raumdeuter:


The original argument is that Salah was the best African player in the EPL. All others are distraction

You claim Salah has currently done more than Drogba because he scored 32 goals or because he scored 7 goals against the other top 5 last season? What's your reason again to be very clear?

^^^^
Only him say Salah Na forward Drogba Na striker after reminding him Drogba had lesser appearance

This thread must be cleansed.

raumdeuter:


DeLima didnt play great in the Serie A, he was injured for most of the time
Adriano, Robinho, Ronaldinho? Are you just spewing names out?

DeLima didn’t play great but still won fifa player of the year while in Italy.if my memory serves me right he did scored 25goals in 27 appearances during his time there and if this is not great then why should salah who scored 32goals in 36 appearances should be great?
Pls just stop before you expose yourself further.

raumdeuter:


What was the basis and origin of the argument. You get distracted beasily and not focus on the main topic

Main topic

[b]Who is the best African performer of all time in the EPL?[/b]

Is Higuaín the best South American performer of all time in Seria A too ?

popizaino:


Is Higuaín the best South American performer of all time in Seria A too ?

He rate Salah ahead of yaya(a midfielder) but don’t want to rate Higuaín and maradona(an attacker).

popizaino:


Is Higuaín the best South American performer of all time in Seria A too ?

Raumdateur abeg answer na...

Mohamed Salah - Broke the premier league record for goals in a season, finished 4th and ended up trophyless and he automatically becomes GREATEST AFRICAN TO HAVE PLAYED IN PREMIER LEAGUE.

GONZALO HIGUAIN - Broke the Serie A record for goals in a season, finished 2nd and ended up trophyless so he should be considered the GREATEST SOUTH AMERICAN TO HAVE PLAYED IN SERIE A.... YES OR NO?

hensben:
He rate Salah ahead of yaya(a midfielder) but don’t want to rate Higuaín and maradona(an attacker).

cc : raumdateur

raumdeuter:


The original argument is that Salah was the best African player in the EPL. All others are distraction

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raumdeuter:


You see how the logic you tried to introduce was sharply defeated.
Try to focus, the main topic is Best player from Africa in the EPL.

Nah. I just don’t want to engage in unnecessary perennial arguments.

You are looking for the greatest African player in the EPL but you don’t want us to include performances of such players in the UCL (the biggest competition in club football) while playing in the EPL.

With your reasoning, the UCL is not an important competition. Yet you berate players for an unimpressive UCL career.

UCL and league performances are not mutually exclusive when scoring players. If the UCL must be a stand-alone criteria, why is league results required for qualification? Also, why should we be picky about what competitions they’ve played in when in England? Why shouldn’t it be their overall contribution to their club? This one still baffles me TBVH.

Eto’o is the greatest African player to play in La Liga. This is because of his performances in the Spanish league PLUS the UCL while playing in Spain.

Mo Salah has never won the English premier league NOR the UCL but to you he’s the greatest African player in the EPL while Drogba, who has won both coveted trophies, is a nobody.

raumdeuter:


That is how arguments and debates work, you try your est give all your points and when the other side whips you with superior logic and facts you take a seat and wait for the next opportunity

This logic you think you have,can you prove that 1+1=2?.lol,drogba was already declining at 31,and he even played at least 4 league matches less than salah and you have the effontery to speak balderdash,without factoring the number of matches played by both players.If this is not sheer stupidity,it can only be an idiotic attempt at putting salah where he shouldnt be for now.
P.S: I would ignore any more senseless posts from you.

eph12:

You claim Salah has currently done more than Drogba because he scored 32 goals or because he scored 7 goals against the other top 5 last season? What's your reason again to be very clear?

Both scored 7 goals vs top team, Salah outscored Drogba despite playing as a wing forward. That is why Salahs performance is better than Drogbas best

popizaino:


DeLima didn’t play great but still won fifa player of the year while in Italy.if my memory serves me right he did scored 25goals in 27 appearances during his time there and if this is not great then why should salah who scored 32goals in 36 appearances should be great?
Pls just stop before you expose yourself further.

Did he win the WPOTY that year because of his performance in the Serie A?

popizaino:


Is Higuaín the best South American performer of all time in Seria A too ?

Yaya has a good argument and infact he will be my close second to Salah. Because Yaya was more consistent than Drogba.

Higuain has a good argument to make but the issues are that there are so many great South American performers in Italian football history and a lot of them are not attackers

e.g Where will you put Maradona, Javier Zanetti, Paolo Montero, Cafu Kaka

Unlike Africans in the EPL, we didnt have many great defenders and few great midfielders like Yaya, Essien

raumdeuter:


Both scored 7 goals vs top team, Salah outscored Drogba despite playing as a wing forward. That is why Salahs performance is better than Drogbas best

What wing forward? Salah plays further than every other attacker in that team, don't let the line up deceive you.

thorrvik55:


Raumdateur abeg answer na...

