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DoctorAlien:
It is near the beginning of the article:

"1. The very early universe – the first picosecond (10−12) of cosmic time. It includes the Planck epoch, during which currently understood laws of physics may not apply; ..."

How does 1 picosecond with a maybe, fit into your narrative?

LordReed:
How does 1 picosecond with a maybe, fit into your narrative?

You and I know that this whole Big Bang story is a sham. The "may" there may as well be replaced a certain "does", like Hawking did in his lecture. Who is sure anyway?

Anyway my point is that the planck epoch is part of that picosecond. The singularity is part of the planck epoch. And the planck epoch is touted to immediately follow the event which began the known universe. And the laws of Physics breakdown at the singularity, and at the planck epoch in general. One then wonders how we hope to study such a thing, as our science operate by the same laws which supposedly broke down for the thing in question to be.

Of course the laws of nature have to be jettisoned for the nonsensical idea of big bang to be entertained.

DoctorAlien:
You and I know that this whole Big Bang story is a sham. The "may" there may as well be replaced a certain "does", like Hawking did in his lecture. Who is sure anyway?

Anyway my point is that the planck epoch is part of that picosecond. The singularity is part of the planck epoch. And the planck epoch is touted to immediately follow the event which began the known universe. And the laws of Physics breakdown at the singularity, and at the planck epoch in general. One then wonders how we hope to study such a thing, as our science operate by the same laws which supposedly broke down for the thing in question to be.

Of course the laws of nature have to be jettisoned for the nonsensical idea of big bang to be entertained.

This shows you don't understand the reasoning behind the idea that the laws breakdown as you go back to the beginning of the universe.

Maybe Google boundary event to get a little more clarity.

The big bang is a better hypothesis for the origins of our universe than a made up fairytale of an all powerful God. The interesting thing is that scientists know that they are positing a hypothesis based on the evidence available and entertain the possibility of being wrong but you with no evidence whatsoever of a God are certain. I'll stick with where the evidence takes us so holler at me when you have some.

LordReed:
This shows you don't understand the reasoning behind the idea that the laws breakdown as you go back to the beginning of the universe.

What other reasoning can there be behind it other than that such a thing could not have happened if they stick they stick with the laws of nature?

The big bang is a better hypothesis for the origins of our universe than a made up fairytale of an all powerful God. The interesting thing is that scientists know that they are positing a hypothesis based on the evidence available and entertain the possibility of being wrong but you with no evidence whatsoever of a God are certain. I'll stick with where the evidence takes us so holler at me when you have some.

The "evidence" still lead creationists to believe that GOD created everything. In the end they're trying to sell to you the idea that the universe managed to create itself from nothing, coated in outlandish terms to look very convincing. Such a silly idea.

DoctorAlien:
What other reasoning can there be behind it other than that such a thing could not have happened if they stick they stick with the laws of nature?

LoL. This is so funny. Here is someone who believes that a magic sky daddy created the universe from nothing questioning the breakdown of the laws of nature at the boundaries of the origin event. So seriously the irony is lost on you?

LordReed:
LoL. This is so funny. Here is someone who believes that a magic sky daddy created the universe from nothing questioning the breakdown of the laws of nature at the boundaries of the origin event. So seriously the irony is lost on you?

In the light of the fact that science has been dubiously redefined to mean "the search for natural explanations"(I smell naturalism here), it becomes very funny that you would entertain the same ideas that creationists entertain, which is that the natural laws could be set aside. But creationists are far more coherent in that they acknowledge a greater Cause than the universe, while naturlists and materialists entertain silly ideas like "the universe created itself from nothing".

I still wonder how they hope to study the origin of the universe with a science which operates by the laws that supposedly broke down at that origin?

DoctorAlien:
In the light of the fact that science has been dubiously redefined to mean "the search for natural explanations"(I smell naturalism here), it becomes very funny that you would entertain the same ideas that creationists entertain, which is that the natural laws could be set aside. But creationists are far more coherent in that they acknowledge a greater Cause than the universe, while naturlists and materialists entertain silly ideas like "the universe created itself from nothing".

I still wonder how they hope to study the origin of the universe with a science which operates by the laws that supposedly broke down at that origin?

