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Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by hisexcellency34: 7:12am On Feb 21, 2019
How?

orisa37:
“Those condemning Buhari, are they suggesting that anybody who snatches a box on Election Day should be given a national honour?" No. They should be arrested and handed over to the Police not the Military for prosecution.

U.S Order to take life for any Act of illegality is constitutional.
Buhari's Order to kill Ballot Snatchers at sight, without Arrest and Trial, is uncivilised and unconstitutional.
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by endy69: 7:35am On Feb 21, 2019
nairavsdollars:
Temidayo Akinsuyi, Lagos

Prince Tony Momoh, a former Minister of Information on Wednesday said President Muhammadu Buhari’s directive to security agencies to deal ruthlessly with ballot box snatchers ahead of the 2019 general election is in order.

Speaking in a chat with Daily Independent, Momoh, one of the national leaders of the ruling All Progressives Congress (APC) said Nigerians do not expect the President to give national honours to those who committed crime by declaring war on due process and free, fair elections.

He said “What is snatching of ballot box? Snatching a box is a crime. It is declaration of war on due process and free, fair election. Anyone who declares war on due process is committing treason against due process.

“Those condemning Buhari, are they suggesting that anybody who snatches a box on Election Day should be given a national honour?

“I don’t know what Nigerians are talking about. In America, if you attempt to subvert due process, you can pay for it with your life.”
https://www.independent.ng/buhari-cant-give-national-awards-to-ballot-snatchers-tony-momoh/

Let me hear all those shouting #EndSARS or those campaigning against extrajudicial killings. Well IPOB once said that Nigeria is Zoo and I reacted badly. Even mob justice should be encouraged by these Buharists. One cannot support this Daura man without sounding stupid no matter how highly placed
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by CustardPrince(m): 9:25am On Feb 21, 2019
salford1:

Not sure this works 100% in a place like the US which is one of thw world's model of democracy. A landowner or shop owner or mall security can justify shooting to death someone that trespasses or thieves without even calling the authorities.

It's called Self Defense, of course, shooting an armed robber before he shoots you is justifiable

But we are talking about the Armed forces gunning down civilians that they 'think' is involved in ballot snatching
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by hisexcellency34: 9:43am On Feb 21, 2019
I agree with you. Ballot snatchers are also well armed

CustardPrince:


It's called Self Defense, of course, shooting an armed robber before he shoots you is justifiable

But we are talking about the Armed forces gunning down civilians that they 'think' is involved in ballot snatching
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by CustardPrince(m): 9:48am On Feb 21, 2019
hisexcellency34:
I agree with you. Ballot snatchers are also well armed


Then it is justifiable to shoot armed ballot snatchers as self defense... Not to shoot them on sight
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by DeeMain(m): 10:03am On Feb 21, 2019
Oshigun:


Sharrap my friend !!! The thugs snatching ballot boxes are Choir boys ba? You must be talking about another Nigeria because the ballot snatching thugs we have always known are hardened criminals and killer who fortify themselves with charms and carry knives, machetes and guns.

If you see one in action please go and approach him to reason with him to surrender the ballot box while you escort him to the police station so he can surrender himself for prosecution. See if that wont be the last thing you ever do. Just come online chatting rubbish because of hate foe PMB and APC. Nonsense.

You are the big fool here because you can't see the obvious link between thieving politicians and looters and the prevalence of societal ills and hardened criminals and thugs and hunger and poverty and youths restiveness and cultism and terrorism and ballot box snatching in our land.

Shoot them in jungle justice, extra judicially, outside the dictates of the constitution, while the evil men who send them are lounging.

What happened to legally prosecuting them?

You are blind to the root cause but arrogantly aware of the symptoms.

So blind you can't see our justice system is made to chase and convict the symptoms but preserve the evil source that perpetuates the cycle.

I don't even want to talk about the actual consequences, intended or unintended, of carrying out such an order.

Having eyes but cannot see.

My friend take several seats!
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by Amudeneogu: 10:06am On Feb 21, 2019
What of those who rooted treasure in America?
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by pryme(m): 10:08am On Feb 21, 2019
Joshmodest:
He didn't say the penalty for snatching ballot box in America, is death .....he said trying to obstruct due process u "might" pay for it with your life...before u fellas start spewing trash....Even suicide bombers in America are not given death penalty , just so u know....
What is wrong is wrong !!!!
I'm not a thief neither do I have any plans to steal... but I will totally kick against ,a shoot at sight order on any thief...because it's not constitutional , its called jungle justice!!
.......
It's what the Fulani herdsmen are doing , disturb my cows and I kill you....Buhari is a Fulani man tho ..what do I know

This is interesting :

You were able to identify the fact that he said "trying to obstruct due process" NOT "ballot box snatching"

So I want to ask you, how come you could identify those contexts but fail to recognize "deal ruthlessly" is not the same thing as "shoot on sight" or summary execution?

