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jesusjnr:
Are you lost? So what wind blew you here? If you treat them well then that's what you are by force, whether you like it or not.

That's your business, just want you to be aware of how an atheist sees it being that the so called god factor is meaningless.

LordReed:
That's your business, just want you to be aware of how an atheist sees it being that the so called god factor is meaningless.

See Lordreed you must have noticed that I'm different from the usual church folks, I can't be deceived.

You know God truly exists, so keep saying the otherwise in the open to deceive as many as you can!

jesusjnr:
The difference is God

How exactly is God the difference? Is there some kind of righteousness that we don't know about? ---one that is more than abstaining from evil?


If the righteousness of God makes the difference, how comes you get thrown to hell which is a place for people like atheists? You get the same meat.

Let us grant than God exists, how exactly does he give/help you (with) his kind of righteousness, and what is the benefit if you lack the kind of yours?

As a christian then, I at least know that God does no more than whispering to your ears. The rest is up to you. Only those who are not learned claim that a lie is a lie because God say it is.

jesusjnr:
See Lordreed you must have noticed that I'm different from the usual church folks, I can't be deceived.

You know God truly exists, so keep saying the otherwise in the open to deceive as many as you can!

LoL! You are just so funny. What is there to deceive people about a fairytale? Yahweh was a Canaanite god of war that got syncretized with El the supreme god and Asherah its wife. The Israelites are descendants of Canaanites, they were never enslaved in Egypt. So your entire religion is no better than the ones that came before it. Its all a bunch of myths and fairytales, nothing to work one into a frenzy about. You'll have as much satisfaction believing in Frodo or Harry Potter.

Edit: corrected Ashteroth to Asherah. Note: Yahweh being the war god is conjecture from the way it was often depicted as a man of war.

LordReed:
LoL! You are just so funny. What is there to deceive people about a fairytale? Yahweh was a Canaanite god of war that got syncretized with El the supreme god and Ashteroth its wife. The Israelites are descendants of Canaanites, they were never enslaved in Egypt. So your entire religion is no better than the ones that came before it. Its all a bunch of myths and fairytales, nothing to work one into a frenzy about. You'll have as much satisfaction believing in Frodo or Harry Potter.

No wahala you hear, continue with what you're doing if you're so sure of yourself.

jesusjnr:
No wahala you hear, continue with what you're doing if you're so sure of yourself.

Of course.

It's me again.

Yes

Repeat

Something extra

The God Factor.

Righteousness + God = Something extra

Do you even know who a Christian is? How can a Christian be wicked?

Anas09:
Do you even know who a Christian is? How can a Christian be wicked?

What you don't know you don't know.

Extra something

jesusjnr:
What you don't know you don't know.

Write all the nonsense today so that when you become an atheist you can freely shout 'I was a good Christian for years, but now i know there's no God'. I'm watching you.

Anas09:
Write all the nonsense today so that when you become an atheist you can freely shout 'I was a good Christian for years, but now i know there's no God'. I'm watching you.

Sadly for you, you don't even know that i'm not even a christian now.

You shallow level is what's making the church so weak that atheism is trending, and Satan having a swell time.

Shay we dey here together, no worry you go see the difference between me and your likes speak for itself, that's if you have not already seen it already.

You have to grow down woman, for you are too adult to be able to comprehend these highly spiritual stuff.

jesusjnr:
Sadly for you, you don't even know that i'm not even a christian now.

You shallow level is what's making the church so weak that atheism is trending, and Satan having a swell time.

Shay we dey here together, no worry you go see the difference between me and your likes speak for itself, that's if you have not already seen it already.

You have to grow down woman, for you are too adult to be able to comprehend these highly spiritual stuff.

Here he is again talking stupid. The Church is weak or you are weak? Do you know what the Church is? Atheism is trending to you abi. See how ignorant you are yet you run around opening numerous threads spewing trash.

So, you are not a Christian? What are you then, a tare? Why am i not surprised? You hope to spin your incoherency around tomorrow hoping you'd cause many to fall off abi? Lolzzz.

You wish you had any grip of spiritual Christianity. The dull who says the Church is weak is the same talking abt spirituality. Gerarahia boy.

