₦airaland Forum

Shayetet13:
A federal prisoner in a regional prison that takes command from the regional leader.
So your shallow and uneducated mind does not know what facts are? Let me educate you a little for the sake of social empowerment. Facts are not statements made on nairaland. Facts are documented facts made with evidence of those documentation. Shown for all to see. Thats facts! You can thank me later! So now that i educated you can you now show me your facts?

in the 3rd quarter of
1966 is a matter of historical record. Lt. Col. Chukwuemeka Odumegwu
Ojukwu, Military Governor of Eastern Nigeria set Chief Awolowo free. For the records, Calabar was under the total control of Ojukwu. And Ojukwu released Awolowo unilaterally after the tension was already building between him and Gowon over the killings of Igbo men and women in the north. You can keep arguing that if you so wish.
Since i have noted you as a Igbo hater by your comments, your mentions henceforth will not be responded to. I dont waste my time on disgusting tribal bigots like you

Deadlytruth:
And that exactly was how federalism was killed. Recall that what really differentiates between federalism, unitary system and confederalism is just the degree of autonomy of the subnational units.

gidgiddy:
That is not how federalism was killed. Military rule is always a temporal thing. As long as the existing structure is in place, whenever civilian rule returns, federalism will return. Ironsi kept the 4 Regional structure. Had others done the same, we would have returned to 4 Regions as they were before military intervention.

That is why Gowon is to be blamed for the death of federalism. From 4 constitutionally created Regions, he made 12 unconstitutionally created states. This singular act made it impossible for Nigeria to return to the 1963 that only recognised 4 Regions. By the time other military rulers had come and gone, we had 36 unconstitutionally created states

Ihateyoumod:
No !matter why u say, ironsi's failure to do d needful, which was to hang all those who had committed treason against d state just showed it was as Igbo affair.

Obasanjo didn't fail to put all who killed murtala Muhammed to d sword.

Yyeske:
Let us call a spade what it is, eziokwu bu ndu(truth is life).
Igbos participated in making Nigeria what it is today.

Azikiwe rejected referendum and secession to be inserted into our constitution.

Nzeogwu and his colleagues led a one sided coup.

Ironsi created a unitary government and made the centre stronger than the regions, he didn't execute the coup plotters as expected in the military.

Ojukwu declared Biafra knowing fully well it's a declaration of war against Nigeria, no adequate preparation, weapon or foreign backup. That a pogrom was going on against Ndigbo in the north and Gowon desecrating the Aburi accord shouldn't had made him declare Biafra in a hurry without foreign backup and equipment, the US today would always go into a war with allies, we never had any.

Nnamdi Kanu brought his own madness into the mix by calling for the killing of Yorubas and Hausas, causing more friction between tribes.

PrecisionFx:
Stop bringing Ironsi into the list of coup plotters, It's a very idiotic idea.

Focus on who plotted the coup m their tribes. If u can't do that, den there's no need to keep blabbing.






Meanwhile have u finished Ur brothers book? Major Ademoyega

redflame:
Balewa's government was viewed as corrupt particularly by the western region. Lagos the then capital believed putting an end to the government was the only way to quell the corruption and violence (e.g operation wetie) going on in government. That's why the coup plotters were called REVOLUTIONARIES. It was until the narrative changed to an Igbo coup that why people suddenly had a second thought

gidgiddy:
Whatever decree that was passed by Ironsi is not the issue. The issue is how Nigeria went from a structure of 4 Regions to a structure of 36 states. Who abolished the 4 constitutionally created Regions we had? Today, not one of the 36 states in Nigeria was constitutionally created. So the narrative is that whoever abolished the 4 Regions is the person who destroyed the structural arrangement of Nigeria. Gowon abolished the 4 Regions and created 12 states, Murtala Mohammed took it from 12 states to 19. IBB also created some states. Ironsi was the only person who met 4 Regions and left 4 Regions. Therefore, anybody who accused Ironsi of being the one who destroyed the structure of Nigeria is an ignoramus.

T9ksy:
Hey mister, stop chasing your own tail. The decree passed by Ironsi is the main issue here and not the abolishion of regions.
If the newly created states have more autonomy than was obtainable before the Jan coup, there won't have been that much suspicion and anger from the purported aggrieved party.

The decree passed by Ironsi without the consent of the people took MORE power from the regions and invested it in the center.


