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Sommyroy10:
"I don't see what's so wrong with this, but if I were to take it seriously, I would say if Messi missed Ronaldo or needed him, he would follow him to serie A, or move to any other club to prove something, not stay in his club and keep performing like a God.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with staying at your club, this whole "accept the challenge" argument came to life because of Messi, before that it was regarded as loyalty and players like Totti were massively praised because of it.

This here sounds pretty tongue in cheek anyway."
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Taguchi:
dem dey feel insecure about their football legacy

so Pele go talk about scoring headers

and c boy go talk about stupid challenge as if he didn't play in the richest and most dominant clubs in the countries he went to. the boy even mention national team join

and Maradona will say leo goes to the toilet 20 times b4 a match like wtf

they should all be ashamed of themselves because person wey dem dey talk never get time to reply any of them even once.

femiti:
always trying hard to sound intelligent.

Sogunlaye ni

MJBOLT:

Lord of foolishness is here

Evangkatsoulis:
Not true. The average freekick conversion rate is around 5 percent.
On the other hand the average conversion rate from a cross(freekick, corner kick, open play) is about 1 in 40 or around 2-3%.

randomperson:
Why are u using d conversation rate of all free kicks? We are comparing long range free kicks to crossing the ball from a free kick position...

If d conversion rate of all free kicks is just 5%, imagine d conversion rate of only long range free kicks

LordAdamX:
The point is that of all the 4 GOAT contenders, he's the only one to have played in one team all his life. If he was just an average exciting player, no one would give a sh*t. To whom much is given, much is expected.

Messi could play blindfolded in Barca and still win the Pichichi and at least one trophy.

That's why it's funny when you guys complain that the football world no longer recognizes Messi's genius because of his consistency. Dude is compared to Pele, Maradona, and CR7. What he's doing is what's expected of a legend of his status that has played in the same team since he was 13. Dude should do more based on his status.

Messi is not competing with Griezmann, Hazard, Salah, Neymar, Modric who'd be forgotten in 10 years time. Dude is competing against legends with eternal GOAT status.

I'm very sure if Maradona, Pele, CR7, R9, Cryuff, or Zidane played in the same Argentina team Messi played in, either of them would have at least one International trophy. If they played in the same Barcelona team for the same time period, they'd have as many trophies.

There's nothing wrong in staying at one club. But Messi is not just any player. If that's what he wants to do though, as CR7 said we all respect it. But don't make it seem like the request is ridiculous.

-Lord

LordAdamX:
I'd never understand these Messi fans.

Same folks asking Ronaldo to go to Roma are the same folks asking others why Messi has to leave Barcelona.

The best players go to the best clubs.

-Lord

randomperson:
With all due respect, this comment is absolute trash

Messi only playing in barca doesn't reduce his status... He is playing in the best league in the world against the best teams in Real Madrid and Atletico and as at last reckoning has been d highest goal scorer in both derbies

LA liga has produced more ballon d or winners than any other league, and most ballon d or nominees during Messi's career have been from LA liga... And yet has won the LA liga best player so many times now, the award night is a mere formality...

Pele played in a Brazil team that won d world cup without his help, Maradona was in barca and never won champions league, Ronaldo has moved to a dead rubber league and is still dragging boss status with d likes of Mandzukic.

But you're coming here to say you're absolutely sure as if you're omniscient

LordAdamX:
Na question wen journalist ask them.

Football sha. Never a dull moment.

-Lord

randomperson:
The best players don't always go to the best teams... Sometimes they improve the profile of their teams. Case in point? Messi

When Messi became Barca's main player, they had two champions league titles... Now they have five

Messi has won by 9 la liga titles with barca in 13 years... The preceding 9 la liga titles before that were amassed in 45 years...

So it's players like Ronaldo that change teams to win more titles... Some people are better than that

LordAdamX:
Typical Barca fan. Call what you disagree with trash, then proceed to type a missive that's way worse.

Pele in his heydays was not allowed to play for a foreign team by the Brazilian government.

Maradona was at his peak at Napoli and took them to their first ever Italian title. That's why Southern Italians will forever regard him as the GOAT. In spite of being a midfielder who didn't score much, it was Hamsik who recently broke his goalscoring record in 2017.

