Cjrane2:
I view with heavy suspicion the recent barrage of attacks on various Igbo groups in this fora. I was one of those that begged Spyder to use his good influences to create this thread to enable us share ground shaking ideas to take advantage of our small sized region and develop it very fast through implementing feasible plans that can only come from a gathering of great minds in a platform as this. Some faceless person has been creating multiple monikers to make this thread an avenue of hate and Igbo disunity. The exact opposite intention for it's creation. My question is what is the intention of this wicked individual and why is he so terrified about Igbos rising again in Nigeria?

My biggest surprise isn't that what he is trying to create here happened, because i know nincompoops always existed in every family, but how some erudite members of the forum swallowed his deceit hook line and sinker.

The question on my mind is their game plan?? Now that it appears the SE is again moving into mainstream national politics. Whose interest is it to have SE remain a marginalized minority in Nigeria?? They know the only way to make a majority tribe become a minority is to break them up into fragments. Then create nonsense for them to keep squabbling about, while their share of Nigeria's wealth is shared amongst others who are not even as populous as Igbo. They did it in the past when they feared so called "Igbo domination". Why are they so frantic again to pull Igbos down??

I leave you to ponder on the immortal words of the Awka Declaration of our People. "Never Again" shall we play the games of our enemies and become willing tools of our own misfortune in their hands.Fighting ourselves needlessly like jackals, while they share our commonwealth amongst themselves.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjjzcfOEYqY

i hope u are not talking about me. I have been vocal about ikwerre and anioma being igbo...but everywhere i turn, i see an ikwerre or anioma idiot who has something negative to say about us. How can i keep ignoring them without looking desperate. Even without ss igbos, plus even without the millions of igbos outside SE, we are still a large people.

If not for the biafran dream, why do we need ss igbos? They are the one who need us. The only way a ss igbo can attain national position in nigeria is if we are supporting him...but we from SE can attain national position without them. Nobody sees them without seeing us. Nobody sees uche secundus or ifeanyi okowa without seeing igbo...but we can show ourselves without showing them. Let them be the one to look for us.

This Ikwerre topic sef. The time wasted spent on arguing discussing this Ikwerre topic could honestly have been better spent doing other things.

When it comes to doing an analysis of one's situation, the most reasonable analysis model is one that first satisfies conservative constraints. For the sake of the discussion, I'd say that it is reasonable to state that one such conservative constraint is that PH will not be available for any initiative.

Haa Iwhereoha.

Cjrane I didn't understand your point well but if your point is about the Ikwerre we are discussing then you are wrong.


What the larger Igbos from SE are saying is that we will no longer accept an Ikwerre and Some other group that denies Igbo to come all of a sudden to claim Igbo just to get a position in the Govt..


We have been used many times by these people we are not fools, just because we want our brothers to come in the fold shouldn't make us to look like fools.

Bede2u:
begining from this thread, we must reach a concensus here that ikwerre is not igbo. If it means coming down hard on anybody who says so here. Many igbos follow this thread. We must use it to carefully sow the seed of discord btw igbo and ikwerre. Lets see who will blink 1st

If we do our duty here right, it will snowball to the outter igbo society to hate ikwerre without reason

I don't agree with you. It will have a boomerang effect.

This was the same thing you guys did to Igbos in delta whereby they accused you guys of denying them their Igboness. Not all of them agrees with what some handful ika are saying. You almost hardened their resolve against identifying with their larger igbo kins.I won't be a party to it.

Stop wasting your precious time and energy. If I see an ikwerre who has proven to be Igbo all along, then I won't reject him.

Ikwerre accepting or rejecting their igboness is inconsequential to me. Leave them with their identity crisis. Those who identify with us will be identified with, and those who reject us will be rejected as well.

Another thing we are saying is that PH is not an Igbo city, the Ikwerre and Ijaw are the owner their Air-port is not ours so anybody siting a project for Igbos must site else-where in the SE not PH.