Ojukwu your erstwhile secessionist leader believed in One nigeria at the time of decree 34- in fact, he supported the decree and couldn't wait to express his support by rushing on the air the following day to add his own quota.

gidgiddy:
How can the decree be the main issue when Military decrees are temporary laws that are dropped when civilian rule returns? Laws can made and unmade but restructuring is a very hard thing to achieve. That is why Gowon should never have abolished the 4 constitutionally created Regions he inherited from Ironsi to create 12 unconstitutional states. Had Gowon kept those 4 Regions, it would have been possible for Nigeria to return to 1963 constitution Nigeria was practicing before military intervention. But by creating states, Gowon and his fellow Northerners ensured that it was not possible. Ghana also had several coups and military rulers who suspended the constitution and centralised government. But what the Military rulers did not change the structure they met on the ground, just like Ironsi, today Ghana is made of 8 Regions and it's capital territory and practicing real federalism.

Ojukwu supported "One Nigeria" all the way to Aburi Ghana, even as thousands of his people were being slaughtered in a pogrom all over Nigeria. When your federal Government betrayed the agreement they signed in Aburi, Ojukwu realised that "One Nigeria" was just a term for Northern domination and he fought to free his people from it.

Ihateyoumod:
First of all I'm not Yoruba.... U fail to understand that the Hausa's didn't c the coup as an Igbo plot initially, it was just some over zealous group of officers who decided to seize power, that is how they saw it. What was the reason why they began to see it as an Igbo thing??.

The reason is ironsis inaction against the coup plotters. Their eyes den opened and they began to believe it was all planned for the Igbo's to take control of govt, that was how it was during ironsis regme , go n read history....Igbo's were everywhere, they became the most successful tribe, all govt positions were filled by Igbo men n women.

The Hausa's den said so this was d plan initially...that was d reason they struck back but this time in a very deadly manner.

schoolboij:
There's goes the usual mumbo jumbo with no link to back up his foolish claims. Who built the prison in Calabar? Who imprisoned Awo? Did ojukwu also released other prisoners in different prisons at that time? Can the governor of sokoto state release dasuki as he has now defected to PDP? These are questions sane minds ask before arriving at a conclusion. But being a flat head means little IQ.


Anyone who deflates your propaganda is an Igbo hater while you that called a whole tribe a betrayer even when there's no agreement between the Yorubas and you guys is a Yoruba lover. Osu logic.

gidgiddy:
How can the decree be the main issue when Military decrees are temporary laws that are dropped when civilian rule returns? Laws can made and unmade but restructuring is a very hard thing to achieve. That is why Gowon should never have abolished the 4 constitutionally created Regions he inherited from Ironsi to create 12 unconstitutional states. Had Gowon kept those 4 Regions, it would have been possible for Nigeria to return to 1963 constitution Nigeria was practicing before military intervention. But by creating states, Gowon and his fellow Northerners ensured that it was not possible. Ghana also had several coups and military rulers who suspended the constitution and centralised government. But what the Military rulers did not change the structure they met on the ground, just like Ironsi, today Ghana is made of 8 Regions and it's capital territory and practicing real federalism.

Ojukwu supported "One Nigeria" all the way to Aburi Ghana, even as thousands of his people were being slaughtered in a pogrom all over Nigeria. When your federal Government betrayed the agreement they signed in Aburi, Ojukwu realised that "One Nigeria" was just a term for Northern domination and he fought to free his people from it.

Deadlytruth:
The Balewa government had in it the likes of Zik, Okpara, Akintola, Ahmadu Bello, Dennis Osadebey.
The Western Region's grouse with that government was not the perceived corruption but her unrelenting illegal interference with the purely internal affairs of the region all in a bid to kill and bury AG.
Those who alleged corruption were the coupists who deemed it fit to intervene only when the weakening of AG had begun to have effect on the Eastern Region which was hitherto in partnership with the North in seeking AG's death.
How therefore could people have celebrated a coup which, though hinged on corruption excuses, ended up sparing some of the major actors in the corruption ridden government?

Yyeske:
Let us call a spade what it is, eziokwu bu ndu(truth is life).
Igbos participated in making Nigeria what it is today.

Azikiwe rejected referendum and secession to be inserted into our constitution.

Nzeogwu and his colleagues led a one sided coup.

Ironsi created a unitary government and made the centre stronger than the regions, he didn't execute the coup plotters as expected in the military.

Ojukwu declared Biafra knowing fully well it's a declaration of war against Nigeria, no adequate preparation, weapon or foreign backup. That a pogrom was going on against Ndigbo in the north and Gowon desecrating the Aburi accord shouldn't had made him declare Biafra in a hurry without foreign backup and equipment, the US today would always go into a war with allies, we never had any.