Why is it that our brains only tick by half when it comes to matters of this country?

Am yet to see anywhere in the dailies where Buhari said shoot on sight, but trust we Nigerians, we blow things out of proportion.

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Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by hisexcellency34: 10:30am On Feb 21, 2019
I concur with that

CustardPrince:


Then it is justifiable to shoot armed ballot snatchers as self defense... Not to shoot them on sight
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by Oziens: 10:33am On Feb 21, 2019
Does the constitution and our electoral act prescribed death penalty for ballot box snatches, and what is the role of military in our electoral process?

This is democracy guided by the rule of law. It's not a military administration.

So, let's be circumspect not to supporting dictatorship in a democratic dispensation. The rules of law should be upheld by genuine and a responsible leader.

pryme:


This is interesting :

You were able to identify the fact that he said "trying to obstruct due process" NOT "ballot box snatching"

So I want to ask you, how come you could identify those contexts but fail to recognize "deal ruthlessly" is not the same thing as "shoot on sight" or summary execution?

Why is it that our brains only tick by half when it comes to matters of this country?

Am yet to see anywhere in the dailies where Buhari said shoot on sight, but trust we Nigerians, we blow things out of proportion.
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by pryme(m): 10:45am On Feb 21, 2019
Oziens:
Does the constitution and our electoral act prescribed death penalty for ballot box snatches, and what is the role of military in our electoral process?

This is democracy guided by the rule of law. It's not a military administration.

So, let's be circumspect not to supporting dictatorship in a democratic dispensation. The rules of law should be upheld by genuine and a responsible leader.


Again,

You lost sight of the ball, my question was/is when did "deal ruthlessly" = "Death penalty"?

So if you threatened your son that if he steals meat you will deal with him ruthlessly does that mean you will murder the child if you catch him stealing meat?

Am surprised that well educated advance Nigerians are just thinking like a one eyed football fan.

Even if you are not a fan of Buhari don't be bias, just say things the way it is, NOT what you want it to be.

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Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by BigIyanga: 10:58am On Feb 21, 2019
TIGRITIS:
Hmmm.

That is the irony in the life of a typical pig.

Pigs will not stop making reference to how US is light-years ahead of Nigeria.

Tell them to behave like the Americans, they insult you down to your forefathers.

They will tell you US is a sane country, yet some of them who stepped foot in that US end up in jail for being more stupid than goats.

Now, the punishment for ballot snatching in US is death, but in Nigeria, pigs call it tyrany.

According to pigs, a ballot box snatcher is entitled to all expenses paid trip vacation anywhere in the universe.

STFU: Everbody is not logically challenged like you! Someone like you has never had his passport stamped by an immigration official of any jurisdiction.
US doesnt not have such law.
BTW, in the US, the president cannot remove US high court judges let alone a US Supreme Court Justice.
In the US, the president cannot spend $$ without Congress approval unlike in Naija where GMB spent $500m on the pursae of so-called military helicopters from US, without authorization.
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by TIGRITIS: 11:39am On Feb 21, 2019
BigIyanga:


STFU: Everbody is not logically challenged like you! Someone like you has never had his passport by an immigration official of any jurisdiction.
US doesnt not have such law.
BTW, in the US, the president cannot remove US high court judges let alone a US Supreme Court Justice.
In the US, the president cannot spend $$ without Congress approval unlike in Naija where GMB spent $500m on the pursae of so-called military helicopters from US, without authorization.
Ipob and senselessly illogical talk are one and same, yet they talk about logical challenge.
They will just sit down somewhere and give a "perfect description" of who they have no iota of knowledge of.
Now, since you are not logically challenged, your comments and assertion should be logically correct and you should as well be able to stand for your conviction without any form of ambiguity.
To this end, I say, if the highlighted is correct, may myself and all members of my immediate and extended family experience the worst calamity, but if it is incorrect, may same be upon you, your immediate and extended family. Amen

You should willingly respond to this prayer with a very loud "amen" if you don't have challenge with logic which should reflect in your assertion.
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by ashawopikin(m): 11:59am On Feb 21, 2019
nairavsdollars:
Temidayo Akinsuyi, Lagos

Prince Tony Momoh, a former Minister of Information on Wednesday said President Muhammadu Buhari’s directive to security agencies to deal ruthlessly with ballot box snatchers ahead of the 2019 general election is in order.

