Lol

U just have to be careful when typing some words cos it might be someone's moniker

See the fella above me

mehn e be like sey afrodoc dey work commenteries for npfl ooooo, see names abeg

Excallibur:
abeg where those guys they play ball abeg abi na nigerian league players

In truth, I am familiar with some of those names. Ikedia, Stanley Okoro, Gael Kakuta, Okorowanta, Furo Iyenemi, phillip Osondu and Manga Mohammed.

With the exception of Kakuta who is French, most of these guys either received invitations to the senior team or were fringe players of the senior national team, others played at cadet levels (Golden Eaglets, U-23).

Greatihex:
i thought you would have brought facts to dispute my claims.

I don't know of hazard's chance creation to that of messi in recent seasons, but i do know that during Mourinho's first two seasons at Chelsea, hazard came first and second respectively for chance creation in europe.

He was second only to payet in the second season and i am not sure that messi has ever topped the chance creation since then. Other players have topped that.

This is to prove to you that messi does not do Everything better than everyother player

i don't have time to be digging through the net but here it is

Greatihex:
i thought you would have brought facts to dispute my claims.

I don't know of hazard's chance creation to that of messi in recent seasons, but i do know that during Mourinho's first two seasons at Chelsea, hazard came first and second respectively for chance creation in europe.

He was second only to payet in the second season and i am not sure that messi has ever topped the chance creation since then. Other players have topped that.

This is to prove to you that messi does not do Everything better than everyother player

do you also want to check their assist stats? what of pass completion rates? y'all should just focus on the Hazard Vs Neymar debate coz as ridiculous as that sounds, its better to sound ridiculous than to sound dumb

Coutinho14:
mehn e be like sey afrodoc dey work commenteries for npfl ooooo, see names abeg

Afrodoc dey show una say UNA NO KNOW BALL!

Coutinho14:
i don't have time to be digging through the net but here it is

chai!!! These barca fans!!

You just confirmed for us with this your post that hazard has created more chances than Messi since he became a professional footballer.

For your info, hazard became a first team regular in 2009/2010 season. Compare it to that of messi.



Barca fans and ignorance.

Some people are SAN without certificate. Una weldon.

Ibime:


Afrodoc dey show una say UNA NO KNOW BALL PLAYERS!

Coutinho14:
mehn e be like sey afrodoc dey work commenteries for npfl ooooo, see names abeg

No my guy. Was just listing guys that Nihilist agreed could possibly be as good as Hazard under Sarri.

Players with Hazard’s talent level like Bobolayefa Edon, Uwem Ekarika, and Kwesi Bonsu.

We have all agreed now that if they played under Sarri they may be as good if not better than Hazard.

pkasso:
You no dey OK. I'm still sticking to what I said. Abeg, is Isco the main man at Real as Hazard is at Chelsea?

Why is he not a main man? Isco is Hazard-wannabe.

Greatihex:
chai!!! These barca fans!!

You just confirmed for us with this your post that hazard has created more chances than Messi since he became a professional footballer.

For your info, hazard became a first team regular in 2009/2010 season. Compare it to that of messi.



Barca fans and ignorance.

Only Messi...

You compare his dribbling ability with Hazard's

His passing with De Bruyne's

And his goal scoring with Ronaldo's...

Only Messi... Basically a three-in-one player

airmark:


Why is he not a main man? Isco is Hazard-wannabe.

So you expect Isco to be the main man for where Ororo dey? You dey hear yourself?

Coutinho14:
do you also want to check their assist stats? what of pass completion rates? y'all should just focus on the Hazard Vs Neymar debate coz as ridiculous as that sounds, its better to sound ridiculous than to sound dumb

Shekpites are a funny lot. Tell them to bring up the most relevant stats; goals and assists, dem no fit. Na to dey shout takeons completed, Chances created and PL and Whoscored MOTM awards Imagine!

Hazard doesn't even have up to half of Messi's assists, and he is brnging up chances created.

There is pretty much nothing Hazard does better than Messi.

