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Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by Exwizard: 9:22am On Aug 14, 2018
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Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by DBossNG(m): 9:22am On Aug 14, 2018
I really don't know!
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by tuniski: 9:25am On Aug 14, 2018
Edcure1:
Truly, Dogara's expected defection will have little or no consequence than an aggravation of the current intrigues and frenzy at the National Assembly.

Their influence ends in the National Assembly. They know that. This is why they're fighting tooth and nail to prevent the removal of Saraki as SP.

Most of these "fence sitters" and defectors have been de-facto members of PDP. They have always colluded with the opposition to truncate APC interests.

The APC is well aware of this and, I'm sure the new party leadership could not condone their consistent treachery any longer.
Dogara should join his like-minds in the PDP. He won't be missed. However, he should make sure that the door does not hit him on the way out.
Exactly,the control of NASS is more powerful than having 1m votes in katsina!
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by maestroferddi: 9:28am On Aug 14, 2018
Tinubu propaganda stable working in overdrive.

The gale of defections dealt the likes of TVC (Tinubu Views Channel) a terrible blow.

They are beginning to regain their lost voices...
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by Belcherng: 9:30am On Aug 14, 2018
What goes around, comes around political drama
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by Nobody: 9:34am On Aug 14, 2018
kahal29:
I concur........ Like I said in another thread

To defeat him will be very easy. Since he represents 3 LGAs - Dass/Balewa/Bogoro constituency, all APC needs to do is to field somebody from either Balewa or Dass since he has been denying these LGAs a chance of representation for over 12 years now, play the religious card since he is a Christian in midst of Muslims and I tell you his name will be sorry in the next election.
the way u Afonjas sit at home n create useless stories is alarming, The NE has a very high percentage of Christians,as much as 30/35 percent of NE are Christians and in bauchi same 30 - 35 percent of The populace are Christians.

Dogara comes from a strong Christian community and he has been winning federal reps elections there from 2003 till 2015 before APC came. Don't sit in Oshogbo n assume rubbish
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by oluwole4love: 9:37am On Aug 14, 2018
Dogara might be a lone voice in d wilderness as its going
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by Cornerstone2020(m): 9:39am On Aug 14, 2018
madridguy:
I'm sure he will be somewhere now regretting his moves. Though I don't have anything against him but it's just a pity he lack visionary advisers. He followed Atiku's advise and today he's alone.
Saraki will not know the damages he has caused to himself now till tomorrow. When Atiku was doing his own back then, he felt like the Alpha and Omega, and today he's full of regret. PDP needs OBJ and it's obvious Pa OBJ will never support Atiku for anything.

Let us learn to be contended, there's nothing wrong aspiring for greater heights, but we should learn not to be greedy, selfish and self centered.
Is there any day you can spend without a mention of Saraki and Atiku ? May God grant you peace of the mind.
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by Nobody: 9:39am On Aug 14, 2018
My advice to Dogara, he shouldn't defect...let him remain in apc and secure his ambition then trash them after re-election.

One thing is certain north is narrow minded and everything about them without analysis bleeds apc...
If Dogara is from SE/SS it will be very easy for him...but for north or SW is a pure battle...

Now looking at this u will see how Nigeria is divided into lines....North and sw has everlasting link
Se/ss same.....

I advice Dogara to stay back...

Saraki can win kwara any day any time....
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by babadeee(m): 9:41am On Aug 14, 2018
angry angry

Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by tuniski: 9:44am On Aug 14, 2018
PrecisionFx:
the way u Afonjas sit at home n create useless stories is alarming, The NE has a very high percentage of Christians,as much as 30/35 percent of NE are Christians and in bauchi same 30 - 35 percent of The populace are Christians.

Dogara comes from a strong Christian community and he has been winning federal reps elections there from 2003 till 2015 before APC came. Don't sit in Oshogbo n assume rubbish
God bless you the guy is too arrogantly ignorant!
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by Nobody: 9:47am On Aug 14, 2018
KenOne:
Dogara allowed himself to be deceived by Wike and Saraki not knowing that his religion puts him at disadvantage position in Bauchi.

