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| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by Reelmii: 1:22pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
Please I need a good Samarithan to kindly read the story and break it down for me in one sentence |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by Gloriawinning: 1:24pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
I’m sure the writer is suffering from an illusion grandeur disorder and made this poo up using history and hearsay , fool. Colonial masters were British and the underboss were kings who are the only ones that authorised people to be sold and got paid in Gin, land and gold. Your nobody grandfather cannot run any parole without the local kings, kings were a big part of that scheme, they were like the government back then of their communities . Only of course if he was just a wicked kidnapper operating illegally. You gotta love how some people like to use people and things of sentimental values to masturbate their egos ![]() |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by SmartyPants(m): 1:25pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
thesicilian:Of course they had a choice. Even after the slave trade was abolished in the Western world, Africans still cooperated freely with private firms to capture and sell slaves off to South America. That was a choice. And of course slavery existed before the coming of the white man. That was also a choice. |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by theoldpretender(m): 1:28pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
GreenArrow1:Things are good for black Americans now...but up till the 1980's...it could be bad. And I mean bad . (Back in 1970's, me dad had a chance to study in US. Stories of violent racisim prevented him from taking up the offer...though he went to the UK instead). Blacks in America were subject to severe mistreatment. In 1964...a black maid was shot dead while going home from work by a gang of whites. No one has been prosecuted for the crime. The reason why things have been better for blacks. Civil right fighters...and many of them suffered. MLK was shot dead, another one was shot dead changing the tire in front of his house, some were brutally beaten up (one black civil rights worker was beaten up and as a result was ill for three years), and some even had their neighbourhoods destroyed. Blacks got the worst in schools, living areas, etc. Segregration, unjust violence, etc. Things are better (they even elected a black President...and lots of black leaders)...but behind that is a lot of suffering. As for the slave trade, a high percentage of slaves died before they reached the Americas. And MOST slaves got sent to South America and the Carribean...where life too was no better.(and even today, there is still marked discriminaiton, though things too are improiving). |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by ELKHALIFAISIS(m): 1:29pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
my great grandpa really fvckup he would have give up and allow slave sellers to capture them... I would by now be a black America or black Australian... what use am I been a Nigerian abeg make them come sell me to New Zealand this Nigeria don tire me under sai Barber terrorist |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by GreenArrow1(m): 1:34pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
theoldpretender:Yeah, things have got better and will keep improving for the black man in America no matter how rough their past has been. They' expectations fought for change since coming off the slave ships and they' expectations gotten results. Same cannot be said of the black man in Africa nay Nigeria. In Nigeria today, anything, I mean ANYTHING can kill you. Make no mistake about it, this is a shît-hole. |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by phreakabitoo: 1:34pm On Jul 16, 2018*. Modified: 6:35pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
This idiotic attention seeking goat has no idea what she is talking about! An absolute retard is what this lady is. |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by Lizilicious(f): 1:34pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
I read half someone shud pls gv me a summary, my head is aching seriously |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by theoldpretender(m): 1:34pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
musicwriter:Africans kept slaves long before the whites came in. One of the earliest archeologic discoveries in Nigeria is the tomb of an Igbo king...who was buried around 900CE. He was buried...with lots of his slaves. There was also the story of an Igala princess, who sacrified herself by being buried alive...so that her father could win a war...with her slaves. Selling slaves was just a means of getting revenues to among other things....defend African empires and territories. (Note...we Africans did not live in nice peaceful territories...we fought wars well well). We also sold slaves to the Arabs too by the way...and Arabs too led slave raids. The difference between African and American slavery...slaves in Africa could own land, property and could also becomeintegrated members of the community. But....second class. And they could be freed too. |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by xpmode(m): 1:38pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
ERCROSS:Yes na at least you will learn about her Granpa's history, in case who know you could hit Who What To be a Millionaire game |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by Diso60090(m): 1:39pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
Fear who nor fear igbo people from A/Z no one good na their blood the thing dey |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by alizma: 1:39pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
its a good thing that your family accept responsibility for the crime committed and has turn to God for forgiveness and mercy. |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by theoldpretender(m): 1:39pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