This thread is comedic gold. I will show my kids someday

pkasso:

Shekpites are a funny lot. Tell them to bring up the most relevant stats; goals and assists, dem no fit. Na to dey shout takeons completed, Chances created and PL and Whoscored MOTM awards Imagine!

Hazard doesn't even have up to half of Messi's assists, and he is brnging up chances created.

There is pretty much nothing Hazard does better than Messi.

Which is funny when we consider "take-ons" have 2 subunits- successful and unsuccessful. It was not stated. Voodoo stats. He brought 2017 news in 2018. Intellectual dishonesty. Then concluded that chances created is that much to look at. Meanwhile, if a player pulls out, makes a cross, drills a pass as long as it is into the box, it will be recorded as "chance created".

Here, a player with 500+ more goals, 250+ more assists, more dribbles, awards, trophies for a far longer time over another player that is not even a generational talent.

The difference between arguably the greatest player of all times and someone who is yet to top Adebayor's 2007/08 or even Fabregas' 2009/10 season in efficiency or numbers.

I am in shock.

Na Nihilist I blame for all these rubbish. Na im start all this madness.

We actually went from discussing Hazard vs Neymar to Hazard vs Messi

pkasso:
Na Nihilist I blame for all these rubbish. Na im start all this madness.

We actually went from discussing Hazard vs Neymar to Hazard vs Messi

I blame the afrodocs.

who the hell is waheed akanni?

Greatihex:
chai!!! These barca fans!!

You just confirmed for us with this your post that hazard has created more chances than Messi since he became a professional footballer.

For your info, hazard became a first team regular in 2009/2010 season. Compare it to that of messi.



Barca fans and ignorance.

you keep displaying your ignorance on a public forum, I'll keep exposing it. so when people say cr7 has more career goals than Messi, do they also tell you that he's played over 150 matches more? that he's 2 years older? that he started playing pro football before Messi? when these things comes to Messi then it becomes irrelevant abi? seems like the lack of talented attackers in Chelsea over the years has made y'all forget what a great attacker looks like, someone that posts less than ten assists per season is being compared to a man that averages 30 - 35 assists each season playing from a midfield position. the fact that you're still making this argument reinforces my claims that most Chelsea fans are ignorant, those ones that shout the most at a viewing center. let madrid come and sign hazard na let us see, shebi it's by takeons completed abi? you have Messi's talent level and Barça and Madrid aren't interested in signing you, you are still a Chelsea player(no disrespect to the club) at the age of 27.



the difference between Hazard and Zaha is the number to takeons completed as both posts the same number of goals per season

pkasso:
So you expect Isco to be the main man for where Ororo dey? You dey hear yourself?

Is he the main man now? Was he even auxiliary man when ororo dey? His inconsistency won't make him any main man in any big team whether ororo or palm oil dey or not.

nihilistjnr:


I blame the afrodocs.

who the hell is waheed akanni?

Moscow 85 set. He was actually a defender but he and Wasiu Ipaye had Hazard's talent level. That set was highly touted to do well in football.

I could have mentioned Monday Odiaka, Osaro Obabaifo, Samson Siasia, and Ndubuisi Okosieme but they all had more talent than Hazard. What failed them was mentality.

Eruditor:


Which is funny when we consider "take-ons" have 2 subunits- successful and unsuccessful. It was not stated. Voodoo stats. He brought 2017 news in 2018. Intellectual dishonesty. Then concluded that chances created is that much to look at. Meanwhile, if a player pulls out, makes a cross, drills a pass as long as it is into the box, it will be recorded as "chance created".

Here, a player with 500+ more goals, 250+ more assists, more dribbles, awards, trophies for a far longer time over another player that is not even a generational talent.

The difference between arguably the greatest player of all times and someone who is yet to top Adebayor's 2007/08 or even Fabregas' 2009/10 season in efficiency or numbers.

