genieluv:


The chances of you finding a Hausa person in Kenya are very slim, so I really don't believe this.

-------There is no face of Naija. The truth is that the major difference in Nigerian faces is mostly divided into Southern & Northern Nigeria.. .... Northern Nigerians tend to have a simpler, rounder and more 'feminine' face compared to southern Nigerians.
****** However, that doesn't mean there are no simpler, rounder and feminine faces in the south and no broader faces in the north.

°°°°°For instances, most Kenyans accept the faces they see on Nollywood to be the perfect representation of Nigerian faces. Forgetting that most Northerners look like this.

Hausa are cousins of Somalis and Oromos.Those pic are recent admixture from islamization.They are not Habesha.They are on average darker.South Africans are lighter cozof Khoisan.Nilotes like those in Nigeria North East are darker than Bantus.All that is nonsense.Unless you have low self-esteem and nothing to be really proud of except your body biology.

genieluv:


The chances of you finding a Hausa person in Kenya are very slim, so I really don't believe this.

-------There is no face of Naija. The truth is that the major difference in Nigerian faces is mostly divided into Southern & Northern Nigeria.. .... Northern Nigerians tend to have a simpler, rounder and more 'feminine' face compared to southern Nigerians.
****** However, that doesn't mean there are no simpler, rounder and feminine faces in the south and no broader faces in the north.

°°°°°For instances, most Kenyans accept the faces they see on Nollywood to be the perfect representation of Nigerian faces. Forgetting that most Northerners look like this.

first the shy guy i was referring to (the photo please) is Buhari..is he not a hausa ?..

Second whats all ths about north vs south wherever ya cornered..

genieluv:


Yes you are right, but in most cases with the evolution of new languages, it involves a group of native speakers breaking away from the mother area and evolving new features either by interraction with others or isolation.
******* In the case of Swahili, it was somewhat the same. Just that another entirely different mix of genes, cultures and lifestyles came into the gene pool.
Arabs have already evolved a more advanced trade system than East African Bantus and this was the factor that mobilized the spread of the language all around the coasts and the hinterlands.
~~~~~ So, there is absolutely no way we can absolve Arab influence and contribution from the identity and spread of swahili, it's just impossible. It was a joint Bantu-Arab affair.

¤¤¤¤ It's just like us trying to say that South African blacks are all Bantus and completely absolve the contribution of the Khoisans who even gave south african Bantu languages the unique click sounds they posses today.



I thought Swahili originated all along the coasts of both Kenya & Tanzania at once?

It's just interesting how you love to insist the Arab influence on Swahili but ignore it on Hausa.

Swahili originated from the current day Lamu County and spread all the way down to Mozambique including some Indian Ocean islands such as Comoros.

NairobiWalker:


I understand but can somebody from Delta state, born and raised, claim to be Hausa? Even in Kenya, many coasterians such as Mijikenda (whose language is basically a different form of Swahili and sounds exactly like Swahili) claim to be Swahilis. But this guy was born and raised in interior Tanzania. There's nothing Swahili about him other than being able to speak the language. He's just being stupid.

Mmm, actually, if that Deltan speaks Hausa as a native, has hausa/islamic names and most importantly becomes muslim and acts like a northerner. He may be considered as one. Just that his fellow Deltans may reject him And he may no longer be able to represent Delta state or claim Delta state.

****** In Tanzania, I think Swahili culture has seriously affected the hinterlands, to the extent that it doesn't matter anymore.
So, I think what you should do is find out, how the majority of Kazikazi's tribal people behave. Do the majority of them now consider themselves native swahili speakers and have rapidly abandoned their cultures for swahili? If yes, then Kazikazi may have a good point. Otherwise, we can say he is just confused

mtisTheQubit:

yah they are better..askwhy all ths naijas pitching on one bedroom house somewhere in Nairobi..what the freaky are they doing here..or the question is what the hell are they running from ..

God forbids me living in Kenya.

We've told you Nigerians are even in Chad,why brag about that

rvp20183:
And better quality of life and future prospect.

Nigerians future looks blick everything is going south opposite of Kenya where poverty rate is going down, slums are reducing, attracts more FDI, the government has more of its citizens interest at heart, we no longer talking of an $88B GDP but over $95B in yr2019 and higher per capita than Nigeria...

rvp20183:
Hausa are cousins of Somalis and Oromos.Those pic are recent admixture from islamization.They are not Habesha.They are on average darker.South Africans are lighter cozof Khoisan.Nilotes like those in Nigeria North East are darker than Bantus.All that is nonsense.Unless you have low self-esteem and nothing to be really proud of except your body biology.

Hausas are cousins of Oromos & Somalis? Hmmmm,
***** Well, perhaps, Hausas are Chadic, Oromos and Somalis are Cushitic. Well, they are both related but far apart.
~~~ The mixture of Hausas came from the fulanis who are half berber (north african) by origins.

