₦airaland Forum

Islamicpope:
D face of a Traitor

wirinet:
Regional government and centralised government are two diametrically opposite forms of government. Ironsi met 4 regions and left with 4 states.

wirinet:
False! The unification decree no. 34 of 1966, promulgated by General Ironsi destroyed the regional arrangement. He converted the 4 regions into 4 states and centralised all power in the federal government. From there it was easy to further subdivide the states by subsequent military heads of state.

If IBB had collapsed the 19 state structure he met back to 4 states created by Ironsi, Nigeria would still not have return to Regionalism, he needed to have promulgated a new decree to do that

Xander85:
They were both naive and wanted to be more Nigerian than their contemporaries who were more their ethnic groups before considering Nigeria!

Can you imagine there has been no Igbo head of state or president since this man!? And it's all the more mind-boggling when you consider who where the personalities and what groups championed Nigerias' 'independence' and were visiting London for all those constitutional conferences in the 50s.

gidgiddy:
You are blaming Ironsi for what he did not do. Ironsi converted 4 Regions to 4 states? How do you think a country as big as Nigeria can be made up of only 4 states? How can the entire Western Region be a state? Not possible. The 4 Regions were there through out Ironsi's time and had all the military heads of state left those 4 Regions exist the way Ironsi did, we would have returned to Regionalism when civilian rule returned. But because military heads of state like IBB kept cutting Nigeria up, there was nothing to return to civilians came back.

Xander85:
They were both naive and wanted to be more Nigerian than their contemporaries who were more their ethnic groups before considering Nigeria!

Can you imagine there has been no Igbo head of state or president since this man!? And it's all the more mind-boggling when you consider who where the personalities and what groups championed Nigerias' 'independence' and were visiting London for all those constitutional conferences in the 50s.

wirinet:
Regional government and centralised government are two diametrically opposite forms of government. Ironsi met 4 regions and left with 4 states.

BALLOSKI:
so, you people want to produce president? Not biafra anymore? The whole secession cry is to blackmail all of us into giving you presidency.

Presidency is earned, not given.

wirinet:
Regional government and centralised government are two diametrically opposite forms of government. Ironsi met 4 regions and left with 4 states.

wirinet:
Lies. The unification decree no. 34 of 1966 destroyed the regions. Please read it.

wirinet:
False! The unification decree no. 34 of 1966, promulgated by General Ironsi destroyed the regional arrangement. He converted the 4 regions into 4 states and centralised all power in the federal government. From there it was easy to further subdivide the states by subsequent military heads of state.

If IBB had collapsed the 19 state structure he met back to 4 states created by Ironsi, Nigeria would still not have return to Regionalism, he needed to have promulgated a new decree to do that

PrecisionFx:
why are u insisting that u must be idiotic

Ironsi met 4 regions n maintained it till the day he died. He only unified the military paramilitary n police n brought them under the centre in order to restore n maintain peace.

Till gowon died, The 4 regions in Nigeria submitted 30% of their revenue to the FG n kept back 70% to develop their region.

IGBOS never needed an end to regional gov't because eastern nigeria was Dar wealthier than Yoruba n Awusa regions so it would be stupid for igbos to submit their wealth for development of Yoruba n Hausa regions.

legba1:
which ever tribe plotted the first coup in Nigeria destroyed all.....very greedy bunch....now they are beaten atntheir own very game and plot and the whole land wont have peace.... Awon ndi Ara gbogbo

cescky:
I guess this is an achievement..and it guarantee heaven and success in your endeavours..

Poverty of the mind is a curse

FisifunKododada:
Ironsi, a yeabow man, put us in this mess by installing unitary government - to benefit the yeabowz his people. Now the yeabowz, are running around screaming marginalization. What a hypocritical bunch of cowards!

BALLOSKI:
keep deceiving yourself.

In the last 20 years the Yoruba have produced a president and vice president. You belong to the people that are yet to get that in over 30 years . So, don't brag too much.

1miccza:
Why is it that peeps like you enjoy disturbing a sane conversation between two matured adults, can you just keep your thoughts to yourself and let others do the same??

BALLOSKI:
indeed!

bisi16:
JTU Aguiyi-Ironsi: If only he tried and killed the coup plotters of January 66, we would have achieved plenty as a country by now. If U know, u know.


