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simonjassy:
pls stop this shameful and baseless comparison.ronaldo de lima did not play ucl not because it was non-existent but because he supposedly could not qualify for it.what u are saying,can be likened to one saying an 18 year old in this age did not attend the university because universities do not exist,which is utter crap

Ronaldo did not qualify for CL many times because only one team was able to play from the league in his time. That rule applied now, Hazard will only have played the CL 3 times

Its compared to when Only University of Ibadan was in Nigeria vs now that we have over 100 university.

So anyone who cannot make Uni when only 1 Uni was in Nigeria can that be compared to when 100 Uni is in Nigeria

nihilistjnr:
You are the one that brought the comparison not me o.

Martial has no assists in the league.

He has 6 league goals, one of which was even a penalty.

Lukaku has 4 goals.

Is it because of one goal difference that Martial is now 'faring better?

Last season, same league, same team, same manager Lukaku outscored(by at least 10 goals) and out assisted Martial, and even bullied Martial out of his shirt number. Lukaku then went world cup and helped his team to a 3rd place finish. Martial didn't even near the airport going to Russia.

Now because in November, Martial has only one more goal from open play than a clearly unfit Lukaku, you're shouting 'how is Martial and Lukaku faring?

Egbon rest abeg.

You commented on my comparison of Martial with Kane Perez and Lukaku

Perez no one needs to talk about it, Lukaku is playing in the same team with Martial, In the league same team Lukaku has 20 league goals, Martial has 16 league goals

One is a wing forward one is a striker

raumdeuter:
Guardiola spent 3yrs at bayern, hazzard is on his 7yr at chelsea and they are currently in Iropa

Guardiola from winner to semi in 3yrs, hazzard from winner to Iropa after 7yrs

Don't sugarcoat anything here he failed going by your postulation.hazard first 3yrs ay chelsea too had in ucl semi.

raumdeuter:
Ronaldo did not qualify for CL many times because only one team was able to play from the league in his time. That rule applied now, Hazard will only have played the CL 3 times

Its compared to when Only University of Ibadan was in Nigeria vs now that we have over 100 university.

So anyone who cannot make Uni when only 1 Uni was in Nigeria can that be compared to when 100 Uni is in Nigeria

i get your point,but still people still make it into ui as it is still the best,the competition to get slots is still stiff and if not even at a higher level as at when ui was the only uni.Furthermore,fewer People were interested in tertiary education back then.

popizaino:
Don't sugarcoat anything here he failed going by your postulation.hazard first 3yrs ay chelsea too had in ucl semi.

The worst Guardiola did at Bayern was CL semi

The worst Hazard did at Chelsea was failing to make Europe totally

simonjassy:
i get your point,but still people still make it into ui as it is still the best,the competition to get slots is still stiff and if not even at a higher level as at when ui was the only uni.Furthermore,fewer People were interested in tertiary education back then.

Those times in the entire Western region maybe only 100 people will be admitted to UI compare that to now when the number of students admitted on one street can be 100.

Ronaldo was at his peak between 96 and 99 between that time he played CL 1 time

raumdeuter:
You commented on my comparison of Martial with Kane Perez and Lukaku

Perez no one needs to talk about it, Lukaku is playing in the same team with Martial, In the league same team Lukaku has 20 league goals, Martial has 16 league goals

One is a wing forward one is a striker

Explain this nonsense

nihilistjnr:
Explain this nonsense

The Perez part or the part that Lukaku had 16 league goals last season 4 this season totalling 20 while Martial had 9 league goals last season 6 this season totally 15

Difference between an attacker and a wing forward in the same team is 5 goals in 1.5 seasons

raumdeuter:
Then your knowledge is nonsense without context.

You can also say you are richer than king Solomon because you own a car now and he didn't own in his time even though there were no cars in his time

Or smarter than einstein because you can operate a smart phone but he couldn't because the were no such thing in his time

Neymar played more CL seasons than ronaldo so it's expected that he will score more

Tell us why hidden shakushaku has 4 cl goals from open play after 6 seasons

Your comparison doesn't make sense .well it's expected since you're talking about hazard where you don't always make sense.