LoL I don't know how this works there fore God did it is more coherent then I want to study this thing but my tools are insufficient? Ok that's enough crazy for today. LMFAO!

LordReed:
LoL I don't know how this works there fore God did it is more coherent then I want to study this thing but my tools are insufficient? Ok that's enough crazy for today. LMFAO!

Even when we know how it works, we creationists say "GOD did it". After all did He not create everything? We know how the aeroplane is able to fly and we know how living things reproduce, but we still acknowledge that GOD created the universe, and put the laws and other necessities in place which make these things able to happen.

What about you materialists? "nothing did it." LOL

OLAADEGBU:
If your brain is not designed why should there be an absolute standard of reasoning if everything is simply molecules in motion?

But there is no "absolute standard" of reasoning? Can't you see lots of people around you who can't reason at all?

OLAADEGBU:
They talk trash because they believe their brains is as a result of chemical accidents.

See. Heres one talking trash!

DoctorAlien:
Even when we know how it works, we creationists say "GOD did it". After all did He not create everything? We know how the aeroplane is able to fly and we know how living things reproduce, but we still acknowledge that GOD created the universe, and put the laws and other necessities in place which make these things able to happen.

What about you materialists? "nothing did it." LOL

You cannot trust the thought process of an atheist.

budaatum:
But there is no "absolute standard" of reasoning? Can't you see lots of people around you who can't reason at all?

You atheists continue to convince me that your brains are not intelligently designed.

OLAADEGBU:
You atheists continue to convince me that your brains are not intelligently designed.

Oh, you miss the point. This atheist's brain is not designed at all, it's just very well developed by the work and effort I put in to develop it. It must so pain you that I could have a so well developed brain.

budaatum:
See. Heres one talking trash!

Is your brain a result of chemical reactions or is it intelligently designed?

OLAADEGBU:
Is your brain a result of chemical reactions or is it intelligently designed?

My brain is intelligently designed by me, if you mean it's operation at least.

budaatum:
Oh, you miss the point. This atheist's brain is not designed at all, it's just very well developed by the work and effort I put in to develop it. It must so pain you that I could have a so well developed brain.

Who asked you how you developed your brain? The question was how it got there in the first place. See how some people fail exams without difficulties.

budaatum:
My brain is intelligently designed by me, if you mean it's operation at least.

Have you seen a programmed designed by itself? Does it not occur to you that it must have been designed by a designer?

OLAADEGBU:
Who asked you how you developed your brain? The question was how it got there in the first place. See how some people fail exams without difficulties.

Same way I got here. My mummy and daddy looked dearly in each other's eyes and nine months later, voila, there's me.

OLAADEGBU:
Have you seen a programmed designed by itself? Does it not occur to you that it must have been designed by a designer?

I am not a program! I'm a human being, with freewill.

budaatum:
Same way I got here. My mummy and daddy looked dearly in each other's eyes and nine months later, voila, there's me.

And how did your mummy and daddy get here?

budaatum:
I am not a program! I'm a human being, with freewill.

Who made you human?

Watch this videoclip and smell the coffee.-->
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0u3-2CGOMQ

OLAADEGBU:
And how did your mummy and daddy get here?

My grandparents went into their bedrooms, did what adults do, and 9 months later daddy was born by his parents, then mummy was born by hers. Amazing, isn't it! According to my mummy and daddy, their grandparents did the same thing, as my grandparents did - enter the bedroom - as did the parents of their parents, my great great great grandparents.

I think there's something in that their bedroom entering thing. They do this thing in there called begatting and 9 months later, there's this thing they call a baby, which grows up and begats. Don't you have it in your family? I thought everyone's parents had one and begat!

How did your mummy and daddy get here, degbu?

budaatum:
My grandparents went into their bedrooms, did what adults do, and 9 months later daddy was born by his parents, then mummy was born by hers. Amazing, isn't it! According to my mummy and daddy, their grandparents did the same thing, as my grandparents did - enter the bedroom - as did the parents of their parents, my great great great grandparents.

I think there's something in that their bedroom entering thing. They do this thing in there called begatting and 9 months later, there's this thing they call a baby, which grows up and begats. Don't you have it in your family? I thought everyone's parents had one and begat!