samsobo24:
God forbids me living in Kenya.

We've told you Nigerians are even in Chad,why brag about that

what why Chad now ? ...

genieluv:


Ok NairobiWalker, let's put childishness asides and be factual.
****** Here in Nigeria, there are non hausas who now identify as Hausas because they have been subsumed under Hausa culture and language. They've abandoned their own ancestral languages and now speak hausa as a mother tongue.
I think this is the exact case with Kazikazi. Many Tanzanians seem to have been subsumed by swahili language and culture, to the extent that they now see themselves as part of it. Going by this, don't you think they should be able to claim swahili nativity? Thanks.

>>>> Afterall, the Arabs of North Africa and the Levantine were never originally arabs, but were arabized. Today, they claim to be arabs and the world considers them such.

Genie, are you really sure?

Almost every Hausanized person still knows his/her original tribe and may not claim to be Bahaushe (original hausa man) in the midst of Hausa speakers.

samsobo24:
I refer you to forgiveness iwantslavesgone

They have tons of pics for you,meanwhile manage this one for me.

The Lagos light rail can be seen
The CBD you posted as slum,even has a modern bus terminus, something that looks like rocket science for Nairislum

They better post a pic showing the exact spot esp the background shanties and the slummy Street

samsobo24:
you just showed your frustration, your annoyance over the reality which i exposed.

Now who is the fool


If you allow your emotions to take over an argument ,then you a big definition of a frustrated fool

Get off my mentions if you can't argue like a reasonable fellow.

Just few of you are worth arguing with.



Let me tell you again


we see Kenya so irrelevant to our country Nigeria.

You're the one who keeps on arguing like a dull illiterate,by the way how old are you?And have you ever been to Kenya to confirm for yourself if those rubbish you're saying are true?
Stop peddling with some stupid excuses,if you've been beaten hands down you are indeed!
You're distress of spreading propaganda,shame on you man.

genieluv:


The chances of you finding a Hausa person in Kenya are very slim, so I really don't believe this.

-------There is no face of Naija. The truth is that the major difference in Nigerian faces is mostly divided into Southern & Northern Nigeria.. .... Northern Nigerians tend to have a simpler, rounder and more 'feminine' face compared to southern Nigerians.
****** However, that doesn't mean there are no simpler, rounder and feminine faces in the south and no broader faces in the north.

°°°°°For instances, most Kenyans accept the faces they see on Nollywood to be the perfect representation of Nigerian faces. Forgetting that most Northerners look like this.

The photos ya posted..just normal stuff in kenya ..

genieluv:


If yes, then Kazikazi may have a good point. Otherwise, we can say he is just confused

kazimoto ya hear ths

NairobiWalker:


It's just interesting how you love to insist the Arab influence on Swahili but ignore it on Hausa.

Swahili originated from the current day Lamu County and spread all the way down to Mozambique including some Indian Ocean islands such as Comoros.

You just don't get the differences.

