Barezzi:
Lol Georged1 has been banned again
The devil is a liar, you must complete your review baba

lolz. yeah i guess the spam bot had to do it's thing yet again, and that while i was still
speaking. humph. it's seun's call really. he can choose to continue keeping his bot settings
on paranoid mode while restricting flow of information and stagnating growth or do the
right thing by loosening things up.
ever since the attack on nl a few years ago that brought his site down a for a few days,
the bot man has been on overdrive deleting posts and banning members for the
flimsiest of reasons.

i will now continue with my review from where i stopped yesterday.
hopefully, this around, botman will allow the posts to stay - with a
few tweaks to the wordings and removal of more special characters.
sigh.

duwdu:


This is brilliant... I saw what appears to be the Quattro's colour monitor component on solardepotng for 180k, but couldn't immediately see how fundamentally important its role could be. Many thanks for the education, pranil.

And thanks to you, hancock, for rolling out those relevant questions, to begin with.

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Thank you. The Venus( operating system behind CCGX /color control can be run also on raspberry pi ( that's what got me started with Victron family)- after which next was BMV then charge controller and then Quattro as my confidence and appetite for the technology got better of me


Infact thos of you with BMV 700/702 can give it a try all you need a raspberry pi and a Ve-direct to USB cable ( few USD) the Pi will connect to VRM(Victron remote portal) Then you can monitor your SOC from anywhere in the world - set alarms etc. as the system is open source there is enough support on google groups even from victron for non standard setups

pranil:


Thank you. The Venus( operating system behind CCGX /color control can be run also on raspberry pi ( that's what got me started with Victron family)- after which next was BMV then charge controller and then Quattro as my confidence and appetite for the technology got better of me


Infact thos of you with BMV 700/702 can give it a try all you need a raspberry pi and a Ve-direct to USB cable ( few USD) the Pi will connect to VRM(Victron remote portal) Then you can monitor your SOC from anywhere in the world - set alarms etc. as the system is open source there is enough support on google groups even from victron for non standard setups

Good to know.

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solar water heater review continued. the botman banned me
again yesterday

the good
over one year free hot water without electricity so far. although there is an optional electric
heating element installed, i have never had any need to use it - yet.

the bad
a few months post commissioning, i started noticing small leakages coming from the water
heater. so i climbed the tower to investigate the source only to discover that the leakage was
coming from the inlet to the assistant tank (the small tank on top - check the picture). i
called my plumber and after deliberating on possible solutions, we decided to apply silicon to the
leaking connection. that seemed to solve the problem until the leakage re-appeared a few days
later but this time it was from the right end cover. on seeing this, i was perplexed and decided
to escalate this to the supplier - protek power and energy ltd.

Hello guys,

I think I’m getting paranoid right now.. I have a 1500w system

12 250w mono installed 2*2 on a 48v inverter system with 4 200a 12v Sukham batteries.
60a epever e tracer

Right now the sun is shinning but total wattage produce is 330-375W, while charging with 7a

First picture shows the charge state as "Floating".
Load the inverter up let it drop out of float to bulk mode, you'll see the current/power climb.

Your system is behaving as its programmed to, nothing to worry about.

sensisosu:
Hello guys,

I think I’m getting paranoid right now.. I have a 1500w system

12 250w mono installed 2*2 on a 48v inverter system with 4 200a 12v Sukham batteries.
60a epever e tracer

Right now the sun is shinning but total wattage produce is 330-375W, while charging with 7a

On top of what Oga Barezzi has said - are you connected to the grid? If you have had power from PHCN or Gen overnight or all through the day today, then it is plausible that you will not see the full power of your PV panels deployed.

Regardless, I am concerned that your total harvest for the day is Zero KwH - did you take your pics early AM or this afternoon? All those trickling ~7 amps going out of your CC over the course of the day should have added up to something higher than Zero KwH except you have another charging source (e.g. inverter) at a higher voltage point, even then all the amps your CC generated through the day should add up to more than Zero KwH.

Please do what Oga Barezzi said, during full sun and clear skies tomorrow if you are in float and getting small yield just switch on all the equipment you possibly can - if your CC increases the current output then all is probably well. You may also want to put your changeover in neutral e.t.c to avoid grid charging masking your results - your inverter would always isolate your batteries from the equipment loads while charging from the mains - i.e whenever mains (PHCN or Gen) is available, the equipment loads would be fed directly from the mains supply with zero drain on the batteries.

sensisosu:
Hello guys,

I think I’m getting paranoid right now.. I have a 1500w system

12 250w mono installed 2*2 on a 48v inverter system with 4 200a 12v Sukham batteries.
60a epever e tracer

Right now the sun is shinning but total wattage produce is 330-375W, while charging with 7a

Please, can 2 x 200ah carry a deep freezer TV and lights?

Assuming that you have an inverter rated for the load, it would carry it without issues but how many hours do you want to run the freezer and other stuff for? This would affect your battery life.

