₦airaland Forum

Obi1kenobi:
You only added to the reasons of the Igbophobic people with this pomposity. I'm not sure how the logic holds up either that people reject the Igbo identity because it's associated with excellence. Surely, if the Igbo identity is associated with excellence, then they'd want to associate with it. Why do you think many Igbos like linking our heritage with Jews (a farce I find very irritating)? Because Jewish people are a highly accomplished, resourceful, enterprising, thrifty, influential group.

Some Anioma groups reject the Igbo identity because they have complex histories which straddle different heritages, so they consider it simplistic to distill their essence to Igbo-ness. I can't really call Jim Ovia an Igbo man. He bears an Edoid name and like many Agbor/Ika sub-groups, his language probably sounds more Edoid than Igboid. The Anioma culture is more diverse and complicated than many Igbos make out. It should be possible to acknowledge cultural ties without looking to subsume a sub-culture into a larger one. Itsekiris acknowledge their Yoruboid and Edoid ties but still retain a distinct identity, so why not an Ika man. Oh, and Aniomas are themselves one of the most accomplished groups in Nigeria. They have nothing to "fear" in competing with anyone, anywhere.
Ikwerre Igbo denial looks more politically motivated, but is another story for another day.

I agree with almost everything you said except the Jim ovia part.
ovia is the ika word for forest. In Igbo izugbe it is ohia.The V and H factor is present here.

And it is normal for clans at the fringes of igboland to share words with their non-igbo neighbors.

There are still people in the nsukka axis that bears igala/idoma names such as Onoja to name a few.

For an Igbo person to bear Onoja or ovia as surname doesn't make him less igbo.

TundeBricklayer:
Rubbish
Stop fooling yourself, during 2015 election Ambode state of origin took center stage, same Lagos indigenes are still questioning Tinubu state not minding Lagos is a cosmopolitan state, Yorubas hate themselves more than Igbos, Igbos can yab themselves but never fight or kill themselves, they are united more than any tribe in Nigeria, go to various markets in Nigeria and beyond, every Sunday they unite and hold various town meetings across all states, coming together during new yam and end of the year meetings. We know how Christians, traditional worshippers fight themselves in west, even how Obas fight themselves, how Yorubas fight Eguns, may be I should remind you how Ondo parents doesn't what their children to marry Ijebu people. Can you show me and link where Catholics and Anglicans are killing themselves in the east or where Anambra people killing Ebonyians, don't take because of two more inconsequential idiots displaying online to condem others, Igbo unity that's what made them recover so quick after the war No tribe is perfect

You're comparing entirely different things. State and clan parochialism exists among groups. It is worst among Igbos. As I said Bianca Ojukwu, a woman who married an Anambra man and had Anambra children had her Anambrarian identity questioned because some clowns were supporting Ifeanyi Ubah. You must also have missed the part where I said Igbos are peaceful, so what's the point telling me they don't kill themselves. That has nothing to do with Igbo unity, but a general value Igbos attach to life, unlike our Northern brethren or the oft-violent political unrests in the SW and SS. Yorubas culturally and politically are a more united bloc than Igbos. I'd consider this in realm of empirical fact when observing Nigerian socio-politics. Their institutions like their royal fathers and socio-cultural groups like Afenifere wield more influence among them and their Yoruba identity trumps their religion.

And let's stop kidding ourselves. I didn't make my observations because one or two Igbo people on here embarrass themselves. Nairaland is a big community with over a million members and in many ways is a microcosm of wider society. And Igbos here exhibit the greatest internal strife by far. More than all other groups combined. It does play out in wider Igbo interactions and it's also exhibited when Igbos are trading barbs with SS Igboid groups. Why is it that no Hausa or Yoruba groups have this identity crisis? Why always Igbos. To say it's because of "jealousy" like someone asserted earlier is exactly the problem. Ogun people are an incredibly accomplished people. I'd say they're the only state whose indigenes are more accomplished than Anambrarians. I have never in my life seen a thread where Ogun people are insulting Ekiti or Kwara or Kogi people about how superior they are. Anambrarians do it all the time to their fellow Igbos. They are well-known braggarts. And until we cure that illness of arrogance, it's going to keep reflecting poorly on us and other Igbo groups in the SS would always be wary of us.

aniomafirstson:
I have to disagree with you here
Oliseh Ogochukwu denied Igbo but that doesn't make him unsuccessful.

Pazienza you of all people should know aniomas are one of the most accomplished group in Nigeria whether we deny being Igbo or not.

You might have a point, though as an Igbo, I had to wonder why you are more interested in correcting supposedly wrong projection of Anioma by me, and less interested in correcting wrong projection of Ndiigbo by that Igboid entity.

You now know why I'm the way I am with you guys, someone would ultimately have to put your erring Igboid brothers in check, since you lots had proved not interested in doing that.

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Obi1kenobi:
You're comparing entirely different things. State and clan parochialism exists among groups. It is worst among Igbos. As I said Bianca Ojukwu, a woman who married an Anambra man and had Anambra children had her Anambrarian identity questioned because some clowns were supporting Ifeanyi Ubah. You must also have missed the part where I said Igbos are peaceful, so what's the point telling me they don't kill themselves. That has nothing to do with Igbo unity, but a general value Igbos attach to life, unlike our Northern brethren or the oft-violent political unrests in the SW and SS. Yorubas culturally and politically are a more united bloc than Igbos. I'd consider this in realm of empirical fact when observing Nigerian socio-politics. Their institutions like their royal fathers and socio-cultural groups like Afenifere wield more influence among them and their Yoruba identity trumps their religion.

And let's stop kidding ourselves. I didn't make my observations because one or two Igbo people on here embarrass themselves. Nairaland is a big community with over a million members and in many ways is a microcosm of wider society. And Igbos here exhibit the greatest internal strife by far. More than all other groups combined. It does play out in wider Igbo interactions and it's also exhibited when Igbos are trading barbs with SS Igboid groups. Why is it that no Hausa or Yoruba groups have this identity crisis? Why always Igbos. To say it's because of "jealousy" like someone asserted earlier is exactly the problem. Ogun people are an incredibly accomplished people. I'd say they're the only state whose indigenes are more accomplished than Anambrarians. I have never in my life seen a thread where Ogun people are insulting Ekiti or Kwara or Kogi people about how superior they are. Anambrarians do it all the time to their fellow Igbos. They are well-known braggarts. And until we cure that illness of arrogance, it's going to keep reflecting poorly on us and other Igbo groups in the SS would always be wary of us.

