₦airaland Forum

Ojiofor:
We voted for Zik(NPP)in 1979 go and check your records.Abiola's election was cancelled so it doesn't count.
I said we never vote against an Incumbent southerner the people you mentioned above was never president when they contested election.
We supported OBJ and GEJ who were southerners to win their second term eelection.

Kid, quit your infantile reasoning, do the candidate become more southern when they are incumbent? Opposing a southern candidate to support a northern one doesn't count as betrayal, except it's done by Yorubas right. Let all people support whoever will be in their own interests.
Deceive nobody that ibo interest is not paramount in the choice of Atiku/Obi tickets.

Felixv:
Which Yoruba Christians are you talking about. Am certainly not voting for that athithief criminal.

Then either your mother is a yoruba moslem or your dad. What is certain is that yoruba moslem blood flows in your blood. The real criminal is in the image below

codedguy1:
It was not a false teaching. There are countries in this world that Dont have the underground resources like oil but are doing very well.

We created that reality on ground you are talking about where a gov will have 65% of say in the affairs of a state, I ask, is that normal? Why will they not be be tin gods when the system we practice is draconian.

Where in the world would a president or gov have such control and you will see good progress.


Restructuring can correct that to an extent.

That's why things remain stagnant in Nigeria. An honest person can never win an election in Nigeria.

Restructuring should be vision 2028 . States should be prepared enough before introduction

argon500:
That's why things remain stagnant in Nigeria. An honest person can never win an election in Nigeria.

Restructuring should be vision 2028 . States should be prepared enough before introduction

We can start restructuring now in a gradual process.

Every state should be responsible for resources in and under the ground including (land, labour, capital, and Enterpreneurship) in there state and state allocation will be reducing every year for like 4years until the states become independent. This wpuld give them time to explore what will bring revenue to them and exploit it with capital investments while still receiving allocation yhat would be reducing till its cut off completely and they are standing on their own. Off course there would have been an agreement also on the % to be remitted to the fg.

AkpaMgbor:
Bloody fvcktard..the last time I checked, Igbos were finance ministers even in the time of obasanjo..is it their fault that they have the best brains in terms of financial management?

Iboes were finance ministers under Obasanjo indeed. Apart from Okonjo Iwaela, tell me which other Ibo was finance miniataer? Flat.head oshi. I just told you the truth. Your support for Jonathan was because of what you benefitted from him. You had power under him. Thank God buhari sent that drunkard away

ozodigboo:
Did you see the scores for Anambra ? Who won ? Why is Ebonyi not there ? Or was it deleted ?

Flat.head, there was no Ebony at that time. Ebonyi was part of of Enugu or Abia. You Ibos are shameless. Mko won only Anambra out of all Ibo sates and you have the audacity to talk. Even rivers state that includes present day Bayelsa did not Vite for him and yet Ijaws were crying that Yoruba people did not vote for the ineffectual baffoon they called son.
Nonsense

Chai!, if truly the Ndigbos and the rest Igbo association are supporting Atiku because of his promise to restructure this country, then I must say, the decision is certainly far from wise. Ndigbos just took an awful, unproductive bait.

codedguy1:
We can start restructuring now in a gradual process.

Every state should be responsible for resources in and under the ground including (land, labour, capital, and Enterpreneurship) in there state and state allocation will be reducing every year for like 4years until the states become independent. This wpuld give them time to explore what will bring revenue to them and exploit it with capital investments while still receiving allocation yhat would be reducing till its cut off completely and they are standing on their own. Off course there would have been an agreement also on the % to be remitted to the fg.

It will still take nothing less than 10 years. Most Northern states are not ready for restructuring cos they are used with oil Money. That's just the reality

Those accusing Igbos of putting their eggs in one basket should give us a break pls.

Igbos dont depend on politics to survive like the rest of the country who survives by being dashed money by the politicians.

In 2015 election Igbos put their votes in one basket yet the north still has the highest number of poverty till today so whats the noise?

The hardship brought by Buhari government is being felt everywhere in this country so whats the noise about ?

fuel is 143-145 naira across the country so whats the noise?

Insecurity and destruction of lives and properties are still high in the north with boko haram and fulani herdsmen so whats the noise?

Labour is crying for wage increase. Is labour made up of only igbos?

you people should shut up and stop tormenting yourself with the so called one basket thing.

Igbos are fearless and straight forwad in making their stand known. It is only people who depends heavily on money from politicians that play double game.

argon500:
It will still take nothing less than 10 years. Most Northern states are not ready for restructuring cos they are used with oil Money. That's just the reality

I agree, but we just need to start the process now.

codedguy1:
I agree, but we just need to start the process now.