If I gave the freezer 200watts running and TV and other loads and inverter self consumption 150watts for a total of 350watts battery drain, you are looking at a ~C14 discharge rate for a battery most likely rated C20. So yes it would work but your battery life may suffer.

Aim to run your 350watts load no more than 6 to 8 hours per day and you should get by with no trouble

Disco01:
Please, can 2 x 200ah carry a deep freezer TV and lights?

NiyiOmoIyunade:
Assuming that you have an inverter rated for the load, it would carry it without issues but how many hours do you want to run the freezer and other stuff for? This would affect your battery life.

If I gave the freezer 200watts running and TV and other loads and inverter self consumption 150watts for a total of 350watts battery drain, you are looking at a ~C14 discharge rate for a battery most likely rated C20. So yes it would work but your battery life may suffer.

Aim to run your 350watts load no more than 6 to 8 hours per day and you should get by with no trouble

Thanks very much but can 2 x 250 w panel run it independently?

Again, please how much should the set up cost. (minimum o)

Hello House,

Please can anybody advise me or have an experience with this. Can I use the Victron battery ballancer to combine a 220AH US battery with a 200Ah trojan in series? I don't know if anybody has tried it. I want to know if the balancer can help to combine batteries of different makes, but both types of batteries are flooded lead acid. I needed to try this because one of the US battery is bad and I cannot source a replacement for that type/make.

Hello, please can I use the 24v battery equalizer shown below for my two 12v, 200ah Gel quanta batteries.

sharks776:
Hello, please can I use the 24v battery equalizer shown below for my two 12v, 200ah Gel quanta batteries.

Are your batteries connected in series or parallel?

pranil:


Thank you. The Venus( operating system behind CCGX /color control can be run also on raspberry pi ( that's what got me started with Victron family)- after which next was BMV then charge controller and then Quattro as my confidence and appetite for the technology got better of me


Infact thos of you with BMV 700/702 can give it a try all you need a raspberry pi and a Ve-direct to USB cable ( few USD) the Pi will connect to VRM(Victron remote portal) Then you can monitor your SOC from anywhere in the world - set alarms etc. as the system is open source there is enough support on google groups even from victron for non standard setups

You took the world right out of my mouth. The above is why am a fan of Victron, when it comes to software integration they are miles ahead of the competition. The cherry on top is the openness of the company to allow community and 3rd party participation. The communication protocol for the VE-direct devices (MPPT charger, Battery monitor and inverters) are open and in plain text for monitoring and Hex for sending commands, The specification for the cable itself is opensource and there is a white paper on how you can DIY the VE connect USB cable should you want to... As started Venus the software at the heart of the amazing CCGX is completely open source and has been ported to the raspberry pi with support for RBp touch screen LCDs!!!

My next project is to have a monitoring system using the open api of Victron. I intend the DIY the V.E Direct cable at least two (I have one O.G V.E Direct cable already) and also install the Venus OS image on a raspberry pi with a 4.3 resistive touch screen from waveshare (Same touch screen drive that comes builtin with Venus).. In the end the goal is to have a functioning CCGX device which is also capable of logging to a custom instance of emoncms as well as connect to the Victron Remote Monitoring service. I have already ordered for the parts and tools needed to accomplish this goal. I will be updating this page.

sharks776:
Hello, please can I use the 24v battery equalizer shown below for my two 12v, 200ah Gel quanta batteries.

Yes , if batteries are connected in series ! Cheer's

mrsdaniel:


Is this precious forum turning to a rant group pls?If I may ask ,if this forum is for personal opinion and knowledge sharing, why cant few people drop experiences and leave in peace instead personal attacks which is uncalled for. Why should unnecessary threats be issued on a knowledgeable forum like this. From a feminine view although I stand to be corrected,I saw nothing wrong in what the op you threatened for notin posted on a said brand as he has no particular interest neither was he marketing anything as claimed by you and you do not feed him a bit.I might be new on the forum but i came across Mr Richmond posting pics of an inverter which got burnt then and we all learnt.. You brag as a man about pulling a fellow man with dignity down On same open forum he has been known for long.He only quoted Mr Eartrealm as extrapolated in picture below because they both have used epsolar mppt if you duely follow the forum. You would have been diplomatic in your own comment if you had anything to type or remain mute for sanity sake,I do not know you but be wise pls

Good morning Ma, sorry i have been offline! My heartfelt regards !

Abif:



I appreciate your response. I have actually contacted Solar depot but the are out of stock.

Let me ask a question. Can I use the Victron battery ballancer to combine the US battery with a trojan? I don't know if anybody has tried it. I want to know if the balancer can help to combine batteries of different makes, but both types of batteries are flooded lead acid.

Hello, sorry for the late response . kindly study the data sheet of both specs before hooking up the batteries .