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Another rubbish, I know you are from west, disguising as Igbo to play us down, Yorubas lost Ilorin to Fulani because of hatred among themselves go and read the history, they insult themselves here, their people with contrary opinions or political affiliations to them they lebel them IPOB, Fayose, Adeleke, Fami and others, Yoruba hate themselves more than Igbos, you're fully aware of what happened in Osun during Muslim and Christian students or UI between Muslim and Christina students, I know how you guys operate, you are a pathological liar by saying Afenifere weild more influence than Ohaneze, only some Yoruba Christians respect Afenifere group, Igbos are not united and they gave GEJ block votes in 2015 Igbos are Republican doesn't mean we can't be united to achieve a goal, IPOB sit at home is another case. You most be out of your mind saying Ogun people are more accomplished than Anambra. Tell me another state outside Lagos in west another Yoruba man from another state is governor,or senator since we enter democracy

Obi1kenobi:
You're comparing entirely different things. State and clan parochialism exists among groups. It is worst among Igbos. As I said Bianca Ojukwu, a woman who married an Anambra man and had Anambra children had her Anambrarian identity questioned because some clowns were supporting Ifeanyi Ubah. You must also have missed the part where I said Igbos are peaceful, so what's the point telling me they don't kill themselves. That has nothing to do with Igbo unity, but a general value Igbos attach to life, unlike our Northern brethren or the oft-violent political unrests in the SW and SS. Yorubas culturally and politically are a more united bloc than Igbos. I'd consider this in realm of empirical fact when observing Nigerian socio-politics. Their institutions like their royal fathers and socio-cultural groups like Afenifere wield more influence among them and their Yoruba identity trumps their religion.

And let's stop kidding ourselves. I didn't make my observations because one or two Igbo people on here embarrass themselves. Nairaland is a big community with over a million members and in many ways is a microcosm of wider society. And Igbos here exhibit the greatest internal strife by far. More than all other groups combined. It does play out in wider Igbo interactions and it's also exhibited when Igbos are trading barbs with SS Igboid groups. Why is it that no Hausa or Yoruba groups have this identity crisis? Why always Igbos. To say it's because of "jealousy" like someone asserted earlier is exactly the problem. Ogun people are an incredibly accomplished people. I'd say they're the only state whose indigenes are more accomplished than Anambrarians. I have never in my life seen a thread where Ogun people are insulting Ekiti or Kwara or Kogi people about how superior they are. Anambrarians do it all the time to their fellow Igbos. They are well-known braggarts. And until we cure that illness of arrogance, it's going to keep reflecting poorly on us and other Igbo groups in the SS would always be wary of us.

Your observation on the bragging attitude of Anambraians is correct and you will agree with me that this is coming from large mouthed poor folks from there who saw little fortunes. You can't see such disposition from the successful elites like Peter Obi, Soludo, Achebes and Innoson etc. On the issue of Unity, i beg to disagree with you because 2015 general election proved you wrong as ndigbo demonstrated unity and one voice in rejecting PMB. Another example is during the Nigeria-Biafra war, Ndigbo displayed a united front. The major bane in Alaigbo is our political class which are divided along their selfish parochial interests and thus they have lost their influence among the masses which have queued up for IPOB.

pazienza:
You might have a point, though as an Igbo, I had to wonder why you are more interested in correcting supposedly wrong projection of Anioma by me, and less interested in correcting wrong projection of Ndiigbo by that Igboid entity.

You now know why I'm the way I am with you guys, someone would ultimately have to put your erring Igboid brothers in check, since you lots had proved not interested in doing that.

lol
I had to correct that statement of yours saying aniomas deny being Igbo because they can't compete with SE.
lol that statement made me lmao because you know what the truth is. Is it in football,business,politics or where?

By the way underground works are ongoing among we pro-igbos of anioma. I'm sure you heard okowa's speech but people like you would gladly ignore the likes of okowa and co but rant about the likes of esogbue and that is my problem with you lots from SE.

Also we have this problem where an Igbo from SE rejects his brother just because the said brother is from the SS. Many SS igbo face this discrimination. You should deal with that problem also pazienza.

Also I want you to visit the (Igbo bu Igbo) Facebook group then tell me how you'd feel as an Igbo from SS reading comments from that group.

I respect you a lot even though there are some places we have some disagreement.

Mbene.

Let's do a bit of psychoanalysis here, shall we.
Below is the quote by your fellow Anioma brother.

The problem is the igbo identity is so negative right now. Only those with no other option identify as one.
Talk about the greed, the dominating nature, the excessive love of money, the 80% probability that an igbo business partner will cheat you, and the list goes on and on.

Igbos are greedy? How so? Abacha is not Igbo, yet he is the highest looter of Nigerian treasury. IBB, OBJ, etc.
All the greatest looters of Nigerian treasury, non is Igbo. OBJ was so greedy that after successful second term, he went around lobbying for third tenure. And even as we speak, Yorubas are scheming to become president again after Buhari, when they know that NC and SE are yet to have their turn.

Dominating nature? This is again an empty accusation, no where in Nigeria history had Ndiigbo tried to take things from other groups forcefully or lord over them.
We have Fulanis herdsmen running amok the entire NC killing and dispossesing people of their lands, we have a Fulani president who had northernized the country political appointments.
No one accuses them of trying to dominate others. Every property Ndiigbo acquire outside Igboland, we always buy with our hard earned money.
So when people speak of domination of Ndiigbo, pray tell what they mean, if not our hard fought suceess.

An Igbo business partner cheating you? If this were true, then Igbo businesses would have all closed down. Business sustainability is based on trust and confidence, no customer would continue patronizing a business man or partner who cheated him. Igbos couldn't have dominated the informal trading sector of Nigeria, so much that even indigenes would prefer to patronize an Igbo trader than their fellow indigene who owns a shop close to that of the Igbo man.
I served in a rural community in Yoruba land, one of the biggest shops in the community was operated by an Igbo man, he told me he only came to that community a year ago before I came, yet his shop is booming, so much that the indigenous shops around him had mostly been ran out of business , and the few ones around him still open are all scanty and barely surviving, and as expected, all of the indigenous shop owners are envious of the man. Yet their fellow townsmen prefer to patronize the Igboman than them.


We know all these accusations are borne out of atavistic envy.

