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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:03am On Dec 13, 2018
genieluv:


grin It seems to be all they have and all they may ever have grin
we have alot
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:05am On Dec 13, 2018
Japan,Korea, and USA are both developed. It's fair for them to compete against each other.Nigeria can't be put in the same line as those countries!
genieluv:


Get my analogy here. I am doing a comparison of wealth and life expectancy.
***** Why should some countries live up to 7 years higher than Americans if life expectancy was all about wealth and poverty?
Answer my question to prove your assertion, don't tell me if US life expectancy is modest or not, cos 7 years is no joke.
••••• 78 may be modest to your eyes but to those of Japanese and Koreans, it is not.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:07am On Dec 13, 2018
nemesis8u:


shocked

My friend what is colonial advantage ?




Colonial advantage is India being colonized for a far longer period of time, hence getting exposed to western cultures and systems for a longer period of time.

It is also of the entire Indian subcontinent being colonized in uniformity by one European power, hence ensuring uniformity across the terrain, UNLIKE Africa that was split like a pie among different colonial powers, creating dozens of unfriendly international boundaries, diverse policies and conflicting systems and values bequeathed by the colonizers.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:10am On Dec 13, 2018
Ibrahimanis:

Mauritius is ranked first for online shopping, Nigeria is second, South Africa third.

https://www.exchange.co.tz/here-are-africas-biggest-online-shopping-countries/

This is 2018 ranking by the way


You dey mind that lying machine of a guy. grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:12am On Dec 13, 2018
Jonraid:
Japan,Korea, and USA are both developed. It's fair for them to compete against each other.Nigeria can't be put in the same line as those countries!

OMG, maybe I would have to use a swahili translator.
**** Where does Nigeria come into my comparison?

I am analyzing the huge discrepancy between advanced nations, where did Nigeria come into my analogy?

~~~~ Answer my question on the discrepancy between these advanced nations since you claim that life expectancy is synonymous to wealth.

Your failure to do this makes complete rubbish of your assertions.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:14am On Dec 13, 2018
Mombasa City

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:14am On Dec 13, 2018
rvp20183:
The pictures looks good. Is that really apapa lagos - I thought I would see Tin Can port.

There is no way ABUJA can beat Mombasa.

I don't know enough of Port Harcourt but my initial take is - Kisumu is better. We still have Eldoret & Nakuru - just in case there is another Nigeria city that is half -decent. Not KANO type slums.



Was Mombasa ever listed or ranked among cities since its creation? grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:17am On Dec 13, 2018
genieluv:


Who ever thought the Roman empire will collapse?
Tell the Romans this same thing millenia ago that their descendants will end up speaking and taking pride in vulgar latin, they will say you are mad grin What is happening today?

~~~~ American English which was a corruption of British English is now taking over the world and heavily displacing the original British English.

Life has proven itself heavily unpredictable throughout history.

**** At the height of the British empire centuries ago, tell them that their children would one day take pride in the identity of American lifestyle, they would have said God forbid, cos then even American born Europeans were regarded as untrained, ill-mannered and far away from home cultured savage individuals.
genieluv:


OMG, maybe I would have to use a swahili translator.
**** Where does Nigeria come into my comparison?

I am analyzing the huge discrepancy between advanced nations, where did Nigeria come into my analogy?

~~~~ Answer my question on the discrepancy between these advanced nations since you claim that life expectancy is synonymous to wealth.

Your failure to do this makes complete rubbish of your assertions.

Wow girl, you are giving so much better education and enlightenment to the likes of NairobiWalker and Jonraid.

This I have been doing for a long time till I gave up. I just cannot be the one doing the work of supplementing Kenya's failed educational system.

Kenyans have a very poor sense of analogy.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 10:17am On Dec 13, 2018
forgiveness:



Was Mombasa ever listed or ranked among cities since its creation? grin
Haba Bros, you too wicked grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 10:20am On Dec 13, 2018
Jonraid:
Mombasa City

2nd picture

Wow..... Just wow. Absolutely beautiful.

Abuja is still better

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:20am On Dec 13, 2018
genieluv:


A slum is a slum, even when it has no name?
***** Why do slums in every part of the world have names, but those of Nigeria do not have accurate names that describe the entirety of those so called slums?

~~~ Why is Makoko so so so different from all the other areas you guys classify as slums in Nigeria? Sometimes our brains should do more work than our mouths.

