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Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by mekaboy(op): 11:15am On Nov 27, 2018
omoowo8888:
Trash as usual...not surprised
We meet again. grin grin
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by zlantanfan: 11:26am On Nov 27, 2018
mekaboy:
There must be a problem with your comprehension here. But u will understand as events play out.
you are the one with problem here, you believe tinubu would work for atiku but I can assure you he stands nothing to gain by that arrangement ( atiku doesn't have anything not even money to court a tinubu).


Consider the circumstances surrounding the last time tinubu made such concessions and now is a whole different scenario.

Tinubu has benefited, still benefits and would continue to benefit a whole lot from this arrangement as well as his region, in fact saraki, atiku etc only left APC because they weren't assured of the presidency plus only the buhari and tinubu groups were perceived to be benefiting by the arrangement.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by zlantanfan: 11:30am On Nov 27, 2018
mekaboy:
The presidency is not going to SW even if Buhari wins.
lol, where then is it going the east that would be voting PDP in 2019 and still loose abi?
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by mekaboy(op): 11:33am On Nov 27, 2018
zlantanfan:
you are the one with problem here, you believe tinubu would work for atiku but I can assure you he stands nothing to gain by that arrangement ( atiku doesn't have anything not even money to court a tinubu).


Consider the circumstances surrounding the last time tinubu made such concessions and now is a whole different scenario.

Tinubu has benefited, still benefits and would continue to benefit a whole lot from this arrangement as well as his region, in fact saraki, atiku etc only left APC because they weren't assured of the presidency plus only the buhari and tinubu groups were perceived to be benefiting by the arrangement.
There is more to the life of a politician than money. With all the money in the world, tinubu can be reduced to nothing over night by the president.

Is it money he lacked when his wife said he was humiliated by the party he worked for?

There is something he needed that he did not get, and Atiku would offer him that.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by mekaboy(op): 11:36am On Nov 27, 2018
zlantanfan:
lol, where then is it going the east that would be voting PDP in 2019 and still loose abi?
And the west will vote?
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by zlantanfan: 11:42am On Nov 27, 2018
mekaboy:
There is more to the life of a politician than money. With all the money in the world, tinubu can be reduced to nothing over night by the president.

Is it money he lacked when his wife said he was humiliated by the party he worked for?

There is something he needed that he did not get, and Atiku would offer him that.
lol, a man whose empire didn't crumble under obj, what method can bring him down (is it efcc that he has dursted before) their is no position or power anyone can offer tinubu (except president) that he isn't bigger than already
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by zlantanfan: 11:44am On Nov 27, 2018
mekaboy:
And the west will vote?
if you guys aren't OSU lepers in your region whose votes and opinions doesn't determine anything why are you sweating irredeemably to beg tinubu for support.


What kind of slaves exist in the east
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by Nobody: 11:50am On Nov 27, 2018
mekaboy:
The presidency is not going to SW even if Buhari wins.
That is your own opinion but nothing stops Tinubu from working towards that happening given how the SW has supported Buhari while the Igbos remain his passionate haters and gave the PDP GEJ almost 100% of their votes with same likely to happen for Atiku. While on the topic, 2023 is not going to the SE and you better accept that . No one, least of all the influential North, will risk trusting Igbos with power right now for obvious reasons.

The self-harming behaviour of the Igbos, in the last 9 years, starting from when GEJ became President, and lost the Presidency, has been disturbing and scary to say the least. You need to remind us who the North gave quit notice to for always insulting and pouring invectives on the region and claiming others are the problem of Nigeria. The Igbos have no strong political allies right now and that is their own fault. You can't insult others non-stop and profess open hatred for them for years to then seek their electoral support.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by mekaboy(op): 11:52am On Nov 27, 2018
zlantanfan:
if you guys aren't OSU lepers in your region whose votes and opinions doesn't determine anything why are you sweating irredeemably to beg tinubu for support.