Even the moslems with same faith with Buhari that are against him politically are finding it funny to win their wards elections not to talk of Dogara a christain.

Dogara would have asked for forgiveness from APC the moment he went against APC and became speaker then show that he's APC by blood with his actions of allocating juicy committee chairmen to APC rep members, give speedy hearing to executive bills and romance with his state governor then he's sure of return to the house even speaker might be given to him again.

But rather he tinted towards Saraki, Wike, Tambuwal and PDP and started frustrating executive bills and became one of the arrow head of changing sequence of election targeted at the president.

Take it to the bank if Dogara does not settle his differences with his state governor, Dogara will not be re-elected be it in APC or PDP, senator Misau from Bauchi too that defected to PDP will not be re-elected, Dino Melaye will also not return. Then Saraki might not be re-elected and fails to install a governor in Kwara, is pushing his luck too far Buhari is not Jonathan.

2019 so many big politicians political career might end especially those against Buhari from the North. We all saw how Sai Buhari dealt a big blow to big wigs in PDP in 2015 people like Sule Lamido, Adamu Muazu, Aliyu Babangida, Dakingari, Idris Wada.
Ur analysis is empty n useless.

Dogara comes from a Christian community n all the local governments in his district are fully dominated by Christians.

U people enjoy talking nonsense. before apc was formed and while Buhari was a serial loser, Dogara has been winning elections n has done 4 tenures as a federal rep member. He won in the midst of ur so called Muslims of cpc for almost 2 decades.

20% - 40% of northern Nigeria are Christians, depending on the region or zone ur talking about
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by docadams: 9:52am On Aug 14, 2018
Corrinthians:
Come what may, all I know is he knows his fate is sealed already. He's already revealed the workings of his iinnermost heart and mind and the party bigwigs knows he's a closet traitor and a saboteur.

He's only being tolerated at the moment for numbers sake, but is already being counted as a loss, a foregone alternative. His presence is not being factored in the grand scheme of things.

When things get to a head, edge him out we will, but for the time being, he can enjoy some respite for there are bigger axes to grind elsewhere. wink

I can see Reno viewing the thread. Hello Reno, remember me? wink


How possible? You are a trouble locator. Dogara is a traitor, a traitor, a traitor., no matter the positives. His types are better done away with. Traitors are poisonous liquids.
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by Nobody: 10:02am On Aug 14, 2018
tuniski:
God bless you the guy is too arrogantly ignorant!
he's a dunce. an Afonja. they just sit down in SW and analyse places that they have never visited in their entire lives.
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by Tareq1105: 10:04am On Aug 14, 2018
kahal29:
I concur........ Like I said in another thread

To defeat him will be very easy. Since he represents 3 LGAs - Dass/Balewa/Bogoro constituency, all APC needs to do is to field somebody from either Balewa or Dass since he has been denying these LGAs a chance of representation for over 12 years now, play the religious card since he is a Christian in midst of Muslims and I tell you his name will be sorry in the next election.
No.

I love your analysis of Dogaras dilemma but we don't have to encourage playing religious card.

Where has the religious card politicians have been playing taken us to?

Personally, I want Dogara to leave to go and join his codefectors in pdp.

The governor will not reconcile with him because he doesn't need him to become governor again and again.

Head or tail, Dogara is a goner politically though we're not his god. His God can spring surprise.

However, I'm of the view that Dogara can no longer be trusted hence he should leave.

You see, politicians are terrible. Dogara looks cool headed bcoz he doesn't have the kind of control Saraki has in kwara.

Unfortunately for him, Saraki cannot help him in Bauchi.

Until one is tried with power you wouldn't know what he would do with it.

