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Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by N0favors: 9:26pm On Jun 18, 2018
ambrosze:
For purposes of sharing knowledge, A passport (diplomatic or not) does not directly qualify you to travel to a new country. For a visit, you need a Visa which must be stamped on the passport and as we know each country has varying conditions to be met before Visa are issued.

He might be right that he has been denied Visa to the US but i expect that he still has his diplomatic passport.
This is it
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by bobosydney: 9:32pm On Jun 18, 2018
America will still arrest you if commit crime or wanted and don't care if you have diplomatic passport. They locked up the Indian diplomat for few days in prison and New Zealand arrested Malaysia diplomat for rape.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by Nelchuksmandela(m): 9:35pm On Jun 18, 2018
CaptJeffry:
Atiku said they denied him US visa? grin
I'm not surprise.......has he forgotten d U.S gov banned him when he was sending loot to his wife in U.S......mtchewww
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by Nobody: 9:35pm On Jun 18, 2018
N0favors:
Well, I was wrong. They said he didn't have visa problem but medical finance
Okay
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by bobosydney: 9:36pm On Jun 18, 2018
Diplomatic passport don't give you free access to crime and the best way to get immunity and respect is not to commit a crime.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by Ugosample(m): 9:36pm On Jun 18, 2018
DonPiiko:
Yes there do, but sometimes countries passport are looked down upon. Nigeria happens to fall into such a category, Atiku is a fugitive as far as the United States is concerned, once he sets foots there he will be arrested, if a serving congress man of a developed country can be jailed, what's the big deal in jailing a former vice president of a developing country, who perpetuated corrupt acts.
You cannot arrest one with diplomatic passport

It's a travesty
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by linearity: 9:38pm On Jun 18, 2018
Having a diplomatic passport does not guarantee entry or stay in a foreign country.

It simply means, you have been cleared to travel and have certain immunity against prosecution by the host country. The host country can deport you or can ban you from entry their country....and off course your home country can revoke your diplomatic passport.

So, even if Atiku have a diplomatic passport, the US can still ban him from entering their country.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by ednut1(m): 9:40pm On Jun 18, 2018
Atiku pls go na. Ur house in maryland needs u
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by MissRaine69(f):
Clarification on a few points
Holders of diplomatic, official and service passports from visa-required countries do need a visa to visit countries like Canada or the USA . Nigeria is a visa-required country .However, they may be exempt from paying the processing fee if they are travelling on official business. What official bussines was he going to do in the USA? You don’t just get a visa because you have a diplomatic passport.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by linearity: 9:50pm On Jun 18, 2018
Ugosample:
You cannot arrest one with diplomatic passport

It's a travesty
You can be arrested temporarily by the directive of the State department in the US if you commit a crime of magnitude, while they negotiate with your home country to waive your immunity. Arresting and detaining someone is not the same as prosecuting them...A diplomatic passport only gives you immunity against prosecution and not against arrest.

If your home country refuses, they can kick you out of the country and ban you from entering again, even when you still hold your diplomatic passport.

The host countries still have to maintain the integrity of their laws and an orderly society and not have someone flagrantly disobey the law without recourse, even if they are holding a diplomatic passport.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by Lucasbalo(m): 9:56pm On Jun 18, 2018
adisabarber:
Diplomatic passport does not cover medical costs grin
Gbam.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by Malawian(m): 10:16pm On Jun 18, 2018
You guys don't seem to know what diplomatic passport is. If Atiku actually has one, he can go to America anytime he wants and no one will touch him. Highest they can do is ask him to leave their country.

But then again, his Diplomatic status could be "revoked" by the FG while he is in America and like they say, " as the yawa gas, kasala burst join".
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by Alva2018: 10:21pm On Jun 18, 2018
cool shocked cool
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by peak115: 10:23pm On Jun 18, 2018
Praesident Muhammadu Buhari was banned from entering the United States because Americans had reservations about his religious views, former Vice President Atiku Abubakar said Friday.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by meobizy(m): 10:23pm On Jun 18, 2018
I highly doubt they do. Atiku is hustling to become president because it will guarantee him free entry into the US and automatic protection from their law enforcement agencies.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by GavelSlam: 10:28pm On Jun 18, 2018
peak115:
Praesident Muhammadu Buhari was banned from entering the United States because Americans had reservations about his religious views, former Vice President Atiku Abubakar said Friday.
That's what the liar Atiku said but there's no such evidence.

After all, many of you claimed his wife was a fraudster that was also running away from the US.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by CilicMarin(op): 10:28pm On Jun 18, 2018
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peak115:
Praesident Muhammadu Buhari was banned from entering the United States because Americans had reservations about his religious views, former Vice President Atiku Abubakar said Friday.
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You and atiku should shut up! Bloody liars.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by peak115: 10:29pm On Jun 18, 2018
Atiku one time defended himself by saying that America embassy equally at a time refuse to grant president Buhari visa to come to USA. If that is true it then means, he might be right that he was denied visa
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by Nobody: 10:32pm On Jun 18, 2018
Find out why Omar Al Bashir of Sudan doesn't travel, if he does, he already gets the commitment of his host country not to arrest him. African diplomatic passport is just a fancy booklet, nothing more.
Ugosample:
You cannot arrest one with diplomatic passport