NiyiOmoIyunade:
On top of what Oga Barezzi has said - are you connected to the grid? If you have had power from PHCN or Gen overnight or all through the day today, then it is plausible that you will not see the full power of your PV panels deployed.

Regardless, I am concerned that your total harvest for the day is Zero KwH - did you take your pics early AM or this afternoon? All those trickling ~7 amps going out of your CC over the course of the day should have added up to something higher than Zero KwH except you have another charging source (e.g. inverter) at a higher voltage point, even then all the amps your CC generated through the day should add up to more than Zero KwH.

Please do what Oga Barezzi said, during full sun and clear skies tomorrow if you are in float and getting small yield just switch on all the equipment you possibly can - if your CC increases the current output then all is probably well. You may also want to put your changeover in neutral e.t.c to avoid grid charging masking your results - your inverter would always isolate your batteries from the equipment loads while charging from the mains - i.e whenever mains (PHCN or Gen) is available, the equipment loads would be fed directly from the mains supply with zero drain on the batteries.

I took the pic at 2pm, I hope the sun comes out today and power everything and hopefully I see a change

Hello fellow forumites,
I visited a site yesterday under emergency to inspect a 1.5va luminous ion inverter and duo luminous batteries set up . Whilst on site , I observed the batteries were already swollen & condemned. I was already of the opinion that the inverter malfunctioned and over charged its batteries. I took the inverter system home, under proper test & observation , I noticed the said system charges real good and floats after full charged. What would have spoilt the batteries

Cheny:


Are your batteries connected in series or parallel?

Series of course.

kiekie1:
Hello fellow forumites,
I visited a site yesterday under emergency to inspect a 1.5va luminous ion inverter and duo luminous batteries set up . Whilst on site , I observed the batteries were already swollen & condemned. I was already of the opinion that the inverter malfunctioned and over charged its batteries. I took the inverter system home, under proper test & observation , I noticed the said system charges real good and floats after full charged. What would have spoilt the batteries

similar thing happened to 1 of my batts in a 24v luminous 1.5kva setup back in the years, my theory is that the voltage charge setpoints of the inverter may nott be corresponding to the setpoints f the batt, or maybe bulk/absorb/float stage is too long. those are dumb inverters..best used in an offgrid system, where solar is the primary charging source

earthrealm:


similar thing happened to 1 of my batts in a 24v luminous 1.5kva setup back in the years, my theory is that the voltage charge setpoints of the inverter may nott be corresponding to the setpoints f the batt, or maybe bulk/absorb/float stage is too long. those are dumb inverters..best used in an offgrid system, where solar is the primary charging source

Duely noted sir . The batteries wer reading 10 & 13v respectively! It all started with hotness , hissing sound and swelling alas. Batteries should be about 2 yrs old . Inverter charges at 28.4v, 26.8v 15a under my test result !

kiekie1:
Hello fellow forumites,
I visited a site yesterday under emergency to inspect a 1.5va luminous ion inverter and duo luminous batteries set up . Whilst on site , I observed the batteries were already swollen & condemned. I was already of the opinion that the inverter malfunctioned and over charged its batteries. I took the inverter system home, under proper test & observation , I noticed the said system charges real good and floats after full charged. What would have spoilt the batteries

Wow. It's almost as if the batteries exploded. The way my car battery looked when the alternator failed and started outputting 17V - 21V instead of 14.3V; Did you smell Hydrogen sulphide (rotten eggs) around these batteries?

kiekie1:


Duely noted sir . The batteries wer reading 10 & 13v respectively! It all started with hotness , hissing sound and swelling alas. Batteries should be about 2 yrs old . Inverter charges at 28.4v, 26.8v 15a under my test result !

How long does it stay in bulk charge? These pics are definitely the result of overcharging.

kiekie1:
Hello fellow forumites,
I visited a site yesterday under emergency to inspect a 1.5va luminous ion inverter and duo luminous batteries set up . Whilst on site , I observed the batteries were already swollen & condemned. I was already of the opinion that the inverter malfunctioned and over charged its batteries. I took the inverter system home, under proper test & observation , I noticed the said system charges real good and floats after full charged. What would have spoilt the batteries

Possibly internal short circuit resulting from too high voltage, or too high current.

sharks776:


Series of course.

Then,you are good to go

sinistrian:

Wow. It's almost as if the batteries exploded. The way my car battery looked when the alternator failed and started outputting 17V - 21V instead of 14.3V; Did you smell Hydrogen sulphide (rotten eggs) around these batteries?

Yes I smelt normal acidlike odour as the cells are visible after dividing the batteries gummed together.. I am still monitoring the inverter system itself to see its reaction on smaller 7a CSB batteries to avoid stories that touch

sinistrian:

How long does it stay in bulk charge? These pics are definitely the result of overcharging.

It dosnt stay upto an hour before it drops to float and fans goes on sleep mode whilst the lcd indicates full charge . Thanks