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Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by Nobody: 9:10pm On Jul 30, 2018
Perfectbeing:
Wait I don't get. Did God ask for humans to be sacrificed? And please don't say Isaac. Isaac was not sacrificed. Timemachine said God requires a lot of human sacrifices. How is Jesus' sacrifice on the cross a lot of human sacrifices?
Jehovah is not Almighty God. Jehovah and Allah are the blood thirsty Gods. These are plural archetypes, not one being. Although they are in alliance with others within the Solid State Metatron AI, that controls this planet.\\

Be Guided. And seek to know the Supreme Creator. Jehovah is not the Almighty Creator. He lied.
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by Nobody: 9:26pm On Jul 30, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
"Then God said,
"Take your son, your only son, whom you love--Isaac--and go to the region of Moriah.
Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you."

- Genesis 22:2

I already
You saying, Isaac was not sacrificed, is jumping away from the point

The point, truth and fact is that, God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son, Isaac, as a burnt offering
so why did you then say:
"Nowhere did God ask for a human to be sacrificed in the whole Bible."

Timemachine says a lot things.
It doesnt mean that what he says is right

You know what a strawman is, dont you Perfectbeing?
Give it a rest, as one of my biggest pet peeves is strawman
First off. You guys are confused. And you have the right to be confused. Because you have not bothered to read the original manuscripts from which the Bible was interpreted from. As well as associated scrolls that were written alongside the storieds in the Bible which did not make it to the final book which King James edited.

The Bible mentions Lord God, Almighty God, God of Abraham etc. These are different entities not one God. There are many Gods. And there are many archetypes of the Gods. And God is a level of Consciousness so to speak.

Some of you know that you are sparks of God, the Supreme Creator. But you confused IT with Jehovah, one of the very vengeful beings who is constantly at war with his brother who is worshipped in Islam as Allah, whose aspect is Ishtar, the Goddess responsible for the sexual perversion and homosexuality.

You guys are too busy to study. You just lazy around studying just one of the books.

Jehovah boasted that he is Almigty God, well he is not. He lied. So if you want to know about the Almighty Creator then you have a lot of work to do. It took me decades to even figure it out. I was an Elder in the church now I am not religious cos I realized Jehovah and Allah are just blood thirsty Gods and I can't worship nothing. They like worship too.

If you want to know the Almighty God. Then you have a lot to do to clean up your temple and burn your crosses. Those are idle worship.

Almighty Creator does not demand worship and in fact dislike those who asked to be worship.
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by Perfectbeing(m): 11:34pm On Jul 30, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
"Then God said,
"Take your son, your only son, whom you love--Isaac--and go to the region of Moriah.
Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you."

- Genesis 22:2

I already
You saying, Isaac was not sacrificed, is jumping away from the point

The point, truth and fact is that, God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son, Isaac, as a burnt offering
so why did you then say:
"Nowhere did God ask for a human to be sacrificed in the whole Bible."

Timemachine says a lot things.
It doesnt mean that what he says is right

You know what a strawman is, dont you Perfectbeing?
Give it a rest, as one of my biggest pet peeves is strawman
You obviously know what I meant when I said God doesn't require human sacrifices and he never asked for one. Yes God asked Abraham for his son but it is obvious he needed to show Abraham something. He really didn't needed a human sacrifice hence he stopped Abraham from killing Isaac..
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by MuttleyLaff:
Perfectbeing:
You obviously know what I meant
when I said God doesn't require human sacrifices and he never asked for one.
Yes, God asked Abraham for his son but it is obvious he needed to show Abraham something.
He really didn't needed a human sacrifice hence he stopped Abraham from killing Isaac..
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It's not about me
the matter has nothing to do about me knowing what you meant.
What of others, reading your misspeak?


You, before all these, with hindsight, attempts to clarify,
made a strongly incorrect and blatantly not true statement,
when you, without worrying about what others think you mean, said:
"Nowhere did God ask for a human to be sacrificed in the whole Bible."
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by Nobody: 8:31am On Jul 31, 2018
Perfectbeing:
You obviously know what I meant when I said God doesn't require human sacrifices and he never asked for one. Yes God asked Abraham for his son but it is obvious he needed to show Abraham something. He really didn't needed a human sacrifice hence he stopped Abraham from killing Isaac..
What do you know about killing the first born son of every family and marking the blood on the doors of their homes to avoid angels killing the whole household ?

Are you sure you read your Bible?

