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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 6:52pm On Jan 24, 2019
PROVERBZ:
lekki free trade zone dredging and reclaiming of lans just like in eko atlantic it costs 14billion USD its 2bn dollars refinery almost completed one of the biggest in the world being built by dangote will also contain a deep sea port to be built by the government and various amenities including luxury and affordable housing for the workers

Kenya's would find it interesting that the company overseeing this project is reandevour they are also over seeing the construction of tatu city and Appolonia city

now u see what we are talking about look at the technicality and the bold future it represents its one of the answers to Nigeria's problem as the refinary will power the whole of Lagos 24/7 and will also produce fertilizers for farms
And why are you always reclaiming land from the sea
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 6:52pm On Jan 24, 2019
tylann:

Where i come from our county government has installed solar powered streetlights
virtually almost every streetlight is solar powered in Lagos
There are houses who use roofs with solar power panels

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 6:54pm On Jan 24, 2019
tylann:

And why are you always reclaiming land from the sea
Because of the deficiency of land in Lagos

Lagos has abundance of water,hence the need for creating more islands
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PROVERBZ(m): 7:07pm On Jan 24, 2019
tylann:

And why are you always reclaiming land from the sea
look at centenary city one of the reasons it took so long to kick off so so court case with land owners

Lagos is the smallest state in Nigeria most land has been used

and cause ItS cool lol
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:18pm On Jan 24, 2019
vaxx:
hummm and if that is the case, why are they not regulate by bank of Ghana. which part of ghana is Menzgold buying their gold from to be paying 10% per monthly. it seems too good to be true . is it not a virtual gold?
from small scale miners
they are not regulated because they were just a trading firm

the formal governor made efforts to bring them to the mainstream
to be regulated
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 7:35pm On Jan 24, 2019
Just30:
from small scale miners
they are not regulated because they were just a trading firm

the formal governor made efforts to bring them to the mainstream
to be regulated
Then that is unlicensed operation. it does not have the license to trade in gold collectibles from the public
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 7:46pm On Jan 24, 2019
PROVERBZ:
look at centenary city one of the reasons it took so long to kick off so so court case with land owners

Lagos is the smallest state in Nigeria most land has been used

and cause ItS cool lol

What about the inland states they handle such huge projects i know
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 7:47pm On Jan 24, 2019
samsobo24:
virtually almost every streetlight is solar powered in Lagos
There are houses who use roofs with solar power panels

That is good
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 7:51pm On Jan 24, 2019
PROVERBZ:
look at centenary city one of the reasons it took so long to kick off so so court case with land owners

Lagos is the smallest state in Nigeria most land has been used

and cause ItS cool lol

How is centenary city progressing
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PROVERBZ(m): 7:59pm On Jan 24, 2019
tylann:

What about the inland states they handle such huge projects i know
jos plateau state Nigeria would have been the idle place high altitude has affected the weather hear its mostly cold most white people in Nigerian like it here its green etc it does not have resource control could have been a big city cuz we have columbite and tin here and population should be between 2-3 million for such are large land mass its sparsely populated


but one of the major problems here is religious crisis in the main city and farmer herdsmen crisis in the country sides even I took part in the last crisis man has to protect himself
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:01pm On Jan 24, 2019
PROVERBZ:
lekki free trade zone dredging and reclaiming of lans just like in eko atlantic it costs 14billion USD its 2bn dollars refinery almost completed one of the biggest in the world being built by dangote will also contain a deep sea port to be built by the government and various amenities including luxury and affordable housing for the workers

Kenya's would find it interesting that the company overseeing this project is reandevour they are also over seeing the construction of tatu city and Appolonia city

now u see what we are talking about look at the technicality and the bold future it represents its one of the answers to Nigeria's problem as the refinary will power the whole of Lagos 24/7 and will also produce fertilizers for farms

I wish this project become profitable not another white elephant because the taxpayers are going to suffer. You spend billions of us dollar reclaiming land from the sea when there is plenty land in nigeria. It is going to be another white elephant. If he built it inland it would have cost 50% less money. You can see it is putting a lot of stress on him and also financial difficulties he has lost more than 3 billion us dollar last year
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PROVERBZ(m): 8:02pm On Jan 24, 2019
tylann:

How is centenary city progressing
its doing fine no major structure yet but the basics are being done like clearing of grass, leveling planting of hybrid grass , marking of plots and round creation are on going

the groove a set of residential buildings will be the first infrastruct on ground along side a polo field and a golf course
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PROVERBZ(m): 8:04pm On Jan 24, 2019
sufferNsmiling:


I wish this project become profitable not another white elephant because the taxpayers are going to suffer. You spend billions of us dollar reclaiming land from the sea when there is plenty land in nigeria. It is going to be another white elephant. If he built it inland it would have cost 50% less money. You can see it is putting a lot of stress on him and also financial difficulties he has lost more than 3 billion us dollar last year
we should build the sea port on land right ??
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 8:10pm On Jan 24, 2019
PROVERBZ:
its doing fine no major structure yet but the basics are being done like clearing of grass, leveling planting of hybrid grass , marking of plots and round creation are on going

the groove a set of residential buildings will be the first infrastruct on ground along side a polo field and a golf course

Who is building centenary city is it public private relationship
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 8:12pm On Jan 24, 2019
PROVERBZ:
jos plateau state Nigeria would have been the idle place high altitude has affected the weather hear its mostly cold most white people in Nigerian like it here its green etc it does not have resource control could have been a big city cuz we have columbite and tin here and population should be between 2-3 million for such are large land mass its sparsely populated


but one of the major problems here is religious crisis in the main city and farmer herdsmen crisis in the country sides even I took part in the last crisis man has to protect himself

That is insecurity because of marauding Fulani herdsman
Why you govt deal with that problem once and for all
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:13pm On Jan 24, 2019
PROVERBZ:
look at centenary city one of the reasons it took so long to kick off so so court case with land owners

Lagos is the smallest state in Nigeria most land has been used

and cause ItS cool lol


Lagos has plenty land available but everybody wants to build near the sea. So they can smuggle their goods into nigeria easily from benin republic and togo on small boat. Another big issue it is borrowed money for this maker projects.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PROVERBZ(m): 8:43pm On Jan 24, 2019
tylann:

Who is building centenary city is it public private relationship
initially the city was proposed to be built for 100years celebration by the federal government but they could not handle it so alone so recently a Dubai based company front range or eagles hills invested 18.5 billion and its now a PPP public private partnership and the signature infrastructure will be the address hotel owned by front range who also of n a lot of properties in Dubai including the same the address. hotel in Dubai I red they have something in one of Kenya's wildlife park
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:46pm On Jan 24, 2019
vaxx:
Then that is unlicensed operation. it does not have the license to trade in gold collectibles from the public
in has the license to trade in gold
but not to offer returns on trade
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PROVERBZ(m): 8:47pm On Jan 24, 2019
tylann:

That is insecurity because of marauding Fulani herdsman
Why you govt deal with that problem once and for all
am sure it would be looked into now this bandits are now also attacking Hausa and Fulani villages in zamfara and katsina
they are not Nigerians they northerners thought there was a one percent chance they where doing them and islam a service by attacking non Hausas

the army engaged and killed 58 1 day ago

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:52pm On Jan 24, 2019
abbeg:
Influence is one of the reasons for owning lots of jets.Take USA for example.Do they need all those planes?But yet they make new ones each year.

UG doesnt have any influence on/over Kenya or Ethiopia with their Su-30s. Dont get ahead of yourself. USA needs lots of arms because they are in an arms race with global powers and sworn enemies like Iran, N.Korea. Same goes to Russia, China, India etc. But not you and our neighbors Uganda. You have no foreign threats (actually UG has a more realistic foreign threat from DRC, Sudan and Rwanda). Your respective govts have a terrible sense of proprioception.



And bh has a lot of armoured vehicles which I'm not sure a little bird or gazelle can destroy.Hence the mi35. They even own tanks.