Yet, you never sought to correct him. You were more interested in protecting your own Anioma stead. You expect Ndiigbo to accommodate insults and false allegations from your belligerent brothers without reacting, even when you wouldn't caution them, but you are quick to jump in the defend your belligerent ones, when we go hard against them.

Action will always begot reactions. As long as you keep having belligerent Igbophobic entities amongst you, who would join the rest of Nigeria to malign and demonize Ndiigbo, the likes of me will not fail to react and do so without looking or holding back. This is a promise I made to myself, long ago.

pazienza:
Let's do a bit of psychoanalysis here, shall we.
Below is the quote by your fellow Anioma brother.






Igbos are greedy? How so? Abacha is not Igbo, yet he is the highest looter of Nigerian treasury. IBB, OBJ, etc.
All the greatest looters of Nigerian treasury, non is Igbo. OBJ was so greedy that after successful second term, he went around lobbying for third tenure. And even as we speak, Yorubas are scheming to become president again after Buhari, when they know that NC and SE are yet to have their turn.

Dominating nature? This is again an empty accusation, no where in Nigeria history had Ndiigbo tried to take things from other groups forcefully or lord over them.
We have Fulanis herdsmen running amok the entire NC killing and dispossesing people of their lands, we have a Fulani president who had northernized the country political appointments.
No one accuses them of trying to dominate others. Every property Ndiigbo acquire outside Igboland, we always buy with our hard earned money.
So when people speak of domination of Ndiigbo, pray tell what they mean, if not our hard fought suceess.

An Igbo business partner cheating you? If this were true, then Igbo businesses would have all closed down. Business sustainability is based on trust and confidence, no customer would continue patronizing a business man or partner who cheated him. Igbos couldn't have dominated the informal trading sector of Nigeria, so much that even indigenes would prefer to patronize an Igbo trader than their fellow indigene who owns a shop close to that of the Igbo man.
I served in a rural community in Yoruba land, one of the biggest shops in the community was operated by an Igbo man, he told me he only came to that community a year ago before I came, yet his shop is booming, so much that the indigenous shops around him had mostly been ran out of business , and the few ones around him still open are all scanty and barely surviving, and as expected, all of the indigenous shop owners are envious of the man. Yet their fellow townsmen prefer to patronize the Igboman than them.


We know all these accusations are borne out of atavistic envy.

Yet, you never sought to correct him. You were more interested in protecting your own Anioma stead. You expect Ndiigbo to accommodate insults and false allegations from your belligerent brothers without reacting, even when you wouldn't caution them, but you are quick to jump in the defend your belligerent ones, when we go hard against them.

Action will always begot reactions. As long as you keep having belligerent Igbophobic entities amongst you, who would join the rest of Nigeria to malign and demonize Ndiigbo, the likes of me will not fail to react and do so without looking back. This is a promise I made to myself, long ago.

Very coherent and unbiased response. Kudos

TundeBricklayer:
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Another rubbish, I know you are from west, disguising as Igbo to play us down, Yorubas lost Ilorin to Fulani because of hatred among themselves go and read the history, they insult themselves here, their people that with contrary opinions or political affiliations to them they lebel them IPOB, Fayose, Adeleke, Fami and others, Yoruba hate themselves more than Igbos, you're fully aware of what happened in Osun during Muslim and Christian students or UI between Muslim and Christina students, I know how you guys operate, you are a pathological liar by saying Afenifere weild more influence than Ohaneze, only some Yoruba Christians respect Afenifere group, Igbos are not united and they gave GEJ block votes in 2015 Igbos are Republican doesn't mean we can't be united to achieve a goal, IPOB sit at home is another case. You most be out of your mind saying Ogun people are more accomplished than Anambra. Tell me another state outside Lagos in west another Yoruba man from another state is governor,or senator since we enter democracy

Let's not even talk about the fact that the entire Yoruba race were enmeshed in local skirmishes called "Kiriji war" AI deadly that they nearly wiped each other out, and were grateful to welcome the British colonialization, just to end the civil war.

Let's not forget that in post independent Nigeria, the Yorubas again couldn't handle themselves, as they quickly fractionalized their region into Awo and Akintola factions, and their region became a theatre for bloody clashes between rival political groups.
Whereas Zik quickly reconciled differences with Eyo Ita and maintained cordial relationship with Okpara all through.
It's true that the greatest ill to befall a society is not the death of a hero, but the birth of an efulefu.
We have too many efulefus in Igboland today, and it does tell.

pazienza:
Let's not even talk about the fact that the entire Yoruba race were enmeshed in local skirmishes called "Kiriji war" AI deadly that they nearly wiped each other out, and were grateful to welcome the British colonialization, just to end the civil war.

Let's not forget that in post independent Nigeria, the Yorubas again couldn't handle themselves, as they quickly fractionalized their region into Awo and Akintola factions, and their region became a theatre for bloody clashes between rival political groups.
Whereas Zik quickly reconciled differences with Eyo Ita and maintained cordial relationship with Okpara all through.
It's true that the greatest ill to befall a society is not the death of a hero, but the birth of an efulefu.
We have too many efulefus in Igboland today, and it does tell.

Thanks bro

TundeBricklayer:
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Another rubbish, I know you are from west, disguising as Igbo to play us down, Yorubas lost Ilorin to Fulani because of hatred among themselves go and read the history, they insult themselves here, their people that with contrary opinions or political affiliations to them they lebel them IPOB, Fayose, Adeleke, Fami and others, Yoruba hate themselves more than Igbos, you're fully aware of what happened in Osun during Muslim and Christian students or UI between Muslim and Christina students, I know how you guys operate, you are a pathological liar by saying Afenifere weild more influence than Ohaneze, only some Yoruba Christians respect Afenifere group, Igbos are not united and they gave GEJ block votes in 2015 Igbos are Republican doesn't mean we can't be united to achieve a goal, IPOB sit at home is another case. You most be out of your mind saying Ogun people are more accomplished than Anambra. Tell me another state outside Lagos in west another Yoruba man from another state is governor,or senator since we enter democracy

Of course, someone must always come up with the emboldened nonsense about where I'm from if they don't like what I say. I started hearing it since i opposed Nnamdi Kanu's rhetoric which made me an "afonja". It's immature and only shows one up as incapable of handling opposing views. Your trolling name adopting a Yoruba handle doesn't mean everyone is like you. I've spent several years on Nairaland and I've never had time for the juvenile inter-tribal nonsense many choose to fill their existence with.