And, all i have seen is a Simon pretending to be a Christian, your activities will catch up with you soon.

Lol @ atheism trending.
Another hardmirrow loading. Nonsense.

Anas09:
Here he is again talking stupid. The Church is weak or you are weak? Do you know what the Church is? Atheism is trending to you abi. See how ignorant you are yet you run around opening numerous threads spewing trash.

So, you are not a Christian? What are you then, a tare? Why am i not surprised? You hope to spin your incoherency around tomorrow hoping you'd cause many to fall off abi? Lolzzz.

You wish you had any grip of spiritual Christianity. The dull who says the Church is weak is the same talking abt spirituality. Gerarahia boy.

And, all i have seen is a Simon pretending to be a Christian, your activities will catch up with you soon.

Lol @ atheism trending.
Another hardmirrow loading. Nonsense.

[s]Anas do you know what I like about you?

That you are a righteous christian and not wicked one.

So at least you have something.[/s]

p.s. I take back this statement for it's been confirmed to be the otherwise

jesusjnr:
Anas do you know what I like about you?

That you are a righteous christian and not wicked one.

So at least you have something.

Who is a wicked Christian? You are invariably saying Jesus is wicked because no one can follow Jesus and be wicked.

Anas09:
Who is a wicked Christian? You are invariably saying Jesus is wicked because no one can follow Jesus and be wicked.

The many people that Jesus called workers of iniquity.

Jesus was perfect.

Righteousness is of God only.
Wickedness is Satanic and can never be found in the Assembly of The Righteous. Psalm one.

Final installment of my righteousness/wickedness inequality series coming soon

Truth

Talking about that something extra

jesusjnr:
The many people that Jesus called workers of iniquity.

Jesus was perfect.

If they were indeed Christians, why then did the Lord cast them off?

Or, are you saying the Lord will cast off his sheep? He says 'By their fruits you shall know them'. If they are Christians will you say iniquity is the fruit of the Holy Spirit?

Anas09:
If they were indeed Christians, why then did the Lord cast them off?

Or, are you saying the Lord will cast off his sheep? He says 'By their fruits you shall know them'. If they are Christians will you say iniquity is the fruit of the Holy Spirit?

See let me tell you something that may shock you, if Jesus Christ was here on Earth, or if the church He left behind was yet here, atheists like hardmirror would yet be a part of the church, if you don't know.

He left because he wasn't willing to be satisfied with the crumbs that he's being fed witj as the likes of you are, for to people like him it's either everything or nothing.

Hence I could understand his reason for leaving Christianity and today's church, and therefore I would still rather have someone like him than the likes of you, because he's ready to go the end of the road with God, not to stop at the point of hard sayings like the likes of you would do and turn your back on Jesus, because you would prefer sayings that are easy and convenient.

Can't you see it in his moniker hardmirror, because he likes it hard, such as the hard sayings of Jesus, and to be able to keep such ones in the church, it's only with such hard sayings of Jesus, just as it was the disciples of Jesus who remained with Him because of such words.

Therefore I wouldn't be surprised if hardmirror would have been among the few disciples that remained with Jesus, when many of His disciples were said to have left Him because of His hard sayings, had he been here at the time, while it's people like you that would have been among those many false disciples that left Jesus because of the same hard sayings which He spake.

For it's possible that while the potential true disciples as him have left the church because of the lack of hard sayings in it (because it's only such words that could be used to retain such ones, as it was with the true disciples of Jesus that remained with him because of His hard sayings) the likes of you many false disciples have remained because of the words of the flesh.

So I believe that he'd be back when the hard sayings make a return to the church, as it ought to be, while the likes of you would be driven away with such sayings and except you decide to upgrade.

And believe me the hard sayings of Jesus is already coming back to the church where it rightfully belongs but i'm not sure you would want to be an opposition to it.

So don't worry about such atheists, but worry about yourself, for God may even see some of them as hardmirror as better vessels than yourself, despite him being an atheist because with him, God knows what He's going to get is what He deserves which is everything, as he wouldn't want to settle for less and spiritual mediocrity as the likes of you, but would want to give God his all.