Xavi had more ucl appearance than ozil,lampard and fabregas isn't it expected that he should have more assists than each and every one of them ?

raumdeuter:
Those times in the entire Western region maybe only 100 people will be admitted to UI compare that to now when the number of students admitted on one street can be 100.

Ronaldo was at his peak between 96 and 99 between that time he played CL 1 time

which is not because of the school's inability but because of the societal disinterest in tertiary education.96-99 is a period of four years,basically u are saying de lima and his team were only able to play the ucl once,pretty poor i am forced to say.

raumdeuter:
The worst Guardiola did at Bayern was CL semi

The worst Hazard did at Chelsea was failing to make Europe totally

They both made ucl semi-finals .

popizaino:
Your comparison doesn't make sense .well it's expected since you're talking about hazard where you don't always make sense.
Xavi had more ucl appearance than ozil,lampard and fabregas isn't it expected that he should have more assists than each and every one of them ?

After you cannot defend Hazard again with his miserable CL stats you ran to Ozil Xavi, Fabregas soon you will go to Rabiu Ibrahim

popizaino:
They both made ucl semi-finals .

3 semi in 3 seasons
1 semi in 5 seasons

Do the Maths

simonjassy:
which is not because of the school's inability but because of the societal disinterest in tertiary education.96-99 is a period of four years,basically u are saying de lima and his team were only able to play the ucl once,pretty poor i am forced to say.

Delima transferred to Barcelona that was not playing the CL

Later transferred to Inter Milan who was not playing the CL again took them to CL

Hidden Hazard transferred to Chelsea that was CL winners and playing the CL first season he crashed them out of the group stage

This season Hidden Hazard took Chelsea to Europa again

popizaino:
Before bayern Munich signed pep guardiola they won the CL, during his spell at Bayern Munich they did not make the ucl finals talk more of winning the trophy.



Can we now agree that pep guardiola too failed at Bayern Munich?

Apari raumdeuter would use his amala turning skill here or avoid your question like a plague.

Man city reached ucl semifinal a season before Pep came, after spending 500m+ the Spanish apari hasn't reached the stage in two years. Raumdeuter, is your apari colleague a failure for city for now?

raumdeuter:
The Perez part or the part that Lukaku had 16 league goals last season 4 this season totalling 20 while Martial had 9 league goals last season 6 this season totally 15

Difference between an attacker and a wing forward in the same team is 5 goals in 1.5 seasons

What a wack analysis.

1. What stopped wing towards from competing for topscorer? Are you not the same person who makes noise about Hazard not scoring?


2. The comparison was made exactly 3 years ago. Why are you bringing stats now for only 1.5 seasons? Why not look at their totals over that period? Lukaku played for a smaller, less sucessful team with worse team mates, so such a comparison should actually favour Martial.

3. Lukaku is still ahead of Martial in terms of goals scored AND assists provided even in your time period.


4. Perez plays for a relegation battling team, and not even as a number 9. The difference between Martial and Perez is also only 5 eague goals since 2015. If the 5 goals difference between Lukaku and Martial is too small, then fill in the blanks..........


5. I also mentioned Kane, and you know what you said. Please don't omit him from this conversation now

raumdeuter:
The 2 elite club and country competition both play in, world cup and CL

World cup

Neymar 6 goals 3 assists = 9 contribution to goal
Hazard 3 goals 4 assists = 7 contributions to goal

Neymar wins

Champions League

Neymar 31 goals 22 assists = 53 contribution to goals
Hazard 8 goals(half penalties) 13 assists = 21 contribution to goals

Neymar wins

The bolded is Interesting. Anyone who follows your posts here will be forgiven to think all he has ever done in the UCL are those 4 goals from open play.

nihilistjnr:
What a wack analysis.

1. What stopped wing towards from competing for topscorer? Are you not the same person who makes noise about Hazard not scoring?


2. The comparison was made exactly 3 years ago. Why are you bringing stats now for only 1.5 seasons? Why not look at their totals over that period? Lukaku played for a smaller, less sucessful team with worse team mates, so such a comparison should actually favour Martial.