You can cherry pick news clips all you want. Every soul here except someone living in a lot of denial know Yorubas are a pretty liberal group who forge relationships that trump religious lines. It is extremely common to see Yoruba families with both Muslims and Christians due to their tolerant culture. Extremely common. This doesn't happen among any other tribe, and certainly not among Igbos. If I brought a Muslim girl home to my parents, my mum would slump with a heart attack - as would most Igbos. I know it. You know it. Why the self-deception? Neither do I understand what political differences between PDP and APC have to do with the socio-cultural divisions I'm talking about.

And yes, Ogun indigenes are the most accomplished group in Nigeria. It's the state of Awolowo, and Soyinka, and the Ransom-Kutis and Fela, and Abiola, and Obasanjo, and Mike Adenuga, and many, many more. It's my opinion. Why are you hyperventilating over it? Because you're the typical Anambra braggart I spoke about before?
Why are you saying I should name another state outside Lagos with non-indigenes as governors? The point is if there was a cosmopolitan city like Lagos in the East, it would not be ruled by a non-indigene. It's certainly less likely to happen here than it would in the SW in a political climate where Igbo states are sacking non-indigenes from fellow Igbo states.

pazienza:
Let's do a bit of psychoanalysis here, shall we.
Below is the quote by your fellow Anioma brother.






Igbos are greedy? How so? Abacha is not Igbo, yet he is the highest looter of Nigerian treasury. IBB, OBJ, etc.
All the greatest looters of Nigerian treasury, non is Igbo. OBJ was so greedy that after successful second term, he went around lobbying for third tenure. And even as we speak, Yorubas are scheming to become president again after Buhari, when they know that NC and SE are yet to have their turn.

Dominating nature? This is again an empty accusation, no where in Nigeria history had Ndiigbo tried to take things from other groups forcefully or lord over them.
We have Fulanis herdsmen running amok the entire NC killing and dispossesing people of their lands, we have a Fulani president who had northernized the country political appointments.
No one accuses them of trying to dominate others. Every property Ndiigbo acquire outside Igboland, we always buy with our hard earned money.
So when people speak of domination of Ndiigbo, pray tell what they mean, if not our hard fought suceess.

An Igbo business partner cheating you? If this were true, then Igbo businesses would have all closed down. Business sustainability is based on trust and confidence, no customer would continue patronizing a business man or partner who cheated him. Igbos couldn't have dominated the informal trading sector of Nigeria, so much that even indigenes would prefer to patronize an Igbo trader than their fellow indigene who owns a shop close to that of the Igbo man.
I served in a rural community in Yoruba land, one of the biggest shops in the community was operated by an Igbo man, he told me he only came to that community a year ago before I came, yet his shop is booming, so much that the indigenous shops around him had mostly been ran out of business , and the few ones around him still open are all scanty and barely surviving, and as expected, all of the indigenous shop owners are envious of the man. Yet their fellow townsmen prefer to patronize the Igboman than them.


We know all these accusations are borne out of atavistic envy.

Yet, you never sought to correct him. You were more interested in protecting your own Anioma stead. You expect Ndiigbo to accommodate insults and false allegations from your belligerent brothers without reacting, even when you wouldn't caution them, but you are quick to jump in the defend your belligerent ones, when we go hard against them.

Action will always begot reactions. As long as you keep having belligerent Igbophobic entities amongst you, who would join the rest of Nigeria to malign and demonize Ndiigbo, the likes of me will not fail to react and do so without looking back. This is a promise I made to myself, long ago.

You and I know I have fought and argued with many aniomas who deny ndigbo. people like clefstone can attest to this.

Even an average Igbo denier from anioma do not hate ndigbo. I am from SS and I know the mentality of every Igbo denier from anioma(I can't speak for rivers though). pazienza how many Igbo denier can you even find in this thread? I only saw how most of them came here to show how proud they are about their heritage.

If there is a war against ndigbo in Nigeria today most aniomas would gladly die for the Igbo course.


I rather we discuss matters like this in the pan Igbo thread and not here.

pazienza:
Let's not even talk about the fact that the entire Yoruba race were enmeshed in local skirmishes called "Kiriji war" AI deadly that they nearly wiped each other out, and were grateful to welcome the British colonialization, just to end the civil war.

Let's not forget that in post independent Nigeria, the Yorubas again couldn't handle themselves, as they quickly fractionalized their region into Awo and Akintola factions, and their region became a theatre for bloody clashes between rival political groups.
Whereas Zik quickly reconciled differences with Eyo Ita and maintained cordial relationship with Okpara all through.
It's true that the greatest ill to befall a society is not the death of a hero, but the birth of an efulefu.
We have too many efulefus in Igboland today, and it does tell.

Again, the rehashing of ancient history (as if Germany's destructive past has any bearing on Germany's stability today) has nothing to do with my social observations about Yoruba liberal culture. It's out of context and not particularly relevant to what I'm saying and observations I've made about divisions among Igbos. Re-litigating old conflicts doesn't detract from the fact that it is not Yorubas who have an identity crisis, but Igbos. Which should beg the question why this happens among Igbos. And my social commentary has sought to bring to light some of our divisions. It's better than ridiculously claiming that Aniomas (a highly accomplished group themselves) have Igbo deniers because they somehow can't compete with us. That's a simply absurd, juvenile comment.

Thanks18:
Your observation on the bragging attitude of Anambraians is correct and you will agree with me that this is coming from large mouthed poor folks from there who saw little fortunes. You can't see such disposition from the successful elites like Peter Obi, Soludo, Achebes and Innoson etc. On the issue of Unity, i beg to disagree with you because 2015 general election proved you wrong as ndigbo demonstrated unity and one voice in rejecting PMB. Another example is during the Nigeria-Biafra war, Ndigbo displayed a united front. The major bane in Alaigbo is our political class which are divided along their selfish parochial interests and thus they have lost their influence among the masses which have queued up for IPOB.

I would agree I might have exaggerated the political disunity among Igbos. Their political problems stem from the inability to form solid alliances with other groups. I'd still stand by my cultural observations though about a tendency Igbos have to antagonize each other based on petty clannishness: especially the tendency of Anambrarians to antagonize everyone.

Ilorin and the crisis of Fulani identity



By Femi Awoniyi

In the Ilorin matter, a word is so sensitive that one side of the conflict avoids using it (See Daily Trust and Weekly Trust reports on gamji). It's a word that won't cross the lips of Emir Ibrahim Sulu-Gambari, Abubakar Olusola Saraki, Alfa Babatunde Belgore and other defenders of the status quo in the town.