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See let me tell you something that may shock you, if Jesus Christ was here on Earth, or if the church He left behind was yet here, atheists like hardmirror would yet be a part of the church, if you don't know.[/quote]You mean the likes of hardmirror where not in the days Christ? The last time i checked, they followed Him everywhere He went. They ate the food he multiplied, he healed their Children and relatives, yet they accused Him and sort for ways to kill Him like the likes of hardmirror does here.
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He left because he wasn't willing to be satisfied with the crumbs that he's being fed witj as the likes of you are, for to people like him it's either everything or nothing.
Hence I could understand his reason for leaving Christianity and today's church, and therefore I would still rather have someone like him than the likes of you, because he's ready to go the end of the road with God, not to stop at the point of hard sayings like the likes of you would do and turn your back on Jesus, because you would prefer sayings that are easy and convenient.[/quote]Master of Senselessness. This is why i call you disguised atheist.

When did you meet Jesus and what was your epiphany? How did you become a Disciple of Jesus?

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Can't you see it in his moniker hardmirror, because he likes it hard, suc as the hard sayings of Jesus, and to be able to keep such ones in the church, it's only with such hard sayings of Jesus, just as it was the disciples of Jesus who remained with Him because of such words.[/quote]Wow. this guy is indeed delusional. Are you off your meds? I see he is your role model.

I'll be here to call you out for the liar that you are very soon.
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Therefore I wouldn't be surprised if hardmirror would have been among the few disciples that remained with Jesus, when many of His disciples were said to have left Him because of His hard sayings, had he been here at the time, while it's people like you that would have been among those many false disciples that left Jesus because of the same hard sayings which He spake.[/quote]Yes, he would have stayed back with Jesus, even when he turned away from following after Jesus (Which i doubt he even did), when he prayed and fasted for 70 days for the Lord's prophecies to fail, when he didn't get answers he turn against Christ. He indeed is a true disciple who demands from his master what his master must do or he doesn't exist.

I'm watching to see your reason when you shall become an atheist.

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For it's possible that while the potential true disciples as him have left the church because of the lack of hard sayings in it (because it's only such words that could be used to retain such ones, as it was with the true disciples of Jesus that remained with him because of His hard sayings) the likes of you many false disciples have remained because of the words of the flesh.

So I believe that he'd be back when the hard sayings make a return to the church, as it ought to be, while the likes of you would be driven away with such sayings and except you decide to upgrade.[/quote]Mention one of these your hard sayings. I have been reading your thoughts here, they hardly make any sense talk more of them being hard as a true disciple that you are.
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And believe me the hard sayings of Jesus is already coming back to the church where it rightfully belongs but i'm not sure you would want to be an opposition to it.

So don't worry about such atheists, but worry about yourself, for God may even see some of them as hardmirror as better vessels than yourself, despite him being an atheist because with him, God knows what He's going to get is what He deserves which is everything, as he wouldn't want to settle for less and spiritual mediocrity as the likes of you, but would want to give God his all.[/quote]Can you stop with the repetitions and mention one hard sayings of Jesus? Boy, you talk nonsense.

Anas09:
You mean the likes of hardmirror where not in the days Christ? The last time i checked, they followed Him everywhere He went. They ate the food he multiplied, he healed their Children and relatives, yet they accused Him and sort for ways to kill Him like the likes of hardmirror does here.

They were there and they were the disciples who remained with Him even in His temptations, the only time they left Him was when he was apprehended, for if hardmirror had witnessed the kind of works that Jesus did, He would not have left Him, for that's the only reason He became an atheist if you ask me, what He saw in the Biblical church didn't tally with what he was seeing presently, but he was not willing to settle for crumbs and substandard works as the likes of your spiritually shallow minds do. That's why I said he'll be back because he's gonna get the kind of works he so desires and even more very soon. WATCH THIS SPACE...

Anas09:
Master of Senselessness. This is why i call you disguised atheist.


When did you meet Jesus and what was your epiphany? How did you become a Disciple of Jesus?

I don't blame you! Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth runs, that's why ignorance is rushing out of your mouth. You don't even know what it means to be a disciple of Jesus, and i'm not even going to waste any effort to explain it to uncircumcised heart which is waxed gross

Anas09:
Wow. this guy is indeed delusional. Are you off your meds? I see he is your role model.