Most southern states can survive without oi money. Northern youths need to wake up now. Majority of them do not know right from wrong. Same as Southern part. In a sane clime, with the population of 200m+, Na only Buhari and Atiku we go fit vote.

Chai, Education is useless in Nigeria and Africa in all

argon500:
Most southern states can survive without oi money. Northern youths need to wake up now. Majority of them do not know right from wrong. Same as Southern part. In a sane clime, with the population of 200m+, Na only Buhari and Atiku we go fit vote.

Chai, Education is useless in Nigeria and Africa in all

No matter how bad a situation is, once the route for the solution is found the only way is to work it and being smart and innovative about going through the process will help.

Regardless of how supposedly disadvataged the north is just imagine if we had restructured 10years earlier?

SouthEastFacts:
Then either your mother is a yoruba moslem or your dad. What is certain is that yoruba moslem blood flows in your blood. The real criminal is in the image below

A real Yoruba, well trained one would show respect for other people’s parents.

Omo ale jati jati.

Am sure you are one of those yaboo plus guys who go around stinking to high heaven

Olori buruku jati jati

There is not a single ounce of moslem blood in my family.

Yet, where I come from - Isale eko, we never - I repeat, we never discriminate based on religion

It is ignorant fools like you that spread that slim. For generations gone by and in the future that is the way we will live.

If you want to vote for athithief please do - that is your constitutional right but don’t assume many would want to vote for an economic saboteur like him - a man who was /is only interested in festering his own nests.

One of the worse looters in the country - even obj had to bow to this scumbag criminal

You see, custom officers are trained to steal - it is what they do - duties meant for the government are pocketed , goods meant for individuals are stolen. The racket stinks.

Visit tin can island and see atiku’s breed at work.

codedguy1:
No matter how bad a situation is, once the route for the solution is found the only way is to work it and being smart and innovative about going through the process will help.

Regardless of how supposedly disadvataged the north is just imagine if we had restructured 10years earlier?

Have you been to any northern states? I am not talking about town, I mean villages. Their past and current leaders purposefully leave them in abject poverty. Those people do not know what a " Right" is. They can be easily deceived with peanut. Most especially when the election is around the corner. They are more than us in Southern part cos a single man can have an average of 5 children. Those are the real voters who will queue come rain come sun.
What do we have down South here, claiming sophisticated on internet and allowing almajiri to choose who becomes Nigeria president .
Only solution is "If" southern states can unite as one like their northern part. That is not even possible cos some af.onjas and fla.ttinos will never agree on same idea. We saw it before, we are seeing it presently. Reference case Nairaland.

They cant engage in a meaningful conversation without throwing tantrum.

Nwadiuto247:
Those accusing Igbos of putting their eggs in one basket should give us a break pls.

Igbos dont depend on politics to survive like the rest of the country who survives by being dashed money by the politicians.

In 2015 election Igbos put their votes in one basket yet the north still has the highest number of poverty till today so whats the noise?

The hardship brought by Buhari government is being felt everywhere in this country so whats the noise about ?

fuel is 143-145 naira across the country so whats the noise?

Insecurity and destruction of lives and properties are still high in the north with boko haram and fulani herdsmen so whats the noise?

Labour is crying for wage increase. Is labour made up of only igbos?

you people should shut up and stop tormenting yourself with the so called one basket thing.

Igbos are fearless and straight forwad in making their stand known. It is only people who depends heavily on money from politicians that play double game.

Things don't work that way. Even if you guys want to put all your eggs in one basket, it should be a secret weapon. 2019 election is about SW and SE. Buhari will have nothing less than 60% of total casted vote in SW. Who ever wins SW already invested in both Buhari and Atiku. A win win case. SS is also playing the same politics( that is glaring)
In the case of South East, It is a MUST for Atiku to win( for those interested in politics). Should Buhari wins , it means they have no stake on his reelection. You cant have your cake and eat it. No it doesn't work that way.

I am not here to convince you on who to vote or not even me self I be internet keyboard warrior Wey no get time/energy to vote, but if you are talking about real project not paper work, then Buhari has something to use to campaign.
About the economy, It was something glaring Nigeria was heading to recession before Buhari came in, though he made some bad policy like total introduction if TSA. He should have used a withdrawal method. Nigerians are used to free money. Those who are doing legit work do not have any feeling on the economy. And before you talk about millions of job lost, majority of the company owners one way or the other involved in politics. Forget about their big brand name, they used corrupt money to run the business. They are not really making reasonable profit with their lavish lifes. When the TSA was introduced, free money stopped and what do you think would happen to their business, of couse they will cut up the size of their workers to survive.