Mohamed Salah - Broke the premier league record for goals in a season, finished 4th and ended up trophyless and he automatically becomes GREATEST AFRICAN TO HAVE PLAYED IN PREMIER LEAGUE.

GONZALO HIGUAIN - Broke the Serie A record for goals in a season, finished 2nd and ended up trophyless so he should be considered the GREATEST SOUTH AMERICAN TO HAVE PLAYED IN SERIE A.... YES OR NO?

Yaya has a good argument and infact he will be my close second to Salah. Because Yaya was more consistent than Drogba.

Higuain has a good argument to make but the issues is that there are so many great South American performers in Italian football history and a lot of them are not attackers

e.g Where will you put Maradona, Javier Zanetti, Paolo Montero, Cafu Kaka

Unlike Africans in the EPL, we didnt have many great defenders and few great midfielders like Yaya, Essien

Leyqute:


Nah. I just don’t want to engage in unnecessary perennial arguments.

You are looking for the greatest African player in the EPL but you don’t want us to include performances of such players in the UCL (the biggest competition in club football) while playing in the EPL.

With your reasoning, the UCL is not an important competition. Yet you berate players for an unimpressive UCL career.

UCL and league performances are not mutually exclusive when scoring players. If the UCL must be a stand-alone criteria, why is league results required for qualification? Also, why should we be picky about what competitions they’ve played in when in England? Why shouldn’t it be their overall contribution to their club? This one still baffles me TBVH.

Eto’o is the greatest African player to play in La Liga. This is because of his performances in the Spanish league PLUS the UCL while playing in Spain.

Mo Salah has never won the English premier league NOR the UCL but to you he’s the greatest African player in the EPL while Drogba, who has won both coveted trophies, is a nobody.

If I ask you who is the best Argentine in Copa America, Will you tell us its Icardi based on his performance in Serie A or Messi because of CL

The key question who is the best performance by African in the EPL specifically not CL FA cup, Nations cup Europa or Shell cup

Who is the best student in JAMB will you now say Its John because he was the best in WAEC?

UCL and league are two different competitions just like CL and CWC are 2 different competitions. if they are choosing best player in the UCL, your performance in the league means nothing.

If they say who is the best keeper at the world cup, will you say Degea because he was great in qualifiers?

simonjassy:

This logic you think you have,can you prove that 1+1=2?.lol,drogba was already declining at 31,and he even played at least 4 league matches less than salah and you have the effontery to speak balderdash,without factoring the number of matches played by both players.If this is not sheer stupidity,it can only be an idiotic attempt at putting salah where he shouldnt be for now.
P.S: I would ignore any more senseless posts from you.

Age? Tell us how many goals Drogba was scoring under 30. A player was scoring 5, 8 10 12 goals under 30 and is blaming age for why he isnt scoring much over 30

Salah is a wing forward, Drogba is a striker. And we have checked their minutes played, Salah has more goals per minute played than Drogba

If you cannot understand such basic Maths, It will be a good reason why you are a Chelsea fan. Intelligence doesnt mix with most Chelsea fans

Raumdeuter How do you pick the best student in WAEC at Aparisports Secondsry Unschool?

Do you take into account students’ score in English only or their scores in English, Mathematics AND other subjects?

Answers on a postcard please.

Who is the greatest Nigerian EPL player- J J Okocha or Kanu Nwankwo?

Leyqute:
Raumdeuter How do you pick the best student in WAEC at Aparisports Secondsry Unschool?

Do you take into account students’ score in English only or their scores in English, Mathematics AND other subjects?

Answers on a postcard please.

Let me ask you the same question you asked me

How do you determine highest scorer at Elekute sports

How do you determine the highest scorer in the EPL? Is it by adding their goals vs Everton, Man Utd, Chelsea Liverpool City, Arsenal and other teams or just take their goals vs Man Utd only?

Answer on a postcard please.

You see how sensible the question is

Leyqute:
Who is the greatest Nigerian EPL player- J J Okocha or Kanu Nwankwo?

What was the best Kanu season in EPL and what was the best JJ season in EPL

What were their contribution to their teams

raumdeuter:


Yaya has a good argument and infact he will be my close second to Salah. Because Yaya was more consistent than Drogba.

Higuain has a good argument to make but the issues is that there are so many great South American performers in Italian football history and a lot of them are not attackers

e.g Where will you put Maradona, Javier Zanetti, Paolo Montero, Cafu Kaka

Unlike Africans in the EPL, we didnt have many great defenders and few great midfielders like Yaya, Essien

U rated Salah ahead of Yaya toure but u don't want to use the same criteria (breaking d goals record) to rate HIGUAIN as d greatest south American ahead of players like maradona, zanetti, kaka...