I'll be here to call you out for the liar that you are very soon.

Thanks for the compliment, for that's what the likes of you blind leaders/sheeple called Jesus and John the Baptist, so for you to call same it's indeed an honor.

Yeah right you can't even see the extent to which you are contradicting your confused self, as you can't seem to make up your mind who you think I am.

From a disguised atheist. Next a christian who you would be watching that would become an atheist.

It that same confusion that has made you to call hardmirror model, so I won't even take that seriously unless you are able to prove that your sickness of confusion and self-contradiction has been treated.

Anas09:
(Which i doubt he even did), when he prayed and
fasted for 70 days for the Lord's prophecies to fail, when he didn't get answers he turn against Christ. He indeed is a true disciple who demands from his master what his master must do or he doesn't exist.

I'm watching to see your reason when you shall become an atheist.

Yeah exactly my point, no longer a disguised atheist, but now an atheist to be, next it would be an Islamic scholar. #confusedconfusionist

Anas09:
Mention one of these your hard sayings. I have been reading your thoughts here, they hardly make any sense talk more of them being hard as a true disciple that you are.

Can you stop with the repetitions and mention one hard sayings of Jesus? Boy, you talk nonsense.

Wow! I feel very sorry for the sayings of Jesus that you have in your Bible, for you've shown that you have been an absolute waste of them, as the grossness of your heart has not allowed it to bear any fruits in your life.

But since you asked for it, i'm going to oblige you as product of such sayings and someone who has made it to be very useful in his life:

John 6:60-66 (KJV)

Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.[/b]

So have you seen yourself there? Now that's why I said you were a false disciples despite being a righteous christian, and believe me it just because of who I am that i'm not letting you possibly take that away from me in spite of your persistence with your blind accusations.

And I would also oblige you what Jesus said that made them leave, and you'll show me where it was in the scriptures, for here is it:

John 6:53-57 (KJV)

"...Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me."

Now tell me the truth, and be honest with yourself at least for once, if you were a disciple of Jesus and you were there when He said these very words, would you have yet remained with Him?

You think it's just about claiming to love Jesus, for the Jesus you love is the one that your imaginations has created to suit your convenience and fleshy desires, but if the real Jesus were here based on your accusations of my person alone, you wouldn't have loved Him, because of such hard sayings of His which contradicted the teachings in the scriptures.

So at least now whenever you hear me talk of hard sayings you would understand what I mean, for they are the Words of the Spirit which gives life.

And you should also know that despite that it was a hard saying of Jesus which could not be backed by the scriptures, there were yet the disciples that remained because of it.

Now those are the true disciples of Jesus.

jesusjnr:
They were there and they were the disciples who remained with Him even in His temptations, the only time they left Him was when he was apprehended, for if hardmirror had witnessed the kind of works that Jesus did, He would not have left Him, for that's the only reason He became an atheist if you ask me, what He saw in the Biblical church didn't tally with what he was seeing presently, but he was not willing to settle for crumbs and substandard works as the likes of your spiritually shallow minds do. That's why I said he'll be back because he's gonna get the kind of works he so desires and even more very soon. WATCH THIS SPACE...

Wait!!!!!!, am i engaging a nut case? You mean the enemies of Jesus were the disciples who remained with Him at His passion? Really?

Oh Wow. the likes of hardmirror were the true disciples yet if he had they had witness his works they would not have left Him. What are you talking abt? Pls get help you are sick.

jesusjnr:
I don't blame you! Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth runs, that's why ignorance is rushing out of your mouth. You don't even know what it means to be a disciple of Jesus, and i'm not even going to waste any effort to explain it to uncircumcised heart which is waxed gross

Dont do it for me, do it for your audience.

How did you become a disciple of Jesus?

jesusjnr:
Thanks for the compliment, for that's what the likes of you blind leaders/sheeple called Jesus and John the Baptist, so for you to call same it's indeed an honor.
Yeah right you can't even see the extent to which you are contradicting your confused self, as you can't seem to make up your mind who you think I am.
From a disguised atheist. Next a christian who you would be watching that would become an atheist.
It that same confusion that has made you to call hardmirror model, so I won't even take that seriously unless you are able to prove that your sickness of confusion and self-contradiction has been treated.

