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When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by iamgenius(m): 5:41pm On Mar 22, 2018
Question :

What is the ruling on sex change operations (gender reassignment surgery) in the case of necessity? For example, if a child is born and has Instruments that does not match his gender, and it is possible to surgically reconstruct it? What is the ruling if this child grows up and becomes transgendered, and thus cannot get married, and this is on the basis of medical evidence on which the doctors are agreed, but social standards reject this surgery, and this sex-change operation is for the sake of medical treatment?

Answer:

Praise be to Allah.

Firstly:

It is not possible for anyone, no matter who he is, to change the creation of Allah, may He be exalted, from male to female or vice versa. Whoever Allah, may He be exalted, has created as a male can never become a female who menstruates and gives birth!

Yes, the doctors may tamper with him to satisfy his perversion so that he will think that he has become a woman, but he will never be truly female and will live in a state of anxiety and worry, which may lead him to commit suicide.

Secondly:

What a person may feel in his mind and heart, that he is of a gender other than what he appears to be to us does not give him an excuse to change his gender; rather it comes under the heading of following the Shaytaan in changing the creation of Allah – outwardly but not truly – and those feelings do not make it permissible for him to undergo surgery or take medicines and hormones to change his outward appearance. Rather he must be content with the decree of Allah, may He be exalted, and treat his case on the basis of faith and obedience to Allah. It is not permissible for him to make himself appear outwardly to be of a gender other than his real gender with which Allah created him, otherwise he will be committing a major sin; if this person is really female then she will be masculinised and if he is really male then he will be effeminate.

The surgery that is permissible in such cases is if a person was originally created male or female, but his genital organs are hidden. In that case it is permissible to do surgery in order to make those organs appear, and to give him or her medicine or hormones to strengthen the characteristics with which Allah originally created him or her.

But in the case of one who was created with both female and male Instruments – this is what is called ambiguous intersex – it is not permissible to be hasty in removing one and making the other more apparent. Rather we should wait until it is known what Allah, may He be exalted, will decree for this individual, which may become apparent after some time has passed.


There follows a detailed fatwa from the scholars of the Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas, who were asked about a case similar to what is mentioned in the question. They replied:

Firstly: [/b]Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): [b]“To Allah belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth. He creates what He wills. He bestows female (offspring) upon whom He wills, and bestows male (offspring) upon whom He wills. Or He bestows both males and females, and He renders barren whom He wills. Verily, He is the All-Knower and is Able to do all things” [ash-Shoora 42:49].
So the Muslim must accept and be content with whatever Allah creates and decrees.

In your case, if you are as you mentioned, that you are certain of your masculinity and that you can play the male role efficiently, even if you have not actually engaged in any sexual activity with any person, then you must preserve your masculinity and accept that which Allah has granted to you of virtue and a favourable situation. .

[b]Secondly: [/b]once your masculinity is proven and established, then having surgery to turn into a female – as you think – is changing the creation of Allah, and is an expression of discontent on your part with what Allah has chosen for you, even if we assume that the surgery is going to be successful and lead to what you want of becoming female. But there is no way that it can be successful, for both males and females have their own, distinct faculties and physical makeup, the development and characteristics of which are decreed only by Allah, may He be exalted, and are not just the penis of the male or the vaginal opening of the female. Rather the man has a complete, integrated system comprising the testicles and other organs, each of which has a special function and characteristics, and produces specific secretions and so on. Likewise the woman has a uterus and other connected parts that work in harmony with it, and each part has its own function and characteristics, and produces specific secretions and so on. Among all of them there are connections and harmony over which none of His creation have any power of estimation, creation, control, management or preservation. Rather all of that is under the control of Allah, the All-Knowing, Most Wise, Most High, Almighty, Most Kind and All-Aware.

Therefore the surgery that you want to do is a kind of tampering and striving for something in which there is no benefit. In fact it may be dangerous; if it does not lead to death, then at the very least it will lead to taking away that which Allah has given you without you attaining what you want, and you will still be affected by what you have mentioned of psychological problems that you want to get rid of by means of this surgery that is bound to fail.

