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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by thorrvik55(m): 12:30pm On Nov 29, 2018
Heywhizzy:
Hazard fans are the master of Ifs.. At least he has come third twice on the ballon d'or podium surpassed by the GOATs, Hazard never smell top six ones.
Im guessing the reason why hazard was the 2nd best player at the 2018 world cup was because messi, ronaldo and neymar considered the tournament irrelevant and decided not to waste their precious time in russia cos they had tins to do back home...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 12:31pm On Nov 29, 2018
thorrvik55:
IF MESSI AND RONALDO NO DEY...

Using dat same logic,
IF hazard played along side messi, iniesta and suarez he would have won the balon d or at least finished 2nd behind messi and ahead of ronaldo....

IF samuel eto was not african he probably would have won the balon d' or

IF wenger had the financial power the great Ferguson had, he would hav won more league titles than ferguson

IF nigeria had the calibre of players germany has them for win 2018 world cup

IF i was born in england i would hav won at least one PFA young player of the year award...
Without messi neymar has 10 goals in 1.5 seasons
How many does hazard have his entire career
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 12:31pm On Nov 29, 2018
homesteady:
Open your eyes and look at that gif well, Neymar had already cut back before VVD touched the ball, it wasn't VVD's tackle that stopped the ball. His right leg went after the ball and missed it, leaving in between his legs open for the ball to pass through. His left leg was already in motion, and the only action that leg could perform was to clear him.

If VVD had not cleared him, Neymar would have gotten that ball and would have created highlight of the week by sending VVD to Mars.
He will tell you he was the only one who has ever played football before and can see that's not a penalty

Several of these type of plays are given as penalties regularly
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc2: 12:33pm On Nov 29, 2018
Ibime:
None of those guys played in 100 pass per game system, and only ran 8km per game in their time, plus the half-turn was not a routine method of receiving the ball for possession football, so you cannot make the same comparison across generations. Their skillset and physical characteristics may not even translate into the modern way of DM possession footie. Some of these like Mathaus and Koeman are long-range passers, not necessarily high volume passers.
You make a good point about different eras but i am certain Pep would have been a god in this era. He was only unlucky to play in an era Diego Simeone, Stuart Pearce, Sensini and other goons were allowed to slide tackle all the tiki-taka out of your brain.

Also technique is more than just passing the ball. My main problem with Alonso and even Scholes was overdependence on their passing.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Heywhizzy(m): 12:33pm On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
Pedro scored 100 goals as sub almost all the time, that tells you the superiority of the team. Not just Neymar, all the attackers you mentioned benefitted from Barca dorminance all this while led by Messi.

You are the one been emotional here. I was talking about what led to Neymar’s goal, are you trying to say mbappe and Cavani were not brilliant as well with their move. Morata will not even get a rebound in such situation, it is either he goes to the ground or shoot wide.
How many of the attackers top Champions League goalscoring or ballon d'or top three


Cavani was not brilliant with any move, so missing a tap in is brilliance.. that build up to Neymar's goal, was the only positive thing Mbappe did all night, missing many chances


Stop with all these your Ifs, what makes Hazard better than Neymar sef
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by thorrvik55(m): 12:35pm On Nov 29, 2018
raumdeuter:
Without messi neymar has 10 goals in 1.5 seasons
How many does hazard have his entire career
The way i see it:
Without messi, neymar is struggling to make it to the quarter finals of the champions league...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Heywhizzy(m): 12:35pm On Nov 29, 2018
thorrvik55:
Im guessing the reason why hazard was the 2nd best player at the 2018 world cup was because messi, ronaldo and neymar considered the tournament irrelevant and decided not to waste their precious time in russia cos they had tins to do back home...
No
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 12:37pm On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
Without Messi but with mbappe( best young footballer) and Cavani( one of the best strikers in the world).
Hazard didn't play with Costa?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Heywhizzy(m): 12:38pm On Nov 29, 2018
thorrvik55:
The way i see it:
Without messi, neymar is struggling to make it to the quarter finals of the champions league...
But still surpassing hazard career goals, what is stopping Hazard from qualifying at all
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 12:39pm On Nov 29, 2018
Eto did. Henry, Villa and Suarez came close so no big deal there.