What kind of slaves exist in the east
The kind that smiles in public while crying at home. The type that his wife speaks out for.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by mekaboy(op): 11:56am On Nov 27, 2018
Oshigun:
That is your own opinion but nothing stops Tinubu from working towards that happening given how the SW has supported Buhari while the Igbos remain his passionate haters and gave the PDP GEJ almost 100% of their votes with same likely to happen for Atiku. While on the topic, 2023 is not going to the SE and you better accept that . No one, least of all the influential North, will risk trusting Igbos with power right now for obvious reasons.

The self-harming behaviour of the Igbos, in the last 9 years, starting from when GEJ became President, and lost the Presidency, has been disturbing and scary to say the least. You need to remind us who the North gave quit notice to for always insulting and pouring invectives on the region and claiming others are the problem of Nigeria. The Igbos have no strong political allies right now and that is their own fault. You can't insult others non-stop and profess open hatred for them for years to then seek their electoral support.
And you believe the North will trust the yoruba more than an Igbo?

Ask Abiola or fella kuti how far.

https://www.nairaland.com/2562339/yorubas-problem-nigeria-sanusi-lamido
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by Nobody: 12:03pm On Nov 27, 2018
mekaboy:
There is more to the life of a politician than money. With all the money in the world, tinubu can be reduced to nothing over night by the president.

Is it money he lacked when his wife said he was humiliated by the party he worked for?

There is something he needed that he did not get, and Atiku would offer him that.
Pray tell us what Atiku can offer that will be tempting to Jagaban. Atiku who has already said he will support Igbo Presidency? That is the biggest reason for Tinubu to work very hard against him !!!! You are so desperate to see Tinubu help Atiku because you obviously know the importance of the SW unlike your more emotional and hate-filled IPOBian brothers.

Yet you cannot comprehend what is easy to see which is that Atiku's political ambition is toxic to Tinubu's political interest. Yes Tinubu will work for an Atiku win so that Saraki can use the legislative arm to hound him personally and frustrate the SW even more than he is doing to the PMB government today.

Indeed Tinubu will secure an Atiku win so the PDP he shed blood to oust will begin a new incursion into the SW using the executive and legislative arm. You are one smart guy. An Einstein even since you cannot comprehend that Tinubu is not suicidal. .
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by mekaboy(op): 12:08pm On Nov 27, 2018
Oshigun:
Pray tell us what Atiku can offer that will be tempting to Jagaban. Atiku who has already said he will support Igbo Presidency? That is the biggest reason for Tinubu to work very hard against him !!!! You are so desperate to see Tinubu help Atiku because you obviously know the importance of the SW unlike your more emotional and hate-filled IPOBian brothers.

Yet you cannot comprehend what is easy to see which is that Atiku's political ambition is toxic to Tinubu's political interest. Yes Tinubu will work for an Atiku win so that Saraki can use the legislative arm to hound him personally and frustrate the SW even more than he is doing to the PMB government today.

Indeed Tinubu will secure an Atiku win so the PDP he shed blood to oust will begin a new incursion into the SW using the executive and legislative arm. You are one smart guy. An Einstein even since you cannot comprehend that Tinubu is not suicidal. .
Tinubu has always been with Atiku. When he sold part of his shares in intel to Tinubu, you were not there. So you think Tinubu is going through all the humiliation to to return power to the SW?

And those that humiliated him will hand over power to the SW for him to revenge?

Wake up, even Tinubu knows that power iys not returning to the SW in 2023.

The best he can get is a restructured Nigeria that can give him full control of the region. Which is still not possible under buhari.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by Nobody: 12:15pm On Nov 27, 2018
mekaboy:
And you believe the North will trust the yoruba more than an Igbo?

Ask Abiola or fella kuti how far.

https://www.nairaland.com/2562339/yorubas-problem-nigeria-sanusi-lamido
Do you ever accept reality? Given the events of the past decade you expect the North to trust Igbos ahead of the Yorubas who helped them gain the Presidency while you lot could only insult them and shout "GEJ or Nigeria burns" in 2015 to then shout "Biafra or death" after GEJ lost?