We have Enugu a recognized Igbo city we are saying that Enugu Air-port should be upgraded with more infrastructure just like that of other regions.


Any Igbo man buying land an building mansion in PH should be left alone when the consequence starts.

Bede2u:
begining from this thread, we must reach a concensus here that ikwerre is not igbo. If it means coming down hard on anybody who says so here. Many igbos follow this thread. We must use it to carefully sow the seed of discord btw igbo and ikwerre. Lets see who will blink 1st

If we do our duty here right, it will snowball to the outter igbo society to hate ikwerre without reason

It wouldn't be without reason. It's the right thing to hate those who hate your group.

Bede2u:
i hope u are not talking about me. I have been vocal about ikwerre and anioma being igbo...but everywhere i turn, i see an ikwerre or anioma idiot who has something negative to say about us. How can i keep ignoring them without looking desperate. Even without ss igbos, plus even without the millions of igbos outside SE, we are still a large people.

If not for the biafran dream, why do we need ss igbos? They are the one who need us. The only way a ss igbo can attain national position in nigeria is if we are supporting him...but we from SE can attain national position without them. Nobody sees them without seeing us. Nobody sees uche secundus or ifeanyi okowa without seeing igbo...but we can show ourselves without showing them. Let them be the one to look for us.

As for me, ikwerre being or not being Igbo is inconsequential to me. If the ikwerre identifies as Igbo, I will identify with him. But if he rejects being Igbo then I reject him too as well. NO HARD FEELINGS. Despite knowing their Igbo heritage, I won't go begging them to be Igbo.

However, i still have a friend of mine from diobu who keeps ringing it in my ears that his father tells them that they are unapologetic Igbos along with obiokpor, ndoki, Asa, who all share similar dialects with communities in abia south.

So pls, I won't reject ALL ikwerre. Never. I will treat them as Igbo on an individual level, but as a people, I consider them IGBOID because of their identity crisis.

BudgIT exposes 17 states owing salaries, pensions despite N1.8trillion bailout

BudgIT has again raised alarm that some states are yet to fully offset the outstanding amount owed pensioners and civil servants despite series of N1.8trillion bailouts.


BudgIT is a civic organization that uses tech tools to simplify the budget and public spending to raise the standard of transparency and accountability in government.

On Sunday, Ayomide Faleye, BudgIT head of communication, released a report of a recently conducted survey aimed at ascertaining the frequency and magnitude of challenges civil servants and pensioners are encountering.


The report sent to DAILY POST explained that the survey focused on three categories of workers in all 36 states – primary and secondary school teachers, midwives and secretariat workers – while attention was paid to ascertain if retirees level were receiving pensions as at when due.

Faleye said BudgIT discovered that 12 states are yet to offset the amount owed secondary school teachers fully and that many states are threatening workers to keep the information away from public domain.

The report reads: “Notable among states with outstanding liabilities to secondary teachers is Osun and Kogi state.


“Osun State has been paying secondary school teachers above level 8 only a fraction of their salaries and entitlement for the last 30 months.

“Cumulatively, Osun state is owing secondary school teachers above level 8 about 15 months salary.

“Other states with outstanding liabilities to states include Abia, Benue, Bayelsa, Kwara, Imo, Ekiti, Oyo, Ondo and Zamfara.

“Kogi State, for instance, is owing teachers about 13 months salaries according to the response given by secondary school teachers during the survey.

“Midwives, whose responsibility includes attending to issues around pregnancy, childbirth, postpartum, women’s sexual and reproductive health and newborn care – are also bugged down by issues including failure of some state to pay salaries and emolument as at when due.

“Midwives were questioned during the survey across the 36 states. BudgIT discovered that 10 states are owing midwives salaries as at close of business on September 24, 2018.

“Delta, Imo, Abia, Osun, Plateau, Bayelsa, Ekiti and 11 other states owe Pensioners entitlement ranging from 1 month to 36 months.