GreenArrow1:The black man in North America...the US and Canada ...still does have some issues with racisim (eg racial profiling, bad police treatment, poor schools, etc) but things as I said are better than they were in say the 1930's (when blacks could be lynched for flimsy reasons). I should add that when I say things are better.....I usually throw in a lot of caveats. But that one na another long tori. South America and Central America...hmm. In the US...you can see black faces on US TV shows. On telenovelas from South American countries with a large black population...zero (Even PLACES LIKE BRAZIL!) |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by LZAA: 1:41pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
Magichand:And somebody brought this nonsense to fp? Nawao Anyway to non igbos u can google the "igbo landing" QED |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by thesicilian: 1:45pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
SmartyPants:Can you elaborate on that please? |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by BabaRamota1980: 1:45pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
Magichand:If i talk now that Ibo love to stuff their vacuum-filled history with stories lifted from other people history, then mirrored and embellished and polished to make it appear truthful and real......people will say I hate Ibo. Can you all see the lies in this girl's story about her grandfather and their society? ![]() |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by theoldpretender(m): 1:48pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
ELKHALIFAISIS:If your great grandad had been caught as a slave...God forbid 1.You might have not existed because he would have died in the ship enroute to the Americas. 2.Most slaves ended up in what is now South America. Millions did end up in North America. 3.If your grandad ended up in South America...chances are you would be living in a favella...where life is just as cheap as it is in Nigeria (Police brutality, violent drug gangs, etc). 4.If your grandad ended up in US or Canada....good. You have a high chance of living in a violent, drug ridden, gang ridden neighbourhood. And most blacks are victims of crime...commited by other blacks. 5.There is also a chance you might end up living in a higher level of life...if your ancestor got educated...or played sports brilliantly.. 6.Is it worth allowing your ancestors suffer years of discrimination, often violent, just so that you can call yourself an American. 7. Black slaves were never sent to Australia. (The black Australian or Aboriginie is the original owner of that land. There are Africans there...but those are recent legal immigrants. Plus, Australia had a No Black Immigrant policy till 1968). 8. ThaNK God your ancestors were not sent to Argentina...to be used as cannon fodder in the wars of independence that wracked Argentina in the 19th century. Most blacks died in those wars...that, and massive whites only immigration, is why Argentina has less than 100000 black people.(once upon a time it was half the populaiton). |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by meobizy(m): 1:48pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
This is a long and very interesting read. I went 85% through it and booked it for later reading. |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by theoldpretender(m): 1:52pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
flyca:Good point...but it should be noted that most every human culture and race from the dawn of time practiced slavery. |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by Litmus: 1:53pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
Beware, all sorts of organizations: far-right groups, political groups, interests groups, Revisionists and so on are utilizing Bots and other means to spread misinformation, sow unrest and cause conflict all over the world. At its original inception, when being sold to congress, being able to sell ideas to the third world was an Internet selling point. |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by musicwriter(m): 1:54pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
theoldpretender:If someone ''could own land, property and could also become integrated members of the community'' then he/she wasn't a slave in the same way we have come to know slavery. In Africa, till today, there exists what we call apprenticeship, whereby people serve under a master, and this's an old practice. It is not called slavery. Yes, there were captives held as prisoners of war and probably looked down upon in society, but that was all there's to that. They were not ''traded'' as commodity from a seller to a buyer. Its interesting you mentioned Arabs. Both the Arabs and Europeans brought these practices to us when our lands were invaded. There were no ''buying and selling'' of human beings among Africans before the arrival of either the Arabs or Europeans. The slavery I am talking about is buying and selling of human beings before the arrival of the Arabs and Europeans. That's what I want to know. How did Africans buy and sell slaves before the arrival of the Arabs and Europeans? To whom did we sell the slaves to? That's what I want to know. |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by SmartyPants(m): 1:58pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
thesicilian:Across Africa slavery was already being practiced in various forms. The article in the OP speaks about it in paragraph 2 : Long before Europeans arrived, Igbos enslaved other Igbos as punishment for crimes, for the payment of debts, and as prisoners of war. The practice differed from slavery in the Americas: slaves were permitted to move freely in their communities and to own property, but they were also sometimes sacrificed in religious ceremonies or buried alive with their masters to serve them in the next life. And here are some other articles: http://www.discoveringbristol.org.uk/slavery/people-involved/enslaved-people/enslaved-africans/africa-slavery/ https://research.cornell.edu/news-features/curious-history-slavery-west-africa A lot of people argue that traditional African Slavery was milder and had room for more altruism. However, all slavery involves the same basic abbrogation of a person's will and what we understand today, as human rights. |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by TEYA: 1:58pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
