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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 11:44am On Nov 29, 2018
raumdeuter:
Of those 6 miserable seasons hazard had in the CL, he only played one with morata but hensbrain wants to convince us that morata is the problem with hidden hazard
Hazard played under a defensive coach and came to Chelsea when the team was no longer in their best in ucl and still not in their best. They are struggling among their equals in ucl.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc2: 11:46am On Nov 29, 2018
Ibime:
That's why I said he's in the top 2. You already know who my number 1 is.
Are you sure he is top 2? Where do you place Pep Guardiola, Koeman, Rijkaard, Matthaus, Redondo?

If some of those older guys had played in this modern era of tackle-less football they might have been even better.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Heywhizzy(m): 11:47am On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
Someone that came second at WC is not world class? Or someone that conquered league 1 with average Lille at the age of 19/20 is not world class? Same league Neymar is getting praise while playing for the best club there with no challenge. Lol.

The way una Dey reason football Dey baffle me. You guys should learn how to put things into consideration when discussing football.


I like pep just as I like Sarri cos of their style of play, but despise Mou style of play but I use my head when comparing pep and Mou in terms of achievement. I can not just because of sentiments and be talking Mou down, I’m aware it is more easier to achieve ucl with Barcelona than with Porto or inter Milan due to the financial power and talents the former posseses than the later.
I said Hazard is world-class, anyone can argue it from his point of view, there are pundits that are stats reliant but it's only an idiot that would doubt Neymar being world class.. Hazard is good, Neymar and some others are better


Mourinho is my top two coach, mainly for his personality and numbers to back it up, so I don't know why you're bringing him up
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 11:49am On Nov 29, 2018
airmark:
Lover of whoscored? It seems you don dey craze.
I was expecting you to blame Karius or Milner for vvd shameful and disgraceful display last night
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by thorrvik55(m): 11:50am On Nov 29, 2018
Heywhizzy:
When Costa/Drogba/Eto'o/Torres was there.. Did he shine as much as Neymar is shining in PSG cos if I mentioned Barcelona, you'll start talking Messi
Just so u know, hazard won 2 league titles with costa...
Wot do u mean by neymar is shining at psg?
Since neymar left barcelona, mention one tin he has achieved...
Just so u know, if neymar was injured for the whole season psg will still win the league with at least 30 points.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 11:51am On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
Hazard played under a defensive coach and came to Chelsea when the team was no longer in their best in ucl and still not in their best. They are struggling among their equals in ucl.
See silly excuses. So it's no longer morata, it's no longer willian it's no longer old etoo and Drogba

It's now the coaches that held him from scoring.
How many CL goals does willian have with these coaches
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 11:52am On Nov 29, 2018
thorrvik55:
Just so u know, hazard won 2 league titles with costa...
Wot do u mean by neymar is shining at psg?
Since neymar left barcelona, mention one tin he has achieved...
Just so u know, if neymar was injured for the whole season psg will still win the league with at least 30 points.
How many CL goals does hazard have in his entire career
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 11:54am On Nov 29, 2018
raumdeuter:
How many CL goals did he have while Costa was here? At least Costa was here for 3 full seasons
Neymar is still yet to win Balon d’or with his ucl goals. Overall performance matters and how far your team go. Hazard played under a defensive coach when costa was there, a coach that always want him to join midfield and defense instead of attack. Are you aware playing football is 60 percent mentality Mou is more of a psycique coach so he always want you to do what he want from you on the field of play rather than expressing your ability as a player.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by homesteady(m): 11:55am On Nov 29, 2018
So in summary, Kante should be dropped? Come and see American wonder..

In all of these Kante and Jorginho brouhaha happening here, Busquets is just the winner grin Abeg all of you should fall in line and pay homage to one of the greatest DM of this generation.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 11:55am On Nov 29, 2018
Afolabi6046:
Rumdeuter's knowledge of football is largely based on what other blogs say, he doesn't really use his eyes like blabs about grin Because if he does, he would notice VVD got the ball first
You cannot get the ball by sweeping the attackers feet away. Outside the box that will be blown as a foul
I will even say if the player involved was not neymar the penalty would be given

I watched the ball, showed you the gif over half of neutral people watching who are not liverpool fans think it was a penalty. These type of calls get blown everyday
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Heywhizzy(m): 11:56am On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
He shined when costa was there, he won epl best player when costa was there. Eto and drogba were not in their prime and Torres performed below average at CFC.
Shine pass Shine oga.. Same season where Neymar joined the duopoly of top Champions League goalscorers per season


There would always be excuses, Cavani is now one kind of spectacular striker... Cavani lost a clear tap-in yday but it is suitable to say Neymar scored from a cavani rebound, if na Morata, all hell would have been let loose, you would see Nike air max, hazardfan1 and Hensbrain shouting see Morata (like we're blind), he almost spoiled hazard moves, etcetera etcetera

I'm afraid if he goes to Madrid, they would tell us that he went when they were deteriorating
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 11:56am On Nov 29, 2018
raumdeuter:
See silly excuses. So it's no longer morata, it's no longer willian it's no longer old etoo and Drogba

