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| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by justtoodark: 7:09am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Gggg102:what does gay have to do with left handed people....?? we know how you people argue....just too desperate....na so you people wanted to have sex with messengers by fire by force in sodom and gomorah....we will fight another war with whites because of this matter.... |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Gggg102(m): 7:20am On Apr 19, 2018 |
justtoodark:gay people have a different sexual orientation. left handed people have a different brain orientation. they are both different from the 'normal'. lol! which war did you fight with whites before is it the one where they brought Christianity and started the slave trade? 2. who told you the 'gays' even subscribe to Christianity. will you accept if a Muslim makes it illegal to eat pork or drink alcohol because it goes against Islam? will you accept if it became compulsory for all Nigerians to say Allahu Akbar in schools and public places? no you will shout 'islamization'. you would not accept laws based on a religion you do not follow. people are even complaining about the creed on the Islam for Muslim section. if you don't accept islamization, why would you be pushing of the christianization of people who don't subscribe to Christianity? |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by justtoodark: 7:24am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Gggg102:do you think its coinsidence that whites came with their armies to conquer us....?? we did that to them too....their is nothing new under the sun....their are records that are not realy lost....whites tried to burn down all our records in what you call alexandria today.... |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by QuotaSystem: 7:59am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Gggg102:You see, why should you have a problem with me saying homosexualism shouldn't be flaunted in my face? You really think it is normal? Even southpaws try to write with their right hands until they realize its futile and they're accepted the way they are. You can never try to normalize homosexualism in the African society if that is your dream. Heck, even in the west it is simply accepted and tolerated and not normalized. If otherwise, they wouldn't have special LGBT societies and rainbow movements to protect their cause. The more you try to force homosexualism down our throats, the more we will resist it. At best it can be tolerated, but never accepted as normal. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Gggg102(m): 8:08am On Apr 19, 2018 |
QuotaSystem:southpaws tried to right with their right hand because they learnt it wasn't normal. they were forced to try to change their hands. being a southpaw was unimaginable. they were punished. even today, some Yoruba elders don't tolerate/accept southpaws. if people had not fought against discrimination of southpaws, if we had not learnt that that's the way they are, the discrimination would be very much alive today. the southpaws were not the ones that accepted themselves, the society learnt to accept them. the same with homosexuality. they should be accepted the way they are. the homosexuality is part of them. just like how being a southpaw is part of a person. even if you only tolerate them, that would mean you can't make homosexuality illegal. you can't be forced to accept something you don't accept. but you cannot deny the rights of someone who accepts it. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by QuotaSystem: 8:16am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Gggg102:Making it illegal might seem rather extreme, but I understand its in a bid to control their public displays of affection and ensure we don't start seeing Owambes for same sex marriages all over the place. I know that before they were banned, they actually had a 'church' in Lagos where they displayed their antics and that is clearly offensive. You will agree that PDA by homosexuals in our sexually conservative society have the potential to breach public peace, hence their proscription. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by QuotaSystem: 8:21am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Gggg102:Which is why they have the right to be fagggots in their privacy. Abi has anyone arrested Bobrisky yet? |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Nobody: 8:22am On Apr 19, 2018 |
QuotaSystem:paedophilia is different because it involves children who are not old enough to be involved in a sexual relationship, homosexuality involves two consenting ADULTS,there is a big difference, that being said I don't advocate for discrimination against people sexually attracted to kids(I don't mean those who have harassed children already)I think we should create a society where such people are shown love and compassion and are also made to understand why they can NEVER act on their fantasies, it is only then that we can rid our society of children facing sexual harassment p.s Let me make this emphasis,someone can be a paedophile(sexually attracted to children), without ever acting or even having the intentions to act on such urges,it is not right to discriminate such people if they identity themselves as paedophiles,but when a paedophile goes ahead to sexually harass a child,then such person must face the consequencies |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Gggg102(m): 8:28am On Apr 19, 2018 |
QuotaSystem:under the law, he is commuting a crime and is liable to prison. there should not be any law against it in the first place. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by QuotaSystem: 8:38am On Apr 19, 2018 |
