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Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by abumeinben(m): 11:13am On Oct 22, 2018
sarrki:
I was born and raised in the north

The 2 religious faithfuls fans ember of discord and hate speech

Majorly done by the religious leaders
Exactly bros, a simple reason God was against leadership by one person.

Another way to resolve this is to employ leadership by followers consultation. Well that almost non-feasible.

The battle of supremacy is just the problem.

I've got no political affiliation, but you and I should agree that the emergence of Buhari as a president awoken some extreme religious beliefs among some vampires.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by sarrki(m): 11:17am On Oct 22, 2018
abumeinben:
Exactly bros, a simple reason God was against leadership by one person.

Another way to resolve this is to employ leadership by followers consultation. Well that almost non-feasible.

The battle of supremacy is just the problem.

I've got no political affiliation, but you and I should agree that the emergence of Buhari as a president awoken some extreme religious beliefs among some vampires.
Political religious leaders are the problem

They see and know for sure that Buhari emergence , Aso Rock will not be a donor house again

So they use religious hate speech and other means to get attention and move there followers to a particular direction

Which in turn gets patronage at the hands of politicians around there domain
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by vedaxcool(m): 11:29am On Oct 22, 2018
ernieboy:
is that the problem of the state? changing name from chiefdom to emirate? how is it the problem of the gov if they are called chiefdoms or Emirates?
Government regulate all matters pertaining chiefdoms and chief are subject to the authority of the government.so it is their business. It is the same chiefs that demanded that their chiefdoms be recognized as Emirates which they were obliged.but the issues is not this, it is the OP DELIBERATELY LYING ABOUT AN ISSUE HE UAS NO CLUE ABOUT.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by Nobody: 12:09pm On Oct 22, 2018
ZKOSOSO:
Agwom Adara Galadima fears nothing..! He was my CRK Teacher in GSS Kachia back then long before coronated. Very handsome, calm and vocal.
Even if u invite him to Lion dens he would go provided that can guarantee peace and justice for his people. He is a very dogged KING. The Best traditional Leader amongst Core North with heart for his people.
I pray God grant him safe return to his people.
I pray for his safe return but I suspect we've seen the last of him. Probably handed over to their bokoharam pals and condemned to slavery.

Shame.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by millomaniac: 2:09pm On Oct 22, 2018
vedaxcool:
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They have inherited dilector perchance for telling lies. Only chiefdoms that indicated they wanted to be addressed as Emirates where designated Emirates
Your argument holds no water. Why would the governor of a violence prone state like kaduna make such instigatory decree. And he did it on his 2nd and final term. God will judge him and his cronies.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by vedaxcool(m): 2:15pm On Oct 22, 2018
millomaniac:
Your argument holds no water. Why would the governor of a violence prone state like kaduna make such instigatory decree. And he did it on his 2nd and final term. God will judge him and his cronies.
Educate yourself, he is on his first term, secondly the chiefdoms requested the change, he did not sit and make a pronouncement as you are sliding to. In your feeble thoughts God should leave those who actually plotted and murder people and face El Rufai you love to hate, abeg dude you this is not about cowardly cownu.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by hillzjnr: 2:42pm On Oct 22, 2018
abumeinben:
Your assertion is rather heavy. Would you mind giving facts in relation to this?
I don’t think it’s heavy.. I lived in kad for 15yrs in which time frame I was unfortunate to experience 3 different crisis we even had a VCH of the aftermath..the 2001 riot was because of the 2002 miss world pageant that was scheduled to hold in Abuja, but was relocated to London...You should read up on it.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by lastmessenger: 2:58pm On Oct 22, 2018
vedaxcool:
Educate yourself, he is on his first term, secondly the chiefdoms requested the change, he did not sit and make a pronouncement as you are sliding to. In your feeble thoughts God should leave those who actually plotted and murder people and face El Rufai you love to hate, abeg dude you this is not about cowardly cownu.
you guys can lie eh. The chiefs asked to be called an emir? Please tell another lie abeg.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by icon02(m): 3:57pm On Oct 22, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:
Rematch? As in the lives of innocent people no longer matters? Why couldn't they go to find the culprits instead of killing innocent people in the aforementioned territories?

