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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 3:09pm On May 07, 2018
Nihilstjnr:


God Forbid to this plan...

Well, I take Zouma for the bench sha.

I'd rather raid Stoke for Butland and Shaqiri.
Test RLC . Try for Doucoure from Watford. Even Arnautovic from Westham is an option for me.
Shaqiri/Mahrez, RLC and Van Ginkel stay.
Drinkwater goes. So too does Pedro.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 3:13pm On May 07, 2018
Ibime:


If you replace Matic with Bakayoko in 2015 and 2017, we lose. Argue with your phone.
Matic was there in 2016 and we lost to the point where 2 managers chased him out of the team.

He was there in FA Cup final last year when Sanchez ran away from him to score a tapin.

He's at Manyoo now and they haven't won a spoon and we're in the same FA Cup final together.

Our problem this season has been lack of goals mostly due to a misfiring sunken Spaniard, and to an extent Hazard too.

As soon as Giroud became established in the team, we've won 4 straight matches.

Abeg don't try and sneak Matic into it - Bag of beans is s nonentity.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 3:14pm On May 07, 2018
Unlimited22:

Shaqiri/Mahrez, RLC and Van Ginkel stay.
Drinkwater goes. So too does Pedro.

Drinkwater has hardly played but hes looked good whenever he did.

I keep him for another season
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 3:15pm On May 07, 2018
Nihilstjnr:


Drinkwater has hardly played but hes looked good whenever he did.

I keep him for another season
There's going to be a crowd. Bakayoko showed signs of life. Kante definitely stays. Ruben and Marco will make that 5 for 2 positions and that's not counting Fabregas.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 3:16pm On May 07, 2018
Nihilstjnr:


God Forbid to this plan...

Well, I take Zouma for the bench sha.

I'd rather raid Stoke for Butland and Shaqiri.
Test RLC . Try for Doucoure from Watford. Even Arnautovic from Westham is an option for me.
Ok. I haven’t really watch Shaqiri this season.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NOBODYY: 3:22pm On May 07, 2018
raumdeuter:


Obviously Salah was better than Hazard

Hazard even got a standing ovation when he was substituted...

This is the link to some selected news tabloids after the match rating Hazard performance

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-analysis-eden-hazard-outshines-mohamed-salah-to-leave-liverpool-and-tottenham-with-topfour-a3832421.html

https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/salah-vs-hazard-debate-rages-chelsea-vs-liverpool/amp/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5697157/amp/Chelsea-1-0-Liverpool-PLAYER-RATINGS-Eden-Hazard-outshines-Mo-Salah.html

https://www.sportskeeda.com/amp/football/premier-league-chelsea-1-0-liverpool-player-ratings

And this what they had to say about salahs performance

http://kwese.espn.com/football/club/liverpool/364/blog/post/3487300/mohamed-salah-suffers-at-chelsea-and-rightly-booked-for-diving-in-liverpool-loss

http://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11662/11357425/mohamed-salah-returns-to-chelsea-with-liverpool-how-it-went-wrong-for-him-at-stamford-bridge

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2018/05/the-good-the-bad-and-mohamed-salahs-form-debating-chelsea-1-0-liverpool/amp/

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/chelsea-liverpool-player-ratings-things-we-learned-hazard-salah-giroud-a8339196.html?amp

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2018/05/chelsea-1-0-liverpool-player-ratings-2/amp/

At least you are not the only one with "common sense" and at such, you should be able to provide at least one link that supports your position... If you can't, then. . .

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:24pm On May 07, 2018
popizaino:
some still prefer c.ronaldo to messi even though the later has been compared to the greatest in the game so it's normal if we still prefer our hazard.



Hazard over anybody.
Deal with it

Messi and C Ronaldo are close in performance. Salah isnt close to Hazard anywhere this season even madpeople will not argue that
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:25pm On May 07, 2018
Leave Costa, Replace Hazard with Mahrez or Zaha or Asensio and Chelsea still wins
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:30pm On May 07, 2018
hensben:
Sentiment aside, I will take Hazard hands down.

Chelsea need a right winger like Bale that can score load of goals, sell Pedro and use Willian as rotation. Hazard is just like Iniesta they are the creator or rather, architect of the team. They are too essential.

Hazard>>>>Salah any time any day.

Iniesta is a midfielder, Hazard is an attacker, A useless attacker for that matter since we never see goals nor assist just activity forming
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 3:31pm On May 07, 2018
raumdeuter:
Leave Costa, Replace Hazard with Mahrez and Chelsea still wins

I doubt this.

Mahrez is a bastard o. When he loses form e dey bloody

At least hazard still dey try

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:33pm On May 07, 2018
Nihilstjnr:
I doubt this.
Mahrez is a bastard o. When he loses form e dey bloody
At least hazard still dey try

Really? You forgot a whole season Hazard went into ghost mode? Has Mahrez done anything that bad?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:35pm On May 07, 2018
Nihilstjnr:

Matic was there in 2016 and we lost to the point where 2 managers chased him out of the team.