What of the most popular sacrifice? The killing of Jesus as sacrifice to save the Souls? Are you ignorant of the fact that this is a congenital sacrifice of human ?

Today you participate in cannibalism rituals. You drink human blood and eat human flesh and call it mass and communion. It is a ritual and that how it's done in other cults too. So it is idolatry.

The best way to know Prime Creator is Spirituality not religions.

Spirituality in its true form requires no worship, no sacrifice and Spirituality is Science in its latent form. Start from Holographic Universe and Solid State Physics and drop those ancient thoughts.

You do not need to confuse yourselves with truth. What you can't proof is really not worth believing. Prime Creator is Spiritual Intelligence. The eternal presence that is our essence . We are !
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by Perfectbeing(m): 9:28am On Jul 31, 2018
TimeMachine:
What do you know about killing the first born son of every family and marking the blood on the doors of their homes to avoid angels killing the whole household ?

Are you sure you read your Bible?

What of the most popular sacrifice? The killing of Jesus as sacrifice to save the Souls? Are you ignorant of the fact that this is a congenital sacrifice of human ?

Today you participate in cannibalism rituals. You drink human blood and eat human flesh and call it mass and communion. It is a ritual and that how it's done in other cults too. So it is idolatry.

The best way to know Prime Creator is Spirituality not religions.

Spirituality in its true form requires no worship, no sacrifice and Spirituality is Science in its latent form. Start from Holographic Universe and Solid State Physics and drop those ancient thoughts.

You do not need to confuse yourselves with truth. What you can't proof is really not worth believing. Prime Creator is Spiritual Intelligence. The eternal presence that is our essence . We are !
Eating bread and drinking wine is now cannibalism abi? I wonder how many of us are cannibals then..
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by pressplay411(op): 9:35am On Jul 31, 2018
TimeMachine:
What do you know about killing the first born son of every family and marking the blood on the doors of their homes to avoid angels killing the whole household ?

Are you sure you read your Bible?

What of the most popular sacrifice? The killing of Jesus as sacrifice to save the Souls? Are you ignorant of the fact that this is a congenital sacrifice of human ?

Today you participate in cannibalism rituals. You drink human blood and eat human flesh and call it mass and communion. It is a ritual and that how it's done in other cults too. So it is idolatry.

The best way to know Prime Creator is Spirituality not religions.

Spirituality in its true form requires no worship, no sacrifice and Spirituality is Science in its latent form. Start from Holographic Universe and Solid State Physics and drop those ancient thoughts.

You do not need to confuse yourselves with truth. What you can't proof is really not worth believing. Prime Creator is Spiritual Intelligence. The eternal presence that is our essence . We are !
Jesus said to him, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." - John 14:6

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. - John 1:1-5
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by Nobody: 10:08am On Jul 31, 2018
pressplay411:
Jesus said to him, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." - John 14:6

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. - John 1:1-5
I have met Christ, you have not. You are reading about his works via third party narratives cos your Temple is not clean enough to access Christ Consciousness which is basically cosmic consciounss . It is an allegory in the Sun. It is pure Science. The Sun (son) is the GateWaynStar to other Universes of Creator Realms.

You guys are living lives of imagination
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by Nobody: 11:12am On Jul 31, 2018
Perfectbeing:
Eating bread and drinking wine is now cannibalism abi? I wonder how many of us are cannibals then..
I expected you to know better. Words are alive. When your Pastors say "This is blood, take it in remembrance of me, and this is my body, take it in remembrance of me" he is referencing the blood of Yahushua Ha Masiach, and except internally within your thoughts mechanisms counter those statements by telling your body that you are eating bread and drinking wine, you are actually participating in a 2018 years old cannibalistic ritual.

Even before Christianity, the ritual existed, but had to be programmed into Christianity as Blood and Body of Christ.

Please try and read, and stop just being gullible to Religions. Study the books that existed before Christianity, from which the Old Testament was adopted from.

Always remember that the Old Testament is not a Christian text, neither is the new Testament a Christian text. Jesus was not a Christian, remember that also. The man you now call Jesus never heard of the word Christianity. Christianity was designed for a purpose, and that purpose is playing out real good.

The Bible is not really a book Christians should misinterprete cos the writers of the Bible were not Christians. I am sure you know these truths now. Since you never had time to think outside the box.