***** Hausas arabic influences came from the Hausas themselves. For instance when you see the ancient city of Kano, you can see that the style of house buildings were somehow modelled after Arabian city settings, just that it was still far below Arab standards.

~~~ This is because the Hausas themselves travelled far and wide across the middle east/North Africa and copied these things for themselves. Native hausas learnt from the Berbers/Arabs when they travelled out to Arabian/Berber lands.
This is very very very different from East Africans who had their Arabic influences from native Arabs coming to their door steps to intermix with them.

>>>> Bantu east Africans never knew how to navigate the Indian ocean across to the Arab world, neither did they embark on transaharan routes. Hausas on the other hand embarked on transaharan routes for centuries. The Arabs never came to hausa land. Hausas went there.

TayserMahiri:
So the Nigerian football boys (under 16) were thrashed by Kenya's boys in the final and guess what happened folks? The Nigerian boys started behaving how yall Nigerians behave here. Crying like babies, faking victim and then asking for hugs. So typical.

I noticed the Naijjaness and wasn't surprised.

Please folks dont comment on ths...am rooting for the emirate lads

genieluv:


The chances of you finding a Hausa person in Kenya are very slim, so I really don't believe this.

-------There is no face of Naija. The truth is that the major difference in Nigerian faces is mostly divided into Southern & Northern Nigeria.. .... Northern Nigerians tend to have a simpler, rounder and more 'feminine' face compared to southern Nigerians.
****** However, that doesn't mean there are no simpler, rounder and feminine faces in the south and no broader faces in the north.

°°°°°For instances, most Kenyans accept the faces they see on Nollywood to be the perfect representation of Nigerian faces. Forgetting that most Northerners look like this.

Genie, so where do we in Central Nigeria fall. North or South? Gaskiya kina brge ni da wanan magana.

Kur17:


Since this thread began you've never shown where you positively lead above...
Just nominal(fake) GDP&population. Lagos GDP is ten times bigger than Kenyan.No wonder lekki is more developed than Kenya slum

Internet penetrations

Nigerias penetration is increasing massively and will dwarf Kenya's in no time.The reality is Nigerias lesser penetration has positive things to show for,example is nairaland


Education.
How dare you make such comparism, yet Nigeria produces the best professor's ,Doctors,Nobel Laurette's,Engineers in the US,UK,EU,Africa, even in backward Kenyan

Check our university researches and ratings,UI is now behind in Nigeria,thanks to the no 1 private university in Africa. hoping to give university of cape town a run for its money.

Covenant uni hopes to be 1st in Africa, their research output last month dwarfed the total of last year.Its not just only UI again.

You have only Uni of Nairobi that can compete favourably with UI
A little enlightenment allows you to read about the university


Health care

when Nigeria has an health insurance scheme,our healthcare isnt better now but it is miles ahead of Kenyans.You don't know that our doctors are the most sought after in.the UK,US and.EU


HDI. Don't you see why countries like Seychelles are doing better off,that's population

everything positive Kenya beats you hands down, and those are the indicators of better economy

I agree Kenya beats Nigeria in having luxurious slums

Kenya is tiny compared to Nigeria

Kazikazi:
Pwa pwa pwa pwa...
All those guys in the coast as you said had their tribes.Its true.
FYI,in Tanzania we have similar cases in interior too.That why you need to ask yourself who is a Swahili?

I know who a Swahili is. I don't need you to explain to me.

Kazikazi:
Let's use DNA tests and see if your Mombasa governor will have Swahili DNA! Then you will tell me what made a Mombasa guy to be a swahili!

Of course he has Swahili DNA. You don't.

Yobeezy:


You're the one who keeps on arguing like a dull illiterate,by the way how old are you?And have you ever been to Kenya to confirm for yourself if those rubbish you're saying are true?
Stop peddling with some stupid excuses,if you've been beaten hands down you are indeed!
You're distress of spreading propaganda,shame on you man.

I can't mention you again.

Good luck to you Old man of 80 years

Kazikazi:
Let's use DNA tests and see if your Mombasa governor will have Swahili DNA! Then you will tell me what made a Mombasa guy to be a swahili!

How will you get the governor's DNA? Why are you daft?

Nowenuse:


Genie, are you really sure?

Almost every Hausanized person still knows his/her original tribe and may not claim to be Bahaushe (original hausa man) in the midst of Hausa speakers.

They may not claim to be Hausas in the midst of Hausa speakers, but before non Hausa speakers they surely do. **** They defend Hausa with their lives and look or talk no different from the average Hausa man. Their not being hausa only ends on their lips, every other thing about them reeks hausa.

>>>> Besides in Bauchi, many are now full blooded hausas and see and adress themselves as such.

mtisTheQubit:

The photos ya posted..just normal stuff in kenya ..