darkchild64:Telling me a 17 year old girl (legally considered a child, most of whom are already sexually experienced nowadays) cannot give consent is crap which is why I don't buy your excuse about homosexualism being between two consenting adults hence acceptable. Fact is they're both societal anomalies which is why they're discriminated against. Going by your logic, why can't homos also be gay without ever acting on their urges, and instead we "create a society where they're shown love and compassion"? Are both paedophilia and homosexualism not frowned upon by our society? Why can't THEY accept that a man sticking his organ into another man is considered unnatural and disgusting by the overwhelming majority of humanity? They should lock themselves in their closets and stick whatever they like up their arseholes, its not my business. Trying to do it and be accepted in public is never gonna happen and equal to 14 years behind bars. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Gggg102(m): 8:39am On Apr 19, 2018 |
QuotaSystem:making it illegal is not even acceptable what does it concern anybody if gays show public affection? if they throw owambes, you can decide not to go. let those who accept homosexuality go. you can't force them into the shadows because you don't like it. I can't force you to stop eating fish because I don't like fish. I can't force you to dip bread inside tea because I like it. do your thing and leave me to do my thing as long as they are not affecting each other. how is their pda offensive? can I be offended by you eating fish because I hate fish? it won't breach public peace if people learnt to mind their business. does prostitution breach public peace even when it is equally as bad as homosexuality? more people could be homosexuals right now but it is not affecting you because you are not going around checking who 'a' is attracted to. keep it that way and there wouldn't be breaching. face your lane while they face theirs. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by QuotaSystem: 8:46am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Gggg102:Technically he isn't because he has not been PUBLICLY involved in any homosexual acts or attempted same sex marriage. Any lawyer that prosecutes him will do so based on extremely weak circumstantial evidence and will most likely lose the case. Bobrisky knows this. The day he does his act publicly he will be hunted down. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by QuotaSystem: 8:52am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Gggg102:Exactly, they should face their lane. But if its a public lane then sorry for them. Comparing homosexuality to publicly acceptable things like eating fish is just laughable; it should be correctly compared with publicly detestable things like incest and then I'll take you seriously. Homosexuality, just like incest, is detested by the majority of humanity so they should ACCEPT this fact and do their business in the closet. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by budaatum: 9:01am On Apr 19, 2018 |
zombieTRACKER:I guess it depends what country you're in. Studies do not agree that children of gay couples are "confused and lost" by the way. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by budaatum: 9:05am On Apr 19, 2018 |
zombieTRACKER:His name is Rotimi. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Gggg102(m): 9:35am On Apr 19, 2018 |
QuotaSystem:a public lane is big enough for everybody to pass. you can't stop them from passing. it's a public lane. everybody can do their thing on a public lane without affecting others. they can follow the public lane. it does not belong to you. something being generally detestable does not make it wrong. same way something being generally acceptable doesn't make it right. left handedness was generally detestable, was it wrong? human sacrifice was generally acceptable, was it right? slavery was generally acceptable, was it right? FGM was generally acceptable, was it right? female rights were generally detestable, were they wrong? freedom of religion was generally detestable, was it wrong? |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Gggg102(m): 9:40am On Apr 19, 2018 |
QuotaSystem:why should he be hunted down? if you don't like it then ignore it. the public lane is big enough for you not to carry another person's matter on your head. would you be monitoring him to check who he hugs or shows affection in public? what is your gain? if he is with a fellow man how does it affect your life? |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Nobody: 9:41am On Apr 19, 2018 |
QuotaSystem:I tire for this your logic Paedophiles are not attracted to people with adult features, a 17 year old girl might be considered a child by law but her hormones and environment might qualify her as an adult,nonetheless it is illegal for anyone to have sex before s/he turns 18 that is the mark. Albinism is an anomaly going by your statement,albinos should be discriminated right ? We live in the 21st century not in the iron ages,everyone should enjoy his fundamental human rights as long as by doing so s/he is not threading on another person's right,a paedophile can not have sex with a child the same way a child cannot take alcohol,the same way a child can not see certain movies the same way a child can not vote,a child doesn't have as much right as an adult,homosexuality is between ADULTS,consenting ADULTS can do what they like as long as they are not threading on the rights of others People are not going to be judged by what you like,if you are uncomfortable with something that doesn't mean that others should not enjoy it,this thread have never been about gays having sex in public you are the one saying that,I maintained that EVERYONE has the right to do what pleases s/he as long as it is within his fundamental human right,and freedom to love who one pleases(provided it is between adults) is one |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by QuotaSystem: 9:45am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Gggg102:The simple answer to your questions is that homosexualism just like incest is wrong because it goes against the laws of nature and norms of human society. If you choose to engage in it then you MUST obey the laws and regulations governing the act, which in this case you're not allowed to publicly display your acts. If you still see nothing wrong in a male choosing to mate with a male when females were created for that purpose, then ask your gay partner to explain things better. I'm tired of running around in circles. Bye. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by QuotaSystem: 9:51am On Apr 19, 2018 |