[b]Thirdly: [/b]if your masculinity is not established, and you only think that you are a man because of what you see in your body of outward masculine appearance, in contrast to what you feel in yourself of having feminine characteristics and an inclination towards males and being sexually attracted to them, then you should examine your situation and not go ahead with the surgery that you have mentioned. You should consult experienced specialist doctors. If they determine that you are male in outward appearance but are in fact female, then you may submit yourself to their treatment, so that they can bring out your femininity by doing surgery. But that will not in fact be a sex change from male to female, because this will not be up to them; rather it will be bringing out your true nature and removing what is in your body, and what you feel deep inside you of confusion and ambiguity. But if nothing is clear to the experts, then do not take the risk of undergoing this surgery; be content with the decree of Allah and be patient with what has befallen you, seeking to please your Lord and protecting yourself against the possible consequences of doing an operation without guidance and insight concerning your condition. Turn to Allah and beseech Him to relieve you of what you are facing, and to heal you from your psychological problems, for control of all things is in His hand, may He be glorified, and He is able to do all things. End quote.

Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz, Shaykh ‘Abd ar-Razzaaq ‘Afeefi, Shaykh ‘Abdullah ibn Qa‘ood, Shaykh ‘Abdullah ibn Ghadyaan

Fataawa al-Lajnah ad-Daa’imah (25/45-49)

And Allah knows best.

https://islamqa.info/en/138451

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Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by tintingz(m): 1:49pm On Mar 23, 2018
This article lack proper psychological and scientific approach.

So what if a man with gender dysphoria go through psychological therapy but didn't work, what then is next? You think some magic will happen?
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by maclatunji: 12:05pm On Mar 28, 2018
tintingz:
This article lack proper psychological and scientific approach.

So what if a man with gender dysphoria go through psychological therapy but didn't work, what then is next? You think some magic will happen?


You need a smacking. A man is a man, a woman is a woman. Anyone claiming to feel like the other gender should not be paid attention to. It is the beginning of wrongdoing and mischief.
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by tintingz(m): 12:26pm On Mar 28, 2018
maclatunji:



You need a smacking. A man is a man, a woman is a woman. Anyone claiming to feel like the other gender should not be paid attention to. It is the beginning of wrongdoing and mischief.
Ofcos a man is a man, a woman is a woman, but what happens when it comes to a psychological and biological issue?

Sir, educate yourself,

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/conditions/gender-dysphoria

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by maclatunji: 7:44pm On Mar 28, 2018
tintingz:
Ofcos a man is a man, a woman is a woman, but what happens when it comes to a psychological and biological issue?

Sir, educate yourself,

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/conditions/gender-dysphoria

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria



Don't get lost in all that rubbish. The next thing you will be defending homosexuality with the same twisted logic.
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by tintingz(m): 8:37pm On Mar 28, 2018
maclatunji:


Don't get lost in all that rubbish. The next thing you will be defending homosexuality with the same twisted logic.
These are observation and experiments in psychological and biological problems not some mumbo jumbo.

And as for homosexuality, I'm NOT against it, it's not hurting anyone.
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by iamgenius(m): 10:34pm On Mar 28, 2018
tintingz:
Ofcos a man is a man, a woman is a woman, but what happens when it comes to a psychological and biological issue?

Sir, educate yourself,

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/conditions/gender-dysphoria

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria


What you failed to understand is that whenever human beings agree on a particular thing as being true some people will always try to find faults in it. The ideology brought by some people sometimes changes the thinking of some people from right to wrong.

Gender dysphoria which is a psychological issue is caused by some people. It may be caused by the environment which the person lives or by wrong upbringing of the person.

In some countries, societies or even in some families, some parents take care of the Male child than the female child because they think the male child is superior to the female. Reverse is the case in another society.

Someone who sees this inferiority that happens in his/her society will wish to be the opposite sex. This and many other problems caused by the environment and upbringing makes a person wish to be the opposite sex.

The case is different if the person is an hermaphrodite. What the article is telling you in short is that A man is a man if he posses the characterised a man, and a woman is a woman too.

More importantly, this is a minor issue compared to your believe.
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by tintingz(m): 6:48am On Mar 29, 2018
iamgenius:
What you failed to understand is that whenever human beings agree on a particular thing as being true some people will always try to find faults in it. The ideology brought by some people sometimes changes the thinking of some people from right to wrong.
When there's a consensus on a matter it must come with fact, opinions, evidence or lack of evidence.

Truth can be relative, do you think scientists or psychologists will totally agree with this thread article? No, because it lack proper scientific approach, the article is more of religious sentiment than psychological and scientific approach.

