Qiiiii:
Na pesin born this one too oo

omohayek:
What is this rubbish? What motivates an urge to claim a mythical middle-eastern origin other than a raging inferiority complex?

Yorubas have nothing to do with the Middle East, at least in historical times. We speak a Niger-Congo language which is closely related to other such languages, all of which are centered around the confluence of the Niger and Benue rivers, and the most closely related language to Yoruba happens to be Igala, which happens to be found east and north of the same confluence; these facts strongly indicate that Yoruba culture originated close by to the junction of the two rivers. Additionally, there are clear cultural continuities between the Nok cultural complex and later Yoruba artistic practices, again indicating that our roots in this area go back several thousand years, even before there were any established Middle-Eastern cultures for certain other people to start wanting to make bogus claims of ancestry on. Finally, all of the plentiful genetic evidence now available on Yorubas points to us being most closely related to the people we still share borders with, like the Edos and the Igalas; there is not even the slightest trace of anything that looks like "Middle Eastern" ancestry in our gene pool before the 19th century.

Let others tell themselves ridiculous lies about their supposed "Jewish" or "Arab" ancestry if they please. We have no need of such humiliating fabrications. We are who we are, indigenous West Africans with a rich, living cultural heritage that has held on even in the face of the greatest adversity imaginable, and which continues to have a magnetic effect on the peoples who neighbor us right to the present day.

LordVoldermort:
Don't mind these mad people just look at this

omohayek:

All that “Oduduwa came from Mecca” crap is just the product of a few sick minds who allowed preachers of a foreign religion to inculcate in them an inferiority complex. The city of Ile Ife already existed when Mohammed was supposedly receiving his visions, and the best linguistic evidence suggests Yoruba and Igala had become separate languages as much as 1,000 years before Islam was even founded, so Yoruba civilisation owes nothing to Mecca or anywhere else in the Middle East.

As far as Oduduwa in particular is concerned, serious modern scholarship indicates he actually existed, but the Ife he came to was already a flourishing and wealthy city (not a mere “village”) by the time Oduduwa got there, with Obatala being the ruler until Oduduwa finally managed to overthrow him sometime later. There is zero serious evidence that Oduduwa wasn’t himself a native-born Yoruba by culture, just that he didn’t come from Ife, which was not the only Yoruba city even then. What does seem true is that Oduduwa inaugurated a new kind of kingship, and that this spread through much of Yorubaland and beyond through his descendants.

omohayek:

All that “Oduduwa came from Mecca” crap is just the product of a few sick minds who allowed preachers of a foreign religion to inculcate in them an inferiority complex. The city of Ile Ife already existed when Mohammed was supposedly receiving his visions, and the best linguistic evidence suggests Yoruba and Igala had become separate languages as much as 1,000 years before Islam was even founded, so Yoruba civilisation owes nothing to Mecca or anywhere else in the Middle East.

As far as Oduduwa in particular is concerned, serious modern scholarship indicates he actually existed, but the Ife he came to was already a flourishing and wealthy city (not a mere “village”) by the time Oduduwa got there, with Obatala being the ruler until Oduduwa finally managed to overthrow him sometime later. There is zero serious evidence that Oduduwa wasn’t himself a native-born Yoruba by culture, just that he didn’t come from Ife, which was not the only Yoruba city even then. What does seem true is that Oduduwa inaugurated a new kind of kingship, and that this spread through much of Yorubaland and beyond through his descendants.

LordVoldermort:
Let's see the

Igbos are the Jews of Africa, the fulanis are the Arabs of Africa

Southeast Israel, the North Iran

Ipob Zionism, Boko haram Muhammedanism

Where do Yorubas fit in the middle east?

LordVoldermort:
Let's see the

Igbos are the Jews of Africa, the fulanis are the Arabs of Africa

Southeast Israel, the North Iran

Ipob Zionism, Boko haram Muhammedanism

Where do Yorubas fit in the middle east?

KingSango:



I don't see the reason how come historically Yorubas are placed in the MiddleEast. Don't you know that the MiddleEast is NorthEast Africa? Yes, Babylon is modern day Iraq and parts of Turkey which is also Greece. Saudi Arabia is Ancient Canaan, parts of the coast of is old Phonecian territory. Along with the Moabites who became the Moors, all these African cultures were into witchcraft, sodomy and cultism and collapsed completely as a result. Look at Egypt, its just a desolate pile of rumbles and broken stones.


All these kingdoms were sons of Ham and they were cursed with witchcraft, sodomy and cultism. At least the Igbos, who are Hebrews, managed, some of them, to escape and have been fighting devil worship oppression.

Oduduwa came from East Africa near Meroe not NorthEast Africa. Oduduwa was a Nubian. The Greek dominated all of NorthEast Africa and brought pedophilia, incest, sodomy, more witchcraft and a gigantic cult of various races.

You might want to look at the ancient map before you go wishing this and that.

