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The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Nobody: 11:28pm On Apr 17, 2018
Due to the responses I have seen regarding the comments British prime minister Theresa May at the Commonwealth meeting,I think it is important to remind us Nigerians that any person who truly loves his or her neighbour would not discriminate or stigmatize the person because of his/her sexuality and a good example is the late South African president Nelson Mandela. I know my views on homophobia might not matter to a lot of people but it is good you know that the late Nelson Mandela was against discrimination of gay people and I believe that every one of us should be,we don't gain anything by treating other people as rags judging them by our own standards and taste rather we should embrace everyone irrespective of our differences. Homosexuality is not a western thing,it is natural and by that I mean it is the way the person is,just like you find left handed people even though most people are right handed,so no one chooses to be straight or gay,decriminalizing homosexuality would not threaten the population of a country like Nigeria besides gay people can have kids through IVF and even normal through sex but that might be uncomfortable to them,there is no justifying ground for treating your fellow human like a piece of rag just because s/he happens to be sexually attracted to people of the same sex do you even wonder how this people feel when you treat them the way you do, let us try to love each other and promote peace and not discrimination,only then can our country become better and more peaceful like the western countries we are dying to go to even though same sex marriage is accommodated there,however we can choose to remain in hate and homophobia, religious,ethnic and other forms of discrimination and trust me our country would remain the way it is

p.s for the records I am HETEROSEXUAL

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Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 11:35pm On Apr 17, 2018
Wonderful !
This offensive of the gaylovers is in full swing !
Nelson Mandela was a political leader and not a philosopher or arbiter of morality.
Men fxxng men is wrong. What part of that have you convinced yourself not to understand ?
And please note: heterosexuals who support homosexuals are worse than them.

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Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by CAPSLOCKED: 11:40pm On Apr 17, 2018
IamaNigerianGuy:
Wonderful !
This offensive of the gaylovers is in full swing !
Nelson Mandela was a political leader and not a philosopher or arbiter of morality.
Men fxxng men is wrong. What part of that have you convinced yourself not to understand ?
And please note: heterosexuals who support homosexuals are worse than them.



HE'S AGAINST HOMOPHOBIA DOESN'T CORONATE HIM AS GAY KING.


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Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by amInigerian: 11:45pm On Apr 17, 2018
The term homophobia is actually a fraudulently coined term.

The term was actually fraudulently coined to colour as bad what is the natural human repulsion for that which is abominable

Homophobia means fear of same kind

Homo = same

Phobia = fear


So whereas homophobia means the fear of sameness, it is inaccurately used to describe the natural human repulsion against the anomally of a man poking himself into another man.

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Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Nobody: 12:11am On Apr 18, 2018
amInigerian:
The term homophobia is actually a fraudulently coined term.

The term was actually fraudulently coined to colour as bad what is the natural human repulsion for that which is abominable

Homophobia means fear of same kind

Homo = same

Phobia = fear


So whereas homophobia means the fear of sameness, it is inaccurately used to describe the natural human repulsion against the anomally of a man poking himself into another man.


I don't know what you may find in your dictionary but I see homophobia as the discrimination and prejudice against homosexual people,for now let's see it that way an forget about the etymology
Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Nobody: 12:21am On Apr 18, 2018
IamaNigerianGuy:
Wonderful !
This offensive of the gaylovers is in full swing !
Nelson Mandela was a political leader and not a philosopher or arbiter of morality.
Men fxxng men is wrong. What part of that have you convinced yourself not to understand ?
And please note: heterosexuals who support homosexuals are worse than them.
first of all Nelson Mandela was a humanist before any other thing and of course to your displeasure he was in SUPPORT of gay rights go and browse it.
Next what makes homosexual relationship wrong ??
you see the point is this,naturally a heterosexual person wouldn't like homosexuality and vice versa but that shouldn't lead to homophobia,in fact there is nothing wrong with you disliking homosexuality, every human being is prejudiced but then you should understand that everyone has the right to be treated equally hence you shouldn't let your prejudice cause you to hurt others. If you say people are free to act based on their natural instincts don't you think that you could be at the receiving end I. some situations,normally white folks don't like the black skin because it is different from theirs but then you don't judge an individual because of a natural feature s/he possess,if you think you are free to treat people badly because they are not like you then others can treat you badly because you are not like them,would you like that ??