That is why Igbos do badly at mainstream politics. You guys are too emotional and never accept reality. Keep obsessing over the past and ignore today with new reality and new players. You will be shocked in 2023 if you think the North will reject electoral allies who delievered for them to embrace those who openly profess hate for them.

If it were Yorubas in the shoes of Igbos today we will pragmatically accept our national stock is low and make effort to build bridges to amend this and not be shouting arrogantly all over the place insinuating we have the right to reap where we did not sow. Total bunkum only you guys can come out with.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by Nobody:
mekaboy:
Tinubu has always been with Atiku. When he sold part of his shares in intel to Tinubu, you were not there. So you think Tinubu is going through all the humiliation to to return power to the SW?

And those that humiliated him will hand over power to the SW for him to revenge?

Wake up, even Tinubu knows that power iys not returning to the SW in 2023.

The best he can get is a restructured Nigeria that can give him full control of the region. Which is still not possible under buhari.
Once again, the emotion-tainted talk continues. Tinubu is the ultimate political animal. He is driven by permanent interest and not permanent friendship or enmity.

His permanent interest, if you are still yet to discern it, is progress for the SW and the region attaining the apex of political power in Nigeria.

The guy has no interest in revenge. It is only you guys obsessed with politics of revenge and hate. Tinubu is working pragmatically with PMB to get what he wants. That is his number one motivation and this is why he came when PMB summoned him. Like it or not but an honest and pragmatic man will say Tinubu cannot have too many complaints.

All SW States now have APC governors. The SW is gaining some really pivotal capital projects the PDP ignored under OBJ and GEJ. The Vice President, Many Yoruba ministers and Tinubu boys are some of the most powerful in Nigeria today when this was never the case under OBJ or GEJ.

Yet you ridiculously insinuate Tinubu will throw that and much more away for some silly shares that likely see him spending the rest of his poltical career back to the Egypt of political opposition? Your thinking is excellent to say the least.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by mekaboy(op): 12:28pm On Nov 27, 2018
Oshigun:
Do you ever accept reality? Given the events of the past decade you expect the North to trust Igbos ahead of the Yorubas who helped them gain the Presidency while you lot could only insult them and shout "GEJ or Nigeria burns" in 2015 to then shout "Biafra or death" after GEJ lost?

That is why Igbos do badly at mainstream politics. You guys are too emotional and never accept reality. Keep obsessing over the past and ignore today with new reality and new players. You will be shocked in 2023 if you think the North will reject electoral allies who delievered for them to embrace those who openly profess hate for them.

If it were Yorubas in the shoes of Igbos today we will pragmatically accept our national stock is low and make effort to build bridges to amend this and not be shouting arrogantly all over the place insinuating we have the right to reap where we did not saw. Total bunkum only you guys can come out with.
Which electoral allies? The one they humiliated in the first tenure?

My brother, with all the troubles of the Igbos, the North still trust them. Yes, igbos are brave and outspoken. They can't swallow humiliation like others because of politics. They believe they can survive without presidency. The North knows that when an igbos says I stand here, that's where they stand unlike some people.

Yes igbos don't stand in the line long enough to get presidency, because once you piss them off the say, to he'll with the presidency and tell you their mind.

But the truth is that Northerners will still trust that troublesome igbos with power than the humiliation swallowing yoruba.

Now Yorubas don't want igbo president, North can't trust yoruba president. So at the end of the day, an Igbo president will still have to be the mediator between the North and south.

The North needs an igbos president more than the igbos. They can't and will not hand over to the yorubas. They rather repeat Abiola saga than hand over to yorubas.

The North needs a president that can.give their word in their interest, and only an igbo man can guaranty that.

That a why the yorubas will rather stay away from the North the way Tinubu is staying away from Buhari.