So let's get this straight.
There's a slum in Abuja,
According to my Google maps, the slum is called Mpape,
But you don't want me to call it Mpape,
You don't give me the alternative name either,
Now because you don't have the alternative name, you argue the slum doesn't exist. grin

Naijalander, are these the Nigerian women you say are smarter than Kenyan women? grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:23am On Dec 13, 2018
genieluv:


Many Kenyans communicate with each other in English.

~~~~ I also noticed Kenyans hardly make a complete sentence in swahili without a huge chunk of it being in English.
Only Tanzanians I observe who can speak swahili for hours and days without a single word of English.

So, how many times have you been in Kenya again? Seriously, you need to stop making ignorant statements about things you don't understand. Once again Naijalander, come help your sister.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:23am On Dec 13, 2018
rvp20183:
I don't think Port Harcourt - can compete with Kisumu




Port harcourt is a financial city center with many industries and a robust GDP.

If we ask you guys to tell us how much Kisumu or Mombasa are worth now, you guys will go dumb.

You think comparison is all about 1 or 2 highrises depicting aesthetic appeal right?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:25am On Dec 13, 2018
Nowenuse:



Wow girl, you are giving so much better education and enlightenment to the likes of NairobiWalker and Jonraid.

This I have been doing for a long time till I gave up. I just cannot be the one doing the work of supplementing Kenya's failed educational system.

Kenyans have a very poor sense of analogy.

Thank you. I try my best.
If I don't educate them, who will grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:26am On Dec 13, 2018
genieluv:


Who ever thought the Roman empire will collapse?
Tell the Romans this same thing millenia ago that their descendants will end up speaking and taking pride in vulgar latin, they will say you are mad grin What is happening today?

~~~~ American English which was a corruption of British English is now taking over the world and heavily displacing the original British English.

Life has proven itself heavily unpredictable throughout history.

**** At the height of the British empire centuries ago, tell them that their children would one day take pride in the identity of American lifestyle, they would have said God forbid, cos then even American born Europeans were regarded as untrained, ill-mannered and far away from home cultured savage individuals.

America could collapse,
Britain could collapse (practically it collapsed because it was the superpower half a century ago)

One thing I'm 100% sure of though, Nigeria will not take over after USA and Britain's influence wanes to obscurity. Not in the next 1000 years. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:27am On Dec 13, 2018
genieluv:


This is nice. Clearly, swahili is not a threat to Kenyan native languages unlike Tanzania.
**** What ethnic group are the natives of Nairobi/environs?

I heard Kisumu is a Luo city. So, what language is most likely to be spoken on the streets of Kisumu? Luo, Swahili or English?

Nairobi is cosmopolitan. However Maasais live to its South, Kambas to the East and Kikuyus to the North West.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:27am On Dec 13, 2018
NairobiWalker:


So, how many times have you been in Kenya again? Seriously, you need to stop making ignorant statements about things you don't understand. Once again Naijalander, come help your sister.

Do you have to visit the US, India or China for you to have an idea of how these people speak? Smh.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:27am On Dec 13, 2018
I am not sure who was ranking cities in 9th century.Mombasa is a very ancient city. It clearly has been a city for more than 1,000 years. Was kenya capital for the first few years.

This is Mombasa 15th Century fort built by Portugues to guard the town against Arabs.

forgiveness:

Was Mombasa ever listed or ranked among cities since its creation? grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 10:28am On Dec 13, 2018
rvp20183:
30 floors in 2018 - is exciting you - Nairobi we are looking at 80 floors! Pinnacle Towers which is back on construction is 70 floors and 45 floors.

Once complete, Pinnacle Towers in Nairobi, Kenya, with a height of almost 300m, will be the tallest building in Africa.

The foundation itself has taken I think 3 years to dig.



At the same height as the tallest building in Europe (the Shard) it's a sign of the economic might that Kenya has in this part of the world
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:31am On Dec 13, 2018
genieluv:


Same way your lingua franca is heavily influenced by Arabic.
***** Swahili would never have existed without Arab contact.

Thank you! It's funny how Kenyans think they can degrade Naija Pidgin being a white man's language, forgetting that half of swahili is Arabic!

Do you know I even understand many swahili words? Because these words are also in Hausa language (courtesy of Arabic).
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:31am On Dec 13, 2018
genieluv:


Same way your lingua franca is heavily influenced by Arabic.
***** Swahili would never have existed without Arab contact.

Swahili would have still existed as Kingozi without Arab influence. See.....

Swahili is an African language that borrowed words from Arabic.

Pidgin is English language that borrows from African languages.

There's a difference.

For the record, African bantus like Zulus for instance who've spoken Swahili would understand a sizeable percentage of Swahili. Meanwhile an Arab who doesn't speak Swahili would find it as foreign as you.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:31am On Dec 13, 2018
Interesting. Nairobi pre-eminence as largest city in Africa is on. I am not talking slumpolis like lagos or kinshahasa..but competitor against Joburg & Cairo.
Kur17:


At the same height as the tallest building in Europe (the Shard) it's a sign of the economic might that Kenya has in this part of the world
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:32am On Dec 13, 2018
genieluv:


Bla bla bla grin These places are part of Kibera constituency, but they are not part of Kibera slum community, or has every single community become a constituency in Kenya?

**** Even google maps clearly differentiate these places for what they are.
You can only tell me that Silanga is part of Kibera, hence it's written in small letters, unlike the others that are so unique from Kibera.