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Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by amInigerian: 1:12am On Apr 18, 2018
darkchild64:


I don't know what you may find in your dictionary but I see homophobia as the discrimination and prejudice against homosexual people,for now let's see it that way an forget about the etymology

You cannot tell anyone on earth what to forget or what not to.
Why would you want us to forget it anyway?
Suddenly forget the meaning of "homo" and also the meaning of "phobia"?
If on a desktop, click and highlight this space => Especially when we didn't ask but the two words were singled out to be combined together and presented to us as a new word.
Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Nobody: 5:06am On Apr 18, 2018
amInigerian:


You cannot tell anyone on earth what to forget or what not to.
Why would you want us to forget it anyway?
Suddenly forget the meaning of "homo" and also the meaning of "phobia"?
If on a desktop, click and highlight this space => Especially when we didn't ask but the two words were singled out to be combined together and presented to us as a new word.
bro I don't get the point of your argument, this thread is not about the etymology of the word homophobia, whether it means what you think or not the most important thing us the message I am trying to pass across


as far as this thread is concerned just think of homophobia as racism only this time the victims are not people of a different skin colour but homosexuals

what is the argument there,please guy letst focus on the important stuff
Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Nobody: 5:08am On Apr 18, 2018
amInigeria just so you know if you type homophobia in google what you would see is

"dislike or prejudice against homosexual people"
Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by amInigerian: 10:11am On Apr 18, 2018
amInigerian:


You cannot tell anyone on earth what to forget or what not to.
Why would you want us to forget it anyway?
Suddenly forget the meaning of "homo" and also the meaning of "phobia"?
Especially when we didn't ask but the two words were singled out to be combined together and presented to us as a new word.

darkchild64:

bro I don't get the point of your argument, this thread is not about the etymology of the word homophobia, whether it means what you think or not the most important thing us the message I am trying to pass across


as far as this thread is concerned just think of homophobia as racism only this time the victims are not people of a different skin colour but homosexuals

what is the argument there,please guy letst focus on the important stuff

Unfortunately, the rest of the world will not narrow their view on that which you draw their attention to to a scope that suits your whims or caprices per time just because you want them to.

Where we live (on earth) any hope that the this will be the case, remains a pipe dream... permanently. smiley
Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Nobody: 10:23am On Apr 18, 2018
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OK no problem,you can now to your way,you've made your point
Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by budaatum: 6:22pm On Apr 18, 2018
darkchild64:


OK no problem,you can now to your way,you've made your point
And that's what you should have said in the beginning, though better still is to ignore them.

Personally, I sympathise with homophobic people, and I understand their fear. Homosexuality is contagious, as one person cannot be gay by oneself. The homophobics fear is that if homosexuals freely walk the street, they might infect the homophobic just by contact, and one day, after years of other gender poking they suddenly find they are bent over for same gender poking!

It is unfortunate however that their fear, that homosexuality is contagious, is groundless, but this wouldn't be the first time people fear that what others do condemns them too. Some 'believing in gods' people fear that if non-believers are allowed to dwell amongst them, their gods might burn everyone or turn everyone into salt!
Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Opinionated: 6:32pm On Apr 18, 2018
budaatum:

And that's what you should have said in the beginning, though better still is to ignore them.

Personally, I sympathise with homophobic people, and I understand their fear. Homosexuality is contagious, as one person cannot be gay by oneself. The homophobics fear is that if homosexuals freely walk the street, they might infect the homophobic just by contact, and one day, after years of other gender poking they suddenly find they are bent over for same gender poking!

It is unfortunate however that their fear, that homosexuality is contagious, is groundless, but this wouldn't be the first time people fear that what others do condemns them too. Some 'believing in gods' people fear that if non-believers are allowed to dwell amongst them, their gods might burn everyone or turn everyone into salt!

