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Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by Nobody: 11:24pm On Aug 25, 2018
kizyalex10:
Now let me explain things abt bride price.is not only d igbos.be it yoruba or hausa.d bride price and the list is determined by so many factors.first the quality of d girl in question.ie.investing heavily in her tuition and maybe she became successful.as a doctor.lawyer.engineer.at dis point.she wont be a liability to her husband.but an asset.so the father inlaw and d kinsmen will want the potential inlaw to be worth giving such an asset to.financially ok.then most cases the man wont even bother much abt too much list readjustment.then another is abt the inlaws its self.the bride parents.their eagerness to give out their daughters to you.if their daughter is an asset beauty with brains.dat they believe attracts better suitors.then at that point they wont be scared brandishing their list cos if u leave,another man is at d door praying for him to get a chance.but when they see she is a liability or still raw.that after marriage,u will still have alot to do for her.ie.education,business,or jst a house wife.then they can quickly liase with u during dowry payment and list nd den to d elders to help readjust things.with the proverbial saying that women re nt married once.they re married continiously.which means if u collect huge sums now and d inlaw struggles tomorrow after payment or refuses to help anyone from the inlaw side.then its nt good.but if they treat him well.he can visit once a while to show appreciation there by extending his dowry payment endlessly.(indirectly)so is nt jst the igbos ,am sure every tribe demand based on d quality of their export.period.because if thats not the case.there re short cuts girls use.some may have a babe or get pregnant for the guy and d parents will rush and accept whatever he brings so that it wont be a shame for them that their daughter gave birth outside wedlock.NOTE:both d asset and liability wife lists are d same.but can be readjusted to the bearest minimum if they wish u take their daughter.
So, ladies are now exports??

Men who marry important ladies that hold top government and organisation posts don't pay before marrying them in the west but a lady who has only a B.Sc without a nice job is what you're here typing epistles about how the parents invested so much and whatever.
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by martinskelly(m): 11:25pm On Aug 25, 2018
milemimi93:
Until you trained a female daughter from infant to adult, then you'll understand why the list is always huge..
Why are you talking like this, as if male sons are not trained also. Lemme give you a fact, do you realise that it is even an uphill task to train a male son than the female and also it is even more expensive to educate a male son than the female,then WHY suffer the male son all because of marriage.
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by milemimi93(m): 11:27pm On Aug 25, 2018
martinskelly:
Why are you talking like this, as if male sons are not trained also. Lemme give you a fact, do you realise that it is even an uphill task to train a male son than the female and also it is even more expensive to educate a male son than the female,then WHY suffer the male son all because of marriage.
Endure bro. The world would soon come to an end and everybody can rest..

The system was fvcked up right from the garden of Eden. .
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by horia: 11:31pm On Aug 25, 2018
CAPSLOCKED:
SOMEONE SAID THAT TRADITIONAL WEDDING IS SEXISM, DISCRIMINATION AGAINST MEN, AND I AGREE.

MEN ARE MADE TO PAY HUGE SUMS JUST TO MARRY ANOTHER HUMAN (A LIABILITY THAT COMES WITH TOO MUCH RESPONSIBILITES IN MANY CASES).
WOMEN ON THE OTHER HAND, ARE BEING SOLD LIKE SALLAH RAMS IN THE MARKET.
THIS IS SLAVERY IN DISGUISE.

PATRIARCHY WILL NOT DIE UNTIL MEN STOP GETTING MILKED DRY IN THE NAME OF TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE. undecided
you called it slavery because the man is paying. grin
What of, in India, where the woman pays and still becomes a slave to her in-laws.
Please we should not divert. Igbo traditional marriage is only a chance 4 the girl's family to make themselves happy with the Bride's PRICE. Maybe a payback for all the food the girl ate since birth. wink
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by Nobody: 11:32pm On Aug 25, 2018
pinkcottoncandy:
Wait put that money in dollars and you will know how cheap it is to marry a woman in Nigeria...

So if a parent trains their daughter from birth to university and spend millions on her education...the reason you saw and liked her ...so they should give her out for free...knowing that if she becomes successful in the job market you will be the one to benefit... and you will be the one to quote how much she gives or should not give to help her family out....as a man you should proudly pay whatever they quote if you are worth your salt.