Speaking in a chat with Daily Independent, Momoh, one of the national leaders of the ruling All Progressives Congress (APC) said Nigerians do not expect the President to give national honours to those who committed crime by declaring war on due process and free, fair elections.

He said “What is snatching of ballot box? Snatching a box is a crime. It is declaration of war on due process and free, fair election. Anyone who declares war on due process is committing treason against due process.

“Those condemning Buhari, are they suggesting that anybody who snatches a box on Election Day should be given a national honour?

“I don’t know what Nigerians are talking about. In America, if you attempt to subvert due process, you can pay for it with your life.”
https://www.independent.ng/buhari-cant-give-national-awards-to-ballot-snatchers-tony-momoh/
see this fool, Americans don't use ballot box, the do electronic voting, u can even vote from the comfort of your home
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by BigIyanga: 2:14pm On Feb 21, 2019
TIGRITIS:

Ipob and senselessly illogical talk are one and same, yet they talk about logical challenge.
They will just sit down somewhere and give a "perfect description" of who they have no iota of knowledge of.
Now, since you are not logically challenged, your comments and assertion should be logically correct and you should as well be able to stand for your conviction without any form of ambiguity.
To this end, I say, if the highlighted is correct, may myself and all members of my immediate and extended family experience the worst calamity, but if it is incorrect, may same be upon you, your immediate and extended family. Amen

You should willingly respond to this prayer with a very loud "amen" if you don't have challenge with logic which should reflect in your assertion.
It’s above your encephalon grade to anaylytically separate facts from lies fed to zombies like u by ur slave masters. Requoting a political hack like the OP who worked for guys like IBB and Abacha, clearly shows that you’re congenitally incapable of separating facts from opionions bandied by political brigands.
Does ballot snatching exist in the US? How can you snatch electronic voting? Did US sentence Naija terrorist, Mutallab to death sentence?
Keep

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Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by TIGRITIS: 2:19pm On Feb 21, 2019
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BigIyanga:

It’s above your encephalon grade to anaylytically separate facts from lies fed to zombies like u by ur slave masters. Requoting a political hack like the OP who worked for guys like IBB and Abacha, clearly shows that you’re congenitally incapable of separating facts from opionions bandied by political brigands.
Does ballot snatching exist in the US? How can you snatch electronic voting? Did US sentence Naija terrorist, Mutallab to death sentence?
Keep
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Spare me of this nonsense garbage and own up to your "logic" by simply endorsing the content of what you just quoted except of course you are actually suffering from "logical challenges".

Less that, all what you type in my mention remains a heap of dogshits.
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by hisexcellency34: 5:11pm On Feb 21, 2019
What's rooted treasure?
Amudeneogu:
What of those who rooted treasure in America?
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by ebakhaiyhe(m): 7:21pm On Feb 21, 2019
nairavsdollars:
Temidayo Akinsuyi, Lagos

Prince Tony Momoh, a former Minister of Information on Wednesday said President Muhammadu Buhari’s directive to security agencies to deal ruthlessly with ballot box snatchers ahead of the 2019 general election is in order.

Speaking in a chat with Daily Independent, Momoh, one of the national leaders of the ruling All Progressives Congress (APC) said Nigerians do not expect the President to give national honours to those who committed crime by declaring war on due process and free, fair elections.

He said “What is snatching of ballot box? Snatching a box is a crime. It is declaration of war on due process and free, fair election. Anyone who declares war on due process is committing treason against due process.

“Those condemning Buhari, are they suggesting that anybody who snatches a box on Election Day should be given a national honour?

“I don’t know what Nigerians are talking about. In America, if you attempt to subvert due process, you can pay for it with your life.”
https://www.independent.ng/buhari-cant-give-national-awards-to-ballot-snatchers-tony-momoh/
Momoh, momoh, Is it extra juditial killing? You even failed to quote the relevant section. I don't believe APC anymore. You can only be their member when you have received the baptism of fabricating lies. My prayers is that one of your clothes relations you got nothing to do with ballot box snatching would be the first victim of trigger happy Nigerian police as a result of this order, but he would not die.
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by BigIyanga: 7:49pm On Feb 21, 2019
TIGRITIS:
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Spare me of this nonsense garbage and own up to your "logic" by simply endorsing the content of what you just quoted except of course you are actually suffering from "logical challenges".