Fear ko, common sense ni. Next thing will be to sleep with animals abi?

It is about morality and raising yourself beyond animals that do practically whatever they like without careful consideration. Even animals show intelligence and ability to analyze issues.

The fact that there is a possibility to dance naked in the market place doesn't mean you should.

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Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by budaatum: 7:54pm On Apr 18, 2018
Opinionated:


Fear ko, common sense ni. Next thing will be to sleep with animals abi?

It is about morality and raising yourself beyond animals that do practically whatever they like without careful consideration. Even animals show intelligence and ability to analyze issues.

The fact that there is a possibility to dance naked in the market place doesn't mean you should.
Hey, its ma bodi naw! If me want take off mi clothe and dance in di market, se na ur bodi I de take dance?

Call me animal, or unintelligent, if you wish but a persons poker is a persons poker and if they wish to poke it in poo its really none of your poking business, in my opinion, least as long as I'm not breaking any laws, and you can't catch me!

Some people have to learn to not go overboard in their attempt to save others from going to hell!
Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by zombieTRACKER: 8:02pm On Apr 18, 2018
At this juncture
I don't think it's healthy for youths to waste their time and energy on this topic.... If two mature adults of same sex want to do watsover to themselves in the confines of their house... It is not my business.. Am not bothered..
But where I go craze be say they wan go marry like adopt pikin...like start family... It should be life imprisonment




That said
We should be talking about sending the dullard back to daura.... This should be our main target right now

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Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by zombieTRACKER: 8:09pm On Apr 18, 2018
budaatum:

Hey, its ma bodi naw! If me want take off mi clothe and dance in di market, se na ur bodi I de take dance?

Call me animal, or unintelligent, if you wish but a persons poker is a persons poker and if they wish to poke it in poo its really none of your poking business, in my opinion, least as long as I'm not breaking any laws, and you can catch me!

Some people have to learn to not go overboard in their attempt to save others from going to hell!

Couldn't have said it any better

I can't stand a sight of two males holding a child on the street and calling him or her theirs... It's not homophobic
Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Yyeske(m): 8:30pm On Apr 18, 2018
I wonder why Nigerians like disturbing themselves over trivial things while we have enough problems on our hands. What's my problem with what two consenting adults do behind closed doors, at least they are not disturbing me so what's my wahala?
I equally wonder why most countries in the world tolerant of homosexuality are rich(I said most rich countries here before some people start cursing their ancestors) and it is the poor and over religious ones that promote homophobia.

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Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Nobody: 9:12pm On Apr 18, 2018
well the reactions have been impressive, I believe Nigerian is making progress on this.

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Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by justtoodark: 10:18pm On Apr 18, 2018
darkchild64:
well the reactions have been impressive, I believe Nigerian is making progress on this.

something is wrong with you....

this is against black traditions to be gay or whatever....

go ahead....try it....

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Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by budaatum: 2:09am On Apr 19, 2018
zombieTRACKER:


Couldn't have said it any better

I can't stand a sight of two males holding a child on the street and calling him or her theirs... It's not homophobic
A spade is a spade is a spade......

It sounds homophobic to me, but to be honest, who cares what anyone thinks. If a person can ask you to keep your nose out of their bedroom surely you can tell them to keep out of the thoughts in your head!

Please tell me you don't go grab the child off them though.

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Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by budaatum: 2:13am On Apr 19, 2018
justtoodark:


something is wrong with you....

this is against black traditions to be gay or whatever....

go ahead....try it....
You see this guy? He was gay. Nigerian too. You probably never heard of him, but I bet you know of his brother.




