₦airaland Forum

oblaak:
The choice is before us. Vote wisely

PassingShot:
Not until elected governors and other officers of political parties understand that the party is superior to them, things will not improve in Nigeria.

Situation where governors, senator, reps and others elected into positions through their party become too big for the party and act as they like, dictating anything and everything that happens in the party they used to get to position is not good for the party and Nigeria.

For our democracy to thrive as we wish, party's position must be superior to individuals who make the party. It is the only way elected/appointed office holders can have a re-think and behave well.

Imagine Okorocha wanting to install his in-law as governor against other members' preference. Same with Amosun and the rest. Must governors and other party's top guys be allowed to have their ways all the time?

Even though I consider Oshiomole's style too harsh sometimes, I think he is going in the right direction mostly.

Islie:
https://www.independent.ng/apc-crisis-govs-back-down-as-buhari-supports-oshiomhole/amp/

PassingShot:
I expected someone to say this. The difference is that APC in Lagos is generally fine with Mrs. Tinubu being their Senator for her senatorial district. They're generally happy with Tinubu being their leader and dictating the direction. If they say NO to it tomorrow, APC national leadership will have no reason not to side with them. This is not the case with the sited examples.

stephen109:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME

ajepako:
Seriously? No Lagosian is complaining of Babasope -ism in Lagos?

Or simply because there is nothing they can do about it, after all the old dude has EVERYTHING at his disposal?? Ever hears of the Yoruba adage: Ti oni kinni nla ba mbani sun, nise laa maa gbin? Meaning when a woman is having sex with a man with big peeniis,, then she has no option but to grunt and sightill the man is done?
That is exactly the situation between Lagos and Tinubu.. He is the man with the proverbial big penisss and Lagosians are the proverbial woman..

However, does it excuse the fact that it remains dictatorial for one person to determine who governs an entire state with our level of intellect?

Dude, what isn't right will never be right..

Godfatherism whether in APC or PDP is unhealthy because it favors not the masses...

PassingShot:
I didn't say no one is complaining. Read me well before you respond please.

My message remains that, not until the majority are opposed to him and they not getting the support from the national party, we can't say much about Tinubu's case. Yes, he's the Lagos Godfather and the fact that he has not been opposed on a large scale by his party members or Lagosians, his is not on same level as Amosun and Okorocha who have been opposed by majority of their state's APC members.

Mrblaster:
Get your facts right oga. Amosun owns ogun APC hook, line and sinker. He single handedly installed the state APC chairman. Where was tinubu then? What transpired in ogun APC primary was aa s result of tinubu vendetta towards amosun. Akinlade won the state primary by a wide margin but to the surprise of many, NWC organized a mushroom convention inside an hotel here in abeokuta with few party members from which they declared dapo Abiodun. This is what amosun has been fighting for that where did APC NWC got their results from when already the state party chairman has declared akinlade winner in the presence of inec officials ooo. Tinubu is getting back at amosun because of yayi disgrace in ogun state. Buhari may not find it funny next year. These governors can mar his election and there's nothing tinubu can do about that. Just mark my post as reference.

PassingShot:
I didn't say no one is complaining. Read me well before you respond please.

My message remains that, not until the majority are opposed to him and they not getting the support from the national party, we can't say much about Tinubu's case. Yes, he's the Lagos Godfather and the fact that he has not been opposed on a large scale by his party members or Lagosians, his is not on same level as Amosun and Okorocha who have been opposed by majority of their state's APC members.

WisdomFlakes:
Mark my words. Akinlade will fly APC flag eventually.

WisdomFlakes:
Mark my words. Akinlade will fly APC flag eventually.

PassingShot:
I didn't say no one is complaining. Read me well before you respond please.

My message remains that, not until the majority are opposed to him and they not getting the support from the national party, we can't say much about Tinubu's case. Yes, he's the Lagos Godfather and the fact that he has not been opposed on a large scale by his party members or Lagosians, his is not on same level as Amosun and Okorocha who have been opposed by majority of their state's APC members.

PaChukwudi44:
Majority of Ogun APC including the executives are with Amosun

Mrblaster:
Get your facts right oga. Amosun owns ogun APC hook, line and sinker. He single handedly installed the state APC chairman. Where was tinubu then? What transpired in ogun APC primary was aa s result of tinubu vendetta towards amosun. Akinlade won the state primary by a wide margin but to the surprise of many, NWC organized a mushroom convention inside an hotel here in abeokuta with few party members from which they declared dapo Abiodun. This is what amosun has been fighting for that where did APC NWC got their results from when already the state party chairman has declared akinlade winner in the presence of inec officials ooo. Tinubu is getting back at amosun because of yayi disgrace in ogun state. Buhari may not find it funny next year. These governors can mar his election and there's nothing tinubu can do about that. Just mark my post as reference.