I’ve singing this to everyone who wants to hear. Aguiyi Ironsi and Ojukwu put the Igbos in this mess.

PrecisionFx:
In the last 20 years what has the Yoruba man walking down the streets of Ekitipupa and Ogbomosho gained?

did he gain quality education?

Did he gain employment?

does he have access to medical insurance?

does he have a mortgage to get a house?

does he have electricity to power his business?

Is his region more developed or richer than eastern nigeria?





It's high time u Nigerian youths start thinking "critically".

gurnam:
Lmao! You are really bitter!! Every affliction affection you igbos is caused by Yoruba people

Which Yoruba man promised you Presidency, if you need clarification about your promise, go and meet Boss Mustapha

Back to OP
The name Ironsi evokes a tribalistic, foolish, self-serving, greedy, Mr Decree 34 man. A typical Ibo man!

He was killed like a common dog. May his soul Rest permanently in the deepest part of hell fire

femi4:
Ironsi overthrown constituted authority.... What an Evil!
Thank God for Karma

horsepower101:
Omo you are still ignoring the fact that he centralized the powers in the region because of the ongoing crisis.

You are sounding as if he woke up one morning and decided to do it.

If you were him what other method could you have used to bring back law and order in the country? You really sound desperate at this point..


Give us your own solution of what you would have done to bring things in order?

Yyeske:
Let us call a spade what it is, eziokwu bu ndu(truth is life).
Igbos participated in making Nigeria what it is today.

Azikiwe rejected referendum and secession to be inserted into our constitution.

Nzeogwu and his colleagues led a one sided coup.

Ironsi created a unitary government and made the centre stronger than the regions, he didn't execute the coup plotters as expected in the military.

Ojukwu declared Biafra knowing fully well it's a declaration of war against Nigeria, no adequate preparation, weapon or foreign backup. That a pogrom was going on against Ndigbo in the north and Gowon desecrating the Aburi accord shouldn't had made him declare Biafra in a hurry without foreign backup and equipment, the US today would always go into a war with allies, we never had any.

Nnamdi Kanu brought his own madness into the mix by calling for the killing of Yorubas and Hausas, causing more friction between tribes.

FisifunKododada:
Ironsi, a yeabow man, put us in this mess by installing unitary government - to benefit the yeabowz his people. Now the yeabowz, are running around screaming marginalization. What a hypocritical bunch of cowards!

Sirjamo:
If you Want restructuring, go wake Ironsi from his grave and ask him what he was thinking when he aborted regionalism

I think its safe to say that igbos destroyed Nigeria

BALLOSKI:
so, you people want to produce president? Not biafra anymore? The whole secession cry is to blackmail all of us into giving you presidency.

Presidency is earned, not given.

kennypoju04:
Hmmm..ironsi


the destroyers of our dear country due to their greediness..

Shayetet13:
You are speaking as though Ojukwu woke up one day without any provocation to declare biafra? When you want to condemn Ojukwu's action, atleast consider the totally unprovoked massacre of Igbo race severally in the north. As the leader of the eastern states, what other option is there to react to the senseless killings? Order killing back? He is no animal! So what other option is there? Cower and accept the continuous killings? Igbos we know are no cowards. His decision to succeed was the best line of action. His mistake probably was that he trusted a certain tribe so much to keep up to their end of an agreement. If that tribe didn't agree at first, he would have considered other options towards the succession declaration.

Xander85:
They were both naive and wanted to be more Nigerian than their contemporaries who were more their ethnic groups before considering Nigeria!

Can you imagine there has been no Igbo head of state or president since this man!? And it's all the more mind-boggling when you consider who where the personalities and what groups championed Nigerias' 'independence' and were visiting London for all those constitutional conferences in the 50s.

PrecisionFx:
In the last 20 years what has the Yoruba man walking down the streets of Ekitipupa and Ogbomosho gained?

did he gain quality education?

Did he gain employment?

does he have access to medical insurance?

does he have a mortgage to get a house?

does he have electricity to power his business?

Is his region more developed or richer than eastern nigeria?





It's high time u Nigerian youths start thinking "critically".