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America will NEVER vote a Socialist..He was the one that even destroyed Hilary's chances with his lazy supporters always looking for free things

A 77 year old as US President

Temple1288:
Never?

Forget about those celebrities and Twitter users (mostly kids)
If you want to know how popular Don is just go to any of his rallies.. Now let me tell you that there are Democrats who are gonna be voting for Trump again.

In Mississippi, Sen. Cindy would've lost if not for Trump's endorsement. In Florida, Desantis would've lost if not for Trump's endorsement. Everyone he campaigned for won.. The only way to make sure he doesn't win is make sure he doesn't run in 2020.
If not, he has a cult of followers.

He came out the right moment.

Have you heard of SILENT MAJORITY?

Bros cam dan , your failed attempt to revision the events of the mid term elections is pedestrian and at best, childish.
For starters, DeSantis won the initial count by only about 80K and had to have a recount.
@bolded, stop peddling fake news and factually incorrect stuff like Trump, no fewer than 15 candidates which Trump personally campaigned for lost the election. This includes Dean Heller of Nevada , Matt Rosedale of Montana (which Trump visited 4 fucking times), Cindy Hayed-Smith who won via a run-off and the incumbent John Lewis.
I am pro-Trump but whenever you wanna bring up trumped up facts, remember that some of your audience are smart and know wosup.
I holidayed in the States recently and the Trump love-in was palpable among white majorities though the hate could be felt among immigrants.
Have a nice day.

bilms:
Bernie Sanders, US president in waiting - Mr Rights

https://mrrightsng..com/2019/03/bernie-sanders-us-president-in-waiting.html?m=1

Most popular US senator, Bernie Sanders has announced is entrance into the 2020 US presidential race.

Two days ago, the runner up to Hilary Clinton in the race to 2016 democratic nomination launched is 2020 campaign at Brooklyn with over 1 million volunteers across the country.

People ordinarily wouldn’t vote for any unknown third party. This is the same all over the world. Voting for an unknown third party will be extremely hard, especially a third party, whose campaign they are not seeing on TV and Radio almost all the time.

But you can still break the jinx, says Bernie Sanders, a strong U.S presidential candidate in the 2016 general election, now the major candidate in the race for 2020.

Before venturing into politics, many thought it was impossible for a third party candidate to win election in U.S.

To a lot of people, only Democrats and Republican are destined to win, but Bernie disagreed. He believed that, if Democrats and Republican can do it, others can do it too.

In 1971, Bernie Sanders contested for U.S Senate election as an independent candidate and lost. He didn’t only lose that election; he
got just 2% of the total vote cast. But he said to himself, this isn’t bad. I will try again.

In 1972, he ran for Governor. This time, he didn’t only lose; his votes went down to 1% of the total vote cast. He was not discouraged still. He said to himself once again, this isn’t bad, I will try again.

In 1973, he ran again for Senate and lost. This time, he got 4% of the total vote cast. In 1975, he ran again for governor and still lost. He got 6% of the total vote cast.

In 4 years, he ran 4 times and lost in all 4 attempts. After the 4th attempt, he retired from politics for 5 years.

But in 1981, 5 years later, some people from his state came to him to run for city mayor. It’s more like a Local Government Chairman
Election in Nigeria. He was reluctant at first due to his 4 previous failures, especially after running for Governor and senate, but he oblige.

Bernie Sanders ran this time again for Mayor as an independent candidate and surprisingly, he won the election by just 14 votes. It was unbelievable; an independent candidate defeated the almighty Democrat and Republican Party.

But this was a democratic strong hold nobody thought an unknown candidate could win. So, while Bernie and his supporters were celebrating the victory, the Democrat runner up could not believe this unknown independent could win, he challenged the election result. He believed there must have been an error somewhere.

The votes had to be recounted and after the vote recount, Bernie still won, but
this time with less than 10 votes.

Although, he has won and scaled through the first hurdle, he has to work with the elected democrat city council official.

This means that, he can’t hire his own staff. As a matter of fact, the personal secretary
he hired was sacked by the city council officials. Those democrats didn’t allow him govern with his own ideas. This went on for about a year, until in 1982 when another city council election took place.

Bernie urged many new guys to run for City Council election and they did.

He campaigned for them and among these guys, 6 won. These 6 winners gave him the required veto power to get his ideas running.

After taking charge fully with his own like minded team, he embarked on several pro masses reforms and he got re-elected after 2 years in 1983. He ran again in 1985 and still won.

Faced with opportunity to move up in the political ladder, Bernie ran again for governor in 1986, but he lost the governorship election.
This time, he got 14% of the total vote cast.

2 years later in 1988, he ran for Congress seat and lost. He was the runner up with 31% vote, trailing the winner who got 34%. He was
determined to run again. He said to himself, if as an independent candidate, I can have 31% of the votes, definitely, I can get even more. So in 1988, he ran again for U.S Congress and this time, he won with a very wide margin. He got more than 50% of the total vote and ever
since, he has been running and winning.

Today, Bernie is the longest serving Congress man in the history of U.S.

In 2016, for the first time in history, he joined the Democratic Party to run for U.S presidential election.

He was rigged out by the establishment, but despite losing due to rigging, he has remained consistent with is nationwide advocacy for the issues affecting the ordinary people. Today, he his the most popular politician in U.S, even more popular than the President in terms of favourable rating.

After losing the Presidential election, he created a massive peoples organization called the Our Revolution, a nationwide organization that is forcing those in authority to listen to the people. Most of his ideas have gained nationwide acceptability and this is going to define the race for 2020.

