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Muslims on continuous fight with Muslims and non-muslims alike. "A religion of peace" with fight from the inception till now and till end time. Is it reasonable to consider the religion as that of peace? Irony !!!

Why would anyone deceive himself or herself?

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ZKOSOSO:
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Yes.

I have just read the story about what happened after the death of Muhammad that brought about the various factions of Islam. There were many wars (deaths) among the Muslims, which brought about Shiites and others.

Remember, there was a lot of deaths (blood sheds) during the time of Muhammad and now after him.

How does that look like a religion of peace or somebody is deceiving somebody somewhere?

Can there be peace when there is no love ...? This is one fundamental question Islam and Muslims need to ask themselves

Zehavi:
Can there be peace when there is no love ...? This is one fundamental question Islam and Muslims need to ask themselves

Perfect !!!

Allah did not enjoin Muslims to love one another, talklesss of loving non- Muslims.

Intact Allah said they should be harsh to those who they refer to as unbelievers.

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you.

cleanvessel:
Perfect !!!

Allah did not enjoin Muslims to love one another, talklesss of loving non- Muslims.

Intact Allah said they should be harsh to those who they refer to as unbelievers.

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you.

True talk . But what do you see as the way forward?

Zehavi:
True talk . But what do you see as the way forward?

Well, I believe the way forward is prayers by Christians. In fact Nigeria is at the verge of religious war like Lebanon if God does not intervene on time. We can see what is happening in the Northern Nigeria today.

Another point is: these people know that Christians do not love violence, except they have no choice. Jesus warned us about violence and this is what Muslims are capitalizing on. May God have mercy.

cleanvessel:
Well, I believe the way forward is prayers by Christians. In fact Nigeria is at the verge of religious war like Lebanon if God does not intervene on time. We can see what is happening in the Northern Nigeria today.

Another point is: these people know that Christians do not love violence, except they have no choice. Jesus warned us about violence and this is what Muslims are capitalizing on. May God have mercy.

You are right , but on the issue of defending yourself against aggression, is it alright as a a Christian?

Zehavi:
You are right , but on the issue of defending yourself against aggression, is it alright as a a Christian?

As a matter of personal opinion, I believe self defence is okay. When Jesus was about to be crucified, he told the Disciples to get a sword each. I believe Jesus knew if they have swords, it might be difficult for the enemies to approach them. If they killed all of them at the same time, nobody would have carried on the Gospel.

OK I get you. Only Muslims have been involved in wars,we xtians have never fought any wars before.

mujahid777:
OK I get you. Only Muslims have been involved in wars,we xtians have never fought any wars before.

Christians communities worldwide are very peaceful and progressive cos of the Love of God. In Islam, Muslims are enjoined to kill the disbelievers and hypocrites. (Kafurun and Munafiqun)

ZKOSOSO:
Christians communities worldwide are very peaceful and progressive cos of the Love of God. In Islam, Muslims are enjoined to kill the disbelievers and hypocrites. (Kafurun and Munafiqun)

Kill you
What makes you think you are that useful.
Answer my simple question: have xtians also fought wars? Yes or No

mujahid777:
Kill you
What makes you think you are that useful.
Answer my simple question: have xtians also fought wars? Yes or No

If Christians fought war, they are on their own.

If Jesus had wanted war, nobody would have been able to arrest him. He told Peter to shield his sword. Again, Jesus said if he wanted to fight, he would have got angels to fight for him. From Bible records, one angel is capable of killing 180,000 persons in one night.

Please note that Muslims are also human beings and do not possess special skill for warfare. It is just that they attack people who are not prepared to fight.

While Jesus warned his followers against fighting, allah said:

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

all of you should just keep "merogoranding"-not sure of the spelling- in ignorance.... i just don't know why anyone will believe in all this religious talking donkeys and splitting moon.... are these not the most laughable thing anyone can say to convince you...?.... like wtf ?

cleanvessel:
If Christians fought war, they are on their own.

If Jesus had wanted war, nobody would have been able to arrest him. He told Peter to shield his sword. Again, Jesus said if he wanted to fight, he would have got angels to fight for him. From Bible records, one angel is capable of killing 180,000 persons in one night.

Please note that Muslims are also human beings and do not possess special skill for warfare. It is just that they attack people who are not prepared to fight.

While Jesus warned his followers against fighting, allah said:

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

You're not the only one that knows how to semi quote o:
Matthew 10:24 "I have not come to bring peace, but a sword... "

mujahid777:
You're not the only one that knows how to semi quote o:
Matthew 10:24 "I have not come to bring peace, but a sword... "

You don't know the meaning of that verse. You don't just read the Bible, you need to be schooled in it.

What muslims are doing to the Christians is the meaning of that verse. Because of the faith in Jesus as the Son of God the muslims hate and kill Christians.

That is violence and sword Jesus was talking about.

John 16:2
They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

Muslims in their service to Allah kill Christians worldwide.

cleanvessel:
You don't know the meaning of that verse. You don't just read the Bible, you need to be schooled in it.

What muslims are doing to the Christians is the meaning of that verse. Because of the faith in Jesus as the Son of God the muslims hate and kill Christians.

That is violence and sword Jesus was talking about.

John 16:2
They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

Muslims in their service to Allah kill Christians worldwide.

Even dummies knows that verse was referring to jews

mujahid777:
Even dummies knows that verse was referring to jews

It is referring to anyone who kill Christians believing he is doing God's service, Muslims inclusive.

John 16:2
They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

@ mujahid777

Can you explain how Islam, with what is happening from the time of Muhammad till now be called a region of peace?

I mean, what is the definition of "peace" in Islam?