Nnamdi Kanu brought his own madness into the mix by calling for the killing of Yorubas and Hausas, causing more friction between tribes.

T9ksy:




Sadly, after wasting away 3millions of his kith and kins he claimed to be fighting for their freedom due to his sheer incompetence his people are still under northern domination, 4 decades later.

redflame:
You don't have to use uncultured words to make your point. Your hate is glaring. You are so naive to think that the words of the war victors are yea and amen. The victors will choose to write what they want. But when you hear from both sides, you will see every reason to scrutiny those reports you have heard.

gidgiddy:
You have to forgive, we can't all be the same. We are Igbos, we don't go down without a fight, even if it costs us 3 million souls. That's the stuff we are made of

You guys from the West have no fight in you, thats why you people chose to be Northern slaves long before Ojukwu declared Biafra.

As I said, we can't all be the same.

T9ksy:
You guys fought a lost war, matey!

At the end of it all, here you are still under the same notthern domination, you hated so much.

I suppose, going by that albino's escapade recently, one can say that you lot have not learnt a thing or two from Ojukwu's misadventure . Or probably, you lot are just genetically-wired to be suckerss for punishments

gidgiddy:
That is not how federalism was killed. Military rule is always a temporal thing. As long as the existing structure is in place, whenever civilian rule returns, federalism will return. Ironsi kept the 4 Regional structure. Had others done the same, we would have returned to 4 Regions as they were before military intervention.

That is why Gowon is to be blamed for the death of federalism. From 4 constitutionally created Regions, he made 12 unconstitutionally created states. This singular act made it impossible for Nigeria to return to the 1963 that only recognised 4 Regions. By the time other military rulers had come and gone, we had 36 unconstitutionally created states

gidgiddy:
You have to forgive, we can't all be the same. We are Igbos, we don't go down without a fight, even if it costs us 3 million souls. That's the stuff we are made of

You guys from the West have no fight in you, thats why you people chose to be Northern slaves long before Ojukwu declared Biafra.

As I said, we can't all be the same.

schoolboij:
Oga swerve. You didn't see his own Snipes at me. You only see what you want to see because of your innate hatred. Now run along.

redflame:
What a waste.....SMH

Xander85:
They were both naive and wanted to be more Nigerian than their contemporaries who were more their ethnic groups before considering Nigeria!

Can you imagine there has been no Igbo head of state or president since this man!? And it's all the more mind-boggling when you consider who where the personalities and what groups championed Nigerias' 'independence' and were visiting London for all those constitutional conferences in the 50s.

Racoon:
And so why have the APC been lying as usual while using the presidency as a bargaining chip for 2019

Yyeske:
Let us call a spade what it is, eziokwu bu ndu(truth is life).
Igbos participated in making Nigeria what it is today.

Azikiwe rejected referendum and secession to be inserted into our constitution.

Nzeogwu and his colleagues led a one sided coup.

Ironsi created a unitary government and made the centre stronger than the regions, he didn't execute the coup plotters as expected in the military.

Ojukwu declared Biafra knowing fully well it's a declaration of war against Nigeria, no adequate preparation, weapon or foreign backup. That a pogrom was going on against Ndigbo in the north and Gowon desecrating the Aburi accord shouldn't had made him declare Biafra in a hurry without foreign backup and equipment, the US today would always go into a war with allies, we never had any.

Nnamdi Kanu brought his own madness into the mix by calling for the killing of Yorubas and Hausas, causing more friction between tribes.

FisifunKododada:
Ironsi, a yeabow man, put us in this mess by installing unitary government - to benefit the yeabowz his people. Now the yeabowz, are running around screaming marginalization. What a hypocritical bunch of cowards!

Yyeske:
Let us call a spade what it is, eziokwu bu ndu(truth is life).
Igbos participated in making Nigeria what it is today.

Azikiwe rejected referendum and secession to be inserted into our constitution.

Nzeogwu and his colleagues led a one sided coup.

Ironsi created a unitary government and made the centre stronger than the regions, he didn't execute the coup plotters as expected in the military.

Ojukwu declared Biafra knowing fully well it's a declaration of war against Nigeria, no adequate preparation, weapon or foreign backup. That a pogrom was going on against Ndigbo in the north and Gowon desecrating the Aburi accord shouldn't had made him declare Biafra in a hurry without foreign backup and equipment, the US today would always go into a war with allies, we never had any.

Nnamdi Kanu brought his own madness into the mix by calling for the killing of Yorubas and Hausas, causing more friction between tribes.