Gender dysphoria which is a psychological issue is caused by some people. It may be caused by the environment which the person lives or by wrong upbringing of the person.

In some countries, societies or even in some families, some parents take care of the Male child than the female child because they think the male child is superior to the female. Reverse is the case in another society.

Someone who sees this inferiority that happens in his/her society will wish to be the opposite sex. This and many other problems caused by the environment and upbringing makes a person wish to be the opposite sex.
Kindly provide evidence for the bolded part above.

What cause gender dysphoria is unknown yet, but it can be biological.

Here,

The cause of gender dysphoria is unknown, but hormonal influences in the womb are suspected to be involved. The condition is rare and may occur in children or adults.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/conditions/gender-dysphoria

Wikipedia,

There is evidence suggesting that twins who identify with a gender different from their assigned sex may do so not only due to psychological or behavioral causes, but also biological ones related to their genetics or exposure to hormones before birth.

A twin study (based on seven people in a 314 sample) suggested that GID may be 62% heritable, indicating the possibility of a genetic influence or prenatal development as its origin, in these cases.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria

What actually caused it is not certainly known yet but these are experiments done to have clues on what could caused it. Although some people fake it to draw attention.


The case is different if the person is an hermaphrodite. What the article is telling you in short is that A man is a man if he posses the characterised a man, and a woman is a woman too.
A man is a man and a woman is a woman, does it end there? Are humans robots?


More importantly, this is a minor issue compared to your believe.
I don't get this part.
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by maclatunji: 12:05pm On Mar 29, 2018
tintingz:
These are observation and experiments in psychological and biological problems not some mumbo jumbo.

And as for homosexuality, I'm NOT against it, it's not hurting anyone.

It was not difficult to see you would defend it with your twisted arguments.

What shall we do with you?
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by tintingz(m): 12:10pm On Mar 29, 2018
maclatunji:


It was not difficult to see you would defend it with your twisted arguments.

What shall we do with you?
Tell Allah to throw me inside hell. grin
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by maclatunji: 1:29pm On Mar 29, 2018
tintingz:
Tell Allah to throw me inside hell. grin

We shall pray for your guidance in spite of yourself.

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Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by AlBaqir(m): 1:36pm On Mar 29, 2018
maclatunji:



A man is a man, a woman is a woman. Anyone claiming to feel like the other gender should not be paid attention to. It is the beginning of wrongdoing and mischief.

# Hold on sir. Kindly read this and let's share your view:

Islamic shari'a law, neotraditionalist Muslim scholars and transgender sex-reassignment surgery: A case study of Ayatollah Khomeini's and Sheikh al-Tantawi's fatwas

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15532739.2016.1250239

This is a case study that happened in Iran and Egypt. Its a brilliant read.
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by tintingz(m): 2:27pm On Mar 29, 2018
maclatunji:


We shall pray for your guidance in spite of yourself.
You don't need to do that, Allah knows all, he knows my end, he planned everything. grin
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by maclatunji: 4:52pm On Mar 29, 2018
tintingz:
You don't need to do that, Allah knows all, he knows my end, he planned everything. grin

Divine will does not negate the validity of prayer. Exactly because you don't know your outcome is more than enough reason for you to pray.

Sooner or later, the thrill of trying to show you are different will wear off. The critical question for you is when?
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by tintingz(m): 6:14pm On Mar 29, 2018
maclatunji:


Divine will does not negate the validity of prayer. Exactly because you don't know your outcome is more than enough reason for you to pray.

Sooner or later, the thrill of trying to show you are different will wear off. The critical question for you is when?
Allah knows everything, he already knows my end, he's the ultimate planner, he knows if I'm going to hell or paradise, what then is use of prayer, why are you wasting your time praying daily or is Allah ignorant of the future?

As for the last paragraph, isn't that question also apply to you? When are you going to realize you have been in the false religion?
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by maclatunji: 9:10am On Mar 30, 2018
tintingz:
Allah knows everything, he already knows my end, he's the ultimate planner, he knows if I'm going to hell or paradise, what then is use of prayer, why are you wasting your time praying daily or is Allah ignorant of the future?

As for the last paragraph, isn't that question also apply to you? When are you going to realize you have been in the false religion?