Offlate, I read about HSBC and other bank pulling out of Nigeria . Why won't they, do ordinary common man have an account with them. Majority of their account holders are looters ( PDP and APC members , na only name difference and dey fit switch gear to which ever party they want) and some few parents paying school fee or legit international business man.

About the killings, my own conspiracy theory is that during Jonathan regime, some PDP and APC members were the one responsible for the boko haram killing. Just only for 3 purpose
1. For monetary gain. You guys don't have an idea how much some community are paying to boko haram group not to attack their community. Dasuki must Definitely be part or when have you heard PDP talking about his release?
2. To discredit GEJ's government. Majority were APC members in north in other to get sympathy. Same in Syria, Yemen, Iran e.t.c
3. To reduce a certain particular community loyal to a party. Both PDP and APC are responsible of that. To them its a game. Bokoharam kidnap almost 400 girls at one night in a state under emergency with security everywhere. How many bus did they use to convern them? How long would it take to load all the girls in the busses. On average if they use 80 seater bus. That is 5 busses and nobody saw them.

Same thing is happening about the herdsmen killing. It is political. Both APC and PDP sponporers had already made a lot of money before the primary election. Trust me by January, either herdsmen or boko haram will go on rampage. Where do you think they will get money to fund their campaign? Sometimes, it is beyond what a leader can stop just like that. Whether Gej, Atiku or Buhari.

argon500:
Have you been to any northern states? I am not talking about town, I mean villages. Their past and current leaders purposefully leave them in abject poverty. Those people do not know what a " Right" is. They can be easily deceived with peanut. Most especially when the election is around the corner. They are more than us in Southern part cos a single man can have an average of 5 children. Those are the real voters who will queue come rain come sun.
What do we have down South here, claiming sophisticated on internet and allowing almajiri to choose who becomes Nigeria president .
Only solution is "If" southern states can unite as one like their northern part. That is not even possible cos some af.onjas and fla.ttinos will never agree on same idea. We saw it before, we are seeing it presently. Reference case Nairaland.

They cant engage in a meaningful conversation without throwing tantrum.

So what exactly is your point? We should continue Luke this?

Regardless of how poor the villages in the north are if we do the right thing by restructuring it will be better for us all on the long run. We just need to start it.

As per the south coming together, you have answered the question with you afonja and Igbo disposition to each other. But there can be a healthy competition between the 2 of them.

The a location states collect now from abuja can be doubled if all states take responsibility of resources in their states. That's a fact, the problem is that the oil states might become too rich in the eyes of the north. How the oil states manage their riches is another matter, excesses can be used to manage the few states that would need assistance.

Look at NEPA/disco etc if Tinubu had been allowed with his ipp project by now am sure almost all the sw would have been lighted up now, why can't kainji, shiroro and jebba generate light for the north, allow the nd use their oil to power themselves and support any other region who might lack the capacity. Even ajaokuta can generate light for about 5 states.

FDI to states will help achieve their goals and Dont forget agriculture alone can even get us out of this situation if we can feed west Africa. At least every state has land.

[quote author=codedguy1 post=72998090]So what exactly is your point? We should continue Luke this?

Regardless of how poor the villages in the north are if we do the right thing by restructuring it will be better for us all on the long run. We just need to start it.

As per the south coming together, you have answered the question with you afonja and Igbo disposition to each other. But there can be a healthy competition between the 2 of them.

The a location states collect now from abuja can be doubled if all states take responsibility of resources in their states. That's a fact, the problem is that the oil states might become too rich in the eyes of the north. How the oil states manage their riches is another matter, excesses can be used to manage the few states that would need assistance.

Look at NEPA/disco etc if Tinubu had been allowed with his ipp project by now am sure almost all the sw would have been lighted up now, why can't kainji, shiroro and jebba generate light for the north, allow the nd use their oil to power themselves and support any other region who might lack the capacity. Even ajaokuta can generate light for about 5 states.

FDI to states will help achieve their goals and Dont forget agriculture alone can even get us out of this situation if we can feed west Africa. At least every state has land.[/quote

Bro my point is as how sophisticated we are in Southern part, ordinarily region can't come together as one. Let call a spade a spade. When Last have you heard SE or SS or SW leaders coming together to discuss the progress of their region( I am not talking of their show meeting which they only discuss without implementing.