Classic chicken vs egg rat race/vicious cycle. Bh gets its tanks from Nigeria army bases after overruning them, then the army purchases Mi-35s to shoot the tanks sad

Yes, Little Birds are/can be armed with anti-tank missiles including the famous Hellfire missile as well as stingers and any other weapon you need to fight marauding terrorists, all of them laser guided, so you hardly miss. Your alphas could also do the job quite effectively with minimal risk but ofcourse being jets they cant engage for extensive periods like the Ah-6. Little birds are excellent due to their high maneuverability, flexibility and versatility. Just one them can engage a bunch of separate targets running helter skelter below, swiftly switching between targets. Thats why American Special Ops use them. They were used by the USAF to rescue injured American soldiers during black hawk dawn. You can check the vid below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpktklSGD30


Nigeria uses Russian doctrine which requires a chopper to actively support troops during combat.They also need to be able to transport troops.That's why Russian choppers always have extra capacity for troops and/or ammo and fuel.They can even reload during missions!

Kenya also employs the Russian doctrine in Somalia. Attack choppers are always lurking to provide air cover in case of an ambush. The issue here is at what cost are you providing aerial support against mere terrorists? In Nigeria you go for expensive, unsuitable, unsustainable, and evidently ineffective heavy duty arsenal to deal with ants, and neglect the boots on the ground who lack even basic military fatigues. In Kenya its the opposite. Our infantry are well equipped and well fatigued, you'll never encounter a complaint about neglect from them, and then we go for the least expensive, most effective proven hardware. Consequently, our soldiers are always in high morale. The other day a wounded Kenyan soldier recovering at a hospital pleaded with the president to redeploy him to Somalia immediately he recovers. That sort of morale! Your top army general complained how you've spent as much as $ 9 billion to fight BH with very little to show. Obviously your military top brass led by none other than his highness General Bubu are a bunch of clueless senile mofos. With that kind of money and proper strategy you should have eliminated BH, ISWAP, Delta avengers and any other terror group by now. Kenya has spent a mere $ 900m in Somalia since 2011, tentatively. Take note we get FULLY reimbursed all the costs by the AU, UN and EU so its basically a free training course for our soldiers, albeit very practical and the threat very real. Even if we decided to spend extravagantly we would still be reimbursed FULL AMOUNT but we choose not to with the aforementioned understanding in mind. Dont waste precious resources fighting jellyfish-brained terrorists. The best thing is to invest in well-trained, well-equipped, motivated boots on the ground to deny them territory.


Even their mi28 which is basically a Russian apache has this capability.

Nope! Kdf has them but they dont perform the role of transporting troops. Besides attack, the only thing they do is evacuation. And we are yet to use them against terrorists because its a waste of resources. We use light attack choppers ; MD-500, MD-530F; AH-6, Harbin Z-9 and more rarely the Fennec AS350 B3.


For foot soldiers we have our alpha jets.These planes are fond of decimating bh terrorists.Sometimes up to fifty to a single plane at one go.

This is sth our F-5 lumberjacks do on a regular basis. Hard to recount the number of times Kenyan Tigers have razed mujaheddin graduation ceremonies and terrorist camps to the ground, with casualties often approaching and even exceeding 100 at once. Nonetheless, you do it cheaper than us on that specific front with your equally outdated easy-to-handle trainer Alpha jets. I dont think Kenya ever purchased alpha trainers. Clearly you got them when you were a bit wiser. You should now arm them with Maverick anti-tank missiles and forget the expensive, crash-prone & slow attack Mi-35 helis. Ideally you'd only need half a dozen of the alphas to finish all the bh tanks but apparently you have about 2 dozen, some of which you acquired in a mysterious armsgate scandal whereby a dude named Dasuki pocketed a cool $1.7 B, and you're still acquiring more!! What for? Training?? At least we are not purchasing any more F-5s! And you mocked our crop dusters, which actually fit very well into our doctrine of not wasting resources in fighting technically inexhaustible enemies.


And Nigeria isn't Uganda that leaves planes to rot.That's one of our strengths.Take our f7s.They have probably never seen combat all their lives yet they are still functional or at least almost fly able.I doubt our Flankers will be any different.