He was there in FA Cup final last year when Sanchez ran away from him to score a tapin.

He's at Manyoo now and they haven't won a spoon and we're in the same FA Cup final together.

Our problem this season has been lack of goals mostly due to a misfiring sunken Spaniard, and to an extent Hazard too.

As soon as Giroud became established in the team, we've won 4 straight matches.

Abeg don't try and sneak Matic into it - Bag of beans is s nonentity.

Matic record in 2nd half of 2014, 2015, 2017 and now 2018 at Man Utd is unblemished but you will keep bleating on about 2016 when every player was unfit and off-form and want to focus on Matic only.

No time for long story you wrote up there that left out Bakayokos name. Are you ashamed?

Once again:

Replace Matic with Bakayoko in 2015 and 2017 and we lose those titles. .

Answer yes or no, and quit long story

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:36pm On May 07, 2018
popizaino:
is bayern not a big team again cos last time hazard played against them he useless your entire team.

Garba Lawal can also score against Spain na. When will Hazard do anything meaningful in CL knockouts
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 3:37pm On May 07, 2018
raumdeuter:


Iniesta is a midfielder, Hazard is an attacker, A useless attacker for that matter since we never see goals nor assist just activity forming
Benzema is a striker. And so?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:37pm On May 07, 2018
Ibime:

Replace Matic with Bakayoko in 2015 and 2017 and we lose those titles. .

Answer yes or no, and quit long story

No I disagree. 2015 Yes, 2017 NO
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:38pm On May 07, 2018
hensben:
Benzema is a striker. And so?

What i the correlation with Benzema here? Benzema does what is best for his club to win, Right now he has taken his club to the 3rd CL final in a row
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 3:43pm On May 07, 2018
Ibime:


Matic record in 2nd half of 2014, 2015, 2017 and now 2018 at Man Utd is unblemished but you will keep bleating on about 2016 when every player was unfit and off-form and want to focus on Matic only.

No time for long story you wrote up there that left out Bakayokos name. Are you ashamed?

Once again:

Replace Matic with Bakayoko in 2015 and 2017 and we lose those titles. .

Answer yes or no, and quit long story

The answer is a big fat no.

Matic has never been integral to anyrhing.

Zouma played in midfield in 2015 and was relegated this weekend gone so that means nothing.

Costa was the main man in 2015 and 2017. Matic was a nobody.

That's why only last week DDG was voted their POTY yet again. Matic is so useless defensively and his goalkeeper has been exposed to the point where he has to be jumping around like Spiderman making wonder saves.

Let me remind you that Manyoo lost to all 3 promoted clubs this season, as well as the Westbroms of this world.

If not for DDG Manyoo would be 6th. Facts.

Offensively, Bakayoko still has more goals and assists than the bag of beans...and he's been injured for half the season.

Abeg don't try and sneak your groceries into a discussion about footballers.

cheers

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:43pm On May 07, 2018
raumdeuter:


No I disagree. 2015 Yes, 2017 NO

Both No.

Someone who cannot trap ball can never anchor the 2 man midfield of 2017.

Mikel is the one who could have anchored 2017 title win but not 2015.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 3:45pm On May 07, 2018
raumdeuter:


What i the correlation with Benzema here? Benzema does what is best for his club to win, Right now he has taken his club to the 3rd CL final in a row
Sorry, he has done what??
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:47pm On May 07, 2018
Unlimited22:

Sorry, he has done what??

Last year semi final, Benzema play took Madrid to the final same with this year he has taken his team to the final
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:52pm On May 07, 2018
Ibime:
Both No.
Someone who cannot trap ball can never anchor the 2 man midfield of 2017.
Mikel is the one who could have anchored 2017 title win but not 2015.

2015 Bakayoko cannot play as the lone DM and I agree Chelsea cannot win

Last year replace Matic with Bakayoko Chelsea will win. Kante is the main guy in midfield and Put Costa in front Chelsea wins all day

Hazard and Matic are the most dispensable players in the team
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:52pm On May 07, 2018
Nihilstjnr:

Offensively, Bakayoko still has more goals and assists than the bag of beans...and he's been injured for half the season.

Abeg don't try and sneak your groceries into a discussion about footballers.

In which team? Man Utd or Chelsea?

In which position? DM or the AM they give Bakayoko few minutes in cos he utterly failed as a DM.

Bakayoko should try getting in the team first before talking about Matic.