And after all the prayers, apologise to the osu, treat them like brothers, intermarry and relate well with them, if not all your fasting and prayers na wash! Na waste of time and energy. |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by lympy: 2:00pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
Reading this piece and the dodgy comments from those I suppose to be teenagers and have no love for educating themselves makes me sad. I do not blame you but the government who hasn't taken education seriously enough to input History as a compulsory course in our curriculum. The writer has addressed serious socio political issues that your small heads cannot comprehend. For those who have visited the Badagry Slave route her Grand father is synonymous to Seriki Williams. History is the study of the past which enables us to understand the present and project into the future. In the words of Robert Nesta Marley AKA Bob Marley - If you know your history then you would know where you coking from! [color=#990000][/color] |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by Codes151(m): 2:01pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
Your great grandfather were cowards. Just like every other black person |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by 21savages: 2:07pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
Wen will sum1 finish reading this one. |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by mannatech: 2:10pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
royalamour:Even the Bible had this to say about slavery Can we also say God is also wicked
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| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by delpee(f): 2:14pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
lympy:The younger generation was denied the opportunity to learn history. It's the reason why many don't know much about their roots and can't learn from it to make their future better. If they had a good understanding of the past, we won't have so many of them seeking short cuts to success. Trekking across the Sahara and further risking their lives on a rubber boat on the Mediterranean Sea will not be first priolite if they had a good grasp of history. It's just so sad. The government messed up on a key aspects of education. A nation without a history hardly moves forward. ..nothing to reflect on and learn from. Thanks to the writer and OP for another perspective on slavery. It reminds me of the stories of Ajayi Crowther, Oluaidah Equiano (not sure of the spelling) et al. |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by EasterDell: 2:18pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
musicwriter:"Brain Damage"... Your very choice of words expose the bile in you. Ok now let me add some good old sense to your deranged thinking! A lion does not pity a goat, when he wants to eat... A human does not spare the chicken when hungry! That's the beauty of nature! Don't be weak, or you will pay the price dearly! . . . The white man owes no apologies for dominating, enslaving and coercing you to do their economic bidding! They where clearly superior and if your lazy, unitintlligent, tree worshipping ancestors did what they were supposed to do, history would be different! But noooo, they did nothing, and even today their children are still doing nothing! Blacks were backwards and useless in ancient times, couldn't read, write, build anything meaningful!... Sadly enough they are still very useless today! Look at the whole of black Africa! a disgrace to the international community, corruption, diseases always blaming and begging people! The black man owes himself some good dose of self respect, man up and be serious! No body owes you nothing! Lead well, study hard and build cities, technologies to dominate others! |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by baby124: 2:19pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
Lack of creative ability led her to write this nonsense in the New Yorker. Yes, there were instances like this. But involvement of foreigners fueled transatlantic slave trade. Many many cultures in the world buried their dead with slaves. Even South America had slaves who were buried with monarchs and they did a lot of head hunting. So don’t go on New Yorker to write patronizing articles which in the long run racists are looking for to justify their actions and absolve their ancestors who preyed on old practices guided by rules. Whites injected materialism into the process and made it absolutely foul. Africans never ever treated their slaves like animals till the whites taught them how to treat their slaves like animals. Those heavy chains and weapons of torture were not forged by Africans but by White people. Slaves were like indentured servants who reintegrated into society mostly. Most of the slaves captured when the greed got High were regular people trying to go about their daily lives! Also the Africans did not have an idea of the fate that was meted out to the salves sold. It was absolutely horrendous and most of them died in transit. Had they known, things may just have been different. |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by theoldpretender(m): 2:21pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
musicwriter:Quickly answering....Africans did buy and sell slaves to themselves. Slaves were war captives, or even people expelled from their communities. The Europeans and Arabs were just another market. To use a "poor' example....a certain Nigerian was kidnapped in the late 19th century...from what is now Kogi state,and sold off somewhere to an 'owner' in what is NOW oyo state. He was a slave for 20 years, before he got free, converted to Chirstianity., and returned home to preach to his people. (He eventually went on to work with..not for... a white missionary as a preacher ). On a side note...we did have some forms of currency before the Europeans....gold, manillas,cowries, etc. |
| Re: Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani: My Great-Grandfather, Nigerian Slave-Trader - New Yorker by Homeboiy: 2:27pm On Jul 16, 2018 |
Slavery is still happening in Libya |
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abeg make them come sell me to New Zealand this Nigeria don tire me under sai Barber terrorist