The word is "Fulani". None of these men have ever come out to say: Yes, I am Fulani or that Ilorin belongs to the Fulanis. They only claim they are not Yoruba, and that the controversial town "belongs to the North".



This willful obscurantism or fuzziness of language is to mask the real issue involved, which is ethnicity in the politics of Fulani-traditionally ruled domains.



Fulanis often adopt identities (North, Muslim North, Hausa-Fulani) that they share with others and which don’t single them out in the Nigerian polity, and they employ these different identities in different contexts. The Fulani traditional rulership has constructed a social identity around Islam in such a way as to deny Hausas and other peoples in the Fulani-ruled communities an independent ethnic identity, and by so doing arrogate their political representation.



Fulani elite are no ‘mere’ actors in the Nigerian polity. They depart from the premise of a natural entitlement to power and position far greater than that of other Nigerians - and they have played a much more important role than their demographic strength would deem equitable in our politics. Fulanis have produced four rulers since independence (Ahmadu Bello (de facto), Murtala Mohammed, Muhammadu Buhari and Shehu Shagari) and have exercised considerable influence over all others, including the present one.



Is anybody aware that Tunde Idiagbon was a Fulani? Indeed, he was. Two Fulanis (head of state and his deputy) once ruled Nigeria!



Through this ingenious identity politics, Fulani leaders convey the impression that race and ethnicity don’t matter in their domains because their common religion is greater than any differences.



But race and ethnicity matter between Hutus and Tutsis in Burundi and Rwanda (even though they are both adherents of Roman Catholicism), between Arabs and Berbers in Algeria and Morocco, and between light-skinned Arabs and their dark-skinned compatriots in all of Muslim Arabia. In fact, in the Arab world, while dark-skinned people are treated like a citizenry apart, those with "Negroid" facial features among them (and there are many of them) are the underprivileged of an already underclass.



Ilorin by focusing on ethnicity in a Fulani-ruled domain threatens to bare Fulanis as actors by themselves and for themselves for the first time in independent Nigeria. And Bida is a potential Ilorin as are Kano, Zaria, Katsina and many other towns in the North.



The desperate actions of Fulani leaders over Ilorin are a sign that they recognise the dramatic nature of the agitation of the Yorubas. The Fulani elite are aware that ethno-national consciousness is the only countervailing cultural force capable of weakening religion as a binding agent in their domains, leading inevitably to a sweeping change to the popular perception of its trado-religious institution of power.



The folks kinship between Fulanis and Hausas in Kano, Katsina and Zaria, for example, is not closer than that between Fulanis and Yorubas in Ilorin. The extent of social intercourse and cultural unity among Fulani and the two peoples is very similar: intermarriage, Islam, common language and local cultural mores etc.



The utterances of people like Saraki ("I am Abubakar Olusola Saraki, but that has not made me a Yoruba man. I speak Yoruba because it is my mother's tongue"wink make nonsense of an ‘Hausa-Fulani’ identity.



That a man can claim in public, with gusto, that the fact that his biological mother comes from an ethnic group does not make him a member of that same group reveals one thing: the paternalistic, condescending attitude of Fulani elite to other peoples in their domains, a sense of cultural superiority. It is similar to the caste system in India. A child from a high-caste father and lower-caste mother defines himself by dissociating himself from his mother’s group.



The desperate behaviour of Saraki (one day, he says Ilorin is 80 percent Yoruba and the next he swears that there are not more than 1,000 of them there) can be attributed to the awareness that a politicised Yoruba ethnic consciousness will destroy his political influence in Kwara.



What ethno-nationalism in Nigeria (of which the Ilorin agitation could be considered a part) does essentially is to highlight the assignment of cultural meanings to geographical space, and associations between social identity and territoriality. A development that is unfavourable to Fulanis because of their lack of territorial heritage. They cannot lay primary or native claim to any part of Nigeria. This lack of ethno-national options could be said to be responsible for the hostile attitude of Fulani scholars to the notions of "nations" and "race" in our political discourse and their attempt to disparage claims based on ethno-national interests.



Yoruba agitators in Ilorin face a formidable adversary in Fulani elite who will stop at nothing to preserve their privileges.



Sulu-Gambari has been preparing for the resurgent Yoruba struggle right from his inception of office, convinced of its inevitability. He has married the daughter of Shehu of Bornu, co-founded the Arewa Consultative Forum, co-sponsors the Arewa People’s Congress, thereby seeking sundry allies for the final showdown.



The Fulani traditional ruler has even provoked a Muslim-Christian crisis in the town to divide his supposed subjects. He openly called for the eviction of Christians from Muslim areas in Ilorin, in July 1999, thereby causing tension between the two religious groups. This action eventually led to the riots in Oja-Gboro, a suburb of the town, where 14 churches were set ablaze by rampaging Muslim youths in December of the same year.



And, nationally, we have seen the efforts made by the Fulani elite to recover grounds it perceived to have lost since President Olusegun Obasanjo came into power and his alleged attempts to isolate them. Chief among these is the introduction and promotion of the Sharia.

Sharia amounts to clearing the deck for an aggressive reassertion of Islam as the chief agent of cultural unity in the Fulani-ruled Muslim North, in particular, and the whole Muslim North, in general.



A careful reading of the Weekly Trust and Daily Trust reports will reveal an attempt to portray the Ilorin conflict as one between Islam and ‘Idolatry’. The following quotes should suffice:



"The Ilorin Emirate Chief Forum through its secretary general, Alhaji Salihu Woru Mohammed, responded to Gani Admas threat (sic). The Forum, in a statement, said Ilorin was founded and envisioned to be a bastion of Islam, and that the emir of Ilorin symbolize (sic) the Islamic identity of all Ilorin people, including members of the Afonja family who he said have produced great Islamic scholars. To attempt the unattainable ambition to revert Ilorin to Egungun or idol worshippers is not only an insult but a blasphemy The appellation Emir simply means leader of the faithful. The ruler of Ilorin is different from Obas who are custodians of Ifa, Sanga, Agemo, etc, the statement said."


https://www.nairaland.com/515242/ilorin-crisis-fulani-identity

The Birth of Efuluefus remain the the greatest tragedy that can befall a people.

