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| Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 3:46pm On Mar 23, 2018*. Modified: 7:18pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
The Italian government has pledged $1.8 million towards the feasibility study of water transfer from the Congo River to the Lake Chad basin.Source: http://www.africareview.com/news/Italy-to-help-save-Lake-Chad/979180-4324424-orpmvv/index.html Front Page: Lalasticlala |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 4:26pm On Mar 23, 2018*. Modified: 7:32pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Looks like Buhari efforts are paying off. Lol alot of nairalanders were mocking him for asking for donations even though this could potentially benefit Europe as well. This lake replenishment project if done would be biggest water diversion project ever if it happens. It would transfer 100 million cubic meters of water. The benefits are increased irrigation, stability, fishing, trade etc. The only big issues are water management and it's feasibility. The project will be expensive in tens of billion on dollar cost. The solution I like for water management would be tradeable water market like Australia. Most of the water regulation currently are weak in Nigeria section of Lake Chad. |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Nobody: 5:40pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Nairaland Economics Blue 3,000 |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 7:02pm On Mar 23, 2018*. Modified: 7:32pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
• Article about Transaqua • The VP Speaking on the Lake Chad issue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7VydgL1T68 • Videos about Transaqua https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JaY80Hjtto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPb9rSLsjoI Front Page: Lalasticlala |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Iceberg3: 7:50pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Blue3k:Alumajiri . City beggars ![]() |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 7:54pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Iceberg3:Lol this genetic defect wants attention so bad. Oh well thanks for bumping thread. Feel free to comment more. |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Iceberg3: 7:58pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Blue3k:Mental. ![]() |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 8:16pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Anyway a navigable canal sounds cool. It would be cool especially if Nigeria decided to join free trade zone at some point. MrHowto:Thanks |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 8:32pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Not a good idea because it takes away responsibility from the benefiiaries (Moral Hazard) to continue marrying 5 wives and having countless children without taking responsibility. If it wlll dry let it dry> 1.8 million USD is nothing it will need billions and no way is that money comming from Southern Nigeria. Let them embrace education or calll Allah to save them |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by anibirelawal(m): 8:58pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
0monnak0da:What are you saying??! |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Nobody: 10:48pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
0monnak0da:I'm also thinking of where the FG will get the funds for the project. What's the contribution of the north east to Nigeria |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 2:40pm On Mar 24, 2018*. Modified: 3:04pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
0monnak0da:Your moral hazard argument stems from tragedy of commons which is solved by correcting incentive structure. The two big factors are climate change and water management as ministry of water resources states. Their propensity to procreate doesn't effect sun. The water management issue of government at state and federal not regulating water use like irrigation. The 1.8 million is for the feasilibilty study. You're right n the billion of dollars needed. It would require lion share to come from Nigeria. The other countries in LCBC would have to contribute. |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 3:11pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Blue3k:The emboldened sentences are incomprehensible to me I am afraid. I am sure they make plenty of sense TO YOU. People don't have to live everywhere on this planet. No one lives in Antarctica because of the climate. Very few people live in Siberia but those that do developed the resources to survive. Their responsibility. History tells us that. If a people or specied not have the resources to survive they go extinct. Man as the "highest" animal on this planet has survived in different habitata always by resourcefulness not charity. The problem with the excessve procreation is when they start starving to death we shall be inundated with images of their starving brats asking for handouts. All of this in the same region that kidnaps young girls for going to school. If they are not left to nature they wll not curb their fecundity and they will take no responsibility for ensuring their survival. Some peoples livein earthquake zones. They developed the resources to survive. Here we have a people with a deterinistic world view who believe anything does not happen unless Allah wills it. It is a terrible idea. Let us not interfere with nature as an act of charity. If those who are most affected have the resources to do so fine. Why did we not pay off Cameroon in the case of Bakassi? We abandoned the to theiir fate what have we done about oil spillage in the Niger Delta |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 3:35pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
You don't understand defition of incentive structure? In this scenario it simply means they have to be more responsible for water use. This can be done with permits and price factor. Their behaviour isn't set in stone. How do you not understand fact that the Lake isn't drying directly because of increased water use. Plenty of places from Singapore to UAE experienced high population growth without water crisis. The easy answer is managing water better. People have already moved. You think building the world's biggest water diversion project isn't resourceful. The LCBC already raised cash for study and have started in 2009 with CIMA. Their simply more work to do. Next human being transform environment that's why places that won't naturally support high population end up doing so later on. Lol you act like Nigerians in lake chad are separate entity. Why do you expect them to solve issue on their own without federal assistance. Why don't you feel same way about bakassi they should have fought on their own. History shows if your weak you risk losing territory. That's a bad example since you know it was litigated in international court. Cameroon didn't want money they wanted the oil fields. The only option was war. The oil spills are just as important budget cash for both. The point is this isn't an issue of nature. It's msinly economic. It's the same reason the Chinese are building South–North Water Transfer Project. It's not just the people in rural China doing it themselves. 0monnak0da: |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 3:43pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Blue3k:Who is solving the Niger Delta oiil spillage and flaring? The chronic environmental degradation? Where is the bilion dollar package and international conference to deal with that?? Ultimately in life ,people have to pay their way? If economic activity in the region cannot pay for it then the region is not viable. I do not see Russia dropping nuclear bombs in Siberia to melt snow so people can live there. Do you know that there has not always been a Sahara dessert. Over 30,000 pteroglyphs of river animals such as crocodiles have been found in the Sahara. Nature ran its course Technologically it should be possible to build desalination plants and pump desalinated water from the ocean and rehydrate and reforest the whole place. The problem is COST. Who will pay for it ![]() Why stop with Lake Chad why not pump water and create rivers and more lakes across the Sahara? Money That money has an opportunity cost If Lake Chad is not viable let them move to Kano Resourcefulness does not mean someone else paying your bills |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 4:02pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