I am in shock.

the thing is annoying af, one season with Liverpool and salah already played a ucl final but it's supporting cast that's hazard's problem. no single ucl winner in that Liverpool team but yet salah took them to the finals, a team that has milner, Karius, wijinachum or whatever is his name, Gomez and co. what's the difference between Hazard and salah sef? because heaven knows I will take salah ahead of hazard, I won't pay 100 mill for a player that has 8 ucl career goals and whose greatest achievement is 2 premier league titles



the difference between Hazard and Salah is that Hazard is 27 and Salah is 26

airmark:


Is he the main man now? Was he even auxiliary man when ororo dey? His inconsistency won't make him any main man in any big team whether ororo or palm oil dey or not.

Is there any standout best player at Real Madrid currently? Even the supposed best player in the world Modric is on the same level as Kroos, Marcelo and Ramos.

Under Lopetegui's Spain, Isco was the best player. Why? Because he had a manager who trusted him enough to hand him the freedom and license to do whatever he wanted. It's no news that Zidane wasn't as much a big fan of Isco. The same thing happened to James. And we all saw how James beasted under Heynckes.

Even at that, Isco still did enough for Zidane to pick him, even over Bale at times. He certainly wasn't a passenger when they won the CL last season.

It's like these people are getting it wrong.


No one is saying hazard is better than Messi...
Having same talent or pattern of play as Messi doesn't necessarily mean that he is better than Messi... Zaha might have same talent or pattern of play as hazard but that doesn't mean he is better than hazard.


Hazard hasn't achieved half of what Messi has achieved and probably never will cos Messi is on another level..
He will have to achieve at least 80% of what Messi has achieved to make any meaningful comparison.

So it will be insane to say hazard is better than Messi.
Same way it is insane to say that zaha is better than hazard.


Neymar vs hazard on the other hand is a better comparison.


Let us learn to comprehend stuff before talking.

pkasso:
Is there any standout best player at Real Madrid currently? Even the supposed best player in the world Modric is on the same level as Kroos, Marcelo and Ramos.

Under Lopetegui's Spain, Isco was the best player. Why? Because he had a manager who trusted him enough to hand him the freedom and license to do whatever he wanted. It's no news that Zidane wasn't as much a big fan of Isco. The same thing happened to James. And we all saw how James beasted under Heynckes.

Even at that, Isco still did enough for Zidane to pick him, even over Bale at times. He certainly wasn't a passenger when they won the CL last season.

But Zidane is a huge fan of Hazard. There must be something wrong with Isco or something right with Hazard, for a successful coach like Zidane to have such views. Maybe he saw it the way I saw it too - Isco is Hazard-wannabe.

Ororo is gone, Isco should do his kitchen job with palm oil, convince his manager to become the main man. Time no dey.

EvilMetahuman:
It's like these people are getting it wrong.


No one is saying hazard is better than Messi...
Having same talent or pattern of play as Messi doesn't necessarily mean that he is better than Messi... Zaha might have same talent or pattern of play as hazard but that doesn't mean he is better than hazard.


Hazard hasn't achieved half of what Messi has achieved and probably never will cos Messi is on another level..
He will have to achieve at least 80% of what Messi has achieved to make any meaningful comparison.

So it will be insane to say hazard is better than Messi.
Same way it is insane to say that zaha is better than hazard.


Neymar vs hazard on the other hand is a better comparison.


Let us learn to comprehend stuff before talking.

Thank you my brother. These people are just unintelligent yet call Chelsea fans names. Smh. Zindane abi Na Henry talk same thing say Hazard get Messi style of play, does that mean he is comparing them, he is only acknowledging Hazard’s talent because we all know Messi is the best player in the world.
My argument from onset is Hazard vs Neymar and I am glad people can see the light now. Since Neymar left Barca the hype that people used to rate him ahead of Hazard is no longer there, now we all can see who is doing better. Both are comparable.

hensben:
Thank you my brother. These people are just unintelligent yet call Chelsea fans names. Smh. Zindane abi Na Henry talk same thing say Hazard get Messi style of play, does that mean he is comparing them, he is only acknowledging Hazard’s talent because we all know us the best player in the world.
My argument from onset is Hazard vs Neymar and I am glad people can see the light now. Since Neymar left Barca the hype that people used to rate him ahead of Hazard is no longer there, now we all can see who is doing better. Both are comparable.

so in your opinion, remove Messi's goals and hazard is on the par or even better than him? because that's what started all this

EvilMetahuman:
It's like these people are getting it wrong.