Are you aware Hazard came second best player at the WC. Abi u wan still talk say WC Na local competition.
Heywhizzy:
How many of the attackers top Champions League goalscoring or ballon d'or top three


Cavani was not brilliant with any move, so missing a tap in is brilliance.. that build up to Neymar's goal, was the only positive thing Mbappe did all night, missing many chances


Stop with all these your Ifs, what makes Hazard better than Neymar sef
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 12:42pm On Nov 29, 2018
thorrvik55:
The way i see it:
Without messi, neymar is struggling to make it to the quarter finals of the champions league...
Without messi, he has scored 10 goals in less than 2 seasons.

His job is to score and assist and he has delivered 10 without messi. How about hazard
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 12:46pm On Nov 29, 2018
raumdeuter:
Without messi, he has scored 10 goals in less than 2 seasons.

His job is to score and assist and he has delivered 10 without messi. How about hazard
So u seriously think PSG bought Neymar to be winning French league 1
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by thorrvik55(m): 12:52pm On Nov 29, 2018
raumdeuter:
Without messi, he has scored 10 goals in less than 2 seasons.

His job is to score and assist and he has delivered 10 without messi. How about hazard
So his job is not to help his team win the champions league ehn...
Why did psg spend so much on him if he cannot even help them to even a champions league semi-final...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 12:54pm On Nov 29, 2018
thorrvik55:
So his job is not to help his team win the champions league ehn...
Why did psg spend so much on him if he cannot even help them to even a champions league semi-final...
His job is to score and assist. Not his job to defend. He has scored 10 goals in 1.5 seasons

How has Hazard delivered in the CL for Chelsea?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 12:55pm On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
So u seriously think PSG bought Neymar to be winning French league 1
It's French league that he scored 10 cl goals in?

What did chelsea buy hazard to win? Europa?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 12:56pm On Nov 29, 2018
Heywhizzy:
I said Hazard is world-class, anyone can argue it from his point of view, there are pundits that are stats reliant but it's only an idiot that would doubt Neymar being world class.. Hazard is good, Neymar and some others are better


Mourinho is my top two coach, mainly for his personality and numbers to back it up, so I don't know why you're bringing him up
Can you show me too any pundit that has ever call Hazard average player or haven’t acknowledge Hazard as of the best player in the world just like Neymar?

Hazard is world class, same with Neymar. EOD on that.

I used Mou and pep as an analogy to buttress my point of not been sentimental over issues despite my love for one and hatred for the other.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 1:02pm On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
Can you show me too any pundit that has ever call Hazard average player or haven’t acknowledge Hazard as of the best player in the world just like Neymar?

Hazard is world class, same with Neymar. EOD on that.

I used Mou and pep as an analogy to buttress my point of not been sentimental over issues despite my love for one and hatred for the other.
We wont need pundits if you can just show us hazard goals in the CL
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 1:04pm On Nov 29, 2018
raumdeuter:
Kovacic, Willian and I think Jorginho were all around him that he could have released a pass to early but he spent 10 good seconds and acheved what?

danced around and after 10 seconds made a 5yard pass to Kovacic who has been free forever
You keep exposing your hatred for hazard with this stupid analysis of yours.I have frequently been washing some classic matches of late and some of the things hazard does that you reffered to as shakushaku where done by players whom you dear to criticise because you love them.


Have could have given you reason why such delay was importantand can be vital in football games but you will still come up with another ridiculous assertion to justify ya hatred.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by thorrvik55(m): 1:04pm On Nov 29, 2018
raumdeuter:
His job is to score and assist. Not his job to defend. He has scored 10 goals in 1.5 seasons

How has Hazard delivered in the CL for Chelsea?
Bro just use ur eyes to read wot u wrote up there...
'Its not his job to defend'
Ok. Why did psg not outscore real madrid last season, since his job is to score and assist he could have scored like 3 and assist like 4 to help his team qualify for the quarter finals...

Just so u know football is a team sport.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Unlimited22: 1:04pm On Nov 29, 2018
Why do pundits keep calling him one of the world's best players?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 1:06pm On Nov 29, 2018
popizaino:
You keep exposing your hatred for hazard with this stupid analysis of yours.I have frequently been washing some classic matches of late and some of the things hazard does that you reffered to as shakushaku where done by players whom you dear to criticise because you love them.