But the igbos will live among the yoruba and Northerners. Get what the North has, take to the west and sell to the yorubas.

How many yorubas live and invest in the North? That is where the trust is built, not politics.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by mekaboy(op): 12:30pm On Nov 27, 2018
Oshigun:
Once again, the emotion-tainted talk continues. Tinubu is the ultimate political animal. He is driven by permanent interest and not permanent friendship or enmity.

His permanent interest, if you still yet to discern it, his progress for the SW and the region attaining the apex of political power in Nigeria.

The guy has no interest in revenge. It is only you guys obsessed with politics of revenge and hate. Tinubu is working pragmatically with PMB to get what he wants. That is his number one motivation and this is why he came when PMB summoned him. Like it or not but an honest and pragmayic man will say Tinubu cannot have too many complaints.

All SW States now have APC governors. The SW is gaining some really pivotal capital projects the PDP ignored under OBJ and GEJ. The Vice President, Many Yoruba ministers and Tinubu boys are some of the most powerful in Nigeria today when this was never the case under OBJ or GEJ.

Yet you ridiculously insinuate Tinubu will throw that and much more away for some silly shares that likely see him spending the rest of his poltical career back to the Egypt of political opposition? Your thinking is excellent to say the least.
Name the projects.

Every state has ministers.

The finance minister from the west was removed for a Northerner to take over. What are u saying?
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by Nobody: 12:38pm On Nov 27, 2018
mekaboy:
Which electoral allies? The one they humiliated in the first tenure?

My brother, with all the troubles of the Igbos, the North still trust them. Yes, igbos are brave and outspoken. They can't swallow humiliation like others because of politics. They believe they can survive without presidency. The North knows that when an igbos says I stand here, that's where they stand unlike some people.

Yes igbos don't stand in the line long enough to get presidency, because once you piss them off the say, to he'll with the presidency and tell you their mind.

But the truth is that Northerners will still trust that troublesome igbos with power than the humiliation swallowing yoruba.

Now Yorubas don't want igbo president, North can't trust yoruba president. So at the end of the day, an Igbo president will still have to be the mediator between the North and south.

The North needs an igbos president more than the igbos. They can't and will not hand over to the yorubas. They rather repeat Abiola saga than hand over to yorubas.

The North needs a president that can.give their word in their interest, and only an igbo man can guaranty that.

That a why the yorubas will rather stay away from the North the way Tinubu is staying away from Buhari.

But the igbos will live among the yoruba and Northerners. Get what the North has, take to the west and sell to the yorubas.

How many yorubas live and invest in the North? That is where the trust is built, not politics.
I thought you had sense until I came across this grin. Tinubu can never and will never work with Atiku. It can only happen in your dreams.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by Nobody: 12:47pm On Nov 27, 2018
mekaboy:
Which electoral allies? The one they humiliated in the first tenure?

My brother, with all the troubles of the Igbos, the North still trust them. Yes, igbos are brave and outspoken. They can't swallow humiliation like others because of politics. They believe they can survive without presidency. The North knows that when an igbos says I stand here, that's where they stand unlike some people.

Yes igbos don't stand in the line long enough to get presidency, because once you piss them off the say, to he'll with the presidency and tell you their mind.

But the truth is that Northerners will still trust that troublesome igbos with power than the humiliation swallowing yoruba.

Now Yorubas don't want igbo president, North can't trust yoruba president. So at the end of the day, an Igbo president will still have to be the mediator between the North and south.

The North needs an igbos president more than the igbos. They can't and will not hand over to the yorubas. They rather repeat Abiola saga than hand over to yorubas.

The North needs a president that can.give their word in their interest, and only an igbo man can guaranty that.

That a why the yorubas will rather stay away from the North the way Tinubu is staying away from Buhari.

But the igbos will live among the yoruba and Northerners. Get what the North has, take to the west and sell to the yorubas.