If a state like Bayelsa of less than 3 million population still owing salary, then we are not ready for restructuring because it simply means even if FG give them 100% ownership, do not expect to see mini Dubai. If you can not manage your airtime credit, you will hardly manage your account balance.

Majority of northern elites have this sense of entitlement. They are lazy intellectually, upon how many years they have ruled, upon billions if not trillions stolen now and then, they are still poor and backward. They can never support restructuring not even now.

Nigeria politics heh, no matter how big your campaign plan is, our useless constitution will only allow you to do little. That was done during the scam population numbers. SE,SS,SW are 17 states in total. That means northern states 19 abi. Do you have an idea how many fraudulent local government, reps, senate members compared to their southern part . If by vote, you can't win them in house and senate unless if they support the idea or money is involved. To cap it all, we have some useless representative down south here's who are saboteurs. We saw how meaningful project was removed from the budget.

Not until we scrap our unworkable constitution in Nigeria , we shouldn't expect much development in the next 10 years. No bills raised in both House of rep and senate without money or juicy things involved. If our legislooter is not going to benefit from any bill, if you can not bribe them, Na till Jesus comes Dem go pass am. That's the reality about the country we all found ourself

So how do we change the unworkable constitution? Especially when afonja and Igbos can not agree.

If we eventually get to restructure, I bet you it will be easier to hold a gov to accountability because its local. It would be easier to protest and get results.

We can't continue like this.

codedguy1:
So how do we change the unworkable constitution? Especially when afonja and Igbos can not agree.

If we eventually get to restructure, I bet you it will be easier to hold a gov to accountability because its local. It would be easier to protest and get results.

We can't continue like this.

Restructuring is not the solution at least for now. Not until we see presidential post as ceremonial and channel the energy on how to elect a credible leader from local government chairman to Governor. See we are complaining of about no electricity in some areas, poor road, poor security. Abeg Na when last did the president or Governor pass through your street. Who presidency epp, Obasanjo was a president for a good 8 years, till present, sango road still looking like a death trap like before.

Those crying been marginalised are not serious, why do they vote every 4 years. Charity they say begins from home.

As for the 2019 election, my view, Buhari will win though with little margin. Sound mind like you and I know that Nigeria deserves far far better Atiku and Buhari. See, I never see how much Dem go give me Wey I go vote. Waste my vote for sound mind like Moghalu, Duke, Sowore. It means I am left with Atiku and Buhari both 70+. 60% of those who can afford internet 247 do not have energy/ strength to vote( after all Na today we dey vote.

An honest person can never win an election in Nigeria( no way you no go bribe voters if you are serious of winning).Some states heh, Governors spend nothing less than 5bn to win. You heard me right. 5bn. Punch front page political advertisement is 5m+( fact). The individual contestant don't even have such money,that is where godfathers comes in. If as a godfather and you invested 1bn on a candidate, after winning first 1 year, you are expecting at least 5bn. Of course Na our hard earned money the governor go use for sure. Result is little development. I swear if no be say SS get majority of the oil, Nigeria go don tear apart tey ey. And if Na say Na north get am, dem go don break away from Nigeria and be independent ( from their trait and pattern)

It simply means those who we are voting for are not honest from onset. Ambode was outed because of what ? As they claimed, he stepped on many toes . Whose toes? Or he has reduced the way they spend Lagos money anyhow. As much as I like politics, I can never contest for any election in Nigeria.Laye (in my term, only a fool fight for the masses. You can never satisfy everybody so why the stress.

We still have a long way to go. Annoying part be say our current leaders oo, they all complained like us when they were nobody. In Nigeria politics, You can't talk while eating( Case study Shehu Sani)

Not until the voters see an election as their normal right to choose who to represent them and elect credible person. To get it right go hard oo.

Nigeria problems are complex.

raumdeuter:
Awusa Fulani slaves gathering

Leave stupidity for kids. I am disappointed this is coming from you.

argon500:
Restructuring is not the solution at least for now. Not until we see presidential post as ceremonial and channel the energy on how to elect a credible leader from local government chairman to Governor. See we are complaining of about no electricity in some areas, poor road, poor security. Abeg Na when last did the president or Governor pass through your street. Who presidency epp, Obasanjo was a president for a good 8 years, till present, sango road still looking like a death trap like before.

Those crying been marginalised are not serious, why do they vote every 4 years. Charity they say begins from home.

As for the 2019 election, my view, Buhari will win though with little margin. Sound mind like you and I know that Nigeria deserves far far better Atiku and Buhari. See, I never see how much Dem go give me Wey I go vote. Waste my vote for sound mind like Moghalu, Duke, Sowore. It means I am left with Atiku and Buhari both 70+. 60% of those who can afford internet 247 do not have energy/ strength to vote( after all Na today we dey vote.