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Obi1kenobi:
Of course, someone must always come up with the emboldened nonsense about where I'm from if they don't like what I say. I started hearing it since i opposed Nnamdi Kanu's rhetoric which made me an "afonja". It's immature and only shows one up as incapable of handling opposing views. Your trolling name adopting a Yoruba handle doesn't mean everyone is like you. I've spent several years on Nairaland and I've never had time for the juvenile inter-tribal nonsense many choose to fill their existence with.

You can cherry pick news clips all you want. Every soul here except someone living in a lot of denial know Yorubas are a pretty liberal group who forge relationships that trump religious lines. It is extremely common to see Yoruba families with both Muslims and Christians due to their tolerant culture. Extremely common. This doesn't happen among any other tribe, and certainly not among Igbos. If I brought a Muslim girl home to my parents, my mum would slump with a heart attack - as would most Igbos. I know it. You know it. Why the self-deception? Neither do I understand what political differences between PDP and APC have to do with the socio-cultural divisions I'm talking about.

And yes, Ogun indigenes are the most accomplished group in Nigeria. It's the state of Awolowo, and Soyinka, and the Ransom-Kutis and Fela, and Abiola, and Obasanjo, and Mike Adenuga, and many, many more. It's my opinion. Why are you hyperventilating over it? Because you're the typical Anambra braggart I spoke about before?
Why are you saying I should name another state outside Lagos with non-indigenes as governors? The point is if there was a cosmopolitan city like Lagos in the East, it would not be ruled by a non-indigene. It's certainly less likely to happen here than it would in the SW in a political climate where Igbo states are sacking non-indigenes from fellow Igbo states.

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Trash, you said Anambra brag, but you are the one that throw out Anambra and Ogun and you expect me to swallow your fabrication hook line and sinker, when I challenge you, you will turn it Anambra braggart, but it doesn't stop me enlightening you, no state in Nigeria more accomplished than Anambra, Anambra gave Nigeria first President, Zik, Anambra gave Nigeria first elected executive Vice president Sir Alex Ekwueme, first senate president Nwafor Orizu, First Nigeria richest man Louis Ojukwu and founder of Nigeria stock exchange and first President, Anambra gave Nigeria Achebe, Chimamanda, Ikemba Ojukwu, Anambra gave Nigeria first indigenous vice chancellor Prof Kenneth Dike, first VC UI, Anambra gave Nigeria IVM first indigenous vehicle manufacturing plant, Anambra house more billionaires more than any other states in Nigeria, It's facts not fabrication or bragging, hate them, attack them, it doesn't change the fact. They are leading in trade and commere, transportation, very industrious, also one of the leading state in education, they top in states that produce more doctors, lawyers, pharmacists etc, NLNG price for literature they are the highest recipent, Anambra are by far more accomplished than Ogun, not bragging

Obi1kenobi:
I would agree I might have exaggerated the political disunity among Igbos. Their political problems stem from the inability to form solid alliances with other groups. I'd still stand by my cultural observations though about a tendency Igbos have to antagonize each other based on petty clannishness: especially the tendency of Anambrarians to antagonize everyone.

You're id.iot for hating Anamberians.

TundeBricklayer:
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Trash, you said Anambra brag, but you are the one that throw out Anambra and Ogun and you expect me to swallow your fabrication hook line and sinker, when I challenge you, you will turn it Anambra braggart, but it doesn't stop me enlightening you, no state in Nigeria more accomplished than Anambra, Anambra gave Nigeria first President, Zik, Anambra gave Nigeria first elected executive Vice president Sir Alex Ekwueme, first senate president Nwafor Orizu, First Nigeria richest man Louis Ojukwu and founder of Nigeria stock exchange and first President, Anambra gave Nigeria Achebe, Chimamanda, Ikemba Ojukwu, Anambra gave Nigeria first indigenous vice chancellor Prof Kenneth Dike, first VC UI, Anambra gave Nigeria IVM first indigenous vehicle manufacturing plant, Anambra house more billionaires more than any other states in Nigeria, It's facts not fabrication or bragging, hate them, attack them, it doesn't change the fact. They are leading in trade and commere, transportation, very industrious, also one of the leading state in education, they top in states that produce more doctors, lawyers, pharmacists etc, NLNG price for literature they are the highest recipent, Anambra are by far more accomplished than Ogun, not bragging

Plenty of fact-free empty chest-beating nonsense? Oba Otudeko alone is far richer than any Anambra billionaire, talk more of Adenuga, and you're here rambling about Innoson. The only people in that list that belong in the same sentence with Awolowo, Fela, Soyinka, Obasanjo or Abiola are Zik, Achebe and maybe Ojukwu. Again, it's my opinion that Ogun have produced the most accomplished people in the history of Nigeria. You're free to believe what you want. I don't know why your hyperventilating and foaming in the mouth about my opinion.

Obi1kenobi:
You're comparing entirely different things. State and clan parochialism exists among groups. It is worst among Igbos. As I said Bianca Ojukwu, a woman who married an Anambra man and had Anambra children had her Anambrarian identity questioned because some clowns were supporting Ifeanyi Ubah. You must also have missed the part where I said Igbos are peaceful, so what's the point telling me they don't kill themselves. That has nothing to do with Igbo unity, but a general value Igbos attach to life, unlike our Northern brethren or the oft-violent political unrests in the SW and SS. Yorubas culturally and politically are a more united bloc than Igbos. I'd consider this in realm of empirical fact when observing Nigerian socio-politics. Their institutions like their royal fathers and socio-cultural groups like Afenifere wield more influence among them and their Yoruba identity trumps their religion.

And let's stop kidding ourselves. I didn't make my observations because one or two Igbo people on here embarrass themselves. Nairaland is a big community with over a million members and in many ways is a microcosm of wider society. And Igbos here exhibit the greatest internal strife by far. More than all other groups combined. It does play out in wider Igbo interactions and it's also exhibited when Igbos are trading barbs with SS Igboid groups. Why is it that no Hausa or Yoruba groups have this identity crisis? Why always Igbos. To say it's because of "jealousy" like someone asserted earlier is exactly the problem. Ogun people are an incredibly accomplished people. I'd say they're the only state whose indigenes are more accomplished than Anambrarians. I have never in my life seen a thread where Ogun people are insulting Ekiti or Kwara or Kogi people about how superior they are. Anambrarians do it all the time to their fellow Igbos. They are well-known braggarts. And until we cure that illness of arrogance, it's going to keep reflecting poorly on us and other Igbo groups in the SS would always be wary of us.