Which one is now 'real' religion?
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by tintingz(m): 10:12am On Mar 30, 2018
maclatunji:


Which one is now 'real' religion?
Other religions claiming to be "real".
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by maclatunji: 2:51pm On Mar 30, 2018
tintingz:
Other religions claiming to be "real".

You are confused then. I asked you a clear question, you are going in circles. Once the thrill of "being different" is removed, people that go through the path you are treading don't have much to go by.

Young man, stop deluding yourself.
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by tintingz(m): 4:06pm On Mar 30, 2018
maclatunji:


You are confused then. I asked you a clear question, you are going in circles. Once the thrill of "being different" is removed, people that go through the path you are treading don't have much to go by.

Young man, stop deluding yourself.
Lol, do I look like someone who subscribe to any religion?

I'm letting you know that, there are other religion claiming to be the real one and yours to be false just like how you veiw other religions, so when are you going to realize yours is the false one?

People have died as non-religious, athiests, agnostics for centuries, I don't understand your fallacy in your first paragraph?
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by maclatunji: 4:16pm On Mar 30, 2018
tintingz:
Lol, do I look like someone who subscribe to any religion?

I'm letting you know that, there are other religion claiming to be the real one and yours to be false just like how you veiw other religions, so when are you going to realize yours is the false one?

People have died as non-religious, athiests, agnostics for centuries, I don't understand your fallacy in your first paragraph?

Simple question, what exactly do you believe in?
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by AlBaqir(m): 4:44pm On Mar 30, 2018
Please dear brothers (Maclatunji and tintingz), If you can no longer discuss the main topic of the thread, kindly move to general section.

To make the discussion more direct, I have posted an article of Fatwa of Sheik Tantawi (a renowned Sunni sheik) and Imam Khomeini (a renowned Shia sheik) on the issue whereby at a specific condition, they allowed transgender surgery. Mac read it and let's here your view. I know tintingz has read it once.

Your little head-to-head is getting boring (anyway to me sha).
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by tintingz(m): 6:16pm On Mar 30, 2018
maclatunji:


Simple question, what exactly do you believe in?
I'm an atheist. undecided
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by HamzaAbdullahi8(m): 6:19pm On Mar 30, 2018
This is abomination we do not condole this in Islam we shld nt allow western trend to creep into our lifestyle.
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by tintingz(m): 6:23pm On Mar 30, 2018
AlBaqir:
Please dear brothers (Maclatunji and tintingz), If you can no longer discuss the main topic of the thread, kindly move to general section.

To make the discussion more direct, I have posted an article of Fatwa of Sheik Tantawi (a renowned Sunni sheik) and Imam Khomeini (a renowned Shia sheik) on the issue whereby at a specific condition, they allowed transgender surgery. Mac read it and let's here your view. I know tintingz has read it once.

Your little head-to-head is getting boring (anyway to me sha).
I'm that person that stick to thread topics/discussion, I just decide to have some little fun with a long time friend Mr Mac. smiley

And yes I remember the thread that discuss about transgenders.
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by tintingz(m): 6:25pm On Mar 30, 2018
HamzaAbdullahi8:
This is abomination we do not condole this in Islam we shld nt allow western trend to creep into our lifestyle.
There are lots of abominations in Islam practice.
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by HamzaAbdullahi8(m): 6:46pm On Mar 30, 2018
tintingz:
There are lots of abominations in Islam practice.
mind the way you talk about Islam here or get out.
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by maclatunji: 7:00pm On Mar 30, 2018
tintingz:
I'm an atheist. undecided

That took you 3 posts to say. It sounds mumu even to you that you struggle with it. Well, hopefully, you will stop deluding yourself and return to being a Muslim.
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by tintingz(m): 8:31pm On Mar 30, 2018
maclatunji:


That took you 3 posts to say. It sounds mumu even to you that you struggle with it. Well, hopefully, you will stop deluding yourself and return to being a Muslim.
This was my response.

Lol, do I look like someone who subscribe to any religion?
https://www.nairaland.com/4413048/when-it-permissible-sex-change-operation#66290314

I hope you will stop being religious deluded and see the falsehood and absurdity in your Religion.
Re: When Is It Permissible To Do A Sex-change Operation From Male To Female Or Vice by tintingz(m): 8:34pm On Mar 30, 2018
HamzaAbdullahi8:
mind the way you talk about Islam here or get out.
I'm in my house come and beat me.

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