It's now the coaches that held him from scoring.
How many CL goals does willian have with these coaches
I answered you up there.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 11:57am On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
Neymar is still yet to win Balon d’or with his ucl goals. Overall performance matters and how far your team go. Hazard played under a defensive coach when costa was there, a coach that always want him to join midfield and defense instead of attack. Are you aware playing football is 60 percent mentality Mou is more of a psycique coach so he always want you to do what he want from you on the field of play rather than expressing your ability as a player.
Neymar finished 3rd balon dor. That means if messi and ronaldo no dey here would have won, what's the highest hidden shakushaku ever finished
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by thorrvik55(m): 11:57am On Nov 29, 2018
raumdeuter:
How many CL goals does hazard have in his entire career
This is d part where u tell me d number of champions league goals neymar has in his career and the number of champions league goals he has this season, rite?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 11:58am On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
I answered you up there.
How many CL goals does willian have abi is he not playing with the same defensive coaches that are hindering hazard plus morata
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 11:59am On Nov 29, 2018
thorrvik55:
This is d part where u tell me d number of champions league goals neymar has in his career and the number of champions league goals he has this season, rite?
Yes you know how it goes.

Neymar came to Europe in 2013 he's already the highest scoring Brazilian in the CL.

Hidden hazard has played 6 seasons scored 4 CL goals from open play
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 12:02pm On Nov 29, 2018
Heywhizzy:
Shine pass Shine oga.. Same season where Neymar joined the duopoly of top Champions League goalscorers per season


There would always be excuses, Cavani is now one kind of spectacular striker... Cavani lost a clear tap-in yday but it is suitable to say Neymar scored from a cavani rebound, if na Morata, all hell would have been let loose, you would see Nike air max, hazardfan1 and Hensbrain shouting see Morata (like we're blind), he almost spoiled hazard moves, etcetera etcetera

I'm afraid if he goes to Madrid, they would tell us that he went when they were deteriorating
The same people who told us that messi and Suarez were giving him tap ins at Barcelona, he went to psg and they're now saying it's cavani helping him. When Costa was in Chelsea he couldn't help hidden

They always have ready made excuses for hidden
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Heywhizzy(m): 12:02pm On Nov 29, 2018
thorrvik55:
Just so u know, hazard won 2 league titles with costa...
Wot do u mean by neymar is shining at psg?
Since neymar left barcelona, mention one tin he has achieved...
Just so u know, if neymar was injured for the whole season psg will still win the league with at least 30 points.
Each season in PSG he's outscoring Hazard CAREER goals in Champions League from open play since you don't want to acknowledge the league where he played only a meagre 20 games, had 19 goals and was named player of the season, who does that?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 12:03pm On Nov 29, 2018
Heywhizzy:
Shine pass Shine oga.. Same season where Neymar joined the duopoly of top Champions League goalscorers per season


There would always be excuses, Cavani is now one kind of spectacular striker... Cavani lost a clear tap-in yday but it is suitable to say Neymar scored from a cavani rebound, if na Morata, all hell would have been let loose, you would see Nike air max, hazardfan1 and Hensbrain shouting see Morata (like we're blind), he almost spoiled hazard moves, etcetera etcetera

I'm afraid if he goes to Madrid, they would tell us that he went when they were deteriorating
At your first paragraph, it is possible with Messi. The season they won treble Messi assisted 85 percent of Neymar goals, go watch Neymar goals that season on YouTube and see for yourself, clear chances at that.
At second paragraph, Morata do not even create a rebound he shot wide at close range.

Stop been sentimental, stop letting dayo to form opinion for you due to sentiment and hatred. Use your brain and analyze situation critically.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 12:04pm On Nov 29, 2018
liveLongNprospa:
Dayo use your eyes and sense to analyze that tackle. So suddenly you can't make your own calls again.

How is that a penalty in anyway ehn.
Okay if you were a defender, what would you do? undecided
A sensible defender can either poke the ball away or just block neymar

It's only unrefined ones that will sweep his feet away like that
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 12:04pm On Nov 29, 2018
afrodoc2:
Are you sure he is top 2? Where do you place Pep Guardiola, Koeman, Rijkaard, Matthaus, Redondo?

If some of those older guys had played in this modern era of tackle-less football they might have been even better.
None of those guys played in 100 pass per game system, and only ran 8km per game in their time, plus the half-turn was not a routine method of receiving the ball for possession football, so you cannot make the same comparison across generations. Their skillset and physical characteristics may not even translate into the modern way of DM possession footie. Some of these like Mathaus and Koeman are long-range passers, not necessarily high volume passers.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 12:05pm On Nov 29, 2018
raumdeuter:
You cannot get the ball by sweeping the attackers feet away. Outside the box that will be blown as a foul
I will even say if the player involved was not neymar the penalty would be given

I watched the ball, showed you the gif over half of neutral people watching who are not liverpool fans think it was a penalty. These type of calls get blown everyday
who are the "over half"? How did you arrive at that number bros? abi you and the blogs you quoted represent the over half of us that watched UCL yesterday?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 12:07pm On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
At your first paragraph, it is possible with Messi. The season they won treble Messi assisted 85 percent of Neymar goals, go watch Neymar goals that season on YouTube and see for yourself, clear chances at that.
At your second paragraph, Morata do not even create a rebound he shot wide at close range.