CR7 has the most goals and assists at Juventus. And he left for Juventus to win the UCL, that's the yardstick by which his stay will be measured. Not winning a domestic double, not even getting to the UCL final, but winning it. That's the challenge. A damn impossible one at 33 fresh off a B2B2B UCL win.

Compared to these three GOATs, you have Messi staying in Barca when at least one team in each of the top 5 leagues can afford him, through perhaps the best period of Barcelona's history for over 18 years, and you expect everyone to whistle by like he simply can't do more.

Messi + current Napoli team + Ancelotti will give Juventus a run for their money in the league.

Messi + any current top 4 English team + Any coach not named Mourinho will mount a formidable challenge for the UCL.

In fact, Messi + any top European team + any decent coach can theoretically win a treble. He has the ability. Everyone knows that. Dude just wants it easy maybe due to his reserved lifestyle; not everyone is a fan of that. You guys can keep making excuses for him or engaging in humorless whataboutism, but the "what if" question will never go away.

-Lord

LordAdamX:
Typical Barca fan. Call what you disagree with trash, then proceed to type a missive that's way worse.

Pele in his heydays was not allowed to play for a foreign team by the Brazilian government.

Maradona was at his peak at Napoli and took them to their first ever Italian title. That's why Southern Italians will forever regard him as the GOAT. In spite of being a midfielder who didn't score much, it was Hamsik who recently broke his goalscoring record in 2017.

CR7 has the most goals and assists at Juventus. And he left for Juventus to win the UCL, that's the yardstick by which his stay will be measured. Not winning a domestic double, not even getting to the UCL final, but winning it. That's the challenge. A damn impossible one at 33 fresh off a B2B2B UCL win.

Compared to these three GOATs, you have Messi staying in Barca when at least one team in each of the top 5 leagues can afford him, through perhaps the best period of Barcelona's history for over 18 years, and you expect everyone to whistle by like he simply can't do more.

Messi + current Napoli team + Ancelotti will give Juventus a run for their money in the league.

Messi + any current top 4 English team + Any coach not named Mourinho will mount a formidable challenge for the UCL.

In fact, Messi + any top European team + any decent coach can theoretically win a treble. He has the ability. Everyone knows that. Dude just wants it easy maybe due to his reserved lifestyle; not everyone is a fan of that. You guys can keep making excuses for him or engaging in humorless whataboutism, but the "what if" question will never go away.

-Lord

9itewolf:
so this journalist no dey ask messi
question... y ihm never call name?

LordAdamX:
That 1 na ICANN question for Messi to answer.

As I've repeatedly said, mk una no dey reason diz guys comments.

Pele say Messi get only 1 foot, all Messi YouTube channels start dey do compilation of goals wen Messi don score with right leg. Like are you guys that insecure.

Pele in 2012, Messi better than Ronaldo: Messi fans; YAAASSS!
Pele in 2014 n 2017, Ronaldo better than Messi: CR7 fans; MTSCHEEEWWW!
Pele in 2018, Messi a one-trick player: Messi fans; Pele is a FRAUD!

Una go react tire sha, because everybody don c Messi fans finish.

-Lord

LordAdamX:
Oga Barcelona was always a big team before Messi. It'd remain a big team after Messi retires.

Maradona, Cryuff, R9, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo all played for Barcelona before Messi. The first four of those names are in the top 10 best footballers in history and were the best of their respective generations.

I don't think it's fair to Barcelona's history to say Messi increased the profile of the club. Sure he'd lead the Barca legend chart for a very long time but this is no Maradona "Napoli" profile increase.

Messi would make history in any club, or at least that's what his talent suggests. Staying in Barcelona throughout his career is not wrong and I'm sure no one in Catalonia is complaining, but that's simply not what legends who ascribe to the GOAT status do. It's not just about Ronaldo, it's about virtually every other legend who ascribed to GOAT status, from the other usual 3 suspects to other names from Zidane to even Van Basten (who played for only two big teams btw).

You guys should stop reacting as though this is not a tradition in football.