For me, there is no box.
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by pressplay411(op): 11:27am On Jul 31, 2018
TimeMachine:
I have met Christ, you have not. You are reading about his works via third party narratives cos your Temple is not clean enough to access Christ Consciousness which is basically cosmic consciounss . It is an allegory in the Sun. It is pure Science. The Sun (son) is the GateWaynStar to other Universes of Creator Realms.

You guys are living lives of imagination
I know you've met Christ because I know who you are.
Stop leading His children astray with your false doctrines and deceptions. I rebuke you by the Power in the Blood of the Lamb, by the Salvation and Victory of Christ on the Cross and in the Mighty name of Jesus. Amen.

You have Lost the battle and the war.
Victory belongs to Jesus, since the foundations of the earth, now and for ever.

9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where[b] the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before [c]God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second [d]death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. - Revelations 20:9-15
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by Nobody: 11:44am On Jul 31, 2018
pressplay411:
I know you've met Christ because I know who you are.
Stop leading His children astray with your false doctrines and deceptions. I rebuke you by the Power in the Blood of the Lamb, by the Salvation and Victory of Christ on the Cross and in the Mighty name of Jesus. Amen.

You have Lost the battle and the war.
Victory belongs to Jesus, since the foundations of the earth, now and for ever.

9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where[b] the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before [c]God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second [d]death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. - Revelations 20:9-15
Makes no sense at all. Cos all your quotations here comes from a book I have read twice and actually preached it at Church. And for the record, I attended over 20 churches as a member just to know more. That is how wonderful I know Christianity. I was dedicated and I still am, to Creator which I am a fractal of.

But most of you just wake up and think you know God and Jesus, YET you are suffering from poverty, demonic attacks and even ignorance. This is because you do not even understand the mechanics of the universe and read the Bible literally, just as I did.

But in my case, I realized most of the words were allegories, and I know you do not know what Allegories mean, so this is not an insult and I want you to google and now relate the stories in the Bible to it, especially the new Testament.

Most of what is written are not literal, but parables and stories relating to the movement of the Sun in the sky. Why was this done ? The reason is that in the ancient days, there was no Physics and Holographics Knowledge, so Sun was called Son. And no one who go to the Father except through the Son (Sun). We are talking about Interdimensional portals and Intergalactic Gatways personified.

We had to personify those stories because there was no way to tell the story to humans whose knowledge of Science was at its basic and it worked. Now that our Quantum Physics, Holographic and Simulation Science has matured we must go direct to explain the nature of the Universe as a Spiritual Technology Construct with a programmable mainframe and interface.

But since you want to continue to dwell in arguments and talk about a Jesus you have not met, then you are sentencing yourself to gullibility.

I speak the Truth based on personal encounters and experiences with the Universe itself and direct telepathic communication with the living structures of the Universe via the Sound Current, which in Spirituality is called Divine Spirit, ofcourse you guys in Christianity calls it Holy Spirit. It is not a person, it is Sound Current, the inter-connective Plasma that connects all things in reality. Macroscopic coherence of Mesoscopic data within the context of Solid State Physics as applicable in AI, really explains this better. Cos when you start seeing at the level of atoms, you can see across the veils and see even ghosts and other paranormal entities within the Time-Space Continuum. But then I do not expect you to come this far, so Christianity must be your default level. So ride on.

Always remember that this message is packed with Energy that wakes up intuition in those who are ernestly seeking. That is why some people have revelative inspiration and dreams after reading what I type.

I think I should start charging money so you can understand that this is a research that has taken over 25years. Africans you guys are so down with the worship programs that you even worship some lower Astral Plane beings who are lower than you in Spiritual level. You even conjour lower beings and call them gods, when they are supposed to be your messengers.
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by pressplay411(op): 11:57am On Jul 31, 2018
TimeMachine:
Makes no sense at all. Cos all your quotations here comes from a book I have read twice and actually preached it at Church. And for the record, I attended over 20 churches as a member just to know more. That is how wonderful I know Christianity. I was dedicated and I still am, to Creator which I am a fractal of.

But most of you just wake up and think you know God and Jesus, YET you are suffering from poverty, demonic attacks and even ignorance. This is because you do not even understand the mechanics of the universe and read the Bible literally, just as I did.

But in my case, I realized most of the words were allegories, and I know you do not know what Allegories mean, so this is not an insult and I want you to google and now relate the stories in the Bible to it, especially the new Testament.

