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QuotaSystem:
You cannot compare killing of twins due to ignorance to homosexualism which is due to a socially rejected genetic flaw. That's comparing apples with oranges.

Society is not ignorant about the cause of homosexualism, but has decided to regulate/reject it, can the same be said of killing of twins in the 19th century?

Try comparing with homosexualism with incest (two socially rejected acts) and you'll understand better.

you see your hypocrisy, you are calling the rejection of twins ignorance, when you are equally ignorant
It was you who said that homosexuality is wrong because our society considers it so and I brought an instance of something that was once considered wrong on the same basis you consider homophobia wrong which is "CULTURE" and "RELIGION" and you say they were ignorant.
what is this cause of homosexuality that you claim the society is aware of ?
Incest is not wrong provided that both parties involved do not bare a child for obvious reasons, again I say it is not my business what two CONSENTING adults do in the confines of their bedrooms,even if they decide to go public why should I worry about that,they have their lives I have my life to live,what they are doing is not harming me in any way.

Private business between two consenting adults should be kept private - Trying to flaunt it and inherently painting a picture of normality around it in a society awash with kids and copycats is totally unacceptable.

You guys can poke each other all you want but don't just let the kids see it as a way of life and again giving them the right to raise kids made by heterosexuals is simply a caricature of their indulgence which nullifies homosexuality itself.

Your union can't make babies , you have an option to make babies with a woman you abandoned it but you want babies made by heterosexual people ?

budaatum:
You bring me laugh. I'm calling you a bigot without intending it as an insult. As I said in a previous, no one has the right to police what thoughts another holds in their heads!

Walking out on him though?! You could have been sanctioned for contravening the Equality Act 2010 in UK!

Do you have comprehension challenges? This is a valid concern not an insult. Where did I state or even insinuate the bolded?

They're free to think whatever sick thoughts are in their heads or stick anything up their arseholes in private, but public displays of homosexualism is what is rejected and banned.

As for walking out, good luck to the lawyer trying to prove the motive of our walkout.

Truckpusher:
Private business between two consenting adults should be kept private - Trying to flaunt it and inherently painting a picture of normality around it in a society awash with kids and copycats is totally unacceptable.

You guys can poke each other all you want but don't just let the kids see it as a way of life and again giving them the right to raise kids made by heterosexuals is simply a caricature of their indulgence which nullifies homosexuality itself.

Your union can't make babies , you have an option to make babies with a woman you abandoned it but you want babies made by heterosexual people ?

let's assume you are Christian living a christian dominated area that means you consider Islam as a false religion what you are saying is equivalent to telling Moslems not to practice their religion in front of you because you and the immediate society you live in consider it false and because it make children who are Christians see that there are other religions aside Christianity
And since they have the option to worship the "true" God which is Yahweh but choose to worship the "false" one Allah,they can not be accepted in the society

QuotaSystem:
Do you have comprehension challenges? This is a valid concern not an insult. Where did I state or even insinuate the bolded?

They're free to think whatever sick thoughts are in their heads or stick anything up their arseholes in private, but public displays of homosexualism is what is rejected and banned.

As for walking out, good luck to the lawyer trying to prove the motive of our walkout.

If a Christian is living in a Muslim country like Afghanistan would it be fair for the country to say that the Christian can not practice Christianity in front of Muslims because they consider it a false religion ?

darkchild64:
you see your hypocrisy, you are calling the rejection of twins ignorance, when you are equally ignorant
It was you who said that homosexuality is wrong because our society considers it so and I brought an instance of something that was once considered wrong on the same basis you consider homophobia wrong which is "CULTURE" and "RELIGION" and you say they were ignorant.
what is this cause of homosexuality that you claim the society is aware of ?
Incest is not wrong provided that both parties involved do not bare a child for obvious reasons, again I say it is not my business what two CONSENTING adults do in the confines of their bedrooms,even if they decide to go public why should I worry about that,they have their lives I have my life to live,what they are doing is not harming me in any way.

Stop lying I never said homosexuality is wrong because our society considers it so. Homosexuality is wrong because it is unnatural and it is banned because society considers it unacceptable. Stop confusing yourself.

Secondly the instance you gave was completely out of it because killing twins was due to ignorance. Can you say society is ignorant that a genetic flaw causes homosexuality? Apples and oranges.