“Almost all pensioners expressed how unhappy they are, their dissatisfaction with the government and how hard it has been for them to survive despite years of hard work up into service

“BudgIT hereby ask States to offset outstanding liabilities to its workers and pensioners as funds in form of bailout estimated to be in the region of N1.8 trillion have been issues to states to offset all outstanding liabilities owe workers.

Ikwerre is not igbo and beginning a campaign in Facebook. Build on ph at ur own peril.. They ave thought us that speaking igbo does not make one igbo.we will treat them like that

ghostfacekillar:
Ikwerre is not igbo and beginning a campaign in Facebook. Build on ph at ur own peril.. They ave thought us that speaking igbo does not make one igbo.we will treat them like that

They don't speak Igbo. They speak Ikwerri - a poor imitation.

Curlieweed:


They don't speak Igbo. They speak Ikwerri - a poor imitation.

dats true my broda. Nonsense
Make i enter Facebook self start my campaign. This is something every here who is pro igbo should start doing..

pazienza:


Nothing at all.

Problem is IPOB members, who are ready to roll on the mud and receive every sought of insolence from these minority groups, in the name of building a phantom Biafra with them. They disgust me, and I hate them for doing such. It belittles and tarnishes the dignity of the rest of us. These lots must be warned and advised to stop such disgraceful begging already.

IPOB is considering ALL of the old eastern region for REFERENDUM. it is the referendum that determines who is or who isn't.

You are misinterpreting IPOB. I know them too well.

pazienza:


Ikwerre people are Bini descendants. Ndiigbo are not.
So, I don't know what same ethnic branch you speak of.

By the way, longest time. We no dey see your brake light for Obodo nairaland again.

with all due respect, stop insulting the IGBO race. You sound like one who is confused whether he's Igbo or not! I guess you have never lived in the north if not you won't be saying these, many serious people are working to unite the Igbo race and you're here causing division! Any Igbo man who choses to identify with the larger Igbo race should not cast out, the only reason I'd let you do that is when his motives are for political reasons and nothing more! Please unity is the power, have a good morning..

ghostfacekillar:
dats true my broda. Nonsense
Make i enter Facebook self start my campaign. This is something every here who is pro igbo should start doing..

I am pro-igbo but am not with you.

I don't do things that way.

superlightning:


IPOB is considering ALL of the old eastern region for REFERENDUM. it is the referendum that determines who is or who isn't.

You are misinterpreting IPOB. I know them too well.

It will be a futile adventure, see by the time we start seeing Biafra as the 5 SE states and some parts of SS who may like to join the Republic the better for us, in the heat of the Biafra agitation in 2016, what did the minority in SS do? they started calling for Niger-delta Republic with so much hate against Igbos, Their facebook posts are there for you to see and verify.

GuyWise:

It will be a futile adventure, see by the time we start seeing Biafra as the 5 SE states and some parts of SS who may like to join the Republic the better for us, in the heat of the Biafra agitation in 2016, what did the minority in SS do? they started calling for Niger-delta Republic with so much hate against Igbos, Their facebook posts are there for you to see and verify.

I am aware of all you have said. You are right, But let them use their hands to officially remove themselves from the old biafran map via referendum. That's the game plan IPOB has.

You know why? Tomorrow some may claim that those who spoke weren't speaking for them.

I have read the last five or six pages of this thread and it confirms my issues with the Igbos. Hatred.

Even if the PDP picked an Igbo for a vice-president, every other region will all afraid of you. Funnily enough when it comes to violence, the Northerners have prove to be more violent that you all. Una issue is your mouth and pride. Politics required foresight and the Igbos lack it.

Forget the Vice-president because your hatred spare headed by Kanu is still recent in the heart of other Nigerians. Focus on the next four years when both parties will present a southern candidates if the PDP loses. In the mean time, reduce your hatred.