Rosskii:


You have a very wrong conception of the theories linking West African peoples to the Nile Valley and the so-called Middle East in antiquity. So called because the so called 'Middle East' was actually a part of Africa, or Greater Ethiopia, to be more precise.

Scholarly works linking the Yorubas and other West African groups to the ancient Nile Valley and Levant do not try to link the current occupants of those regions with black West Africans, or claim any sort of descent from them. Informed works on the issue contend that the current residents of those regions are invaders and usurpers of hitherto black-owned lands, and that in numerous invasion wars, black populations were forced to flee southwards into inner Africa to maintain their freedom, their culture, and religions. These migrations occurred thousands of years ago. The original inhabitants of West Africa were dwarf like men or 'pygmies'. The migrant black settlers intermarried with them, and they all blended their cultures and languages into forming the various West African ethnic groups of today.

LordVoldermort:
Don't mind these mad people just look at this

RZArecta2:
the Yoruba believe Oduduwa flew down from heaven, the Binis on the other hand have a more logical explanation that Oduduwa was a banished Prince of their kingdom and didn't fall from any sky. It's a fact though that the original north-East Africans especially the Egyptians were originally black though before Arab invaders took over but Oduduwa wasn't from any Meroe neither was he from Iran, he didn't fall from any sky either. Oduduwa was most likely a Prince of the Bini kingdom which has the most likely and verifiable proof of his origins so far.

Ps, before you ethnic jingoists come attacking me, I'm an Ijaw man so fashion your insults properly make i laugh

DoTheNeedful:


If you knew this, why open this childish thread?

LordVoldermort:
It's called sarcasm, something I think you never understood...Child

RZArecta2:
the Yoruba believe Oduduwa flew down from heaven, the Binis on the other hand have a more logical explanation that Oduduwa was a banished Prince of their kingdom and didn't fall from any sky. It's a fact though that the original north-East Africans especially the Egyptians were originally black though before Arab invaders took over but Oduduwa wasn't from any Meroe neither was he from Iran, he didn't fall from any sky either. Oduduwa was most likely a Prince of the Bini kingdom which has the most likely and verifiable proof of his origins so far.

Ps, before you ethnic jingoists come attacking me, I'm an Ijaw man so fashion your insults properly make i laugh

LordVoldermort:
Let's see the

Igbos are the Jews of Africa, the fulanis are the Arabs of Africa

Southeast Israel, the North Iran

Ipob Zionism, Boko haram Muhammedanism

Where do Yorubas fit in the middle east?

omohayek:

Stop peddling this jingoistic nonsense as if it were fact. What is all the rubbish about "the Binis on the other hand have a more logical explanation", other than you want to believe that a kingdom founded in the 14th century, well after Oduduwa's historical existence, somehow was the source of his origins? Was Oduduwa a time-traveler according to this fable which ignores well-attested historical timings? Your argument makes as much sense as saying "The Jews believe Moses was found by an Egyptian prince, but the Rwandans have a more logical explanation that he was a banished Hutu from their kingdom" - in other words, it is the product of a confused, ignorant mind laboring under a mighty inferiority complex.

The hard, well-verified truth about the current line of Obas of Benin right back into the 14th century, when the indigenous Ogiso rulers were overthrown, is that they are of Yoruba ancestry, and Yoruba was even the exclusive courtly language right up until the 20th century. No amount of myth-making born of a sense of inferiority will ever change that.

Okoyeebos:


Actually, Igbos aren't Jews of anywhere. The lies told by generations of Igbos suffering from inferiority complex were busted when a team of scientists from Israel conducted DNA tests of Igbos and stated that they had no genetic links to the Jews.

That being clear, I can boldly say Igbos didn't originate from anywhere. They evolved from monkeys and are the subject of Charles Darwin's evolution theory.

That is the only logical reason why no one has been able to trace their history and ancestry.

Okoyeebos:


Actually, Igbos aren't Jews of anywhere. The lies told by generations of Igbos suffering from inferiority complex were busted when a team of scientists from Israel conducted DNA tests of Igbos and stated that they had no genetic links to the Jews.

That being clear, I can boldly say Igbos didn't originate from anywhere. They evolved from monkeys and are the subject of Charles Darwin's evolution theory.

That is the only logical reason why no one has been able to trace their history and ancestry.

LordVoldermort:
If you don't understand posts you can ask for proper explanation jeez it won't kill you

RZArecta2:
the Yoruba believe Oduduwa flew down from heaven, the Binis on the other hand have a more logical explanation that Oduduwa was a banished Prince of their kingdom and didn't fall from any sky. It's a fact though that the original north-East Africans especially the Egyptians were originally black though before Arab invaders took over but Oduduwa wasn't from any Meroe neither was he from Iran, he didn't fall from any sky either. Oduduwa was most likely a Prince of the Bini kingdom which has the most likely and verifiable proof of his origins so far.

Ps, before you ethnic jingoists come attacking me, I'm an Ijaw man so fashion your insults properly make i laugh

macof:
shut up. Your thread is idiotic
Yoruba are one of the purest Africans

We have zero connection to the middle East