Incest is wrong and there are laws against it around the world. Stop deceiving people, and the same reason it is rejected is the same reason homos are rejected.

P.S. What they do in public is everyone's business because we have a moral fabric to protect. Not that the fabric is stainless but further perversion must be firmly rejected.

darkchild64:
let's assume you are Christian living a christian dominated area that means you consider Islam as a false religion what you are saying is equivalent to telling Moslems not to practice their religion in front because you and the immediate society you live in consider it false and because it make children who are Christians see that there are other religions aside Christianity
And since they have the option to worship the "true" God which is Yahweh but choose to worship the "false" one Allah,they can not be accepted in the society

Likely you rightly said 'You're assuming your position' which makes your argument null and void.
Between, comparing religion and a repulsive sexual orientation is a dumb argument as the two has no correlation from societal POV.

Come back with something close.

Quotasystem already expended all the valid salient points that can be comparable in this context and a perfect example of it is incest and pedophilia. I do not have time for back and forth argument on this matter, besides the Nigerian state, a sovereign nation made it a criminal offence and whosoever finds himself here should comply and comport himself else 14 years awaits you.

darkchild64:
If a Christian is living in a Muslim country like Afghanistan would it be fair for the country to say that the Christian can not practice Christianity in front of Muslims because they consider it a false religion ?

That is baseless because Islam doesn't consider Christianity as a false religion. Jesus Christ is recognized as a prophet in the Koran.

Having said this, it is no secret that there are several societies where Christians hide to practice their religion. A simple google search will help you.

Gggg102:
you don't have any reason why homosexuality should remain illegal except that you(and the 'majority') don't like it and you don't want others to do it because you don't like it.


if you don't like it and others like it, leave them and mind your business. afterall, they are not pulling you into it. you cannot shove them into the shadows. the public lane is big enough. mind your business and let others be.

Just don't get caught when next your man is giving it to you hardcore because its straight to kirikiri.

Argue with the National Assembly.

I read your post, it made me laugh. I posted my appreciation of you making me laugh. Then I stated my position which is that "no one has the right to police what thoughts another holds in their heads!" Meaning, you have the right to your opinion. Which is the view that a person who wants to have privacy in their bedroom must hold, I think, and which is what you meant by "They're free to think whatever sick thoughts are in their heads or stick anything up their arseholes in private". I then said what the law is in some place. I never said you insulted anyone. You definitely didn't insult me!

I don't think I have comprehension problems. But I am willing to defer to your superior intellect if in your view I do have comprehension problems.

QuotaSystem:
Do you have comprehension challenges? This is a valid concern not an insult. Where did I state or even insinuate the bolded?

They're free to think whatever sick thoughts are in their heads or stick anything up their arseholes in private, but public displays of homosexualism is what is rejected and banned.

As for walking out, good luck to the lawyer trying to prove the motive of our walkout.

darkchild64:
a few 100 years ago in some parts of Nigeria Twins were considered as an abomination by the majority of the public,the religion on place also supported the killing of twins so going by what you said can we say that at that time since most people considered twins "UNNATURAL" that twin killing is justified ?

About a 50 years ago it was illegal to be gay in UK and some other countries, and up until recently they were ostracised. Now:

Scotland apologises for gay convictions

UK issues posthumous pardons for thousands of gay men

Nicola Sturgeon makes gay convictions apology

Justin Trudeau apologizes for Canada's program targeting LGBTQ civil servants

Maybe Nigeria too, will repent, one day.

QuotaSystem:
Stop lying I never said homosexuality is wrong because our society considers it so. Homosexuality is wrong because it is unnatural and it is banned because society considers it unacceptable. Stop confusing yourself.

Secondly the instance you gave was completely out of it because killing twins was due to ignorance. Can you say society is ignorant that a genetic flaw causes homosexuality? Apples and oranges.

Incest is wrong and there are laws against it around the world. Stop deceiving people, and the same reason it is rejected is the same reason homos are rejected.

P.S. What they do in public is everyone's business because we have a moral fabric to protect. Not that the fabric is stainless but further perversion must be firmly rejected.

so finally you gave us the reason you consider homosexuality wrong ; "because it is UNNATURAL"
please can you start by defining "UNNATURAL"

QuotaSystem:
That is baseless because Islam doesn't consider Christianity as a false religion. Jesus Christ is recognized as a prophet in the Koran.