3. Lukaku is still ahead of Martial in terms of goals scored AND assists provided even in your time period.


4. Perez plays for a relegation battling team, and not even as a number 9. The difference between Martial and Perez is also only 5 eague goals since 2015. If the 5 goals difference between Lukaku and Martial is too small, then fill in the blanks..........


5. I also mentioned Kane, and you know what you said. Please don't omit him from this conversation now

1. A main striker is expected to score more than a wing forward since he is the focal point of the attack
2. The 2 of them have been playing under the same coach and same club for only 1.5 years under the grim reaper of attacking talent(according to you)
3. Luakku a main striker only has 5 goals more than a wing forward in the same team
4.Perez played for Arsenal and West Ham in the EPL and has a total 1 goal for both of them right?
5. When Kane plays under this grim reaper you said is responsible for Rashfords inability to catch up with Mbappe we can evaluate Kane then

rationalmind:
The bolded is Interesting. Anyone who follows your posts here will be forgiven to think all he has ever done in the UCL are those 4 goals from open play.

Compare that to the guy Chelsea fans love to compare him to Neymar and tell the difference

Man like Dayo, when he finally meets Hazard

Raumdeuter get time for this world sha How many years have you been fruitlessly dragging Hazard on this Nairaland?

Afolabi6046:
Rumdeuter get time for this world sha How many years have you been fruitlessly dragging Hazard on this Nairaland?

His record on the CL field na him dey drag am

raumdeuter:
His record on the CL field na him dey drag am

does anybody care apart from you? The guy noh dey play UCL, dem still dey pay him mad money, why should his useless record be my own headache?

Chelseafan1:
Expect that apari to still be mentioning Hazard here anytime his team loses wherever he goes.

He's obsessed.

if so, then only deliverance can help.

Afolabi6046:
Raumdeuter get time for this world sha How many years have you been fruitlessly dragging Hazard on this Nairaland?

as in ehh... FRUITLESSLY.

Airmark Rio Ferdinand is in Lagos to scout talents... Rush down boss

raumdeuter:
Delima transferred to Barcelona that was not playing the CL

Later transferred to Inter Milan who was not playing the CL again took them to CL

Hidden Hazard transferred to Chelsea that was CL winners and playing the CL first season he crashed them out of the group stage

This season Hidden Hazard took Chelsea to Europa again

more like they took him and gave him a chance to play the ucl and chelsea winning the ucl back then was against the odds. and besides chelsea had gotten hazard to supplement an aging squad.

raumdeuter:
After you cannot defend Hazard again with his miserable CL stats you ran to Ozil Xavi, Fabregas soon you will go to Rabiu Ibrahim

Don't wriggle out.

Defend this using ya logic .

popizaino:
They both made ucl semi-finals .

since u both are talking within the confines of the ucl during his time at bayern, how can u say the semifinals is his worst when infact he never got past that stage as a bayern coach.

popizaino:
Don't wriggle out.
Defend this using ya logic .

Defend what? that Xavi has 3 CL titles playing as a key member of the team while Ozil Fabregas never won

simonjassy:
since u both are talking within the confines of the ucl during his time at bayern, how can u say the semifinals is his worst when infact he never got past that stage as a bayern coach.

What was Guardiolas worst CL position at Bayern, what is Hazards worst at Chelsea?

raumdeuter:
1. A main striker is expected to score more than a wing forward since he is the focal point of the attack
2. The 2 of them have been playing under the same coach and same club for only 1.5 years under the grim reaper of attacking talent(according to you)
3. Luakku a main striker only has 5 goals more than a wing forward in the same team
4.Perez played for Arsenal and West Ham in the EPL and has a total 1 goal for both of them right?
5. When Kane plays under this grim reaper you said is responsible for Rashfords inability to catch up with Mbappe we can evaluate Kane then

Which Perez is that? Was Lucas Perez even in England in 2015?

Grim Reaper of talent came in 2016. Even if we say Mourinho affected Martial from 2016....what were his numbers in 2015/16 season? compare to Lukaku?

You argument that a main striker is expected to score more than a forward is rubbish.EPL Top scorer last year was not a number 9.

Top 10 scorers in EPL today, only 4 are strikers.

Was Martial playing under Mourinho when you said he was better than Kane? Why is Mourinho now an excuse for him?