How many yorubas live and invest in the North? That is where the trust is built, not politics.
Seriously, this is the obduracy, emotional talk and entirely unrealistic outlook that has rendered the Igbos politically irrelevant in Nigeria. You keep banging on about Abiola, Lamido Sanusi et al without realising there are new realities and new players at work today.

Even indulging your flawed historical fantasy, are you saying the North will only be guided by ancient history while ignoring what igbos are doing directly against them today? They will ignore the negative experience with the Igbos over the past decades and Kanu/IPOB current antics.

They will then reject their good and cordial relationship with the SW over the same period to support the ambition of those who openly profess hatred for them and bang on about secession the North is not a fan of and will feel the Igbos want to gain through the Presidency? You guys are so emotional, unrepentant and frankly delusional to the point it is tragic to witness.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by mekaboy(op): 12:50pm On Nov 27, 2018
Oshigun:
Seriously, this is the obduracy and emotional talk and outlook that has rendered the Igbos the worst politicians in Nigeria. You keep banging on about Abiola, Lamido Sanusi et al without realising there are new realities and new players at work today.

Even indulging your flawed historical fantasy, are you saying the North will only be guided by ancient history while ignoring what igbos are doing directly against them today? They will ignore the negative experience with the Igbos over the past decades and Kanu/IPOB current antics.

They will then reject their good and cordial relationship with the SW over the same period to support the ambition of those who openly profess hatred for them and bang on about secession the North is not a fan of and will feel the Igbos want to gain through the Presidency? You guys are so emotional, unrepentant and frankly delusional to the point it is tragic to witness.
With everything Kanu and the Igbos are doing, the igbos are still living with them. But the yoruba allies choose to keep a distance. They know the real enemies.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by Nobody: 1:09pm On Nov 27, 2018
mekaboy:
With everything Kanu and the Igbos are doing, the igbos are still living with them. But the yoruba allies choose to keep a distance. They know the real enemies.
Be deluding yourself. Northerners live peacefully in the SW and share religion with many of the people there. We are welcoming to them and have no animosity towards them. That Yorubas are not plentiful in the North as Igbos are is not "to keep a distance". Yorubas are not money-obsessed. We will migrate for better financial opportunies and comparatively good/better lifestyle. Money is not the sole determinant of where we choose to live in or move to.

Whether you want to admit it or not, most Yorubas already feel they have the best lifestyle they can live in Nigeria in the SW. Culture, entertainment, security, professional job market, harmonious religious/ ethnic co-existence with others etc, etc. When Opportunities to gain an overall better life presents itself then the Yorubas take it hence their large numbers in the UK, USA and other nations more developed than their own.

Going to open a shop in Afghanistan does not mean you love the people there. It may just show you love money above everything else and will even live in a war zone for the chance to make money. Not all others are like that.

So therefore you living in the North means nothing as they know, certainly today anyway, you are there for money and do not love or respect them . Hence their youth, perhaps more radical and intolerant than the old generation giving Igbos 3 months to leave the North. Look at how you guys even insult Northerners here daily. The younger ones, unlike the older generation, can now access these hateful rants targeted against them and will sensitize others. Keep deluding yourself anyway. It is what you do.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by mekaboy(op): 1:20pm On Nov 27, 2018
Oshigun:
Be deluding yourself. Northerners live peacefully in the SW and share religion with many of the people there. Yorubas are not money-obsessed. We will migrate for better financial opportunies and comparatively good/better lifestyle.

Whether you want to admit it or not, most Yorubas already feel they have the best lifestyle they can live in Nigeria in the SW. Culture, entertainment, security, professional job market, harmonious religious/ ethnic co-existence with others etc, etc. When Opportunities to gain an overall better life presents itself then the Yorubas take it hence their large numbers in the UK, USA and other nations more developed than their own.