-Lord

randomperson:
This is plain idiocy... You're making conjectures on Messi's reasons for staying in barca and all you can think of is reserved lifestyle?? But it never crossed your mind that loyalty to a club that paid for his treatment could be his reason for staying at that club

If Messi wanted the easy path, he would have gone to man city, and made three times what he's making in Barcelona, win trophies galore while benefiting from d unequalled coverage and sponsorships the EPL enjoys

Messi left his home country at 12 years of age and had d psychological strength to play so well that he graduated into Barca's first team at a very young age

But one self- acclaimed lord on nairaland wants us to believe that Messi always makes d easy choice

ClintonNzedimma:
lol... lord himself...i wanted to argue with you but when I saw 'a coach not named mourinho', I laughed and embarrassed myself in public...but leave Messi alone, upon everything, he doesn't reply critics in the media but in the field

randomperson:
Please point to where I said Barcelona was not a big team before Messi.

Maradona, Cruyff and co played for barca before Messi but how many ucls and LA liga titles did they win for the club... You're basically helping me to prove my point... Barcelona has had so many great players but none had as much success as Messi. Proving once and for all that it's not about the club, it's about d player....

And there's no tradition that says good players have to move from one club to another.... 90 percent of players whether good, bad and ugly and transfer from club to another...

it's not a fucking tradition

in fact, if all legends need to transfer to build their legacy, Messi has done it without needing to transfer... That's what is called being a boss

Melvyn11:
I don't care if messi dies in barca or whatever. He is already a one club legend and a fraud with his country. Ronaldo left Madrid to win d champions league with juventus and that's is the challenges he is talking about

LordAdamX:
I'd never understand these Messi fans.

Same folks asking Ronaldo to go to Roma are the same folks asking others why Messi has to leave Barcelona.

The best players go to the best clubs.

-Lord of stupidity

MJBOLT:

Lord of foolishness is here

Olamyyde:
Let him prove himself in roma now...shebi he is the goat. Maradona proved himself in napoli.

tesppidd:
I do not understand how the hell joining Juventus and dominating the serie A becomes a new challenge.
A team which is going for its 7th consecutive title.

But they say it's the champions league that he's after, yet for every goal or assist he makes against crotone or empoli, they call him the greatest of all time proving himself in Italy!
For every flick he does against cagliari they call him the greatest of all time.



He would still be at Real Madrid today if Perez had bent over and taken it in the asss from him, accepting his demands.
But Perez called his bluff and sold him, and Ronaldo converted it into "his new challenge "

What I hate is hypocrisy or dishonesty.

There is no such thing like a challenge in football or sports in general.
Sportsmen are majorly mercenaries.

They work for 2 reasons;

1. Money.
2. Success/ Trophies.

Messi is living like a king in Barcelona.
He lives the weather, his family love the Spanish culture, which has got similarities with the South American culture.
He is pampered and adored at the club, and his salary? Barcelona are willing to give Messi a blank cheque if he desires.

Only an iidiot would dare suggest that Messi has to leave FC barcelona on nothing else but a "prove himself" mission or a "new challenge"

No club in the world would be an upgrade to Messi.


*Ronaldo left Manchester United for Real Madrid cus he wanted an upgrade NOT NOT NOT for no fuckiing challenge.

*Ronaldo again left Real Madrid for Juventus because Real Madrid and particularly Flo Perez dumped his asss NOT NOT NOT for no fuckiing challenge.

Ronaldo has never moved to a club because of any "new challenges" crap.

Madrid is bigger than Man U and gave him much more money!
Juve was the only option after Perez dumped him.

Lol, it's just like barca treating Messi like shiit and agreeing to sell him, he then negotiates a deal with Man City, and then his people begin to tell us that he left Barca because he wanted a new challenge.
Who's gonna play the yuletude m0r0n tonight? Surely not me!


Whish kain wahala be this?
Challenge na by force??

Only people with something to prove speak about challenges.

Messi has got absolutely nothing to prove.

snrman:
Must we always compare
I have my own G. O. A. T u have urs.
I reserve my comment till end of the season.

LordAdamX:
I'd never understand these Messi fans.

Same folks asking Ronaldo to go to Roma are the same folks asking others why Messi has to leave Barcelona.

The best players go to the best clubs.

-Lord