I don't know how and where to start with this your funny write up. Strife is everywhere. I don't like poke-nosing on the affairs of others but let's start off by you explaining in details how Ogun is more accomplished by Anambra. That's where my interest is, tell me those places they are more successful than Anambra.
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BrownRoofRep:
I don't know how and where to start with this your funny write up. Strife is everywhere. I don't like poke-nosing on the affairs of others but let's start off by you explaining in details how Ogun is more accomplished by Anambra. That's where my interest is, tell me those places they are more successful than Anambra.
Waiting...

I didn't even say it to troll or offend anyone, but this Ogun tin pain una well, well.

Obi1kenobi:
Plenty of fact-free empty chest-beating nonsense? Oba Otudeko alone is far richer than any Anambra billionaire, talk more of Adenuga, and you're here rambling about Innoson. The only people in that list that belong in the same sentence with Awolowo, Fela, Soyinka, Obasanjo or Abiola are Zik, Achebe and maybe Ojukwu. Again, it's my opinion that Ogun have produced the most accomplished people in the history of Nigeria. You're free to believe what you want. I don't know why your hyperventilating and foaming in the mouth about my opinion.

Otudeko is from Oyo State, are you insinuating that Ogun indigenes are richer than Anambra counterpart?

A few billionaires vs a whole lot of billionaires is not comparable. Anambra as a state has more billionaires than any state in Nigeria. This clear fact is not even in contention.

Obi1kenobi:
I didn't even say it to troll or offend anyone, but this Ogun tin pain una well, well.

Certainly not, I've heard it somewhere, certainly from Yoruba people and here you are saying it.

Let's do head to head comparison between Ogun and Anambra. Let the facts speak not sentiment.

BrownRoofRep:
Otudeko is from Oyo State, are you insinuating that Ogun indigenes are richer than Anambra counterpart?

A few billionaires vs a whole lot of billionaires is not comparable. Anambra as a state has more billionaires than any state in Nigeria. This clear fact is not even in contention.

Oba Otudeko was born in Oyo, but is an indigene of Odogbolu in Ogun state. And he is wealthier than any Anambra billionaire talk more of Adenuga that is in a different class. You can claim as many billionaires as you want. It's empty chest-beating.

Obi1kenobi:
Oba Otudeko was born in Oyo, but is an indigene of Odogbolu in Ogun state. And he is wealthier than any Anambra billionaire talk more of Adenuga that is in a different class. You can claim as many billionaires as you want. It's empty chest-beating.

The only chest beating is see here is your empty argument.

I am not even sure Otudeko is richer than Arthur Eze. And I insist, Anambra has far more richer and accomplished people than Ogun state.

Instead of dodging the question let's start from the basic. You said Ogun state indigenes are more accomplished than Anambra, in terms of what?
Sports?
Education?
Politics?
Economy?
Technology?
I challenge you to name one outstanding Ogun indigene and I will name three Anambra in that aspect.

Let's begin.

BrownRoofRep:
The only chest beating is see here is your empty argument.

I am not even sure Otudeko is richer than Arthur Eze. And I insist, Anambra has far more richer and accomplished people than Ogun state.

Instead of dodging the question let's start from the basic. You said Ogun state indigenes are more accomplished than Anambra, in terms of what?
Sports?
Education?
Politics?
Economy?
Technology?
I challenge you to name one outstanding Ogun indigene and I will name three Anambra in that aspect.

Let's begin.

You can insist whatever you like. You're just delusional.
Sports? They've produced Anthony Joshua.
Politics? They've produced Nigeria's finest political mind in Awolowo, and 2 elected Presidents in Abiola and Obasanjo.
Education? They've produced the only Nigerian, or even black Nobel prize winner (not counting the Peace prize) in the world.
I'm not even sure what you mean by economy or technology. They have richer industrialists for sure and Ogun state is Nigeria's industrial capital. Your reaction here is exactly why Anambrarians need to be cut to size. Such a bunch of noisemaking, loudmouth chestbeaters.

Obi1kenobi:
You can insist whatever you like. You're just delusional.
Sports? They've produced Anthony Joshua.
Politics? They've produced Nigeria's finest political mind in Awolowo, and 2 elected Presidents in Abiola and Obasanjo.
Education? They've produced the only Nigerian, or even black Nobel prize winner (not counting the Peace prize) in the world.
I'm not even sure what you mean by economy or technology. They have richer industrialists for sure and Ogun state is Nigeria's industrial capital. Your reaction here is exactly why Anambrarians need to be cut to size. Such a bunch of noisemaking, loudmouth chestbeaters.

Actually you are the one crying round, whining about Anambra as if Anambra man is fvcking your wife. You were crying all over Anambra thread like a lost soul.

Anthony Joshua is not a Nigerian, I am talking about Nigerians.
Awolowo in comparison with Zik is madness, even street tout won't dare and here you are reasoning from your retarde.d skull. Not surprised though, you called your self a troll.

In terms of Literature the world knows China's work and rated as one of the greatest on earth. Name Soyinka's popular work. Literature is not hyped celebrity nonsense, you are rated by your work not skewed political award. I won't be stupid enough to compare Chinua with Wole, even Chimamanda Adichie works shit on him all days.
I don't want to mention Cyprian Ekwensi of African night entertainment.

Let me not even border going to Prof Chike Obi and Philip Emeagwali.

Seems you are below the sea level to inform yourself. Most of these factories are owned by who?
Best cable in Nigeria Curtix destroyed all cables makers in Nigeria - technology.
Should I go on Mr troll?

BrownRoofRep:
Actually you are the one crying round, whining about Anambra as if Anambra man is fvcking your wife. You were crying all over Anambra thread like a lost soul.

Anthony Joshua is not a Nigerian, I am talking about Nigerians.
Awolowo in comparison with Zik is madness, even street tout won't dare and here you are reasoning from your retarde.d skull. Not surprised though, you called your self a troll.

In terms of Literature the world knows China's work and rated as one of the greatest on earth. Name Soyinka's popular work. Literature is not hyped celebrity nonsense, you are rated by your work not skewed political award. I won't be stupid enough to compare Chinua with Wole, even Chimamanda Adichie works shit on him all days.
I don't want to mention Cyprian Ekwensi of African night entertainment.

Let me not even border going to Prof Chike Obi and Philip Emeagwali.