"I make my pictures homosexual on purpose. Black men from the Third World have not previously revealed either to their own peoples or to the West a certain schocking fact: they can desire each other."
Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Alejoc(m): 2:16am On Apr 19, 2018
Sadly for same sex advocates.....some people came before us all and set almost all the rules leaving no space for evolution..... Live and let's live


Nobody should be bothered much with how someone else decide to screw
Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by blackpanda: 3:40am On Apr 19, 2018
I woke up very hungry this morning o


A hungry man is an angry man
Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by QuotaSystem: 5:53am On Apr 19, 2018
darkchild64:

first of all Nelson Mandela was a humanist before any other thing and of course to your displeasure he was in SUPPORT of gay rights go and browse it.

Next what makes homosexual relationship wrong ??
you see the point is this,naturally a heterosexual person wouldn't like homosexuality and vice versa but that shouldn't lead to homophobia,in fact there is nothing wrong with you disliking homosexuality, every human being is prejudiced but then you should understand that everyone has the right to be treated equally hence you shouldn't let your prejudice cause you to hurt others. If you say people are free to act based on their natural instincts don't you think that you could be at the receiving end I. some situations,normally white folks don't like the black skin because it is different from theirs but then you don't judge an individual because of a natural feature s/he possess,if you think you are free to treat people badly because they are not like you then others can treat you badly because you are not like them,would you like that ??


Why don't you treat paedophiles equally since it is everyone's right to be treated equally and their sexual preference is for little kids which should not be discriminated or prejudiced against?That logic is flawed bros.

P.S White folks don't 'normally hate' black skin, only white supremacists do (which is an ideology not natural occurrence). If otherwise, why are there millions of interracial couples and mixed race kids out there?

My policy regarding homosexuals is - I don't hate you but please be gay in your corner, don't expect to act like a feminine fag_got in my face and expect me to give you a high 5.

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Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Gggg102(m): 6:06am On Apr 19, 2018
IamaNigerianGuy:
Wonderful !
This offensive of the gaylovers is in full swing !
Nelson Mandela was a political leader and not a philosopher or arbiter of morality.
Men fxxng men is wrong. What part of that have you convinced yourself not to understand ?
And please note: heterosexuals who support homosexuals are worse than them.



What's your business with who someone decides to fxxk?
How does it affect you?


People fxxk prostitutes everyday do you complain? Is it not the same 'wrong'?

Why is what two adults do in their bedroom your concern?



Because I hate eating fish does that mean nobody must eat fish?

Because I don't watch BBN does that mean nobody else must watch BBN?
Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Gggg102(m): 6:11am On Apr 19, 2018
QuotaSystem:


Why don't you treat paedophiles equally since it is everyone's right to be treated equally and their sexual preference is for little kids which should not be discriminated or prejudiced against?That logic is flawed bros.

P.S White folks don't 'normally hate' black skin, only white supremacists do (which is an ideology not natural occurrence). If otherwise, why are there millions of interracial couples and mixed race kids out there?


Because paedophiles target children and children aren't adults.
Children are not seen as matured enough to make decisions on their own.

Homosexuality is between two ADULT humans who are capable of making their life decisions, and can choose to do what with their lives as long as it does not affect any other person.

Why are you concerned with their decision on sex partner when it does not affect you in anyway?

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Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by zombieTRACKER: 6:26am On Apr 19, 2018
budaatum:

A spade is a spade is a spade......

It sounds homophobic to me, but to be honest, who cares what anyone thinks. If a person can ask you to keep your nose out of their bedroom surely you can tell them to keep out of the thoughts in your head!

Please tell me you don't go grab the child off them though.

Am saying they can do whatever they want in the confines of their house and leave kids out of it
Going extra mile to raise a child is a no no for me...
You can't imagine how confused and lost this particular child would be....
The society has enough ills to deal with already


I don't need to grab the child off them because I know it's against The law.... The police will do that

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Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by QuotaSystem: 6:29am On Apr 19, 2018
Gggg102:



Because paedophiles target children and children aren't adults.
Children are not seen as matured enough to make decisions on their own.

Homosexuality is between two ADULT humans who are capable of making their life decisions, and can choose to do what with their lives as long as it does not affect any other person.

Why are you concerned with their decision on sex partner when it does not affect you in anyway?