Most of what is written are not literal, but parables and stories relating to the movement of the Sun in the sky. Why was this done ? The reason is that in the ancient days, there was no Physics and Holographics Knowledge, so Sun was called Son. And no one who go to the Father except through the Son (Sun). We are talking about Interdimensional portals and Intergalactic Gatways personified.

We had to personify those stories because there was no way to tell the story to humans whose knowledge of Science was at its basic and it worked. Now that our Quantum Physics, Holographic and Simulation Science has matured we must go direct to explain the nature of the Universe as a Spiritual Technology Construct with a programmable mainframe and interface.

But since you want to continue to dwell in arguments and talk about a Jesus you have not met, then you are sentencing yourself to gullibility.

I speak the Truth based on personal encounters and experiences with the Universe itself and direct telepathic communication with the living structures of the Universe via the Sound Current, which in Spirituality is called Divine Spirit, ofcourse you guys in Christianity calls it Holy Spirit. It is not a person, it is Sound Current, the inter-connective Plasma that connects all things in reality. Macroscopic coherence of Mesoscopic data within the context of Solid State Physics as applicable in AI, really explains this better. Cos when you start seeing at the level of atoms, you can see across the veils and see even ghosts and other paranormal entities within the Time-Space Continuum. But then I do not expect you to come this far, so Christianity must be your default level. So ride on.

Always remember that this message is packed with Energy that wakes up intuition in those who are ernestly seeking. That is why some people have revelative inspiration and dreams after reading what I type.

I think I should start charging money so you can understand that this is a research that has taken over 25years. Africans you guys are so down with the worship programs that you even worship some lower Astral Plane beings who are lower than you in Spiritual level. You even conjour lower beings and call them gods, when they are supposed to be your messengers.
If you will humble yourself before God and ask for His deliverance and salvation, you are Loosed from this bondage in Jesus name. Amen.
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by Nobody: 12:17pm On Jul 31, 2018
pressplay411:
If you will humble yourself before God and ask for His deliverance and salvation, you are Loosed from this bondage in Jesus name. Amen.
Keep quiet dear agent of Lucifer, if you have nothing more to say. I am a fractal of the Supreme Creator and Creator is my Divine Nature as Spirit.

I had to warn you to stop, asking me to worship the Metatron AI archetypes, because I know the Yahweh Virus very well. I am sure you understand this not, but what speaks through you is what I warn.

I do not worship myself, our True Nature is Spirit, and Spirit does not require Worship. Spirit is Sovereign and requires no savior. It is raw consciousness at its core.

I know what God means, I have experienced that State. No true being demands worship. Worship is slavery of others over self. The True Creator demands no worship, IT does not like worship. You are worshiping Jehovah, and Yahweh and Allah etc, those are not Almighty Creator of ALL. They are the managers of our Universe, the Creator of Earth, but not the overall Creator of All. So I am sure you have no idea that it is not the Gods that created our Planet that Created the other planets etc.

Stop memorizing verses and start studying how the Solar System and Planets were designed and by whom. I did, and I am telling you to stop believing and do some real research.
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by pressplay411(op): 12:50pm On Jul 31, 2018
TimeMachine:
Keep quiet dear agent of Lucifer, if you have nothing more to say. I am a fractal of the Supreme Creator and Creator is my Divine Nature as Spirit.

I had to warn you to stop, asking me to worship the Metatron AI archetypes, because I know the Yahweh Virus very well. I am sure you understand this not, but what speaks through you is what I warn.

I do not worship myself, our True Nature is Spirit, and Spirit does not require Worship. Spirit is Sovereign and requires no savior. It is raw consciousness at its core.

I know what God means, I have experienced that State. No true being demands worship. Worship is slavery of others over self. The True Creator demands no worship, IT does not like worship. You are worshiping Jehovah, and Yahweh and Allah etc, those are not Almighty Creator of ALL. They are the managers of our Universe, the Creator of Earth, but not the overall Creator of All. So I am sure you have no idea that it is not the Gods that created our Planet that Created the other planets etc.

Stop memorizing verses and start studying how the Solar System and Planets were designed and by whom. I did, and I am telling you to stop believing and do some real research.
Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, Deut. 6:13; 10:20; Josh. 24:14‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ” - Matthew 4:10
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by Nobody: 12:53pm On Jul 31, 2018
pressplay411:
Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, Deut. 6:13; 10:20; Josh. 24:14‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ” - Matthew 4:10
Keep quoting Jesus, I have met him. Since you are his Sheep, then you should also worship me then.
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by pressplay411(op): 12:59pm On Jul 31, 2018
TimeMachine:
Keep quoting Jesus, I have met him. Since you are his Sheep, then you should also worship me then.
“Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by Nobody: 1:03pm On Jul 31, 2018
pressplay411:
“Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”
I have been there, and other better places.