Seems you are below the sea level to inform yourself. Most of these factories are owned by who?
Best cable in Nigeria Curtix destroyed all cables makers in Nigeria - technology.
Should I go on Mr troll?

Please, don't. I've read enough to know when I'm wasting my time with a delusional comedian.

Obi1kenobi:
Please, don't. I've read enough to know when I'm wasting my time with a delusional comedian.

... And a troll, straightforward introduction.

aniomafirstson:
lol
I had to correct that statement of yours saying aniomas deny being Igbo because they can't compete with SE.
lol that statement made me lmao because you know what the truth is. Is it in football,business,politics or where?

By the way underground works are ongoing among we pro-igbos of anioma. I'm sure you heard okowa's speech but people like you would gladly ignore the likes of okowa and co but rant about the likes of esogbue and that is my problem with you lots from SE.

[b]Also we have this problem where an Igbo from SE rejects his brother just because the said brother is from the SS. Many SS igbo face this discrimination. [/b]You should deal with that problem also pazienza.

Also I want you to visit the (Igbo bu Igbo) Facebook group then tell me how you'd feel as an Igbo from SS reading comments from that group.

I respect you a lot even though there are some places we have some disagreement.

Mbene.

@bolded, he wasn't wrong to reject unless he wants to take nonsense and insult...

I don't give breathing space.

In old university days one of them from delta sees me as wicked and cold hearted......even that he is igbo and I made it known to him that he is nott an igboman....time has pass for such history...

We need set record striaght.....


They were never part of us and shouldn't be now.

Obi1kenobi:
Oba Otudeko was born in Oyo, but is an indigene of Odogbolu in Ogun state. And he is wealthier than any Anambra billionaire talk more of Adenuga that is in a different class. You can claim as many billionaires as you want. It's empty chest-beating.

Mentioning Oba Otudeko whose networth is US$550 million shows you know little about Anambra
Go and check networth of these folks from Anambra
Arthur Eze networth is US$ 5.8 billion, his company Oranto Petroleum is Africa’s largest privately owned exploration and production companies. The company owns 22 oil and gas licenses in 11 jurisdictions, including producing assets in Nigeria and Equatorial Guinea.

Google Emeka Offor his networth is US$ 5.8 billion, Google Chrome energy, his is executive chairman of Kaztec Engineering Ltd,Kaztec engineering investing over $1billion to expand it's fabrication capacity as the biggest in nigeria and build the largest shipyard in conjunction with chinese largest shipbuilder, he is the chairman of EEDC and ERHC.

Google Cletus Ibeto owner of Ibeto group, his net worth is estimated at $3.7 billion

Do research on ABC Orjiakor, ABC Orjiako is the Chairman and co-founder of SEPLAT, a leading Nigerian independent oil and gas company listed on the London and Nigerian stock exchanges with a strategic focus in the Niger Delta of Nigeria. He established and managed various companies in the upstream, downstream and service sectors of the oil and gas industry in Nigeria. These include Abbeycourt Trading Company Limited, Abbeycourt Energy Services Limited, Zebbra Energy Limited and Shebah Exploration and Production Company Limited. He also has other business interests in construction, real estate development, pharmaceuticals and shipping. Afren Tower Eko Atlantic, was acquired by Orjiakor making him the first occupant of Eko Atlantic City.

Do more research on:

Ernest Azudialor nestoil group

Uju Ifejika Chairman/Chief Executive Officer - Brittania-U , the only woman to become chair and CEO of an Upstream E&P Company in Nigeria.

Allen Onyema owner of Airpeace leading and biggest airline in Nigeria who recently spent $1.13billion to acquire 10 latest Boeing 737 MAX aircraft making his aircraft 39 aircrafts. Google Emeka Okwosa Oilserv, Coscharies, Capita oil and many others billionaires from Anambra, Ogun can't be compare to Anambra in accomplishment.

TundeBricklayer:
Mentioning Oba Otudeko whose networth is US$550 million shows you know little about Anambra
Go and check networth of these folks from Anambra
Arthur Eze networth is US$ 5.8 billion, his company Oranto Petroleum is Africa’s largest privately owned exploration and production companies. The company owns 22 oil and gas licenses in 11 jurisdictions, including producing assets in Nigeria and Equatorial Guinea.

Google Emeka Offor his networth is US$ 5.8 billion, Google Chrome energy, his is executive chairman of Kaztec Engineering Ltd,Kaztec engineering investing over $1billion to expand it's fabrication capacity as the biggest in nigeria and build the largest shipyard in conjunction with chinese largest shipbuilder, he is the chairman of EEDC and ERHC.

Google Cletus Ibeto owner of Ibeto group, his net worth is estimated at $3.7 billion

Do research on ABC Orjiakor, ABC Orjiako is the Chairman and co-founder of SEPLAT, a leading Nigerian independent oil and gas company listed on the London and Nigerian stock exchanges with a strategic focus in the Niger Delta of Nigeria. He established and managed various companies in the upstream, downstream and service sectors of the oil and gas industry in Nigeria. These include Abbeycourt Trading Company Limited, Abbeycourt Energy Services Limited, Zebbra Energy Limited and Shebah Exploration and Production Company Limited. He also has other business interests in construction, real estate development, pharmaceuticals and shipping. Afren Tower Eko Atlantic, was acquired by Orjiakor making him the first occupant of Eko Atlantic City.

Do more research on:

Ernest Azudialor nestoil group

Uju Ifejika Chairman/Chief Executive Officer - Brittania-U , the only woman to become chair and CEO of an Upstream E&P Company in Nigeria.

Allen Onyema owner of Airpeace leading and biggest airline in Nigeria who recently spent $1.13billion to acquire 10 latest Boeing 737 MAX aircraft making his aircraft 39 aircrafts. Google Emeka Okwosa Oilserv, Coscharies, Capita oil and many others billionaires from Anambra, Ogun can't be compare to Anambra in accomplishment.


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Obi1kenobi:
You can insist whatever you like. You're just delusional.
Sports? They've produced Anthony Joshua.
Politics? They've produced Nigeria's finest political mind in Awolowo, and 2 elected Presidents in Abiola and Obasanjo.
even sure what you mean by economy or technology. They have richer industrialists for sure and Ogun state is Nigeria's industrial capital. Your reaction here is exactly why Anambrarians need to be cut to size. Such a bunch of noisemaking, loudmouth chestbeaters.

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The guy has lived in the South West all his life and has been successfully brainwashed by yerubus to believe his own people are lesser.