How did your mummy and daddy get here, degbu?

I noticed that you stopped at your great, great, great grandparents. How did they get here?

I only survived 4 minutes of your video, sorry. The interviewer showed way too much ignorance for me to go any further wasting my time!

I never said I evolved. I was born, by my parents who were born by their's, who were born by the their's, who were born by their's, who were born by their's, who were born by their's, who were born by their's, who were born by their's, and so on, at least on my mother's side.

On my paternal side, go back way further and you'd eventually get to my first paternal forebears, the Oba S'Orun. They came down straight from the heavens of their own free will from where they ruled the entire universe. Now we do the begatting in the bedroom thing, commonly called 'to be born', at least to lay people like you. The actual process takes 9 months because it involves a trip to the heavens. The Omo Oba S'Orun, we the offspring of my forebears the Oba S'Orun, go to the heavens to bring forth our offspring. That's why we are known as a ti orun wa si aye. You can hardly expect us, the Omo Oba S'orun, to bow down to gods now, can you, since it is an abomination!

Hmm. Perhaps your's forebears might not do the begatting in the bedroom thing afterall, which is why you must worship gods. Or are you too Omo Oba S'Orun?

OLAADEGBU:
I noticed that you stopped at your great, great, great grandparents. How did they get here?

Seems I preempted you. We do have this mind reading ability!

budaatum:
I only survived 4 minutes of your video, sorry. The interviewer showed way too much ignorance for me to go any further wasting my time!

I never said I evolved. I was born, by my parents who were born by their's, who were born by the their's, who were born by their's, who were born by their's, who were born by their's, who were born by their's, who were born by their's, and so on, at least on my mother's side.

On my paternal side, go back way further and you'd eventually get to my first paternal forebears, the Oba S'Orun. They came down straight from the heavens of their own free will from where they ruled the entire universe. Now we do the begatting in the bedroom thing, commonly called 'to be born', at least to lay people like you. The actual process takes 9 months because it involves a trip to the heavens. The Omo Oba S'Orun, we the offspring of my forebears the Oba S'Orun, go to the heavens to bring forth our offspring. That's why we are known as a ti orun wa si aye. You can hardly expect us, the Omo Oba S'orun, to bow down to gods now, can you, since it is an abomination!

Hmm. Perhaps your's forebears might not do the begatting in the bedroom thing afterall, which is why you must worship gods. Or are you too Omo Oba S'Orun?

If that videoclip is too technical for you then I'll suggest that you watch 'Abejoye' in the following thread --> https://www.nairaland.com/61791/top-ten-gospel-movies-drama#down

OLAADEGBU:
If that videoclip is too technical for you then I'll suggest that you watch 'Abejoye' in the following thread --> https://www.nairaland.com/61791/top-ten-gospel-movies-drama#down

"ignorant", is the word I used. I don't think it means the same as "too technical", degbu!

budaatum:
"ignorant", is the word I used. I don't think it means the same as "too technical", degbu!

Watch the film and get enlightened about where your ancestors came from.

OLAADEGBU:
Watch the film and get enlightened about where your ancestors came from.

Did I not just tell you where my ancestors came from? Or do you think I need you telling me?

Some people sha! One just has to kot!

budaatum:
Did I not just tell you where my ancestors came from? Or do you think I need you telling me?

Some people sha! One just has to kot!

The videoclip will enlighten you on what your so-called gods really are. Watch it and thank me later.

OLAADEGBU:
The videoclip will enlighten you on what your so-called gods really are. Watch it and thank me later.

"My so-called gods" � You're beginning to make me think you have a comprehension problem. Hardly the sort to be recommending videos to me!

Please tell, which bit of "buda is an atheist" have you missed?

budaatum:
"My so-called gods" � You're beginning to make me think you have a comprehension problem. Hardly the sort to be recommending videos to me!

Please tell, which bit of "buda is an atheist" have you missed?

Who said that you are an atheist? There are hardly any atheist in Nigeria, what we have are witches, wizards, New agers and traditionalists all fronting as 'atheists.' Watch the film and see how your gods became idols that you are worshipping today.