That you live in the North means nothing as they know, certainly today anyway, you are there for money and do not love or respect them . Hence their youth, perhaps more radical and intolerant than the old generation gaving Igbos 3 months to leave the North. Look at how you guys even insult Northerners here daily. The younger ones, unlike the older generation, can now access these hateful rants targeted against them and will sensitize others. Keep deluding yourself anyway. It is what you do.
Did the igbos leave the North? Can u live with people you don't trust?

Even the young northerner youths are told by their fathers who is a real threat between igbos and yorubas.

The youbas hardly leave outside because they can't trust themselves, talk more of others. They know they can easily betray and therefore, believe can will also be betrayed.

Igbos know they can be trusted, they move in to dangerous territories because they can be trusted. Even the most dangerous dictators in the world, still respect people they can trust.

The North needs someone they can trust their word and that's the igbos. The SW still needs someone they can trust, and it happens to be the same igbos.

Even when Obasanjo was in power, he needed okonjo iweala that he can trust with the finances of this Nation.

He told buhari that the only way he support him was pick okonjo iweala as vp. Because be could trust her with the finances of this Nation.

Now Buhari took Adeosun just to please the west, and in less than 3 years, the true colour showed. He didn't even care about what the west will say, he just replaced her with a Northerner he can trust. If not that 2019 was around the corner, he would have gotten an igbo to replace her.

He would say in his mind that Obasanjo was right.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by Firgemachar: 1:50pm On Nov 27, 2018
mekaboy:
[s]Which electoral allies? The one they humiliated in the first tenure?

My brother, with all the troubles of the Igbos, the North still trust them. Yes, igbos are brave and outspoken. They can't swallow humiliation like others because of politics. They believe they can survive without presidency. The North knows that when an igbos says I stand here, that's where they stand unlike some people.

Yes igbos don't stand in the line long enough to get presidency, because once you piss them off the say, to he'll with the presidency and tell you their mind.

But the truth is that Northerners will still trust that troublesome igbos with power than the humiliation swallowing yoruba.

Now Yorubas don't want igbo president, North can't trust yoruba president. So at the end of the day, an Igbo president will still have to be the mediator between the North and south.

The North needs an igbos president more than the igbos. They can't and will not hand over to the yorubas. They rather repeat Abiola saga than hand over to yorubas.

The North needs a president that can.give their word in their interest, and only an igbo man can guaranty that.

That a why the yorubas will rather stay away from the North the way Tinubu is staying away from Buhari.

But the igbos will live among the yoruba and Northerners. Get what the North has, take to the west and sell to the yorubas.

How many yorubas live and invest in the North? That is where the trust is built, not politics.[/s]
Rubbish!

You speak like someone in his early twenties.

How can Igbos be gunning for VP under Atiku and at the same time be 'longthroating' 2023 presidency under APChuh
Isn't that dafthuh

I will like to see Yoruba and Igbo go head to head in 2023 for the presidency.

Any Abiola scenario will always produce an Obasanjo.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by mekaboy(op): 2:09pm On Nov 27, 2018
Firgemachar:
Rubbish!

You speak like someone in his early twenties.

How can Igbos be gunning for VP under Atiku and at the same time be 'longthroating' 2023 presidency under APChuh
Isn't that dafthuh

I will like to see Yoruba and Igbo go head to head in 2023 for the presidency.

Any Abiola scenario will always produce an Obasanjo.
Igbos are more interested in a Nigeria which works for all than presidency. They are not like those that will sell their own for VP position. Elevate osibanjo and humiliated tinubu.

Igbos are not eyeing the presidency, the presidency is eyeing them. They just want th igbos to stay one place so that it will be handed over. They are the ones that both the North, and yorubas hate, but can only trust.

Igbos are still willing to sacrifice their ambition for a working Nigeria.

Yes, Osibanjo was made VP and over 11 million Nigerians lost their jobs, including those that voted buhari because of tinubu in his television station. Even lost, olu falaye humiliated and adeosun dismissed, Tinubu humiliated. So is the VP position worth all that?