To paraphrase you, your stubborness will not let you keep the L in your coffin. You keep throwing it out.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:54pm On May 07, 2018
NOBODYY:
Hazard even got a standing ovation when he was substituted...
This is the link to some selected news tabloids after the match rating Hazard performance
At least you are not the only one with "common sense" and at such, you should be able to provide at least one link that supports your position... If you can't, then. . .

All Hazard did was form activity like he does everyday, Run dribble delays pass, dribble himself, turn around re-dribble the already dribbled people
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:58pm On May 07, 2018
raumdeuter:


2015 Bakayoko cannot play as the lone DM and I agree Chelsea cannot win

Last year replace Matic with Bakayoko Chelsea will win. Kante is the main guy in midfield and Put Costa in front Chelsea wins all day

Hazard and Matic are the most dispensable players in the team

2017 was built on 2 midfielders only both having to be comfortable on the ball with both having to go to the ball. Matic was the one who went to the ball in tight areas with players around him while Ngolo played more of the runner role. Hence I said Mikel could have won that.

Probably any 6/10 midfielder would still win that title but on the proviso that they can trap a ball in a tight midfield. Amateur footballer could have never played in that system and would not even enter the pitch. The positions Matic shows for the ball and receives it, amateur footballer will lose it 5 times out of 10.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 4:01pm On May 07, 2018
Ibime:


In which team? Man Utd or Chelsea?

In which position? DM or the AM they give Bakayoko few minutes in cos he utterly failed as a DM.

Bakayoko should try getting in the team first before talking about Matic.

To paraphrase you, your stubborness will not let you keep the L in your coffin. You keep throwing it out.


Where else have you heard of a Goalkeeper being player of the year?

Not Goalkeeper of the year o...but player of the Year

It tells you all there is to be said about Matic's importance to a team with title winning ambitions...

You can't tell me a 40m DM is integral to a title chances when his Goalie is the best player in the team.

Matic still hasn't won a spoon and he is in the same FA Cup final as Bakayoko.

Meanwhile Conte has now made 2 consecutive FA Cup finals - Whether Matic dey or e no dey, we still dey move.

When they asked Conte why we were struggling to retain the title, he gave the reporter Morata's address in the sunken place immediately

We are not clinical. In the last period we can kill the game, but the game was still in the balance,’ said Conte.

‘If your best scorer has only 12 goals, it is difficult to fight for something important


I don't like sharing Ls on Monday bro.

Go and sin no more.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NOBODYY: 4:11pm On May 07, 2018
raumdeuter:


All Hazard did was form activity like he does everyday, Run dribble delays pass, dribble himself, turn around re-dribble the already dribbled people
Amala turning tactics
Wetin I ask you wetin you dey talk...

If another person does this same thing, you'll say he beasted the match... But if Hazard does it, it's forming activity

You said salah was better than Hazard in the previous match


Provide a link that supports this your position or maintain your lane

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NOBODYY: 4:12pm On May 07, 2018
raumdeuter:


All Hazard did was form activity like he does everyday, Run dribble delays pass, dribble himself, turn around re-dribble the already dribbled people
Amala turning tactics
Wetin I ask you wetin you dey talk...

You said salah was better than Hazard in the previous match


Provide a link that supports this your position or maintain your lane

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by neezar: 4:23pm On May 07, 2018
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:29pm On May 07, 2018
NOBODYY:
Amala turning tactics
Wetin I ask you wetin you dey talk...
If another person does this same thing, you'll say he beasted the match... But if Hazard does it, it's forming activity
You said salah was better than Hazard in the previous match
Provide a link that supports this your position or maintain your lane

Both Hazard and Salah were useless in the match, Salah was stopped by the impressive Rudiger, Hazard was stopped by his own foolishness
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NOBODYY: 4:32pm On May 07, 2018
raumdeuter:


Both Hazard and Salah were useless in the match, Salah was stopped by the impressive Rudiger, Hazard was stopped by his own foolishness

Loll
At least we're finally getting there..
From "Obviously,salah was better" to both of them were useless...

Your goal post changing technique is elite
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:32pm On May 07, 2018
Ibime:


2017 was built on 2 midfielders only both having to be comfortable on the ball with both having to go to the ball. Matic was the one who went to the ball in tight areas with players around him while Ngolo played more of the runner role. Hence I said Mikel could have won that.

Probably any 6/10 midfielder would still win that title but on the proviso that they can trap a ball in a tight midfielder. Amateur footballer could have never played in that system and would not even enter the pitch. The positions Matic shows for the ball and receives it, amateur footballer will lose it 5 times out of 10.

2017 was built on Kante alone. The defensive work was 85% Kante, 15% Matic, That 15% could have been done by anyone including Mikel Drinkwater or Bakayoko

Last seasons league win Matic will be one of the least important to the win. Kante, Costa Azpilicueta Alonso Moses Cahill Pedro Luiz Hazard Matic Willian Fabregas in the order of their importance to the team

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