No I never said uganda leaves planes to rot. They are actually quite war-conscious and never let their arms rot. They'd rather have Air Uganda collapse and rot but not their prized UPDF. All I was saying is Naija is known for poor maintenance culture judging by the rusted remains of okada airways, and your ill-equipped, ill-motivated soldiers. Saw a thread of your soldiers gearing up to fight bh and felt disheartened. They were to be transported in white minivans I think. Boss! They looked like walking corpses taking selfies. If indeed its not the case and you guys actually give your titanium-coated warplanes better care than the keratin skinned soldiers then you are of the alien kind.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:00pm On Jan 24, 2019
UyiIredia:


Sort what out? What do you even mean? The issue here is how the NA overspends in luxuries it cannot maintain and lacks solid basics. It's so bad Nigerians are well aware troops fighting BH are short on weapons and food. And you still chest-beat.

Exactly. Cant get basics right but wants to spend like they are prepping for WW3.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 9:12pm On Jan 24, 2019
PROVERBZ:
am sure it would be looked into now this bandits are now also attacking Hausa and Fulani villages in zamfara and katsina
they are not Nigerians they northerners thought there was a one percent chance they where doing them and islam a service by attacking non Hausas

the army engaged and killed 58 1 day ago

Wtf !!! Where do herdsmen get RPGs
I smell a rat here
In kenya we have cattle bandits they are mostly armed with ak-47s but RPGs
Something must be wrong somewhere

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:18pm On Jan 24, 2019
Just30:
Nairobi court

Sleek cool


There's Accra Rd in Nairobi which I think might be one the oldest roads in the city.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:24pm On Jan 24, 2019
Barbilius:
Cu

Distinctive Star of David shape 3rd pic.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:27pm On Jan 24, 2019
Jonraid:
Ethiopia overtaking Kenya as the largest economy by GDP in East Africa was only a short lived minute euphoria like chicken sex!

grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:42pm On Jan 24, 2019
Jonraid:
Look at Ghana readying to outpace the jealousy Southern Neighbour with almost half the population that Tz has! grin
We are not in a business of cooking GDP data.We are dealing with complex issues,scientific stuffs which no Kenyan can match us.Tanzania is in a different league.We are competing with S.Africa in science!
Swallow this pill u kiberans..

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 9:43pm On Jan 24, 2019
Sexy lagos

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:46pm On Jan 24, 2019
Just30:
influence where ?

cause even Obasanjo came to plead with Ghana
so that we can help talk to the Americans on behalf of Nigerian
Obasanjo wanted the Americans to allow Nigeria to build nuclear reactors for electricity generation in Nigeria.

Thanks to Ghana for training Nigerians to run nuclear reactors. You folks are doing a great job! Hosting Nigerian engineers and taught them the basics of reactor core conversion and they didnt mention. Had it been the other way round they would been all over shouting how they trained you little sisters grin

https://gaecgh.org/ghana-hosts-nigerian-nuclear-engineers-on-reactor-core-conversion/

That should be the second time you have helped them avert a nuclear catastrophe. The other time was when you organized, together with the nuclear agency and global powers USA and China to have the highly enriched uranium in Nigeria taken out of the forsaken country before terrorists capture it and make nuclear bombs. Quite nerve wrecking ...

https://www.defensenews.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/01/14/how-the-us-and-china-collaborated-to-get-nuclear-material-out-of-nigeria-and-away-from-terrorist-groups/

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 9:48pm On Jan 24, 2019
Beauty

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 9:52pm On Jan 24, 2019
Rainy Lagos mainland

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:54pm On Jan 24, 2019
mtisTheQubit:

So true..with exception of SA the rest are just boasted by mineral stuff..am not saying that they are not doing well but we just cant rule out the effect of fossils on their economy..

By the i never realised how Kenya is growing so fast of late.. grin

Ok I thought you meant all the circled are fossil economies. Why pick on SA ? grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 9:55pm On Jan 24, 2019
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