Isn't this pastor tunde bakare that campaigned for him expressing shock?


https://www.thecable.ng/232093-2/amp

https://www.thecable.ng/232093-2/amp

That was a wrong move, which even Tinubu knows.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by Nobody: 2:31pm On Nov 27, 2018
mekaboy:
Igbos are more interested in a Nigeria which works for all than presidency. They are not like those that will sell their own for VP position. Elevate osibanjo and humiliated tinubu.

Igbos are not eyeing the presidency, the presidency is eyeing them. They just want th igbos to stay one place so that it will be handed over. They are the ones that both the North, and yorubas hate, but can only trust.

Igbos are still willing to sacrifice their ambition for a working Nigeria.

Yes, Osibanjo was made VP and over 11 million Nigerians lost their jobs, including those that voted buhari because of tinubu in his television station. Even lost, olu falaye humiliated and adeosun dismissed, Tinubu humiliated. So is the VP position worth all that?

Isn't this pastor tunde bakare that campaigned for him expressing shock?


https://www.thecable.ng/232093-2/amp

https://www.thecable.ng/232093-2/amp

That was a wrong move, which even Tinubu knows.
The main problem with you and most Igbos is that you say what you wish to happen rather than what the reality of the day indicates can happen. All your fabrications above are not even worth addressing suffice to say anyone who works with the reality on the ground will accept Igbos cannot produce the President in 2023. May God spare us all till then.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by mekaboy(op): 3:05pm On Nov 27, 2018
Oshigun:
The main problem with you and most Igbos is that you say what you wish to happen rather than what the reality of the day indicates can happen. All your fabrications above are not even worth addressing suffice to say anyone who works with the reality on the ground will accept Igbos cannot produce the President in 2023. May God spare us all till then.
You might be right but that also means we will never have a Nigeria that works. Because even the yorubas that voted Buhari because of tinubu have lost their jobs today. Tinubu himself who worked for Buhari is humiliated. We have become the poverty capital of the world and I am Sure that igbos don't contribute up to 10 % of those extremely poor in Nigeria.

The more you try to suppress the igbos the more the entire nation sinks.

You don't want igbos to have a sea port close to them so they can come to Lagos? No problem, they come with their business, buy land build houses. Drag their customers to Lagos. Then everyone has to suffer the traffic. The same people who want to work against the igbos I'll wake up by 3 am to go to work, come back by 11 pm because of traffic. Endanger their health because of lack of sleep. So you can work against the igbos and have peace.

By 2023, both the North and the West will beg the igbos to become president for peace and trust to reign.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by Nobody: 5:15pm On Nov 27, 2018
Mekaboy, my brother, how market? Is this not what I have been telling you now confirmed today with Tinubu's statement at the swearing in of Osun Governor?

https://www.nairaland.com/4870594/solidly-behind-buhari-no-room
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by mekaboy(op): 5:23pm On Nov 27, 2018
Oshigun:
Mekaboy, my brother, how market? Is this not what I have been telling you now confirmed today with Tinubu's statement at the swearing in of Osun Governor?

https://www.nairaland.com/4870594/solidly-behind-buhari-no-room
Lol. The same tinubu that betrayed ambode? The one in the picture below? He is consistent with his character of change. Do u expect him to attack buhari publicly and join the travel ban list?

Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by Nobody: 5:52pm On Nov 27, 2018
mekaboy:
Lol. The same tinubu that betrayed ambode? The one in the picture below? He is consistent with his character of change. Do u expect him to attack buhari publicly and join the travel ban list?
You should stop commenting on SW politics. Clearly you are fascinated by our politics but you simply don't know enough to be an informed or even minimally useful critic.

Tinubu did not betray Ambode. Ambode betrayed himself. The guy was so arrogant and disrespectful to APC leaders who made him Governor that the decision to remove him was unanimous. Did you not see the result of the guber primaries where Sanwo-Olu defeated Ambode with over 800,000.00 votes? Does that not show how unpopular Ambode was? Tinubu even initially tried to protect Ambode but the noise of "Ambode must go" from APC leaders was so unanimously loud that Tinubu had to chill.