Why am I doing all this? I have a friend who's father is Igbo and who's mother is Yoruba. He will be president in the next four years. But how can he be President when his kinsmen are playing kindergarten politics. Stop hating other tribes publicly. Stop poisoning your people with hatred.

superlightning:


I am pro-igbo but am not with you.

I don't do things that way.

i entered that group and almost cried to see them cursing igbo... Their air is polluted.they seat on wealth but nothing to show for it. They rather collect 65 ooo monthly stipend than fight their oppressots. Let them continue deceiving themselves

frankfrancis871:
with all due respect, stop insulting the IGBO race. You sound like one who is confused whether he's Igbo or not! I guess you have never lived in the north if not you won't be saying these, many serious people are working to unite the Igbo race and you're here causing division! Any Igbo man who choses to identify with the larger Igbo race should not cast out, the only reason I'd let you do that is when his motives are for political reasons and nothing more! Please unity is the power, have a good morning..

talk is cheap. Go there and see for urself

GuyWise:
Cjrane I didn't understand your point well but if your point is about the Ikwerre we are discussing then you are wrong.


What the larger Igbos from SE are saying is that we will no longer accept an Ikwerre and Some other group that denies Igbo to come all of a sudden to claim Igbo just to get a position in the Govt..


We have been used many times by these people we are not fools, just because we want our brothers to come in the fold shouldn't make us to look like fools.

I support the @bolded and I support the unification of the IGBO race from Igbos from Enugu, Anambra, middle belt, delta, Ebonyi etc to cameroun to equatorial guinea.

ghostfacekillar:
i entered that group and almost cried to see them cursing igbo... Their air is polluted.they seat on wealth but nothing to show for it. They rather collect 65 ooo monthly stipend than fight their oppressots. Let them continue deceiving themselves

The reason why you won't curse them back is because you are more socially evolved than them, and they know this.

Just show them that they are inconsequential. That their curses or rants does not reduce an inch of your greatness.

Do you how many people all over the world who are proud to be identified with ndigbo?

Cursing this other ones back will bring you DOWN TO THEIR SOCIAL LEVEL....BELIEVE ME, I have been there once.

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luvmijeje:
I have read the last five or six pages of this thread and it confirms my issues with the Igbos. Hatred.
Even if the PDP picked an Igbo for a vice-president, every other region will all afraid of you. Funnily enough when it comes to violence, the Northerners have prove to be more violent that you all. Una issue is your mouth and pride. Politics required foresight and the Igbos lack it.
Forget the Vice-president because your hatred spare headed by Kanu is still recent in the heart of other Nigerians. Focus on the next four years when both parties will present a southern candidates if the PDP loses. In the mean time, reduce your hatred.
Why am I doing all this? I have a friend who's father is Igbo and who's mother is Yoruba. He will be president in the next four years. But how can he be President when his kinsmen are playing kindergarten politics. Stop hating other tribes publicly.p poisoning your peoh hatred.

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Carry your nonsense go give fellow Afonjas.

frankfrancis871:
I support the @bolded and I support the unification of the IGBO race from Igbos from Enugu, Anambra, middle belt, delta, Ebonyi etc to cameroun to equatorial guinea.

I am with you. Our decentralized system of government in the ancient times is causing these side effects of igboid groups misbehaving. In Nigeria politics of today, anything for Igbo should considered FIRST in the SE before scanning IGBO communities in SS.

superlightning:


The reason why you won't curse them back is because you are more socially evolved than them, and they know this.

Just show them that they are inconsequential. That their curses or rants does not reduce an inch of your greatness.

Do you how many people all over the world who are proud to be identified with ndigbo?

Cursing this other ones back will bring you DOWN TO THEIR SOCIAL LEVEL....BELIEVE ME, I have been there once.

but at least we should campaign to avoid them... Cut any relationship with them and allow them be

luvmijeje:
I have read the last five or six pages of this thread and it confirms my issues with the Igbos. Hatred.