Mrblaster:
Get your facts right oga. Amosun owns ogun APC hook, line and sinker. He single handedly installed the state APC chairman. Where was tinubu then? What transpired in ogun APC primary was aa s result of tinubu vendetta towards amosun. Akinlade won the state primary by a wide margin but to the surprise of many, NWC organized a mushroom convention inside an hotel here in abeokuta with few party members from which they declared dapo Abiodun. This is what amosun has been fighting for that where did APC NWC got their results from when already the state party chairman has declared akinlade winner in the presence of inec officials ooo. Tinubu is getting back at amosun because of yayi disgrace in ogun state. Buhari may not find it funny next year. These governors can mar his election and there's nothing tinubu can do about that. Just mark my post as reference.

ajepako:
Dude, well said...
You mentioned Okorocha and Amosu
What of the Emperor of Bordillon in Lagos?
Or Ogbeni Aregbe in State of Osun?

PassingShot:
Not until elected governors and other officers of political parties understand that the party is superior to them, things will not improve in Nigeria.

Situation where governors, senator, reps and others elected into positions through their party become too big for the party and act as they like, dictating anything and everything that happens in the party they used to get to position is not good for the party and Nigeria.

For our democracy to thrive as we wish, party's position must be superior to individuals who make the party. It is the only way elected/appointed office holders can have a re-think and behave well.

Imagine Okorocha wanting to install his in-law as governor against other members' preference. Same with Amosun and the rest. Must governors and other party's top guys be allowed to have their ways all the time?

Even though I consider Oshiomole's style too harsh sometimes, I think he is going in the right direction mostly.

oblaak:
The choice is before us. Vote wisely

WisdomFlakes:
I think the headline of this thread is misleading because in the true sense Buhari is putting Oshiomhole under a lot of pressure to change the result to favour Amosun's candidate. I strongly believe Akinlade will end up as the APC candidate to fly the party flag because Amosun is deploying every means (including blackmail) to see to that.

Oshiomhole's plan was to try to make sure that the governors don't end up shutting out other stakeholders of the party in their states by gobbling up and imposing all the candidates at the state level, but Buhari feels he needs these governors (whom are already stylishly threatening to dump him in the upcoming election) so Oshiomhole will have no choice than to do the wishes of the governors in the end. That is how it will play out in the end, you watch.

oblaak:
The choice is before us. Vote wisely

ajepako:
Dude, well said...

You mentioned Okorocha and Amosu

What of the Emperor of Bordillon in Lagos?

Or Ogbeni Aregbe in State of Osun?

WisdomFlakes:
Mark my words. Akinlade will fly APC flag eventually.

PassingShot:
Not until elected governors and other officers of political parties understand that the party is superior to them, things will not improve in Nigeria.

Situation where governors, senator, reps and others elected into positions through their party become too big for the party and act as they like, dictating anything and everything that happens in the party they used to get to position is not good for the party and Nigeria.

For our democracy to thrive as we wish, party's position must be superior to individuals who make the party. It is the only way elected/appointed office holders can have a re-think and behave well.

Imagine Okorocha wanting to install his in-law as governor against other members' preference. Same with Amosun and the rest. Must governors and other party's top guys be allowed to have their ways all the time?

Even though I consider Oshiomole's style too harsh sometimes, I think he is going in the right direction mostly.

deegov:
nonsense write up from a myopic wailer,amosun should have opted for direct primaries if so popular,he brought idea of consensus and failed when tinubu wanted to dislodge ambode ,he asked him to go test his popularity,when cant your useless leader do same

Note;im not a fan of any of them but i will prefer tinubu not for a anything but how to play politics when amosun was planing to undermine him he dint know that the man knows what hes doing ,what we have now is chess game even if he will have his way later he will sweat

biggy26:
But Tinubu is imposing his own choice. Is Ambo not supposed to be the party leader in d state? How can Aregbe be controlling things in another state? These questions need answers.

forgiveness:
Did you see ogbeni and okorocha try to impose candidates on stakeholders by force by fire?