Stop been sentimental, stop letting dayo to form opinion for you due to sentiment and hatred. Use your brain and analyze situation critically.
Without messi. In 1.5 seasons neymar has 10 CL goals from open play

In 6 seasons hazard has 4 career CL goals from open play

Try and do the maths
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 12:08pm On Nov 29, 2018
Afolabi6046:
who are the "over half"? How did you arrive at that number bros? abi you and the blogs you quoted represent the over half of us that watched UCL yesterday?
I said it at least 3 people here agree. People at euro sports agree. I read many comments online from different websites many people agree it was a penalty.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 12:10pm On Nov 29, 2018
liveLongNprospa:
The same man that preaches using of your eyes is the same one suddenly running to blogs to tell me something that I can see.

Dayo fear God oo grin
And you are the only one who can see it? Or is that not the gif we are all seeing? How is that a legit tackle. Anywhere on the field that's a foul. Any other player that's a penalty
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Heywhizzy(m): 12:11pm On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
At your first paragraph, it is possible with Messi. The season they won treble Messi assisted 85 percent of Neymar goals, go watch Neymar goals that season on YouTube and see for yourself, clear chances at that.
At your second paragraph, Morata do not even create a rebound he shot wide at close range.

Stop been sentimental, stop letting dayo to form opinion for you due to sentiment and hatred. Use your brain and analyze situation critically.
What's my business with Dayo, that's my opinion.. It's possible with Messi,but Villa, Pedro, Henry, Sanchez, even Suarez didn't do it


So dem dey create rebound, emotions and tears won't let you understand before you reply post.. The point is Cavani loses goals almost as often as Morata if not more, be it on target and off target.. Cavani and Mbappe had a poor game yday but you came here saying all thanks to his attackers that played well.. Try dey watch ball and not highlights
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 12:11pm On Nov 29, 2018
raumdeuter:
Neymar finished 3rd balon dor. That means if messi and ronaldo no dey here would have won, what's the highest hidden shakushaku ever finished
Hazard finished second best player at the just concluded WC, same Messi and cr7 participated.

We all know Second is greater than third in the scheme of competition.

Talk another thing G.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by thorrvik55(m): 12:11pm On Nov 29, 2018
raumdeuter:
Neymar finished 3rd balon dor. That means if messi and ronaldo no dey here would have won, what's the highest hidden shakushaku ever finished
IF MESSI AND RONALDO NO DEY...

Using dat same logic,
IF hazard played along side messi, iniesta and suarez he would have won the balon d or at least finished 2nd behind messi and ahead of ronaldo....

IF samuel eto was not african he probably would have won the balon d' or

IF wenger had the financial power the great Ferguson had, he would hav won more league titles than ferguson

IF nigeria had the calibre of players germany has them for win 2018 world cup

IF i was born in england i would hav won at least one PFA young player of the year award...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Heywhizzy(m): 12:19pm On Nov 29, 2018
thorrvik55:
IF MESSI AND RONALDO NO DEY...

Using dat same logic,
IF hazard played along side messi, iniesta and suarez he would have won the balon d or at least finished 2nd behind messi and ahead of ronaldo....

IF samuel eto was not african he probably would have won the balon d' or

IF wenger had the financial power the great Ferguson had, he would hav won more league titles than ferguson

IF nigeria had the calibre of players germany has them for win 2018 world cup

IF i was born in england i would hav won at least one PFA young player of the year award...
Hazard fans are the master of Ifs.. At least he has come third twice on the ballon d'or podium surpassed by the GOATs, Hazard never smell top six ones.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 12:22pm On Nov 29, 2018
Heywhizzy:
What's my business with Dayo, that's my opinion.. It's possible with Messi,but Villa, Pedro, Henry, Sanchez, even Suarez didn't do it


So dem dey create rebound, emotions and tears won't let you understand before you reply post.. The point is Cavani loses goals almost as often as Morata if not more, be it on target and off target.. Cavani and Mbappe had a poor game yday but you came here saying all thanks to his attackers that played well.. Try dey watch ball and not highlights
Pedro scored 100 goals as sub almost all the time, that tells you the superiority of the team. Not just Neymar, all the attackers you mentioned benefitted from Barca dorminance all this while led by Messi.

You are the one been emotional here. I was talking about what led to Neymar’s goal, are you trying to say mbappe and Cavani were not brilliant as well with their move. Morata will not even get a rebound in such situation, it is either he goes to the ground or shoot wide.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by eph12(m): 12:26pm On Nov 29, 2018
afrodoc2:
Give us Kante and we give you Lukaku.

Win win situation
We add Young. Young can easily bench Alonso at left back, ask elamps
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 12:29pm On Nov 29, 2018
raumdeuter:
Without messi. In 1.5 seasons neymar has 10 CL goals from open play

In 6 seasons hazard has 4 career CL goals from open play

Try and do the maths
Without Messi but with mbappe( best young footballer) and Cavani( one of the best strikers in the world).
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