Even if the PDP picked an Igbo for a vice-president, every other region will all afraid of you. Funnily enough when it comes to violence, the Northerners have prove to be more violent that you all. Una issue is your mouth and pride. Politics required foresight and the Igbos lack it.

Forget the Vice-president because your hatred spare headed by Kanu is still recent in the heart of other Nigerians. Focus on the next four years when both parties will present a southern candidates if the PDP loses. In the mean time, reduce your hatred.

Why am I doing all this? I have a friend who's father is Igbo and who's mother is Yoruba. He will be president in the next four years. But how can he be President when his kinsmen are playing kindergarten politics. Stop hating other tribes publicly. Stop poisoning your people with hatred.

If you know what it is to be Igbo in an igbophobic society you won't be vomitting all these things you are saying.

I personally don't believe in hating back. But igbophobia has made igbo bitter too. Stop barking at the wrong tree.

Go and talk to your people and their northern allies. Stop preaching to us here.

ghostfacekillar:
but at least we should campaign to avoid them... Cut any relationship with them and allow them be

Yes, but also make an extra room in your heart for genuiene ones who identify with you.

Igbo domination is the imaginary fear that keeps dooming Nigeria.

ghostfacekillar:
but at least we should campaign to avoid them... Cut any relationship with them and allow them be

Don't waste time on those guys. They're not worth the time or effort.

It's too tangential to waste time on.

WE have much bigger fish to fry.

There are many eminent PDP members across the
country who are qualified for the role but
discussions with top PDP apparatchiks at the venue
of the just-concluded PDP National Convention
revealed that the front runners for the position of
Vice Presidential candidate are Otunba Gbenga
Daniel (OGD), Governor Nyesom Wike, former
Governor Peter Obi, Dr Ngozi Okonjo Iweala,
Govornors Seriake Dickson of Bayelsa State and
Ayodele Fayose of Ekiti State.


https://www.businesspost.ng/2018/10/08/ogd-
dickson-iweala-fayose-others-make-atikus-vp-list/

so it's either NOI or peter obi

HopeAtHand:


You are a coward, that is the reason you dare not express how hurt you feel when your Ikwerre relatives deride Igbos in your presence. You laugh over it while feeling terribly pained within. He he he.

Truly, I don't understand how people get married to Igbo women and then make their kids hate or have a shocking disdain for the tribe of their mother. And live like its nothing.

I empathise with all those in Abagworos shoes. But it is pertinent to observe critically that Ikwerres do not resent the Igbo's for nothing. Ikwerres did not just wake and suddenly elected to hate Igbos. What you see your see and feel from us is just the reaction to an earlier action by Igbos committed during the defunct eastern regional govt.

C'mon pazienza et al, things are not that bad. We all fell from the same ethnic branch afterall.

I've listened to all the accusations but none can be substantiated with evidence. What Igbos are accused of doing is not limited to Ikwerre but also within Southeast and every other part of the world where competence and popularity supercedes quota.

superlightning:


If you know what it is to be Igbo in an igbophobic society you won't be vomitting all these things you are saying.

I personally don't believe in hating back. But igbophobia has made igbo bitter too. Stop barking at the wrong tree.

Go and talk to your people and their northern allies. Stop preaching to us here.

Do you need to reply every reta.rd that makes an incoherent comment?

The ideas expressed are not even original. Just the same nonsense they share in their m0ronic echo chamber.

Hate, hate, hate and NK. No mention of Adeyinka Grandson and other apostles of love.

iLoveAnambra:
the truth is that Jonathan Marginalised them..thats the simple truth..

Tinubu planned with his brothers in the House of rep not to vote for Yoruba man to a speaker so that it will look like GEJ marginalised them Completely...

LET ME ASK U IF IGBO GOT ANY POSITION IN THE LAST 4 YEARS IN MILITARY OR NASS OR PARASATAL?


WHY ARE IGBO NOT SO BITTER AS THE YORUBA?