Nigerians and our barbaric ways of doing things
I once felt this way but my view of this changed immediately after the reprisal attacks that followed the shalom bombing in 2013, before that event, Christians in Kaduna were known to be docile and subservient with the general submission of allowing God to fight for them. The shocking reprisal and the incalculable death toll on the part of the Muslims seems to have sent a strong message to them that the Christians are now ready to retaliate with a greater force whenever they are attacked.
And as it were, the message seems to be accurately understood as nothing of such has happened since then which is absolutely unlike Kaduna
I went out to feel the perception of the people about what happened yesterday, from my observation, the locals are in support of the reprisal haven seen load trucks of the bodies of fellow Christians as a result of the Thursday clash at kasuwan-magani.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by overall90: 4:27pm On Oct 22, 2018
lastmessenger:
you guys can lie eh. The chiefs asked to be called an emir? Please tell another lie abeg.
just imagine.
where is the sense in that?
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by vedaxcool(m): 4:28pm On Oct 22, 2018
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lastmessenger:
you guys can lie eh. The chiefs asked to be called an emir? Please tell another lie abeg.
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You sound like cownu, a chest beating ignoramus
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by ATS1: 4:38pm On Oct 22, 2018
I don't know what ppl will gain from misinforming ppl. The kidnap of the king has nothing to do with any traditional meeting as you mentioned. Any body can be kidnapped or even get killed regardless of his religious inclination. For your info Northerners have so much regards for traditional title holder weather Muslim or Christian. What happened in Kasuwar magani was a misundstanding btwn a Muslim wheel barrow pusher and a Christian. In the process the Muslim got killed bcoz the Christians are the majority there. The Muslims protested the killings and that led to killing of additional 54 ppl mostly Muslims. A 24 hours curfew was imposed. A day after, bees attacked ppl at a village market ( Kujama ) and ppl started running thinking what happened at Kasuwar magani is going repeat itself. Before you know rumours spread in Kd town that Christians are killing Muslims and Muslims are killing Christians. In Sabo area where the ppl are predominantly Christians , the Muslims got humiliated. In Kawo and T/wada area where Muslims are majority, the Christians got humiliated. The Governor didn't waste time in imposing a curfew and that stopped the looming danger. My advice to ppl is that always say things the way they are. Naturally ppl aligned themselves towards their religious beliefs but try and be just to any body. We are all humans, we serve the same God. We should have sanctity to human lives regardless of religious beliefs.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by SarkinYarki: 4:46pm On Oct 22, 2018
A jihad is going on under your nose you are asking who find trouble
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by PaChukwudi44(m): 4:50pm On Oct 22, 2018
vedaxcool:
Government regulate all matters pertaining chiefdoms and chief are subject to the authority of the government.so it is their business. It is the same chiefs that demanded that their chiefdoms be recognized as Emirates which they were obliged.but the issues is not this, it is the OP DELIBERATELY LYING ABOUT AN ISSUE HE UAS NO CLUE ABOUT.
you are joking!!! Emirates in a Christian dominated community? You must be high on cow dung.There will be no emirates anywhere in southern Kadunna.You guys are joking!!!!
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by Efewestern: 5:00pm On Oct 22, 2018
vedaxcool:
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They have inherited dilector perchance for telling lies. Only chiefdoms that indicated they wanted to be addressed as Emirates where designated Emirates
Provide your own story them, don't let hate blind your sense of reasoning. Going by what I'm reading, Elrufai is damn wrong, you don't force your idea on people.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by vedaxcool(m): 5:02pm On Oct 22, 2018
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PaChukwudi44:
you are joking!!! Emirates in a Christian dominated community? You must be high on cow dung.There will be no emirates anywhere in southern Kadunna.You guys are joking!!!!
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If your medication are no longer working please sniff Cownu smelly feet.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by vedaxcool(m): 5:03pm On Oct 22, 2018
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Efewestern:
Provide your own story them, don't let hate blind your sense of reasoning. Going by what I'm reading, Elrufai is damn wrong, you don't force your idea on people.
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Can you ipob goons cease quoting me, I cannot stand unintelligence in any form.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by crimeboss: 5:28pm On Oct 22, 2018
vedaxcool:
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They have inherited dilector perchance for telling lies. Only chiefdoms that indicated they wanted to be addressed as Emirates where designated Emirates
The Muslims can do no wrong in Kaduna, they are always peaceful to instigate conflict Syria, Iraq, Palestine, Yemen and central african republic, they are encouraging helping themselves when they look on the white people come to their people's aids and these islamic terrorists kill them, Islam is terrorism and muslims are terrorists, islamic religion that preys on the weak.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by lastmessenger: 5:35pm On Oct 22, 2018
vedaxcool:
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You sound like cownu, a chest beating ignoramus
yes kanu the nightmare of all headslammers. Come and make them emirs na. I'd..oitic people
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by lastmessenger: 5:37pm On Oct 22, 2018
PaChukwudi44:
you are joking!!! Emirates in a Christian dominated community? You must be high on cow dung.There will be no emirates anywhere in southern Kadunna.You guys are joking!!!!
don't mind that idiot.. How can you convert chiefs to emirs just like that. Elrufai is the cause of all these problems.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by crimeboss: 5:38pm On Oct 22, 2018
vedaxcool:
Government regulate all matters pertaining chiefdoms and chief are subject to the authority of the government.so it is their business. It is the same chiefs that demanded that their chiefdoms be recognized as Emirates which they were obliged.but the issues is not this, it is the OP DELIBERATELY LYING ABOUT AN ISSUE HE UAS NO CLUE ABOUT.
My grouse u people is that u love spilling blood encouraged by holy inspirational trip script, and u never regret ur actions but stand behind every terrible action u make, it's obvious judging from ur nature to self-destruct u were the ones that started all these trouble.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by YourImaginaryBF: 6:07pm On Oct 22, 2018
nairaland the home of fake news. I live in Kaduna makera. Kakuri and marahaban rido are no where near each other.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by abumeinben(m): 6:24pm On Oct 22, 2018
hillzjnr:
I don’t think it’s heavy.. I lived in kad for 15yrs in which time frame I was unfortunate to experience 3 different crisis we even had a VCH of the aftermath..the 2001 riot was because of the 2002 miss world pageant that was scheduled to hold in Abuja, but was relocated to London...You should read up on it.
Didn't really understand your point sire
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by fk001(m): 6:46pm On Oct 22, 2018
krisdzhon:
Make no mistake about what is happening in Kaduna as Politics! It is a subtle unfolding of the grand plan of expanding Islamic Emirates across the 774 LGAs in Nigeria! El-Rufia is making all efforts to implement the Islamization Masterplan using Kaduna as a pilot test!
A piece of sh!t from an illiterate.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by godox2(m): 8:12pm On Oct 22, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:
Rematch? As in the lives of innocent people no longer matters? Why couldn't they go to find the culprits instead of killing innocent people in the aforementioned territories?