The government of Nigeria doesn't need a conference to stop flaring and spills. The NASS can pass a law and police can enfore it.the enviromental degradation steps from regulation and pipeline bombing. The should be packages to clean up oil spills like in Ogoni. The reason for conference was because issues spans multiple countries borders. Any solution requires consensus from all parties involved. If the Niger Delta can't solve oil spills with federal assistence it's not viable. I mean after all the money it gets why not. Translation or even most big projects are taken up by federal government like dams for a reason. I go back to China example of South–North Water Transfer Project. The region the water going to can't pay it in their dreams but that doesn't mean it's not viable. Your Russia example is silly. I already answered who will pay for it question. It will probably lion share Nigeria and other members of LCBC. They are moving already to Kano and Lagos. What do you think happens when over 100 million poor people become destitute by lake drying. The opportunity cost is a humanitarian disaster in waiting. Is giving assistence bad it's temporary aid for specific purpose? The Italians are doing it for their own reason like keep African migrants out their nation. The transaqua idea also came out if Italy decades ago. 0monnak0da: |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 4:05pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Blue3k:Nigeria does not have that kind of money that is the summarry of my position. We already owe so much. Even if we had such money there are more imprtant things to do with it. It is not going to happen |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 4:12pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
0monnak0da:I think the money would be worth it. Nigeria and all the member countries can collectively raise it. The project won't be done overnight. Such project work in phases built canal slowly but surely. It could happen if the countries are serious. |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 4:17pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Blue3k:Raise it from where exactly? I can see you are a fantasist just like with the Cross River Budget you like to deal in make believe and fantasy. A country that is struggling to pay salaries across several states,cannot build a second Niger bridge or complete Lagos Ibadan expressway will "raise money from where?By selling Buharis's cows? |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 4:28pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Taxes and borrowing dude. Those are only two options. Nobody is serious about second Niger Bridge. You like repeating same questions over and over. I said Nigeria and rest of LCBC. The project don't in phases. The cross river budget passed. You asked me where to find information. I told you them you asked me silli questions since you were forgot how Google worked. The budget they passed has its issues I posted topic about the lose accounting the did to get to their number. I'm guess it's just your humor like the nuke Siberia comment. Pay off Cameroon for bakkasi. Regions that can't solve envirental issues should be abandoned... 0monnak0da: |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by ZombieTAMER: 4:29pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
I can see that Italians don't know what to do with their money |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 5:01pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Blue3k:Borrow from God? You think lenders are stupid? Is there no limit to the amount of money in the world that can be borrowed? Stop deceiving yourself . There is a limit to what you can borrow and tax and the demands on the goverment far surpass that by far that is why Nigeria is considered a POOR country. We have to make choices and this Lake Chad Fantasy is not going to happen just like your 1 trillion Cross River State budget of Kinetic Electroagnetization. The only place it will happen is on the internet |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 5:10pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Lol you said same thing about Akwa Ibom budget themlm dropped it. You ra t get tired then move on to next issue. The cross river one is possible but it would throw state into crazy debt. That's why they started doing funny accounting saying investment in projects counts as budget. In the world their trillions of dollars available. The issue is mainly with can entity in question pay back. The answer determines if the get the money. The lake chad can happen if they're serious. 0monnak0da: |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 5:10pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
ZombieTAMER:For where? No be pledge? Na today? leave story . Come and confirm when you see the money |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 5:16pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Blue3k:Akwa Ibom budget? Me when where? Guy wake up stopthe lies and stop the fantasy. The Cross River one WILL NOT HAPPEN. We both know this so again stop the delusion. A state claims to have passed a budget ( which is a law) and no public copy is available/ You keep banging on about borrowing as if all that is needed is to express a desire to borrow and lenders will queue up at your door to buy application forms so they can lend you money The Lake Chad thing will only happen if someone else pays for it not Nigeria so drop that fantasy. Won't happen |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 5:27pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
You're right on the Akwa Ibom thing my mistake. I remembered someone else. I told you the accounting crazy with cross river. It's possible but not likely. You say their no public budget released but you didn't visit state website or Google for it. The lake chad can happen if they're serious. The monet can be raised by all the members. You already gave all the silly reason why not. The project can be built in phases. All the reason have been disputed hence why you keep running around talking about cross river. Again you sane guy that claimed budget was a secret because you didn't want to Google anything. 0monnak0da: |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 5:32pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Blue3k:How do you know what I did or did not do? It simply will not happen. I wonder if you work for the government. With regard to Lake Chad It wil not happen because the political will cannot be mustered. There are more important priorities especially in the Niger Delta where the FG gets most of its money. It is a ridiculous fantasy |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 5:39pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Why would you ask me is it a secret after I told you to Google your question. That's why I assume you didn't. I don't work for cross river government. I disagree about lake chad the will can be mustered. They've been working toward the goal for awhile. The next step is finishing the study. This project doesn't stop any other project in Niger delta so don't lose sleep over it. 0monnak0da: |
| Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by BabatCargo(m): 5:47pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
The river is fast depleting in the last couple of years.something needs to be done as soon as possible Enjoy easter discount |
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