Whatever girl. This is getting tiring. What matters is you claimed there are no slums in Abuja and I proved you wrong. All this hullabaloo about names is just you trying to find a way out.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:32am On Dec 13, 2018
There are many factors as to why. Lack of quality healthcare, poverty, nutrition,political stability is what makes Nigeria perform dismally in Life expectancy ranking.

In those developed countries, America is still a toddler when it comes to universal healthcare coverage. That one is known. Trump made it worse by eradicating Obama's healthcare plan, 'Obama Care'. Japanese and South Koreans access more healthy foods than the Americans who are masters of junk. Americans are also more obese and likely to suffer from many lifestyle diseases than the Japanese and their South Korean counterparts. There are many factors as to why but when it comes to the African scenario, poverty,poor nutrition and poor political stability negatively affect much the life expectancy of a country.
genieluv:


OMG, maybe I would have to use a swahili translator.
**** Where does Nigeria come into my comparison?

I am analyzing the huge discrepancy between advanced nations, where did Nigeria come into my analogy?

~~~~ Answer my question on the discrepancy between these advanced nations since you claim that life expectancy is synonymous to wealth.

Your failure to do this makes complete rubbish of your assertions.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:33am On Dec 13, 2018
As long as we don't use Nigeria Stats Office generated GDP - I am pretty sure Nairobi, Mombasa, Kisumu, Nakuru and Eldoret will stand as cities worth their name.
Nowenuse:


Port harcourt is a financial city center with many industries and a robust GDP.

If we ask you guys to tell us how much Kisumu or Mombasa are worth now, you guys will go dumb.

You think comparison is all about 1 or 2 highrises depicting aesthetic appeal right?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 10:34am On Dec 13, 2018
Kur17:


At the same height as the tallest building in Europe (the Shard) it's a sign of the economic might that Kenya has in this part of the world
Careful careful, I once read this report about the correlation between building of skyscrapers and economic collapse, there was a surge in building of skyscrapers before the 2008 economic recession, same before the Asian economic crisis, now Kenya is busy building skyscrapers....... Just saying cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:36am On Dec 13, 2018
genieluv:


This is the pure undiluted truth.
**** Tanzanians are just like the true native owners of swahili. They speak and sing with the language in a very melodious and sweet way.

You couldn't be more correct genie.

I love hearing Tanzanians when they speak or sing swahili, they just have this appeal and serious 'nativization' towards the language.

Kenyans on the other hand just speak rubbish. Most Kenyan songs are in English, while Tanzanians sing entire musics without adding a word of English.

Where is Kazikazi. You guys have to send a national warning to Kenya to tell them to stop speaking swahili, they bastardize the language and makes it look unnapealing.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:37am On Dec 13, 2018
Yet another demolition - Grand Manoro Hotel demolished today in Nairobi. STRICT ZONNING. This must be the 4000 plus building to be demolished this year.

This building violated the floor height - endangering the UN Complex Gigiri, US & several embassies.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ibrahimanis: 10:38am On Dec 13, 2018
rvp20183:
As long as we don't use Nigeria Stats Office generated GDP - I am pretty sure Nairobi, Mombasa, Kisumu, Nakuru and Eldoret will stand as cities worth their name.
Stat office of every country runs their figures on GDP through World Bank and IMF before it is release.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:39am On Dec 13, 2018
And none has ever had theirs rejected. Nigeria GDP is totally cooked. We have dealt with this. They claim to have 81B dollars worth of agricluture. That is just impossible. That would put their agri GDP higher than Brazil. South Africa Agri GDP is 7B dollars. Just imagine that.

Before the re-basing - Nigeria GDP was 150B - I think if this honest mistake - then they probably choose the "wrong" year to rebase - 2014 - Nigeria economy was booming with oil at 100 dollars a barrel - but this is more about DODGY DATA - For example the agricluture data - how do they collate the data about what they produced when Fed Min of Agricluture was quoting Indimulli?

Nigeria GDP is less than Algeria - less than 200B dollars - with about 1/3 of that from Oil.

Ibrahimanis:

Stat office of every country runs their figures on GDP through World Bank and IMF before it is release.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:40am On Dec 13, 2018
NairobiWalker:


America could collapse,
Britain could collapse (practically it collapsed because it was the superpower half a century ago)

One thing I'm 100% sure of though, Nigeria will not take over after USA and Britain's influence wanes to obscurity. Not in the next 1000 years. grin

Hahahaha,

(In Travis Scott's voice) Stop tryna be God..... That's not who you are .... grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:41am On Dec 13, 2018
NairobiWalker:

Which bubble did you burst? grin stop feeling too important, I said Woodley is part of Kibera constituency and I still maintain it. So what bubble have you burst? grin

Woodkey is part of Kibera
Olympic is part of Kibera
Ngumo is part of Kibera
Ayany is part of Kibera

All those places range from fairly nice lower middle class to expensive Upper Middle class. Do you now know Nairobi more than me? For the record I used to live in Woodley. My cousin stays in Ngumo.

Sometimes it's easier to give them their victories however false and child-like!

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