How did you become a disciple of Jesus?

jesusjnr:
Yeah exactly my point, no longer a disguised atheist, but now an atheist to be, next it would be an Islamic scholar. #confusedconfusionist

How did you Meet Jesus? Answer me. Don't think you'd run from this. Tell your audience how you encountered Jesus and got convicted that He is indeed the saviour of the world.

[qconfusedconfusionist post=74782428]
"...Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me."[/quote]These are the hard sayings that made the disciples to leave Him, but only true disciples like you and haredmirror remained?

Can you interpret what Jesus meant by His Flesh and Blood in the verses?

jesusjnr:
Now tell me the truth, and be honest with yourself at least for once, if you were a disciple of Jesus and you were there when He said these very words, would you have yet remained with Him?

No, i won't. Only you and hardmirror will remain seeing are the true disciples.

jesusjnr:
You think it's just about claiming to love Jesus, for the Jesus you love is the one that your imaginations has created to suit your convenience and fleshy desires, but if the real Jesus were here based on your accusations of my person alone, you wouldn't have loved Him, because of such hard sayings of His which contradicted the teachings in the scriptures.

Jesus' hard sayings contradicted which scriptures? Oh What??, i think am talking to someone with bipolar syndrome.

jesusjnr:
So at least now whenever you hear me talk of hard sayings you would understand what I mean, for they are the Words of the Spirit which gives life.
And you should also know that despite that it was a hard saying of Jesus which could not be backed by the scriptures, there were yet the disciples that remained because of it.
Now those are the true disciples of Jesus.

When you are done rambling, remember to tell your audience how you meet Jesus.

Anas09:
Wait!!!!!!, am i engaging a nut case? You mean the enemies of Jesus were the disciples who remained with Him at His passion? Really?

Oh Wow. the likes of hardmirror were the true disciples yet if he had they had witness his works they would not have left Him. What are you talking abt? Pls get help you are sick.


Dont do it for me, do it for your audience.

How did you become a disciple of Jesus?


How did you become a disciple of Jesus?


How did you Meet Jesus? Answer me. Don't think you'd run from this. Tell your audience how you encountered Jesus and got convicted that He is indeed the saviour of the world.

[qconfusedconfusionist post=74782428]
"...Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me."
These are the hard sayings that made the disciples to leave Him, but only true disciples like you and haredmirror remained?

Can you interpret what Jesus meant by His Flesh and Blood in the verses?


Now tell me the truth, and be honest with yourself at least for once, if you were a disciple of Jesus and you were there when He said these very words, would you have yet remained with Him?
No, i won't. Only you and hardmirror will remain seeing are the true disciples.

You think it's just about claiming to love Jesus, for the Jesus you love is the one that your imaginations has created to suit your convenience and fleshy desires, but if the real Jesus were here based on your accusations of my person alone, you wouldn't have loved Him, because of such hard sayings of His which contradicted the teachings in the scriptures.
Jesus' hard sayings contradicted which scriptures? Oh What??, i think am talking to someone with bipolar syndrome.


So at least now whenever you hear me talk of hard sayings you would understand what I mean, for they are the Words of the Spirit which gives life.
And you should also know that despite that it was a hard saying of Jesus which could not be backed by the scriptures, there were yet the disciples that remained because of it.
Now those are the true disciples of Jesus.
When you are done rambling, remember to tell your audience how you meet Jesus.

Don't worry I won't descend to your level of abuses and insults to prove that I know better than you, for hence the difference is proven clear indeed.

jesusjnr a Jesus' true disciple is better than Anas a righteous christian!

p.s. I take back the crossed comment for it's been proven otherwise

jesusjnr:
Don't worry I won't descend to your level of abuses and insults to prove that I know better than you, for hence the difference is proven clear indeed.

jesusjnr a Jesus' true disciple is better than Anas a righteous christian!

Still waiting to hear how you met Jesus and became his disciple. You may want to take your meds first before you venture into it.