No one is saying hazard is better than Messi...
Having same talent or pattern of play as Messi doesn't necessarily mean that he is better than Messi... Zaha might have same talent or pattern of play as hazard but that doesn't mean he is better than hazard.


Hazard hasn't achieved half of what Messi has achieved and probably never will cos Messi is on another level..
He will have to achieve at least 80% of what Messi has achieved to make any meaningful comparison.

So it will be insane to say hazard is better than Messi.
Same way it is insane to say that zaha is better than hazard.


Neymar vs hazard on the other hand is a better comparison.


Let us learn to comprehend stuff before talking.

Is that not what we've been trying to tell your people? Nihilist said the difference between Messi and Hazard is not the talent, but the mentality and supporting cast. And you expect us to keep quiet in the presence of such heresy.

Was that not why I said because Hazard can do some or most of the things Messi does, doesn't mean he does it as well as Messi. "Similarity in style of play does not translate to equality in talent"

Na so one of una talk say without goals, Hazard dey the same level with Messi and CR7. Does that statement make any sense to you?

Nihilist just carry all of una put for One Chance bus It's no surprise the likes of Ibim.e, nateev.s and FB-S wanted nothing to do with this nonsense. Nihilist na devil

pkasso:
Is that not what we've been trying to tell your people? Nihilist said the difference between Messi and Hazard is not the talent, but the mentality and supporting cast. And you expect us to keep quiet in the presence of such heresy.

Was that not why I said because Hazard can do some or most of the things Messi does, doesn't mean he does it as well as Messi. "Similarity in style of play does not translate to equality in talent"

Na so one of una talk say without goals, Hazard dey the same level with Messi and CR7. Does that statement make any sense to you?

Nihilist just carry all of una put for One Chance bus It's no surprise the likes of Ibim.e, nateev.s and FB-S wanted nothing to do with this nonsense. Nihilist na devil

Coutinho14:
so in your opinion, remove Messi's goals and hazard is on the par or even better than him? because that's what started all this

Messi is better than Hazard no doubt, but Hazard got messi’s talent which is a complement and not a comparison.

pkasso:
Is that not what we've been trying to tell your people? Nihilist said the difference between Messi and Hazard is not the talent, but the mentality and supporting cast. And you expect us to keep quiet in the presence of such heresy.

Was that not why I said because Hazard can do some or most of the things Messi does, doesn't mean he does it as well as Messi. "Similarity in style of play does not translate to equality in talent"

Na so one of una talk say without goals, Hazard dey the same level with Messi and CR7. Does that statement make any sense to you?

Nihilist just carry all of una put for One Chance bus It's no surprise the likes of Ibim.e, nateev.s and FB-S wanted nothing to do with this nonsense. Nihilist na devil

and I'm still sure you guys are not comprehending nihilist..

His stand has always been, Messi and hazard have equal talent, which I agree with..
Messi cannot achieve half of what he achieved playing for Chelsea or playing under coaches like mourinho or Conte. Never!

Hazard would have achieved more if he started his club career proper at Barca and under managers like pep.


Messi is super talented and lucky. Hazard is super talented but not as lucky..

Hazard plays like messi

Conclusion...hazard is in the same talent bracket as messi.



Hazard doesn't have supporting cast(quality players) around him.

Messi without quality players is on hazard level

Remove goals, assists, dribbles, passing ability, vision, football control techniques, Brain, colour of Jersey, clubs, awards, records and mentality.

Oh...hazard is talented but unlucky while messi is talented and lucky.

Conclusion.... Hazard is just as good as messi if not better
Ayagayagayagayo. She Le stupid ni