Dogara should be sent packing before Saraki will teach him what he doesn't know again.
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by Nobody: 10:07am On Aug 14, 2018
docadams:
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How possible? You are a trouble locator. Dogara is a traitor, a traitor, a traitor., no matter the positives. His types are better done away with. Traitors are poisonous liquids.
apc can NEVER do away with Dogara. They have been pleading with him to stay put.
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by Positivepoint(m): 10:27am On Aug 14, 2018
tuniski:
Christians are majority in his constituency ie the 3 LGA else a Christian can never win election against a moslem in a moslem majority population!
FACT!
You don't really know his constituency!
U got it wrong dey vote him without religion sentiment. Christains are actually minority in all but 1 lGA in bauchi which is bogoro. Tafawa balewa and dass are majority Muslims. It's just like the case of David umar representing Niger state central remember he won against the governor muazu babangida aliyu the population of Christians in niger state is less than 20%. Religion is going to be a big factor in 2019 thanks to CAN etc. One of the reason I doubt if dogara is going back. The governor has already given a candidate his slot already from Tafawa balewa. He is gone and he know it.
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by tuniski: 10:33am On Aug 14, 2018
Positivepoint:
U got it wrong dey vote him without religion sentiment. Christains are actually minority in all but 1 lGA in bauchi which is bogoro. Tafawa balewa and dass are majority Muslims. It's just like the case of David umar representing Niger state central remember he won against the governor muazu babangida aliyu the population of Christians in niger state is less than 20%. Religion is going to be a big factor in 2019 thanks to CAN etc. One of the reason I doubt if dogara is going back. The governor has already given a candidate his slot already from Tafawa balewa. He is gone and he know it.
The entire northern Nigeria is very religiously sensitive. Southern Bauchi is a spilt and Dogara's constituency is majority Christain.
He will only be finished if he remains in apc. PDP has always been the party. Of his constituency until 2015!

The gamble on APC has been disastrous and such communities across the north are reverting back to PDP.
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by Edcure1: 10:37am On Aug 14, 2018
Cornerstone2020:
Is there any day you can spend without a mention of Saraki and Atiku ? May God grant you peace of the mind.
You are funny cheesy
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by Positivepoint(m): 10:43am On Aug 14, 2018
tuniski:
The entire northern Nigeria is very religiously sensitive. Southern Bauchi is a spilt and Dogara's constituency is majority Christain.
He will only be finished if he remains in apc. PDP has always been the party. Of his constituency until 2015!

The gamble on APC has been disastrous and such communities across the north are reverting back to PDP.
ve u ever been to bauchi. how comes apc wins in Tafawa Balewa & Dass but lost in bogoro? In 2015 apc lost only in bogoro. Same will happen in 2019 but dogara ain't gonna be part of the govt in 2019
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by shaydeenamz(m): 10:46am On Aug 14, 2018
madridguy:
Dogara is already a gonner grin grin grin Let him go and fight for local government chairman in his LG.
man u are not from BAUCHI lemme tell u he command respect morethan the governor in his constituency he is a god there stay there they blab trash
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by docadams: 10:48am On Aug 14, 2018
PrecisionFx:
apc can NEVER do away with Dogara. They have been pleading with him to stay put.
Saraki is a traitor.
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by madridguy(m): 11:02am On Aug 14, 2018
What part of Bauchi are you?


shaydeenamz:
man u are not from BAUCHI lemme tell u he command respect morethan the governor in his constituency he is a god there stay there they blab trash
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by klas(m): 11:12am On Aug 14, 2018
HungerBAD:
Posted By: EMMANUEL OLADESU

[b]APC candidate Lawan Gumau won the Bauchi South by-election with 119,489 votes. The flag bearer of the PDP, Ladan Salihu, who polled 50, 256. The margin is wide. Interestingly, former Governor Isa Yuguda, who ran on the platform of the Green Party of Nigeria (GPN), also lost his deposit. He got 33, 079 votes.

If the votes of the PDP and GPN are combined, it will still be a far cry. The result is a worthy tribute to the memory of the late Senator Alo Wakili, who died on March 17. He was a chieftain of the APC. The result affirmed that Bauchi is an APC stronghold.