Man own this and that...pesin no go hear word...
So parents don't take care of their male children also? They don't spend millions to train them? They spend thousands to train them instead, maybe? And who benefits more in marriage? The bride parent and family get more juicy goodies than the husband family.
There's an adage which says 'if you need a child to take care of you at old age, then pray for a female child' since once a male child is married, he automatically bear the burdens of his wife and her family. So what exactly are you insinuating @bolded?
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by Nobody: 11:40pm On Aug 25, 2018
Ok
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by ghostwritter(m): 11:43pm On Aug 25, 2018
CAPSLOCKED:
SOMEONE SAID THAT TRADITIONAL WEDDING IS SEXISM, DISCRIMINATION AGAINST MEN, AND I AGREE.

MEN ARE MADE TO PAY HUGE SUMS JUST TO MARRY ANOTHER HUMAN (A LIABILITY THAT COMES WITH TOO MUCH RESPONSIBILITES IN MANY CASES).
WOMEN ON THE OTHER HAND, ARE BEING SOLD LIKE SALLAH RAMS IN THE MARKET.
THIS IS SLAVERY IN DISGUISE.

PATRIARCHY WILL NOT DIE UNTIL MEN STOP GETTING MILKED DRY IN THE NAME OF TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE. undecided
why not just say you don't have money for bride price.
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by princenath: 11:46pm On Aug 25, 2018
I love Yoruba ppl,they see wedding as normal thing not extortion... Why will u demand a hell of things and still ask for huge sum all in the name that your daughter wants to stay in someone's home to become wife..
Are we men not leaving the same house..
Marriage list should b considerate not too much..
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by bigocean(m): 11:55pm On Aug 25, 2018
safarigirl:
where bride price is relatively cheap and there are more landladies than landlords.

Well, as long as okada men and vulcanizers are still getting married from this same east, I will never understand where some of you meet these families that don't budge. Which money is a okada rider using to get married?
some of these people you mentioned did not pay bribe price oo. They simply kidnap somebody's daughter and get her pregnant grin
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by bigocean(m): 11:59pm On Aug 25, 2018
horia:
you called it slavery because the man is paying. grin
What of, in India, where the woman pays and still becomes a slave to her in-laws.
Please we should not divert. Igbo traditional marriage is only a chance 4 the girl's family to make themselves happy with the Bride's PRICE. Maybe a payback for all the food the girl ate since birth. wink
Shebi the man too did not eat in his father's house since birth? Ok, continue.
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by davidufuoma(m): 12:00am On Aug 26, 2018
possible stupidity review

Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by davidufuoma(m): 12:01am On Aug 26, 2018
stupidity

Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by Wiseonetemmy(m): 12:06am On Aug 26, 2018
milemimi93:
Until you trained a female daughter from infant to adult, then you'll understand why the list is always huge..
So a sons training is free.
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by Flickzvill(m): 12:10am On Aug 26, 2018
chiommy123:
Honestly some lists need reevaluation. Guys should appreciate too. Its not easy answering someone else's name for life.
lmao wtf are you saying? It's not easy answering someone's name for life? Are they paying you for it? Na work? Answer your father's name for life na
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by Nobody: 12:46am On Aug 26, 2018
milemimi93:
Until you trained a female daughter from infant to adult, then you'll understand why the list is always huge..
Training a child, whether a male or female is the parents' responsibility and it isn't force on them. If they can't train her, then they shouldn't have her. Whether planned or unplanned, once the child is born, it is heirs to train.
If that's the case, the ones that neglect their daughters shouldn't even be writing any list.
My parents trained me up to this level but God help me, I will scrutinise whatever list they want to give my husband-to-be and make sure I have a correction pen and a pen while at it.
The most stupid thing is that some extended family members that didn't even contribute #10 eraser during the training will also come and claim "our daughter". grin
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by horia: 1:09am On Aug 26, 2018
bigocean:
Shebi the man too did not eat in his father's house since birth? Ok, continue.
lol
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by bezimo(m):
Aonkuuse:
Hahahahahah they don't know nah, but like seriously some people will be doing as if they are selling their daughters out
Later the woman will come into husbands house and talking nonsense equality and equal responsibility..forgetting that they have been sold to the man.
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by Buffalowings3(m): 1:23am On Aug 26, 2018
chiommy123:
why don't you stick with your own traditions and let me stick with mine. A million and one guys and still counting do this everyday without complaining. Am Igbo and am proud of my culture
So you're no longer a feminist

Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by Buffalowings3(m): 1:26am On Aug 26, 2018
ghostwritter:
why not just say you don't have money for bride price.
Try to read and understand.
The bone of contention is culture vis a vis feminism

Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by bezimo(m): 1:26am On Aug 26, 2018
happney65:
I went to court and got married with just about 10 People in attendance..I dont have time for all these nonesense marriage list where the daughter is being sold..Have always had it in mind of just going to court and thats all..My wife agreed with me but she just dey use style to ask me if we can still do it later..and even at that her list is about 60K or thereabout..we are sensible yoruba's and we aint selling our daughters like some people do..

Some stupid yoruba's these days also come with a big list as if the daughter is being sold.I dont blame them sha,I blame the mumu man that will go through hell all because i want to marry their daughter..On top that ohh,the lady nor her family wont drop a dime..Na on top of the Man them go put everything..

Nonesense and Buhari
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by Xmen149(m): 1:29am On Aug 26, 2018
Vickygarl:
Training a child, whether a male or female is the parents' responsibility and it isn't force on them. If they can't train her, then they shouldn't have her. Whether planned or unplanned, once the child is born, it is heirs to train.
If that's the case, the ones that neglect their daughters shouldn't even be writing any list.
My parents trained me up to this level but God help me, I will scrutinise whatever list they want to give my husband-to-be and make sure I have a correction pen and a pen while at it.
The most stupid thing is that some extended family members that didn't even contribute #10 eraser during the training will also come and claim "our daughter". grin
cheesy my sister!

one of my uncle go marry oyibo Europe finish oh,no bride price,no headache from inlaws till date

come get 2 beautiful half cast like that,.see where itiboribo they brag list wey im go give in-law when time reach embarassed

The wife just use one eye dey look am,...me sef follow they look am undecided
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by OyinO: 1:31am On Aug 26, 2018
Truth hurts. Double standard Naija feminists
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by bezimo(m): 1:31am On Aug 26, 2018
Lizilicious:
I don't know the part of Akwa ibom she's talking abt oo, but YESTERDAY AN IGBO MAN NEXT TO MY TABLE BRAGGED HOW HE SHUTS DOWN HIS WIFE BY SHOWING HER "THE LIST" AND ALL HIS EXPENSES DURING THE TRAD. ACCORDING TO HIM ITEMS ON THE LIST ALONE WORTH MOST 2.5M.. NOT TO TALK OF OTHER MERRIMENTS. SO SHE HAS NO RIGHT TO ANY OPINIONS IN THE MARRIAGE BECAUSE HE HAS PAID FOR HER, AND SHE'S "PROPERTY", JUST AS YOU MENTIONED ABOVE.
PEOPLE ACTUALLY "OWN" OTHER PEOPLE IN YOUR TRIBE AND YOU WANT TO CARRY ON WITH THAT SORT OF SLAVERY, JUST LIKE THE JEWS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.
WHY NOT OPEN YOUR MIND AND YOUR HEAD, AND ALLOW SOMETHING NEW ENTER FOR ONCE? undecided[b][/b]
And u can still come and argue if u think that's too much..

Pipo Shud get their facts right mbok, don't use ur village wahala to come and Spoil people's future marriages..

Kneel ko, roll ni
Lol!! Are you sure about that
My bae is from Akwai ibom..still wondering what the list will look like..you say half a page..
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by bezimo(m):
Odogiawa:
He was given this right at Imo state before he met an Akwa Ibom girl,that worsen the whole situation and made him angry that he was not gonna marry any girl from the east... he has no option than to come back to benin....
If i go to collect list from my Akwaibom folks for my bae from Ak and it looks like that list or its more than 400k-500k everything..I will say i no do again if they dont agree to trim the list..let them marry their daughter..or Let me eventually
marry her and she enter my house and talk nonsense feminsm or equality..that she wont cook or do her wify duties as per culture..she will tell me if it is her that paid or me that paid..
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by bezimo(m): 1:41am On Aug 26, 2018
Leopantro:
this reminds me of something that happened to a friend in Abia state.
The girls family put the birthprice at 800k.
the guy was mandated to sponsor the trad and the white wedding. serious fight started. the girl sided with the mother and said the guy must perform his right.
the guy did everything with anger but they later got married.

the marriage didn't last two months. now she is a baby boy and in her parent's house. no more suitors.
last i heard she was planning to leave the country.
The guy for just walk away and find another girl..instead of entering that disaster family..
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by Nobody: 1:43am On Aug 26, 2018
victorian:
No be only roll on the ground.