Have could have given you reason why such delay was importantand can be vital in football games but you will still come up with another ridiculous assertion to justify ya hatred.
If you have Kovacic beside you 10 seconds ago and you spent the whole time dancing to pass to someone thats beside you
Who are the sensible players that will do that especially in a game you need goals and are not trying to waste time
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 1:07pm On Nov 29, 2018
thorrvik55:
Bro just use ur eyes to read wot u wrote up there...
'Its not his job to defend'
Ok. Why did psg not outscore real madrid last season, since his job is to score and assist he could have scored like 3 and assist like 4 to help his team qualify for the quarter finals...

Just so u know football is a team sport.
He missed the return leg with injury, every football analyst will know that

Neymar was bought to score and assist he has delivered 10 goals in 1.5 seasons for PSG. which is more than Hazard has done in his entire career
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 1:08pm On Nov 29, 2018
Unlimited22:
Why do pundits keep calling him one of the world's best players?
Same reason they call Stanley Okoro Nigerian Messi or Marko Marin German Messi
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 1:08pm On Nov 29, 2018
raumdeuter:
It's French league that he scored 10 cl goals in?

What did chelsea buy hazard to win? Europa?
Chelsea bought Hazard to replace aging attackers in the team as a young prodigy. So far he has done beyond expectation hence the praise and acknowledgment he is getting.

So are you saying psg signed Neymar for a record fee, who was already 25 to come win French league 1 they were already conquering?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 1:09pm On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
Chelsea bought Hazard to replace aging attackers in the team as a young prodigy. So far he has done beyond expectation hence the praise and acknowledgment he is getting.

So are you saying psg break the bank to sign Neymar who was already 25 to come win French league 1 they were already conquering?
Before Chelsea signed Hazard they won the CL, as at today since they bought Hazard they have not made the CL final they are currently in Europa cup

That showed how much Hazard has failed Chelsea
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 1:13pm On Nov 29, 2018
Greatihex:
okay.

It is better that he is sold, so that we will really know our level as a club
Yea true but it's going to be level below and not as enticing as this present level with hazard.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 1:15pm On Nov 29, 2018
raumdeuter:
Before Chelsea signed Hazard they won the CL, as at today since they bought Hazard they have not made the CL final they are currently in Europa cup

That showed how much Hazard has failed Chelsea
Since pep left Barca he has not made ucl final can we now say he is useless huh.

It’s not Hazard’s fault, a lot of factors are behind that. Chelsea sole reason of buying Hazard is to come replace aging attackers in the team unlike Neymar, so you see different agenda.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by thorrvik55(m): 1:15pm On Nov 29, 2018
raumdeuter:
He missed the return leg with injury, every football analyst will know that

Neymar was bought to score and assist he has delivered 10 goals in 1.5 seasons for PSG. which is more than Hazard has done in his entire career
He was injured for d second leg but he played the 1st leg... Since neymar's job is to score and assist why did psg loose? Why did they not outscore madrid?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Heywhizzy(m): 1:19pm On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
Eto did. Henry, Villa and Suarez came close so no big deal there.

Are you aware Hazard came second best player at the WC. Abi u wan still talk say WC Na local competition.
You and nonsense are 5&6.. So the ballon d'or bronze Eto'o got in 2005 is what you are ascribing Messi to.. what is the meaning of get close, he did something twice, you are telling me they came close, how close was Villa and Henry
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 1:19pm On Nov 29, 2018
thorrvik55:
He was injured for d second leg but he played the 1st leg... Since neymar's job is to score and assist why did psg loose? Why did they not outscore madrid?
WHy didnt PSG outscore Madrid? tell me which team outscores the opponent every game
Neymar has 10 goals in 1.5 seasons for PSG, what has Hazard done for Chelsea in the CL?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 1:20pm On Nov 29, 2018
hensben:
Since pep left Barca he has not made ucl final can we now say he is useless huh.

It’s not Hazard’s fault, a lot of factors are behind that.
Nothing is ever Hazards fault. 4 CL goals his entire career is not his fault. Leading Chelsea to miss CL twice is not his fault

What then is he responsible for?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 1:27pm On Nov 29, 2018
raumdeuter:
If you have Kovacic beside you 10 seconds ago and you spent the whole time dancing to pass to someone thats beside you
Who are the sensible players that will do that especially in a game you need goals and are not trying to waste time
Gbenu da ke and learn

He wasn't dancing,I don't know the move that preceded your gift but as someone who pay detailed attention to hazard he must have attempted to take on the opponent and look for tiny space for through passes to his more advance teammates before Tottenham players regrouped .
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