But, Dogara is not a paper weight politician at home. The mark of departure is that the Bogoro/Dass/Tafawa Balewa Federal Constituency, which he represents in the Lower Chamber, has been polarised. The constituency is made up of Bogoro, Dass and Tafawa Balewa councils. In his native Bogoro council, the poll result reflected his leaning to the opposition. Since it is an open secret that the federal legislator and his supporters swung the pendulum to the direction of the PDP, the opposition party defeated the APC in the council. This is a confirmation that Dogara is the undisputed political leader of Bogoro. The PDP got 6,646, APC secured 3,992. However, the jubilation across the wards in Bogoro council was short-lived. Outside Bogoro, voters sang a different tune. At the end, it was evident that the Speaker had a potent, but a narrow base. Therefore, analysts suggested that Dogara would need APC just as the party needs him to win Bogoro in next year’s polls.

In Dass council, APC got 7, 432 votes and PDP polled 4,028. In Tafawa Balewa, APC also defeated the PDP, garnering 14,309 votes to PDP’s 8,528. In other councils, APC maintained a peculiar pattern of electoral victory.


The poll result was also reminiscent of the 2015 governorship and presidential elections when voters endorsed the APC at the polls. In 2015, the APC won in 19 of the 20 local governments in Bauchi during the governorship poll. The councils are: Alkaleri, Bauchi, Dass, Tafawa Balewa, Kirfi, Misau, Darazo, Katagun, Itas-Gadau, Toro, Ganduwa and Dambam. Others are Giade, Ningi, Jama’re, Shira, Warji, and Zaki. Instructively, the ruling party lost in Bogoro council.

Abubakar, the former Attorney-General and Commissioner for Justice, garnered 654, 934 votes to emerge winner. His rival, Mohammed Jatau of the PDP, polled 282,650 votes. In fact, Abubakar defeated the PDP in Tafawa Balewa Local Government Area, where the former PDP national chairman, Alhaji Adamu Muazu, hails from. He also won in Zaki Council, Jatau’s birthplace.

In the 2015 presidential election, President Buhari’s APC got 931, 598 votes. Former President Goodluck Jonathan of the PDP got 86,085 votes[/b]

http://thenationonlineng.net/defection-what-difference-can-dogara-make/
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by senatordave1(m): 11:13am On Aug 14, 2018
Guys,whether dogara stays in pdp or apc is of no importance likewise if he wins re-election or not,he cant be speaker again.but him getting re-elected will be difficult.governor abubakar on election day will make sure him,nazif and misau dont get re-elected.same fate awaits dino,sani,ubali shittu,danbaba,kwankwaso,hunkuyi etc.the primary tging now is for buhari to get between 1.5-2 million in bauchi
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by Nobody: 11:16am On Aug 14, 2018
docadams:
Saraki is a traitor.
buhari is a threat to national peace.
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by tuniski: 11:23am On Aug 14, 2018
Positivepoint:
ve u ever been to bauchi. how comes apc wins in Tafawa Balewa & Dass but lost in bogoro? In 2015 apc lost only in bogoro. Same will happen in 2019 but dogara ain't gonna be part of the govt in 2019
The question is, what has been the voting pattern of Dogara's constituency from 1999?

2015 was a gamble in many parts of Nigeria it is not the core reflection of political/electoral pattern!
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by Positivepoint(m): 11:35am On Aug 14, 2018
tuniski:
The question is, what has been the voting pattern of Dogara's constituency from 1999?

2015 was a gamble in many parts of Nigeria it is not the core reflection of political/electoral pattern!
Bros like I said he was riding on people good will no religion sentiment but 2019 religion will play a huge role and dogara being a minority will become a political casualty
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by ruggedized1: 11:48am On Aug 14, 2018
Dogara my man cool
Re: Defection: What Difference Can Dogara Make? by shaydeenamz(m): 12:39pm On Aug 14, 2018
madridguy:
What part of Bauchi are you?
inside bauchi town frm dogara's constituecy.see is important for one to knw a political architecture before analysis but we analys based on sentiment which is wrong
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