I have already stated my position on this matter;

QuotaSystem:

My policy regarding homosexuals is - I don't hate you but please be gay in your corner, don't expect to act like a feminine fag_got in my face and expect me to give you a high 5.

I have had cause to come across gays severally especially while I was at Uni. We had an officially registered LGBT society (lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transexuals) and two of my lecturers were married gay partners (interestingly the 'wife' was a Nigerian from Bayelsa) and we were seriously warned by the university authorities that discrimination would be severely punished, because for instance, we African students totally refused to accept and identify with the 'wife' whenever he tried to attend our Africa Development Society meetings and actually walked out on him once which he reported, while he was desperately seeking acceptance with his African brothers. In another instance there was a society awards dinner and we (ADS) were to share the same table with LGBT society exco members; we didnt last 5 minutes on that table or touch the free food. I have had so many other encounters of such but those are not for this thread.

The point I'm making here is that while I have learned to accept individual differences regarding sexuality, it does not mean I will tolerate it being flaunted in my face because it remains a cultural and religious anomaly where I'm from.

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Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by zombieTRACKER: 6:30am On Apr 19, 2018
budaatum:

You see this guy? He was gay. Nigerian too. You probably never heard of him, but I bet you know of his brother.




"I make my pictures homosexual on purpose. Black men from the Third World have not previously revealed either to their own peoples or to the West a certain schocking fact: they can desire each other."

Who is the brother
Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Gggg102(m): 6:57am On Apr 19, 2018
QuotaSystem:


I have already stated my position on this matter;



I have had cause to come across gays severally especially while I was in Uni. We had an officially registered LGBT society (lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transexuals) and two of my lecturers were married gay partners (interestingly the 'wife' was a Nigerian from Bayelsa) and we were seriously warned by the university authorities that discrimination would be severely punished, because for instance, we African students totally refused to accept and identify with the 'wife' whenever he tried to attend our Africa Development Society meetings and actually walked out on him once which he reported, while he was desperately seeking acceptance with his African brothers. In another instance there was a society awards dinner and we (ADS) were to share the same table with LGBT society exco members; we didnt last 5 minutes on that table or touch the free food. I have had so many other encounters of such but those are not for this thread.

The point I'm making here is that while I have learned to accept individual differences regarding sexuality, it does not mean I will tolerate it being flaunted in my face because it remains a cultural and religious anomaly where I'm from.


so gays shouldn't be able to make public appearances because that's what you term 'flaunting'. they should hide in the shadows because you see it as wrong, as an anomaly.

what you show is that you don't think gays should be viewed the same way by society as straight people are, that's why you refuse to sit at a table with them. you don't think they should have the same rights with you.
you think of them as subhumans.

if you don't like left handed people, does that mean they should not 'flaunt' their left-handedness because it offends you?
should they hide in shadows?



also, culture is dynamic.

writing/doing things with left hand especially when it comes from a child to an adult was seen as an anomaly to our culture. you could be punished for being left-handed but now it is acceptable.

Christianity was an anomaly to the culture you came from, yet it was accepted.




human sacrifice was most likely part of the culture you came from. it was the norm but why don't you practice it anymore?

freedom of religion wasn't allowed in Christianity,Yahweh didn't even allow freedom of religion for his people, those who worshipped other gods he commanded their death. but now there is freedom of religion.

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Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by justtoodark: 7:03am On Apr 19, 2018
budaatum:

You see this guy? He was gay. Nigerian too. You probably never heard of him, but I bet you know of his brother.




"I make my pictures homosexual on purpose. Black men from the Third World have not previously revealed either to their own peoples or to the West a certain schocking fact: they can desire each other."

nonesense....a black guy said that this western gay nonesense is what will unite all blacks against whites....

in old days we fought a war against whites because of the same issue....ofcourse you have some blacks with this mental.but they were mostly raped as a child....
Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Nobody: 7:06am On Apr 19, 2018
That's because he was a full fledged practicing member of FreeMasonry. Probably 33rd degree Mason.

He probably rotting in hell as we speak. Forget worldly acclaim.

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