U did not put into consideration the fact dat Salah is an attacker and Yaya toure is a midfielder (plus his achievements/contributions in the EPL) but now rate HIGUAIN u are saying d others are not strikers so u can't rate HIGUAIN ahead of them...


MY GUY ABEG STAND ONE PLAXE MAKE WE KNOW WHICH SIDE U DEY...

raumdeuter:


Age? Tell us how many goals Drogba was scoring under 30. A player was scoring 5, 8 10 12 goals under 30 and is blaming age for why he isnt scoring much over 30

Salah is a wing forward, Drogba is a striker. And we have checked their minutes played, Salah has more goals per minute played than Drogba

If you cannot understand such basic Maths, It will be a good reason why you are a Chelsea fan. Intelligence doesnt mix with most Chelsea fans

minutes played in their best individual seasons?.let's not forget that drogba's career was plagued with injuries.As for the intelligence bit,I am a student of one of the best universities in Nigeria,that should be enough to throw that in a bin.
Once again,with your superior logic,can you prove that 1 + 1=2?.

raumdeuter:

Let me ask you the same question you asked me

How do you determine highest scorer at Elekute sports

How do you determine the highest scorer in the EPL? Is it by adding their goals vs Everton, Man Utd, Chelsea Liverpool City, Arsenal and other teams or just take their goals vs Man Utd only?

Answer on a postcard please.

You see how sensible the question is

Where is Salah's EPL trophy? Abi that one no dey ur criteria again.

thorrvik55:


U rated Salah ahead of Yaya toure but u don't want to use the same criteria (breaking d goals record) to rate HIGUAIN as d greatest south American ahead of players like maradona, zanetti, kaka...

U did not put into consideration the fact dat Salah is an attacker and Yaya toure is a midfielder (plus his achievements/contributions in the EPL) but now rate HIGUAIN u are saying d others are not strikers so u can't rate HIGUAIN ahead of them...


MY GUY ABEG STAND ONE PLAXE MAKE WE KNOW WHICH SIDE U DEY...

Do you know how to read?

Yaya has a good argument and infact he will be my close second to Salah. Because Yaya was more consistent than Drogba.

6606. More arguments.

simonjassy:

minutes played in their best individual seasons?.let's not forget that drogba's career was plagued with injuries.As for the intelligence bit,I am a student of one of the best universities in Nigeria,that should be enough to throw that in a bin.
Once again,with your superior logic,can you prove that 1 + 1=2?.

Yes. Minutes played in their best individual season. Calculate their goal per game For one playing as a wing forward and one playing as a striker

If you didnt tell me you are a student, I would have doubted it, Use of Logic and basic Arithmetic are far from your post

There are many mushroom universities now so one can't be too sure. Are you also admitted so you can play NUGA games for the school or for your scholastic abilities?

Prove 1+1=2? Any 4yr old will be told take 1 ball, take another ball together in a basket and count the total number of balls you have.

I am shocked a University student will be asking this type of question

raumdeuter:


Maybe you should have paid attention from beginning and not jumping around

Salah is the greatest African player to have played in the EPL But you want us to consider UCL as part of EPL. Like I asked can someone say Messi is the greatest Argentine in Copa America because he won the UCL?




When I made the claim, Salah was on his way to breaking the EPL goal scoring record, and he surely did breaking Drogba record. Explain to me how someone can score half of anothers 9 season goals in 1.5 seasons and you think they are equal?



This is where your Chelsea background is letting you down

Zlatan and Klose. What is the biggest competitions they ever played together world cup. Klose 15 goals in 4 world cups, Zlatan 0 in 2 world cups.

Now put your Maths to use and tell us the ratio

Iniesta vs Lampard: Performance in big games? Iniesta World cup final check, Lampard 40 shots no goal at world cup
Now decide

In the case of Salah and Drogba, we were specific about EPL from the beginning

In EPL

I will say Salah, Yaya, Drogba in that order. Yaya is close to Salah

all the rubbish above does not have salah's trophy with the big game performance to show for it. Again.

Where is salah's trophy?

Remember, number of goals and assists becomes irrelevant once there is big game performance and trophy for the other player being used for comparison.

Greatihex:
all the rubbish above does not have salah's trophy with the big game performance to show for it. Again.

Where is salah's trophy?

Remember, number of goals and assists becomes irrelevant once there is big game performance and trophy for the other player being used for comparison.

I still dey wait for the answer to this your question.

raumdeuter:


That is how arguments and debates work, you try your est give all your points and when the other side whips you with superior logic and facts you take a seat and wait for the next opportunity

aren't you the one that is supposed to be taking this advice?

Greatihex:
all the rubbish above does not have salah's trophy with the big game performance to show for it. Again.

Where is salah's trophy?

Remember, number of goals and assists becomes irrelevant once there is big game performance and trophy for the other player being used for comparison.

Salah did his part by scoring 32 goals, Drogba was winning league titles scorng 10 goals 8 goals 5 goals basically carried along to title.