It's a travesty
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by LaudableXX: 10:32pm On Jun 18, 2018
DonPiiko:
Yes there do, but sometimes countries passport are looked down upon. Nigeria happens to fall into such a category, Atiku is a fugitive as far as the United States is concerned, once he sets foots there he will be arrested, if a serving congress man of a developed country can be jailed, what's the big deal in jailing a former vice president of a developing country, who perpetuated corrupt acts.
As long as he is holding a diplomatic passport, he cannot be arrested. Unless the country that issued that diplomatic passport withdraws it, and allows the arrest to take place, by washing their hands off him. undecided
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by Nobody: 10:33pm On Jun 18, 2018
LaudableXX
DonPiiko:
Find out why Omar Al Bashir of Sudan doesn't travel, if he does, he already gets the commitment of his host country not to arrest him. African diplomatic passport is just a fancy booklet, nothing more.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by peak115: 10:36pm On Jun 18, 2018
CilicMarin:
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You and atiku should shut up! Bloody liars.
I am not here to defend Atiku neither do I support him but I just quoted what he said. You can google it.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by LaudableXX: 10:41pm On Jun 18, 2018
bobosydney:
America will still arrest you if commit crime or wanted and don't care if you have diplomatic passport. They locked up the Indian diplomat for few days in prison and New Zealand arrested Malaysia diplomat for rape.
Before such diplomats could have been arrested, their countries must have withdrawn their diplomatic passports and/or revoked their diplomatic status. Please read Article 31 which governs diplomats under the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.

Article 31 : | 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations
1. A diplomatic agent shall enjoy immunity from the criminal jurisdiction of the receiving State.
He shall also enjoy immunity from its civil and administrative jurisdiction, except in the case of:
(a) A real action relating to private immovable property situated in the territory of the receiving State, unless he holds it on behalf of the sending State for the purposes of the mission;
(b) An action relating to succession in which the diplomatic agent is involved as executor, administrator, heir or legatee as a private person and not on behalf of the sending State;
(c) An action relating to any professional or commercial activity exercised by the diplomatic agent in the receiving State outside his official functions. http://legal.un.org/ilc/texts/instruments/english/conventions/9_1_1961.pdf
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by LaudableXX: 10:44pm On Jun 18, 2018
DonPiiko:
LaudableXX
Go back and read my last post slowly, with an open mind. The answers are in there. Article 31 of the United Nations Convention on Diplomatic Relations, is explicit. If Bashir is arrested, his diplomatic passport/status would first have to be cancelled or revoked.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by LaudableXX: 10:45pm On Jun 18, 2018
linearity:
You can be arrested temporarily by the directive of the State department in the US if you commit a crime of magnitude, while they negotiate with your home country to waive your immunity. Arresting and detaining someone is not the same as prosecuting them...A diplomatic passport only gives you immunity against prosecution and not against arrest.

If your home country refuses, they can kick you out of the country and ban you from entering again, even when you still hold your diplomatic passport.

The host countries still have to maintain the integrity of their laws and an orderly society and not have someone flagrantly disobey the law without recourse, even if they are holding a diplomatic passport.
Thank you! undecided But the arrest of a diplomat by American authorities is even wrong. The best they can do, is declare such a diplomat persona non grata, and give him a few hours to leave their country. He will be politely escorted into the next available plane, and sent back without any excuses, except if his home country has waived his diplomatic immunity, cancelled his diplomatic passport or revoked his diplomatic status.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by Nobody: 10:47pm On Jun 18, 2018
If rules were followed, I think General Pierre Bemba of Congo also had a diplomatic passport, but he's in the ICC facing trial, Africa has no leverage so we can be treated with disdain and nothing will happen.
LaudableXX:
Go back and read my last post slowly, with an open mind. The answers are in there. Article 31 of the United Nations Convention on Diplomatic Relations, is explicit. If Bashir is arrested, his diplomatic passport/status would first have to be cancelled or revoked.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by bobosydney: 10:50pm On Jun 18, 2018
Thanks I will read it now.
quote author=LaudableXX post=68612602]
Before such diplomats could have been arrested, their countries must have withdrawn their diplomatic passports and/or revoked their diplomatic status. Please read Article 31 which governs diplomats under the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.[/quote]
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by bart10: 10:51pm On Jun 18, 2018
Diplomatic passport doesn’t confer automatic entry status. You still require visa to enter quite a number of countries.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by LaudableXX: 10:53pm On Jun 18, 2018
DonPiiko:
If rules were followed, I think General Pierre Bemba of Congo also had a diplomatic passport, but he's in the ICC facing trial, Africa has no leverage so we can be treated with disdain and nothing will happen.
You still do NOT get it. sad I am not saying that such people cannot be arrested, but before the arrest can be made, their diplomatic status must have been revoked, or their passports cancelled. Are you sure this was not done before Bemba was arrested? shocked Do you know the high-level manoeuvres that go on behind the scene before such people can be arrested?

Sometimes, their arrest are even set up by their enemies, from within the borders of their home country. undecided They might know they cannot arrest such a person back home because he is powerful, so they wait until he travels abroad, and then notify the authorities over there. High level international politics dey happen, o! No be play.shocked
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by bobosydney: 11:04pm On Jun 18, 2018
LaudableXX:
Before such diplomats could have been arrested, their countries must have withdrawn their diplomatic passports and/or revoked their diplomatic status. Please read Article 31 which governs diplomats under the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.
Thank you and I will check and probably the same thing happened to Charles Taylor when he got arrested in Nigeria and taken to Hague for trial.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by Iyaboonibipe: 11:06pm On Jun 18, 2018
Being a diplomatic passport holder does not exclude the holder from applying for entry visa. The only difference is that he or she assumes the status of a diplomat.
Re: Do Nigerian Former Vice Presidents Have Life Diplomatic Passports? by resurgent2019: 11:08pm On Jun 18, 2018
GavelSlam:
That's what the liar Atiku said but there's no such evidence.

After all, many of you claimed his wife was a fraudster that was also running away from the US.
You must really like Buhari. You always support him.

Please, are you a Muslim?
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