Ambode had no political structure and was an unknown many worked to make Governor only for him to become dismissive and arrogant towards those who battled for his emergence. Furthermore, he was not helped by a Patience Faka GEJ-type of wife he could not keep in check who went around offending everyone. Even Ambode knows he erred.

That is why he is going around today in total commitment to the APC project despite being ousted. That is Yoruba political sophistication at work right there you will never understand let alone learn to use to be politically effective. Look at the vote below to understand this was beyond Tinubu and was a very well-supported ambush of a a Governor everyone wanted gone.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.pulse.ng/news/politics/sanwo-olu-defeats-ambode-with-over-800-000-votes-id8929891.html
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by Quorax: 5:53pm On Nov 27, 2018
Sirjamo:
Obi's five minutes fame has gone with the wind, they are now back to Tinubu again
who told u 5 minutes fame? Lol... All these one banking on division in the east to gain upper hand will be disgraced when it is time.
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by Nobody: 6:13pm On Nov 27, 2018
Mekaboy you see the circumspect nature of the Yorubas that keep us effective? We don't cry more than the bereaved.

You want to comment about Yoruba politics yet you are not even minimally informed enough to be an effective commentator. Ambode offended virtually everyone and the decision to get him out was out of Tinubu's hands yet you will rather accuse Jagaban wrongly because of your undiluted hatred and envy of the man. Might as well accuse Tinubu of replacing Buhari with Jibril or Jubrin.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2018/10/04/ambode-and-the-godfathers-rage/%3famp


Ambode’s human relations is another issue altogether. Generally regarded as arrogant and distant, even by peers, there is hardly any prominent citizen in Lagos who speaks well of him. Besides, unlike most other states where commissioners are glorified errand boys, Lagos has always been different with commissioners that had the authority of their ranks. That was until Ambode came. A commissioner told me as far back as March this year: “Our Exco meetings are nothing but a joke. The governor is the only thinker and he doesn’t like debate. He comes with pre-conceived ideas and any contrary opinions would be met with a stern ‘I am the governor here’ rebuke. The person I pity most is the deputy governor. Contrary to what has been established over the years in the state, it took Asiwaju’s intervention for her to be given approval to control the education ministry. But she can’t go beyond that ministry so effectively, the governor has reduced her to a commissioner.”
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by TAO11(f): 7:03pm On Nov 27, 2018
mekaboy:
Which electoral allies? The one they humiliated in the first tenure?

My brother, with all the troubles of the Igbos, the North still trust them. Yes, igbos are brave and outspoken. They can't swallow humiliation like others because of politics. They believe they can survive without presidency. The North knows that when an igbos says I stand here, that's where they stand unlike some people.

Yes igbos don't stand in the line long enough to get presidency, because once you piss them off the say, to he'll with the presidency and tell you their mind.

But the truth is that Northerners will still trust that troublesome igbos with power than the humiliation swallowing yoruba.

Now Yorubas don't want igbo president, North can't trust yoruba president. So at the end of the day, an Igbo president will still have to be the mediator between the North and south.

The North needs an igbos president more than the igbos. They can't and will not hand over to the yorubas. They rather repeat Abiola saga than hand over to yorubas.

The North needs a president that can.give their word in their interest, and only an igbo man can guaranty that.

That a why the yorubas will rather stay away from the North the way Tinubu is staying away from Buhari.

But the igbos will live among the yoruba and Northerners. Get what the North has, take to the west and sell to the yorubas.

How many yorubas live and invest in the North? That is where the trust is built, not politics.
I feel your passionate delusion bro grin
Re: Can Tinubu Handle The Next Level Of Humiliation? by TAO11(f): 7:04pm On Nov 27, 2018
kemicalreaction:
I thought you had sense until I came across this grin. Tinubu can never and will never work with Atiku. It can only happen in your dreams.
I swear same here grin
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