Less that, all what you type in my mention remains a heap of dogshits.
Your brain needs a lot of oxygen to synthesize some facts.
In the US, presidential elections are strictly under state laws, controlled and supervised by secretary of state. Therefore election malpractice, which is very rare, is a state matter. And most states in the US, have proscribed death penalty in the penal code or have not used it for decades.
How could your brain/mouth piece, Momoh, make such a baseless claim when electoral laws in the US are individually and seperately enforced by states??
Before you argue with me, read up on: exclusive, concurrent, state and residual lists.
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by Nobody: 8:44pm On Feb 21, 2019
dingbang:
Ballot box in america?
Some States still vote by box and paper.
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by TIGRITIS: 8:47pm On Feb 21, 2019
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BigIyanga:

Your brain needs a lot of oxygen to synthesize some facts.
In the US, presidential elections are strictly under state laws, controlled and supervised by secretary of state. Therefore election malpractice, which is very rare, is a state matter. And most states in the US, have proscribed death penalty in the penal code or have not used it for decades.
How could your brain/mouth piece, Momoh, make such a baseless claim when electoral laws in the US are individually and seperately enforced by states??
Before you argue with me, read up on: exclusive, concurrent, state and residual lists.
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God knows I didn't read this piece of shyt. Endorse "your logic" and stop throwing crap into my mention.
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by hisexcellency34: 10:02pm On Feb 21, 2019
Absolutely true

KingOfThisnDat:
Some States still vote by box and paper.
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by princeade86(m): 10:33pm On Feb 21, 2019
hisexcellency34:
can't you read simple English?

who between me and u cant read simple english. just bring out where d man mentioned america.
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by BigIyanga: 11:06pm On Feb 21, 2019
TIGRITIS:
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God knows I didn't read this piece of shyt. Endorse "your logic" and stop throwing crap into my mention.
I knew you were not going to read it cos u will need another brain to interprete for you. Logic to you is what livestock is to GMB..
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by TIGRITIS: 5:50am On Feb 22, 2019
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BigIyanga:

I knew you were not going to read it cos u will need another brain to interprete for you. Logic to you is what livestock is to GMB..
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Keep your crappy logic to yourself and stop throwing poo into my mention.
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by jamejanev: 8:46am On Feb 22, 2019
MrPolitics:
American govt won’t kill anybody for anything like that. It’s a lie. The death penalty is strictly for extreme murder cases.
Even if anything like that would happen (which it won’t), it’ll be after a fair trial
Idiot, go and snatch the ballots box now and see. U people will just be talking. Someone come to polling booth with Guns and u expect the Govt greet him well done. Were u not alive when Wike and Ameachi were killing people in Rivers State in the name of Snatching ballot box. Anybody that snatch ballot box or cause any problem will die on the spot.
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by BigIyanga: 8:55am On Feb 22, 2019
TIGRITIS:
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Keep your crappy logic to yourself and stop throwing poo into my mention.
Cos logic is antithetical to your brain and existence. Give a zombified partisan headache by being factually and logically articulate.Pls go play somewhere cos we’re on a different logical/intellectual bandwidth.
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by TIGRITIS: 8:58am On Feb 22, 2019
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BigIyanga:

Cos logic is antithetical to your brain and existence. Give a zombified partisan headache by being factually and logically articulate.Pls go play somewhere cos we’re on a different logical/intellectual bandwidth.
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He said I should go play somewhere because of his high intellectual bandwidth but won't stop disturbing me with dogshits. grin
I repeat, keep your crappy "high level" logic to yourself, stop throwing garbage into my mention.
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by MrPolitics: 10:23am On Feb 22, 2019
jamejanev:

Idiot, go and snatch the ballots box now and see. U people will just be talking. Someone come to polling booth with Guns and u expect the Govt greet him well done. Were u not alive when Wike and Ameachi were killing people in Rivers State in the name of Snatching ballot box. Anybody that snatch ballot box or cause any problem will die on the spot.

It’s your people at home that are idiots. If you don’t know how to talk or argue reasonably then don’t quote me.
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by jamejanev: 10:30am On Feb 22, 2019
MrPolitics:


It’s your people at home that are idiots. If you don’t know how to talk or argue reasonably then don’t quote me.
We know your people as idiots. Sentimental people with narrow thinking After election, they will start crying that Buhari does not give them appointments. We will show u on Saturday.
Re: Punishment For Snatching Ballot Boxes In America Is Death - Tony Momoh by MrPolitics: 11:08am On Feb 22, 2019
jamejanev:

We know your people as idiots. Sentimental people with narrow thinking After election, they will start crying that Buhari does not give them appointments. We will show u on Saturday.

You’ve just shown how ignorant and tribalistic you are. So everybody against PMB is now Igbo?
You need serious help alainilakaaye

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