Nigerians and our barbaric ways of doing things
Mr T, I happened to be from that part of the country, Kafanchan to be precised. I those days, if Kafanchan is boiling with crisis, Govt will send force agencies to Zaria and Kaduna, before sending them to Kafanchan, same way if Zaria is boiling, they send force to Kafanchan first. So, return match is their way which led to massacare of innocent citizens from both tribes and religion and thus, causes serious under development.

Are you also Atikulating?
You raised points to ponder on, but unfortunately, none of our agile youths will reason that way. Your party should have come out with a candidate that is fair corruption wise, not someone that OBJ, openly told the world and put it in writing. This will really work against him. In addition to that, it is in the open that he used billions to buy his way. While lets see how he will manage those situations but it might not be easy for him to redeem his image. An average Hausa man sees him as a politician that invest to reap profit, lets leave it for another day.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by Nobody: 8:56pm On Oct 22, 2018
teceejay1:
A graphic description of events leading to the breakdown of law and order in Kaduna State.

@ReXkPiT tweeted

1. The river Kaduna divides Kaduna into northern and southern areas. South of the river is Kaduna south LGA, then chikun LGA, then kajuru LGA, then kujama LGA, kachia LGA, Kagoro LGA dey go like that till you reach plateau or nassarawa. Predominantly Christian, with chiefdoms

2. In June of this year, elrufai said that hence forth, the chiefdoms would be known as emirates.. And emirate is ruled by an emir, often a Muslim who is forced to dress like the image of muslim king we are familiar with, the turban etc

3. People opposed it, as it meant destruction of traditional institutions.. But it was supported by the Muslim traders in the southern areas. This has always been a source of conflict, on visitors coming to dictate what goes on in these areas with the support of govt. Eg Z.kataf etc

4. A notable critic is the chief of adara chiefdom where the town kasuwa magani falls under. Kasuwan magani has a very big Thursday market, where u go see jeeps park for main road because of how foodstuff cheap. You'd think he's an Igbo man because of his dressing n the leopard skin

5. He said southern chiefs cannot wear turban. Tensions had been high over his position. The thing dey cause small small quarrel for their market and town, before you know, fight happen on Thursday for kasuwan magani.. Dem kill over 60people, we no know their religion.

6. El rufai come do peace meeting for kachia, as this same adara (kadara) chief dey return, dem ambush am, kill the police escort and 4 of his traditional guards, den carry the king comot. Unknown gunmen.

7. When kachia people and kasuwan magani people hear, before dem mobilize, army dun block everywhere.. Das why sabo youths vex.. So sabo, maraba rido and kakuri organize rematch this afternoon.. As match dey start, naim el rufai declare 24hrs curfew..

8. Abeg who find trouble?
#AnotherViewPlease?
Since when I was born in the 1980's Kaduna has never known peace. Oh sweet Kaduna of old....d crocodile state. The beautiful state that has houses the 36 states of Nigeria. Each tribe and state is fully represented in this state. You will not look for a calabar man or a bayelsa man and don't find any in this state. Beautiful state with so much unrest. I said bye bye to the Northern region years back lemme face the South abeg.
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:34pm On Oct 23, 2018
vedaxcool:
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If your medication are no longer working please sniff Cownu smelly feet.
You are the sick one trying to expand your Islamic agenda.Southern Kadunna will never fall to islam no matter what you people do.Not even in the next 1000 years
Re: Kaduna Curfew: The True Story Of Events Leading To The Violence by EagleNest(m): 5:33am On Oct 28, 2018
If the order of events as it unfolded were as you listed then the progenitor of the crises is ElRufai. He should be held responsible.

Abduction of the king seems orchestrated by Govt, and may be the killings as well.

I pity humanity so much for unnecessary and irrelevant fight for religious or cultural domination instead of emancipation and restoration of human divinity.
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