house in this regard. For Obasanjo only few occasions.

GEJ simply collated their bills in one corner of Aso Rock and was enjoying his fisherman soup and kain kain. At a time, there was a report of almost 200 bills awaiting Presidential assent/assent decline. It was only the constitutional amendment he vetoed at the tail end of his administration. That was a credit to him I must say, as the amendments sought to water down some powers of the president, and he definitely cannot be there for ever.

They should go and work on the amendments with more zeal and give critical attention to the points raised by the president, otherwise the Supreme Court will just throw the Act to the dustbin based on its contradictory stance with the constitution.

There is even a subsisting Supreme Court judgment in this regard during the Obasanjo time.
this is beautiful. may God continue to make your brain whole. I like to be friend with you if you won't mind
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by olujastro: 12:27pm On Mar 17, 2018
WhiskeyTangoFox:
don't u think those doing the right thing in this country should be at an advantage? Some of us dnt care about which party has which advantage, we only care about doing things the right way in this country and it's never too late to start. The newly suggested order of elections is the right and progressive way, any prospective contestant will know he/she has to work hard to convince the grassroot. The previous order made it too easy for the wrong pple to end up in elected positions, and that is a major problem the country is facing.
I agree with you. But to get the perfect order where each candidate stands on his own popularity during elections, we may have to conduct 3 elections which will cost us more time(3 weeks) and money. Because even the state assembly legislators have to also stand on their own and not be reliant on or controlled by the governor.
Which leads us to:
Day 1 - National and State Assembly elections
Day 2 - Governorship elections
Day 3 - Presidential election.
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by Wada3: 1:13pm On Mar 17, 2018
My brother, thank you very much for your position as it is patriotically based with evidence. Saraki is already a drowning man. [gquote author=agabusta post=65905675]Long but interesting report.

Time seems to be on the part of the president as the 2019 elections is just in less than 1 year.


People are just getting unnecessary emotional about this election sequence while ignoring the other valid points raised by the president in withholding his assent.

They need to go back and take another look at those bills. If they want INEC to conduct local government elections, it has to be via a constitutional amendment.

The president equally queried why 2 grounds for challenging the outcome of an election at an Election Tribunal was removed.

A lot of both readers and the media has not deemed it fit to reveal which justifications for challenging election results were removed to be able to establish if it will be in the overall benefit of the country or the NASS was just being selfish. This is even more important than the election sequence everybody is singing about.

It is quite ironical that it is the president they call illiterate that has been regularly communicating with the NASS on bills he is withholding assent while giving justifications.

I never heard of GEJ/Yaradua communicating with the house in this regard. For Obasanjo only few occasions.

GEJ simply collated their bills in one corner of Aso Rock and was enjoying his fisherman soup and kain kain. At a time, there was a report of almost 200 bills awaiting Presidential assent/assent decline. It was only the constitutional amendment he vetoed at the tail end of his administration. That was a credit to him I must say, as the amendments sought to water down some powers of the president, and he definitely cannot be there for ever.

They should go and work on the amendments with more zeal and give critical attention to the points raised by the president, otherwise the Supreme Court will just throw the Act to the dustbin based on its contradictory stance with the constitution.

There is even a subsisting Supreme Court judgment in this regard during the Obasanjo time.[/quote]
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by Wada3: 1:16pm On Mar 17, 2018
My brother, thank you very much for your position as it is patriotically based with evidence. Saraki is already a drowning man.
agabusta:
Long but interesting report.

Time seems to be on the part of the president as the 2019 elections is just in less than 1 year.


People are just getting unnecessary emotional about this election sequence while ignoring the other valid points raised by the president in withholding his assent.

They need to go back and take another look at those bills. If they want INEC to conduct local government elections, it has to be via a constitutional amendment.

The president equally queried why 2 grounds for challenging the outcome of an election at an Election Tribunal was removed.

A lot of both readers and the media has not deemed it fit to reveal which justifications for challenging election results were removed to be able to establish if it will be in the overall benefit of the country or the NASS was just being selfish. This is even more important than the election sequence everybody is singing about.

It is quite ironical that it is the president they call illiterate that has been regularly communicating with the NASS on bills he is withholding assent while giving justifications.

I never heard of GEJ/Yaradua communicating with the house in this regard. For Obasanjo only few occasions.

GEJ simply collated their bills in one corner of Aso Rock and was enjoying his fisherman soup and kain kain. At a time, there was a report of almost 200 bills awaiting Presidential assent/assent decline. It was only the constitutional amendment he vetoed at the tail end of his administration. That was a credit to him I must say, as the amendments sought to water down some powers of the president, and he definitely cannot be there for ever.

They should go and work on the amendments with more zeal and give critical attention to the points raised by the president, otherwise the Supreme Court will just throw the Act to the dustbin based on its contradictory stance with the constitution.