An honest person can never win an election in Nigeria( no way you no go bribe voters if you are serious of winning).Some states heh, Governors spend nothing less than 5bn to win. You heard me right. 5bn. Punch front page political advertisement is 5m+( fact). The individual contestant don't even have such money,that is where godfathers comes in. If as a godfather and you invested 1bn on a candidate, after winning first 1 year, you are expecting at least 5bn. Of course Na our hard earned money the governor go use for sure. Result is little development. I swear if no be say SS get majority of the oil, Nigeria go don tear apart tey ey. And if Na say Na north get am, dem go don break away from Nigeria and be independent ( from their trait and pattern)

It simply means those who we are voting for are not honest from onset. Ambode was outed because of what ? As they claimed, he stepped on many toes . Whose toes? Or he has reduced the way they spend Lagos money anyhow. As much as I like politics, I can never contest for any election in Nigeria.Laye (in my term, only a fool fight for the masses. You can never satisfy everybody so why the stress.

We still have a long way to go. Annoying part be say our current leaders oo, they all complained like us when they were nobody. In Nigeria politics, You can't talk while eating( Case study Shehu Sani)

Not until the voters see an election as their normal right to choose who to represent them and elect credible person. To get it right go hard oo.

Nigeria problems are complex.

Dont have time for a comprehensive reply. But my guy restructuring is the solution for now. It will not solve everything at once but it will put us on the right track to a very large extent.

We can't change anything until we change the structure which will give us hope to get out of this mess. After that we can fight corruption regionally so that we Dont have "my thief is better than your thief scenarios"

Felixv:
A real Yoruba, well trained one would show respect for other people’s parents.

Omo ale jati jati.

Am sure you are one of those yaboo plus guys who go around stinking to high heaven

Olori buruku jati jati

There is not a single ounce of moslem blood in my family.

Yet, where I come from - Isale eko, we never - I repeat, we never discriminate based on religion

It is ignorant fools like you that spread that slim. For generations gone by and in the future that is the way we will live.

If you want to vote for athithief please do - that is your constitutional right but don’t assume many would want to vote for an economic saboteur like him - a man who was /is only interested in festering his own nests.

One of the worse looters in the country - even obj had to bow to this scumbag criminal

You see, custom officers are trained to steal - it is what they do - duties meant for the government are pocketed , goods meant for individuals are stolen. The racket stinks.

Visit tin can island and see atiku’s breed at work.

You can continue rattling on, I am only interested in the boldened. You can deceive people all you want but it won't change the fact that yoruba moslems are not tolerant. What happened during Ekiti and osun elections are all testament and what MURIC are doing.

Has it ever occurred to you that no single yoruba moslem top politician is in Atiku's camp?

Has it ever occurred to you that the most hated Yoruba politicians are all Christians. What has Fayose done that Tinubu is innocent of?

Has it ever occurred to why majority of yoruba moslems are APC- a pro-moslem party unlike PDP that is not tinted towards any religion.

When Emir of Iwo declared Iwo an Islamic emirate without consulting Christians does this sound like tolerance to you?

Yoruba Christians are the tolerant ones and this is going to be their undoing.

Yoruba moslems would always tell you that they don't discriminate, yet it is very rare to see a Yoruba moslem father giving out the daughter in marriage to a Christian like the way their Christians give out a daughter in marriage to a moslem.

Yoruba moslems are bringing dangerous religious dimension to SW politics and in about 25 years time, extremism would overtake SW.

Watch!!!

KingRagnar:
Chai!, if truly the Ndigbos and the rest Igbo association are supporting Atiku because of his promise to restructure this country, then I must say, the decision is certainly far from wise. Ndigbos just took an awful, unproductive bait.

Why is it when it comes to Ndi Igbo everyone would be giving opinion on how an Igbo man should live?

You guys are becoming pathetic. We have chosen to stand with a known creator of wealth and you guys have chosen to stand with a known jihadist, recessionist and protector of the corrupt. We respect your guys' choice why not allow us to be?

sekundosekundo:
Have you finished? Oya goan collect money from Buhari.

Sorry, Trump said he is lifeless.

AkpaMgbor:
You're a bastard of epic proportion for calling Igbos swines..you and your household are perpetual fvcktards for saying that..

e pain am. Sorry, you failed to understand what i meant. Now you are very hurt and pained. Ain't my fault.