Why not roll and lick his feet join on the wedding day.

Nonsense.. Slave mentality also showing up when one least expects. Smhhhhhh.
My guess is the rolling on the ground is an exaggeration, she doesn't mean that literally. Do you really believe that bending the knee to serve your husband wine as the custom demands is a sign of slavery?
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by Nobody: 1:45am On Aug 26, 2018
Newboss:
What a shame that the females still open their mouth to defend the errors some men seek to fix. angry

It's obvious that when a lady is being beaten by her lover, you should just mind your business because the lady can kill you in the name of defending her lover. angry

I've always known that marriage is a scam, right from the "creation stories" in ALL religious books. angry

Women are BASICALLY tools for men. angry Absolute second class humans. angry

It all stems from religion angry

I hope someday up to 80% of women in Africa will see that bride price is simply a man acquiring himself a new tool that has pussy angry
So indirectly you are ungrateful to be part of a ideal nuclear family, a bastard would have been better?
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by Newboss(m): 3:21am On Aug 26, 2018
Ranks007:
So indirectly you are ungrateful to be part of a ideal nuclear family, a bastard would have been better?
Assumptions. angry

Marriage doesn't produce children, raw sex does. angry

What if his parents split after he was born, is he now a bastard?
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by chiommy123(f): 3:55am On Aug 26, 2018
grandstar:
If a culture isn't bad, why fix it?

There's nothing wrong with bride price except where the inlaws become greedy. In some cultures, it is as low as N10.

Feminist who are against it are either being righteous overmuch, throwing the baby out with the bathwater or just extremely petty like the Toronto gal
bride price is different from the list. List is general why bride price is BTW you and your inlaws
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by chiommy123(f): 3:57am On Aug 26, 2018
agabaI23:
You are from Imo state.
well am not
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by Cyoung4real(m): 4:03am On Aug 26, 2018
CAPSLOCKED:

YESTERDAY AN IGBO MAN NEXT TO MY TABLE BRAGGED HOW HE SHUTS DOWN HIS WIFE BY SHOWING HER "THE LIST" AND ALL HIS EXPENSES DURING THE TRAD. ACCORDING TO HIM ITEMS ON THE LIST ALONE WORTH MOST 2.5M.. NOT TO TALK OF OTHER MERRIMENTS. SO SHE HAS NO RIGHT TO ANY OPINIONS IN THE MARRIAGE BECAUSE HE HAS PAID FOR HER, AND SHE'S "PROPERTY", JUST AS YOU MENTIONED ABOVE.
PEOPLE ACTUALLY "OWN" OTHER PEOPLE IN YOUR TRIBE AND YOU WANT TO CARRY ON WITH THAT SORT OF SLAVERY, JUST LIKE THE JEWS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.
WHY NOT OPEN YOUR MIND AND YOUR HEAD, AND ALLOW SOMETHING NEW ENTER FOR ONCE? undecided




A FEW MONTHS INTO THE MARRIAGE AND YOU'LL HAVE THOSE IGBO HUSBANDS REGRETTING AND LAMENTING, THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE JUST BOUGHT MORE GOODS WITH ALL THAT WASTED MONEY INSTEAD. SO WHAT'S THE POINT? undecided

THE SAME "UMUNNA" AND VILLAGERS YOU FEED AND CLOTHE ARE STILL THE ONES THAT WILL GO AND PLANT CHARMS FOR YOU TO DIE SO THAT THEY'LL INHERIT YOUR PROPERTIES.
AGAIN, WHAT'S THE THE POINT? undecided
can you just counter her without lying biko.


shut down ko! shut up ni!...............if you no get money �............. you know the rest .
Re: The Kind Of List We Give Men, Women Are Meant To Be Rolling During Wedding- Lady by chiommy123(f): 4:06am On Aug 26, 2018
flyDixon:
then I guess the igbo communities have a community account where they all deposit in and use it to raise their offspring together as a community.
. they will still tell you that you are not the first person to performe such rites and clearly you are not. Some people still do beyond the list sef.
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