Having said this, it is no secret that there are several societies where Christians hide to practice their religion. A simple google search will help you.

"Islam doesn't consider Christianity a false religion" and your reason to buttress that is the fact that they recognize Jesus as a prophet
this is like the most ridiculous statement I've seen in a while
simply answer the question I asked in the post you quoted with a YES or NO and stop confusing yourself

budaatum:
About a 50 years ago it was illegal to be gay in UK and some other countries, and up until recently they were ostracised. Now:

Scotland apologises for gay convictions

UK issues posthumous pardons for thousands of gay men

Nicola Sturgeon makes gay convictions apology

Justin Trudeau apologizes for Canada's program targeting LGBTQ civil servants

Maybe Nigeria too, will repent, one day.

Trust me when that day would come you would see Christians claiming that Christianity helped to stop homophobia just like they claim that Christianity help stop slave trade citing Samuel Ajayi Crowthers involvement maybe that time they would cite Arch Bishop Desmond Tutu and some white churches which have accepted homosexuality

Homosexuality is unnatural and an major alternation in the natural scheme of things. I am tired of people trying to market it to us all the time. God created them male and female for a reason because without reproduction,life will go into extinction.Why are these people trying to end the existence of life. Somebody said they can get children through IVF. Does IVF produce sperm or egg? They can only do this by following nature which they go against. You don't want a woman but you will get donated egg from a woman and fertilize it in a lab and plant in the womb of a woman as a surrogate to grow into a child. IVF was invented as a fertility treatment for childless couple not those who originally rejected childbearing by going into a biological impossible union. And what will they teach the children? That it is normal for two men or two women to copulate. When something that is unnatural becomes normal what happens? Like lets make madness normal too. As at today there is no biological proof of homosexuality unlike left and right handedness someone on this thread was taking about. Because white people are supporting it and promoting it,does it make it right? Very soon we will legalize intimacy with plants and animals.

Amhappy:
Homosexuality is unnatural and an major alternation in the natural scheme of things. I am tired of people trying to market it to us all the time. God created them male and female for a reason because without reproduction,life will go into extinction.Why are these people trying to end the existence of life. Somebody said they can get children through IVF. Does IVF produce sperm or egg? They can only do this by following nature which they go against. You don't want a woman but you will get donated egg from a woman and fertilize it in a lab and plant in the womb of a woman as a surrogate to grow into a child. IVF was invented as a fertility treatment for childless couple not those who originally rejected childbearing by going into a biological impossible union. And what will they teach the children? That it is normal for two men or two women to copulate. When something that is unnatural becomes normal what happens? Like lets make madness normal too. As at today there is no biological proof of homosexuality unlike left and right handedness someone on this thread was taking about. Because white people are supporting it and promoting it,does it make it right? Very soon we will legalize intimacy with plants and animals.

for you to say that there is no biological proof for homosexuality shows how primitive you are to the subject matter
Your post circulates around one concept "UNNATURAL", please can you define that term for us

darkchild64:
"Islam doesn't consider Christianity a false religion" and your reason to buttress that is the fact that they recognize Jesus as a prophet
this is like the most ridiculous statement I've seen in a while
simply answer the question I asked in the post you quoted with a YES or NO and stop confusing yourself

Quit getting emotional over faggotts...it is irrational and inconceivable to compare religious acceptance with the disgusting and repulsive genetic disorder called homosexuality.

The only basis for comparison is the similarly repulsive and sickly perverted notion of incest and bestiality.

Regardless, I'm done with this back and forth...direct your further complaints to the courts/NA.

QuotaSystem:
Quit getting emotional over faggotts...it is irrational and inconceivable to compare religious acceptance with the disgusting and repulsive genetic disorder called homosexuality.

The only basis for comparison is the similarly repulsive and sickly perverted notion of incest and bestiality.