Jesus, actually, said "In my Father's House, there are many mansions". That he is gonna take you to his own space in that Kingdom. So, good luck with that. But ask which Planet, and which Star System, that the Heaven is.

I did my research and I have the picture of Heaven, it is located on the Mental Plane, where thoughts are things. Where imagination creates realities. You can go there when you die, if that pleases you. I have been there while physically here, but there are better places that I can go.

You guys are just blind to the Spiritual realms, cos you are sheep and slaves of religions.
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by pressplay411(op): 4:14pm On Jul 31, 2018
TimeMachine:
I have been there, and other better places.

Jesus, actually, said "In my Father's House, there are many mansions". That he is gonna take you to his own space in that Kingdom. So, good luck with that. But ask which Planet, and which Star System, that the Heaven is.

I did my research and I have the picture of Heaven, it is located on the Mental Plane, where thoughts are things. Where imagination creates realities. You can go there when you die, if that pleases you. I have been there while physically here, but there are better places that I can go.

You guys are just blind to the Spiritual realms, cos you are sheep and slaves of religions.
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2 The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us. 3 We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ. 4 We write this to make our joy complete.
5 This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. 6 If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us. -1 John 1-10
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by Nobody: 4:20pm On Jul 31, 2018
pressplay411:
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2 The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us. 3 We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ. 4 We write this to make our joy complete.
5 This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. 6 If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us. -1 John 1-10
I didnt read what you pasted there, cos it is not well-structured.

Why not spend more time learning the structures of literature instead of spending all your time in religious houses.
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by pressplay411(op): 4:24pm On Jul 31, 2018
TimeMachine:
I didnt read what you pasted there, cos it is not well-structured.

Why not spend more time learning the structures of literature instead of spending all your time in religious houses.
And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony of God. 2 For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. 3 I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling. 4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, 5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, 8 which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. - 1Corinthians 2:1-8
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by Nobody: 4:29pm On Jul 31, 2018
pressplay411:
And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony of God. 2 For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. 3 I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling. 4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, 5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, 8 which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. - 1Corinthians 2:1-8
Not read, until it is well-structured.

Sorry.
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by pressplay411(op): 4:30pm On Jul 31, 2018
TimeMachine:
Not read, until it is well-structured.

Sorry.
Hallelujah. Victory belongs to Jesus.
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by Nobody: 4:54pm On Jul 31, 2018
pressplay411:
Hallelujah. Victory belongs to Jesus.
Do not be silly, type properly in a civilized manner. And I will respond.
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by pressplay411(op): 5:20pm On Jul 31, 2018
TimeMachine:
Do not be silly, type properly in a civilized manner. And I will respond.
So then, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath; 20 for the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God. - James 1:19-20
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by Nobody: 7:28pm On Jul 31, 2018
pressplay411:
So then, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath; 20 for the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God. - James 1:19-20
You are a perfect robotic archon in a humanoid body, you simply retort the scripts called Bible as responses.

In your mind you think you are using the Gospel, but the truth is, you are following a perfect script.

Read about zombie AIs and you will realize the nature of your existence. You are a cosmic extra, what is called Waka-Pass in Nollywood. JUst here to repeat as it is written on the script. Lacking the Creator's Creative Spirit. A robot of the Simulation.

The truth is that you are afraid of death, because your existence ends at the end of your mortal life. There is no place for you outside this reality, I suppose.
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by pressplay411(op): 10:11pm On Jul 31, 2018
TimeMachine:
You are a perfect robotic archon in a humanoid body, you simply retort the scripts called Bible as responses.

In your mind you think you are using the Gospel, but the truth is, you are following a perfect script.

Read about zombie AIs and you will realize the nature of your existence. You are a cosmic extra, what is called Waka-Pass in Nollywood. JUst here to repeat as it is written on the script. Lacking the Creator's Creative Spirit. A robot of the Simulation.