darkchild64:Why can't THEY accept that a man sticking his organ into another man is considered unnatural and disgusting by the overwhelming majority of humanity? Why must they force the majority to accept their own flaw? (Yes it is a genetic flaw to be attracted to the same sex instead of the available opposite sex) Understanding this will make it easier for them to understand why they're not allowed to display homosexualism in public. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Nobody: 9:57am On Apr 19, 2018 |
QuotaSystem:a few 100 years ago in some parts of Nigeria Twins were considered as an abomination by the majority of the public,the religion on place also supported the killing of twins so going by what you said can we say that at that time since most people considered twins "UNNATURAL" that twin killing is justified ? |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by QuotaSystem: 10:01am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Gggg102:He should be hunted down because he is a disgusting fagggot that lacks the common sense of not displaying homosexualism publicly in a country that has a 14 year penalty for the act. Even my dog at home knows the right gender to mate with. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Gggg102(m): 10:06am On Apr 19, 2018 |
QuotaSystem:homosexuality is found in nature. incest is found in nature. according to the Bible, the world was populated by incest twice. then again, are you looking to nature to decide what is right or wrong? if so rape is natural, murder is natural so they should be allowed. celibacy is unnatural, our current healthcare is unnatural, technology is unnatural cesarean section is unnatural, vaccination is unnatural so they shouldn't be allowed. again homosexuality is natural. so is incest. what is your business if someone wants to do something that isn't the norm? then that law should be changed. it is because they made the law in the first place which shouldn't have happened. no laws should be made to direct what two consenting adults do with themselves as it does not affect anybody. the law was changed in USA and UK, now what they are doing is legal. you've still not shown how two people practicing homosexuality offends you. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Gggg102(m): 10:11am On Apr 19, 2018 |
QuotaSystem:that dumb law should be discarded. there is homosexuality in the animal kingdom. your dog could be related to a homosexual dog. some dogs could be homosexuals. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by QuotaSystem: 10:12am On Apr 19, 2018 |
darkchild64:You cannot compare killing of twins due to ignorance to homosexualism which is due to a socially rejected genetic flaw. That's comparing apples with oranges. Society is not ignorant about the cause of homosexualism, but has decided to regulate/reject it, can the same be said of killing of twins in the 19th century? Try comparing with homosexualism with incest (two socially rejected acts) and you'll understand better. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Gggg102(m): 10:15am On Apr 19, 2018 |
QuotaSystem:albinism was a socially rejected genetic flaw. should society still reject albinism? incest was not rejected by society. not all societies reject incest. even the Bible allowed incest. socially acceptable changes with time. not everything that was socially acceptable is socially acceptable now, not everything that is socially acceptable now was socially acceptable then. currently, homosexuality is becoming socially acceptable. it is already accepted by the west. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by QuotaSystem: 10:16am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Gggg102:You are entitled to your opinion. If dogs had an organized society the homosexual dog would be ostracized or killed. Like I said if you are still confused about why male mating with a male is wrong then ask your gay partner. The law stands. Your opinion doesn't. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Gggg102(m): 10:19am On Apr 19, 2018 |
[quote author=QuotaSystem post=66842206][/quote]you don't have any reason why homosexuality should remain illegal except that you(and the 'majority') don't like it and you don't want others to do it because you don't like it. if you don't like it and others like it, leave them and mind your business. afterall, they are not pulling you into it. you cannot shove them into the shadows. the public lane is big enough. mind your business and let others be. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by QuotaSystem: 10:20am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Gggg102:Did you read about the boy who recently married his sister ignorantly based on his misunderstanding of the Bible and had to reverse the marriage after punishment by the community? You can only fool yourself. |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by budaatum: 10:25am On Apr 19, 2018 |
You bring me laugh. I'm calling you a bigot without intending it as an insult. As I said in a previous, no one has the right to police what thoughts another holds in their heads! Walking out on him though?! You could have been sanctioned for contravening the Equality Act 2010 in UK! QuotaSystem: |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by Gggg102(m): 10:28am On Apr 19, 2018 |
QuotaSystem:what was the business of the community? it is because the community was filled with people like you who wouldn't mind their business. if they wanted to marry themselves, leave them alone. how does their marriage affect the community? you keep talking like the community is not made of individuals. if those individuals minded their business, would there be backlash from the community? you forget there was a time people were punished by community for inter tribal marriage. were those communities right? |
| Re: The Late Nelson Mandela Was Against Homophobia by budaatum: 10:29am On Apr 19, 2018 |
QuotaSystem:I didn't know society wasn't ignorant about homosexuality! Educate me please, what has society decided causes homosexuality? |
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