~~~~Well, can you guys show us such Kenyan photos? Can we be enmeshed in such beauty and simplicity that radiates from Kenya?~~~~

**** I know the Kenyan Swahilis and Somalis may posses such, but I doubt the Kenyan Bantus and Nilotes who posses 90% of Kenyan population can.

mtisTheQubit:

first the shy guy i was referring to (the photo please) is Buhari..is he not a hausa ?..

Second whats all ths about north vs south wherever ya cornered..

Really? How do you mean?

genieluv:


You just don't get the differences.

***** Hausas arabic influences came from the Hausas themselves. For instance when you see the ancient city of Kano, you can see that the style of house buildings were somehow modelled after Arabian city settings, just that it was still far below Arab standards.

~~~ This is because the Hausas themselves travelled far and wide across the middle east/North Africa and copied these things for themselves. Native hausas learnt from the Berbers/Arabs when they travelled out to Arabian/Berber lands.
This is very very very different from East Africans who had their Arabic influences from native Arabs coming to their door steps to intermix with them.

>>>> Bantu east Africans never knew how to navigate the Indian ocean across to the Arab world, neither did they embark on transaharan routes. Hausas on the other hand embarked on transaharan routes for centuries. The Arabs never came to hausa land. Hausas went there.

Okay, Bantus are an inferior race who never made anything on their own. Happy?

mtisTheQubit:
Nakumatt is back..i really not sure about it though

Has its liquidation period ceased?

rvp20183:
Do you even know how a tribe forms.There are people who identity themselves as swahilis, they live together, are native swahilis speakers and have common unique maybe in 1000 yrs you'll be Tanzanian by ethnicity the same you got English or Germans or Italians.

Thank you.

NairobiWalker:


Swahili originated from the current day Lamu County and spread all the way down to Mozambique including some Indian Ocean islands such as Comoros.

Can you please show me any proofs? Why then was the Arab/Swahili trade and culture more widespread in interior Tanzania compared to interior Kenya?

***** Tanzanians naturally reek more Swahili/Arab features, from their looks, to their cultures, accent and everything, compared to Kenyans.
>>>> Tanzanians also accepted Islam even in the hinterlands more than Kenyans.

Infact, Kenyan interior cultures hardly show any sign of Arab/muslim/Swahili contact.

mtisTheQubit:

gal i have seen a quite peculiar pattern ya have..you start a discussing by humbly asking questions an stuff but at the end ya turn around a claim you know everything..look i wouldn't argue on how Fulani people had an effect on Nigeria but same you dont have knowledge on swahili ..its an east african thing not west africa an its wise to listen to natives either Nairobiwalker or even kazimoto

You noticed too?

genieluv:


~~~~Well, can you guys show us such Kenyan photos? Can we be enmeshed in such beauty and simplicity that radiates from Kenya?~~~~

**** I know the Kenyan Swahilis and Somalis may posses such, but I doubt the Kenyan Bantus and Nilotes who posses 90% of Kenyan population can.

Show us pictures of your self genie. Let's see the looks behind the brains.

samsobo24:
I refer you to forgiveness iwantslavesgone

They have tons of pics for you,meanwhile manage this one for me.

The Lagos light rail can be seen
The CBD you posted as slum,even has a modern bus terminus, something that looks like rocket science for Nairislum

The same forgiveness who wasn't able to give us the photo of the Ministry of Communication tower has tons of pics? Bish puliizz