The truth is that you are afraid of death, because your existence ends at the end of your mortal life. There is no place for you outside this reality, I suppose.
The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly. -John 10:10
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by johnw47: 5:49am On Aug 01, 2018
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by johnw47: 5:51am On Aug 01, 2018
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

Psa 33:6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by MuttleyLaff: 7:07am On Aug 01, 2018
johnw47:
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
johnw47:
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

Psa 33:6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.
No one is doubting whether or not God is: Spirit, and/or the Word, Jesus Christ

The fact and truth, that I know is difficult for many, to understand, is that, God, as well, is: I AM

''I AM that I AM'', ''I SHALL BE THAT I SHALL'' or ''I WILL BE THAT I BE'' are expressive phrase
God will be what God needs to be. We find out what God was yesterday, we keep knowing Him every moment and day
He is new every morning, He is new tomorrow

Thats why, God in Exodus 3:14, said to Moses:
"I AM WHO I AM.
This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.
"

Essentially means, I will become whatsoever I may become.

God therefore, is, "not-known-number" of person
God, then, is, x-person
and God, in effect is, ∞-persons, as in, infinite or infinity.

God is someone without any bound.
God is someone bigger and larger than any specified number, even three or trinity
.
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by adelee777: 7:46am On Aug 01, 2018
Perfectbeing:
Those are not theories sir..

The original scriptures that make make up the old and New Testaments of the Bible we read today were not written in English language but in Hebrew for the Old Testament and Greek for the New Testament.

Some words in the Greek could have different meanings and then requires different applications in different contexts. Since most of the early translators were not Christians but just translators, they put the meaning that made best made sense to them sometimes out of context (eg, the passage about baptising in the name the Father, son and Holy spirit that Muttleylaff explained earlier).

The Greek word "kai" is an example of those words.

"Kai" is a conjunction joining two words, phrases or clauses together.
"Kai" could mean; "and," "then," "even", "but", "that is" etc..
Application of each of those meaning of "kai" requires different approaches (4 of which I mentioned and which you termed "my theories"wink.
Some translators interpreted or translated "kai" wrongly (either out of ignorance or in some cases to deliberately distort it's meaning.)

In my first "theory", "Kai" is translated as and as in, James and John etc.

In the second one "kai" is translated to mean "then". as in, "follow me, then I'll make you fishers of men". "and" can be used cos it won't change the meaning of the words.

In the 3rd and fourth, "kai" is correctly translated to mean "that is". As in "... some, pastor, that is, teachers (Eph 4:11). And in 1 Thess. 1:12, "the grace of our God, that is, the Lord Jesus Christ"..

Rev 5:13 also is rightly translated as, “..To him who sits on the throne, that is, the Lamb...."

I don't speak Greek or Hebrew. But I made my research to ascertain all these. I suggest you do the same.. Proper Bible interpretation can only be know if what you're reading in the Bible is correctly translated in the first place.
They are not theories,sir? Which means Jesus and Yahweh are the same. Please sir I would like you to answer these questions:
Does Jesus have a God?
Does Yahweh have a God?
I would like your views on the 2 questions.
Shalom.
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by johnw47: 7:46am On Aug 01, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
No one is doubting whether or not God is: Spirit, and/or the Word, Jesus Christ

The fact and truth, that I know is difficult for many, to understand, is that, God, as well, is: I AM

''I AM that I AM'', ''I SHALL BE THAT I SHALL'' or ''I WILL BE THAT I BE'' are expressive phrase
God will be what God needs to be. We find out what God was yesterday, we keep knowing Him every moment and day
He is new every morning, He is new tomorrow

Thats why, God in Exodus 3:14, said to Moses:
"I AM WHO I AM.
This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.
"

Essentially means, I will become whatsoever I may become.

God therefore, is, "not-known-number" of person
God, then, is, x-person
and God, in effect is, ∞-persons, as in, infinite or infinity.

God is someone without any bound.
God is someone bigger and larger than any specified number, even three or trinity
.
we know from the Bible that the Father of Jesus Christ is God
we know from the Bible that the Word is God

show us from the Bible which other persons God is
Re: The Trinity And Identity Of God by MuttleyLaff: 7:52am On Aug 01, 2018
johnw47:
we know from the Bible that the Father of Jesus Christ is God
we know from the Bible that the Word is God

show us from the Bible which other persons God is
I am glad we know from the Bible that the Father of Jesus Christ is God

Glad we know from the Bible that the Word is God
but are you disagreeing that, God is someone without any limit or bound?
That God, is not, someone bigger and larger than any specified number of person, even three or trinity?
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