Regardless, I'm done with this back and forth...direct your further complaints to the courts/NA.

no sir what is inconceivable and inhuman is to discriminate and treat other people badly for being who they are and engaging in something that doesn't harm you in any way

darkchild64:
Due to the responses I have seen regarding the comments British prime minister Theresa May at the Commonwealth meeting,I think it is important to remind us Nigerians that any person who truly loves his or her neighbour would not discriminate or stigmatize the person because of his/her sexuality and a good example is the late South African president Nelson Mandela. I know my views on homophobia might not matter to a lot of people but it is good you know that the late Nelson Mandela was against discrimination of gay people and I believe that every one of us should be,we don't gain anything by treating other people as rags judging them by our own standards and taste rather we should embrace everyone irrespective of our differences. Homosexuality is not a western thing,it is natural and by that I mean it is the way the person is,just like you find left handed people even though most people are right handed,so no one chooses to be straight or gay,decriminalizing homosexuality would not threaten the population of a country like Nigeria besides gay people can have kids through IVF and even normal through sex but that might be uncomfortable to them,there is no justifying ground for treating your fellow human like a piece of rag just because s/he happens to be sexually attracted to people of the same sex do you even wonder how this people feel when you treat them the way you do, let us try to love each other and promote peace and not discrimination,only then can our country become better and more peaceful like the western countries we are dying to go to even though same sex marriage is accommodated there,however we can choose to remain in hate and homophobia, religious,ethnic and other forms of discrimination and trust me our country would remain the way it is

p.s for the records I am HETEROSEXUAL

stop using Mandela to justify degeneracy

darkchild64:
for you to say that there is no biological proof for homosexuality shows how primitive you are to the subject matter
Your post circulates around one concept "UNNATURAL", please can you define that term for us

I know you are being rude so as a primitive human i will simply keep my cool. Please show your biological scientifically proof of homosexuality? Let start from there. Meanwhile unnatural simply means-Against nature

budaatum:
I guess it depends what country you're in. Studies do not agree that children of gay couples are "confused and lost" by the way.

They are confused and lost my brother

immhotep:
stop using Mandela to justify degeneracy

Nelson Mandela was against homophobia that is a fact !!

Amhappy:
I know you are being rude so as a primitive human i will simply keep my cool. Please show your biological scientifically proof of homosexuality? Let start from there. Meanwhile unnatural simply means-Against nature

So if homosexuality is not a natural and biological process like you claim how come it is found in almost all animals species ?

darkchild64:
Nelson Mandela was against homophobia that is a fact !!

that does not make homosexuality a good thing.

darkchild64:
So if homosexuality is not a natural and biological process like you claim how come it is found in almost all animals species ?

so you actually plan to imitate animal s.exual behavior

Cc lzaa onyeoga

immhotep:
so you actually plan to imitate animal s.exual behavior

Cc lzaa onyeoga

If homosexual people are treated equally like everyone else can you tell me any problem it would cause in the society ?

darkchild64:
If homosexual people are treated equally like everyone else can you tell me any problem it would cause in the society ?

homosexuality is evil and deserves no respect

immhotep:
homosexuality is evil and deserves no respect

we are trying to be objective and reasonable here sis and not sentimental
on what grounds is homosexuality evil ?

darkchild64:
So if homosexuality is not a natural and biological process like you claim how come it is found in almost all animals species ?

Thats no proof. Your justification is what we get when one keep poking to rationalize what is irrational. A pair has always been male and female since the beginning of time. All of a sudden same sex became acceptable. So tell me why a man has yet to become pregnant since the acceptance of male male relationship and the lesbian alphas yet to impregnant their partners since it's so natural. Homosexuality is clearly a deviation.

darkchild64:
we are trying to be objective and reasonable here sis and not sentimental
on what grounds is homosexuality evil ?

No! Stop elevating everyone to your level of understanding. You are being objective and reasonable. Homophobism is a product of sentimentalism!

darkchild64:
we are trying to be objective and reasonable here sis and not sentimental on what grounds is homosexuality evil ?

all religions condemn homosexuality. Nature has no need for homosexuals

Amhappy:
Thats no proof. Your justification is what we get when one keep poking to rationalize what is irrational. A pair has always been male and female since the beginning of time. All of a sudden same sex became acceptable. So tell me why a man has yet to become pregnant since the acceptance of male male relationship and the lesbian alphas yet to impregnant their partners since it's so natural. Homosexuality is clearly a deviation.

sexual pleasure and relationship is not all about reproduction