There is even a subsisting Supreme Court judgment in this regard during the Obasanjo time.
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by waveman2: 1:20pm On Mar 17, 2018
Followership doesn't, t mean wisdom. It only tells the kind of person u are and will tell the kind of followers u would have. He won bcoz the north never wanted a southern president. He won because he was repackaged by tinubu and Co to the southwest.so get your facts, buhari is not a presidential material. He would have been better off has the EFCC chairman. This law will create a level playing field for everyone and would even help in reducing voters inducement and other vices. It will strengthen our democracy. What is Buhari afraid of?The law makers are there to create laws to strengthen our democracy so they should be allowed to do their jobs.


muykem:
A man rose to the highest of his career to become head of state and years later become a civilian president defeating incumbent. Please what is wisdom? It is ability to achieve your goals. Check your region if you can find any man as wise as Buhari.
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by Olumaeme: 1:24pm On Mar 17, 2018
kokozain:
We know their game. Because someone like saraki cannot win his polling booth(though rigged with just 7votes over PDP)in the last LGA election that was done in kwara. So the only hope is to make sure he use baba influence to come back to red chamber. If their elections comes first the President as a matter of fact will support them after their own has been won they will do anti party against the president. And make him loose. So its very logical. Kwarans will make saraki lose in his polling booth so let's just wait as matter unfolds in kwara politics
Hehehehehehe hehehehehehe hehehehehehe

Saraki is more sure of Kwara than Tinubu is for Lagos
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by Olumaeme: 1:33pm On Mar 17, 2018
One thing I continue to ask myself is, why is buhari afraid of Election reform ordering? It's not that, they are saying his votes will be divided into two at the end of the day na.

He said he's very popular, he goes out and RED carpet rolled out for him, he thinks he has performed, some folks even told us that his popularity brought most of the members of the National Assembly, then let their own elections come first so they can test their popularity and know who is who..

The electorate will also be able to carefully vote for who represents them, because most times, all the attention is always on the presidency, and after it, everybody goes to sleep, waiting for mannas to start falling from heaven..

Truth be told, this 8th Assembly has demonstrated how independence legislator should look like, they shouldn't just be a rubber stamp where everything goes, They should have the balls and all the rights do do what they think is right and not what the president thinks, not that they have done anything tangible for the people much, but if not for them, buhari would have turn himself to something else..

Bravo to Saraki!

Bravo to Dino Melaye!
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by uridadole: 1:39pm On Mar 17, 2018
NaijaMutant:
If buhari is wiser than you, then you require special prayers to become useful in life undecided
You think buhari is so daft as uninformed social network users claim. You de dream in your dream
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by senatordave1(m): 3:30pm On Mar 17, 2018
Olumaeme:
One thing I continue to ask myself is, why is buhari afraid of Election reform ordering? It's not that, they are saying his votes will be divided into two at the end of the day na.

He said he's very popular, he goes out and RED carpet rolled out for him, he thinks he has performed, some folks even told us that his popularity brought most of the members of the National Assembly, then let their own elections come first so they can test their popularity and know who is who..

The electorate will also be able to carefully vote for who represents them, because most times, all the attention is always on the presidency, and after it, everybody goes to sleep, waiting for mannas to start falling from heaven..

Truth be told, this 8th Assembly has demonstrated how independence legislator should look like, they shouldn't just be a rubber stamp where everything goes, They should have the balls and all the rights do do what they think is right and not what the president thinks, not that they have done anything tangible for the people much, but if not for them, buhari would have turn himself to something else..

Bravo to Saraki!

Bravo to Dino Melaye!
Stop this nonsense repetition please.me and you have settled this issue before in another thread,why resurrect it agsin? Why cant you do your findings instead of being blinded by hatred for buhari? I repeat,inec has been given the power of reordering of election sequence by the constitution.if you must take away that power,you must amend that section of the constitution.amending an electoral act which is inferior to the constitution is ridiculous.apart from that through the power of discretion,what concerns nass with elections in which there are participants? Are there now another inec or what?
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by agabusta:
ReubenE:
You write very well but sound very dull.
Is it not possible for you to make sense without making reference to the previous government?
Only foolish people refuse to draw parallel from past occurrences. There must always be a reference point in order to compare two or more entities.
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by teebell999(m): 7:22pm On Mar 17, 2018
NaijaMutant:
Just shut up already.

With all the gory scenes in Nigeria, you should be volunteering to help carry Buhari's luggage back to Daura.

Who needs his bloody money huh
He said his mind which he's entitled to as a Nigerian. Say yours and stop shutting anyone up. We r adults here.
Re: Electoral Amendment: Saraki, Dogara Lock Horns Over Plot To Override Buhari.. by Okoroawusa: 8:19pm On Mar 17, 2018
dignity33:
I see no need he didn't sign the bill if he have no hidden agenda toward 2019 poll.
Did u read the post at all?
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