The organisation, Our Revolution is articulating the issues and proffering solutions. Through his position at the Congress, Bernie is sponsoring bills to advance the
cause of the people and mobilizing them to hold their representative accountable to ensure those bills scale through.

Today, Bernie is 76years old, but he his running to win the US Presidency in 2020.

As i have consistently said in the past, if he runs again in 2020, he will become the next President of United States of America and now that he's running, he is like a president in waiting.

The point here is that, it doesn’t necessarily have to be one of the two major parties. Young people must be courageous enough to go under smaller parties.

A small party of yesterday may eventually become the big party and the unknown candidate of yesterday may become the most
popular candidate today.

It also doesn’t necessarily have to be about age. An old competent and dedicated person maybe more useful than a young thoughtless
person. Age is not a reason to throw competence and capacity to
deliver to the gutter.

Politics is the only realistic means to good
governance in a democracy. If you elect a fool to be your representative, you will be forced to live by the laws he make. If you elect a looter, you will live by the consequence of his looting.

And provided the wrong people remain in government, the status quo will always remain.

Nigerians really need to enlighten themselves a lot. I've listened to analysis on BBC and Aljazeera and it's very apparent Sanders stands a very bright chance of winning in 2020. He got millions of $ in donations under 24 hours of declaring his intention to run and supporters trooped out in millions to support him. You've got to see his ideals and manifestos

Temple1288:
Never?

Forget about those celebrities and Twitter users (mostly kids)
If you want to know how popular Don is just go to any of his rallies.. Now let me tell you that there are Democrats who are gonna be voting for Trump again.

In Mississippi, Sen. Cindy would've lost if not for Trump's endorsement. In Florida, Desantis would've lost if not for Trump's endorsement. Everyone he campaigned for won.. The only way to make sure he doesn't win is make sure he doesn't run in 2020.
If not, he has a cult of followers.

He came out the right moment.

Have you heard of SILENT MAJORITY?

Trump is popular? What is his popularity rating?...quote that and compare it with that of Obama or Bush at the same point. His well attended rallies are in select racist areas in the country. He belongs to New York.... and can't even be present in NY let alone hold a rally..... too much protest and traffic jams. Many of the people who voted for him did so because of his coded racist campaign. Racists will always support him regardless of what he does....many other supporters have been affected economically by his policies....money is everything to them...they will not vote for him. How many in his own party...whom he selected has jumped ship?...record number...and you are here talking about how popular he is. His trade war with China has affected his voters...be imposed tariffs on certain imports from China....China retaliated by imposing tariffs on products coming out of areas of his core supporters. They are now suffering. He is popular neither at home nor abroad. If you know how a US President is elected..... you should know that it is not by who get the most votes cast by the citizens..... called the popular votes.... Hillary won that. He is wayy more unpopular now than when he was elected.

Temple1288:
Never?

Forget about those celebrities and Twitter users (mostly kids)
If you want to know how popular Don is just go to any of his rallies.. Now let me tell you that there are Democrats who are gonna be voting for Trump again.

In Mississippi, Sen. Cindy would've lost if not for Trump's endorsement. In Florida, Desantis would've lost if not for Trump's endorsement. Everyone he campaigned for won.. The only way to make sure he doesn't win is make sure he doesn't run in 2020.
If not, he has a cult of followers.

He came out the right moment.

Have you heard of SILENT MAJORITY?

Wrong sir, not all he supported won! This same Bernie Sanders won senatorial election in the US state of Vermont in November and as an independent , winning over 70% of the votes cast and defeating Trump's candidate in the process

ThothHermes:
Crazy Bernie?

We'll see.

The problem with people like you is that, you render your brain useless. All you do is re-echo what someone else is saying, without ever thinking through it yourself.


Crazy Bernie!

Temple1288:
Never?

Forget about those celebrities and Twitter users (mostly kids)
If you want to know how popular Don is just go to any of his rallies.. Now let me tell you that there are Democrats who are gonna be voting for Trump again.

In Mississippi, Sen. Cindy would've lost if not for Trump's endorsement. In Florida, Desantis would've lost if not for Trump's endorsement. Everyone he campaigned for won.. The only way to make sure he doesn't win is make sure he doesn't run in 2020.
If not, he has a cult of followers.

He came out the right moment.

Have you heard of SILENT MAJORITY?

Hmmm

contigiency:
For those that criticise and rubbish everything done in this country, they can see that Nigerian problem is not about the age of Those running the affairs, but Their committment, sincerity of purpose, corruption etc.

Look at this man started contesting elections in America as far back as 1971 that's about 40 years ago. Today, he is running for the office of the American president. I will not even be surprised to see those who criticise the fact that buhari ruled Nigeria about the same time, and he is still ruling us this time, coming out to praise and eulogies this man. And that is what I call hypocrisy. But When you give them assigment, they riddle it with corruption and ineptitude.

That is the hypocrisy about most Nigerians. They praised a man as old as Buhari but rubbishes President Buhari not to contest. I don't believe all these age bullshiit as long you are ready to serve your people and you have a sound health. If Mathahir one of the founding fathers of Malaysian politics could contest for an election at age 90 years and won because of the love and his antecedent against corruption.
I wish Bernie Sander best of luck in his ambition to be the President of the USA.

Clean2016:
Check it very well.

He was rigged out by establishments. The US have their own problem so after doing election in Nigeria and both parties rigged yet you are writing US about a party that rigged. They look at you and laugh and say this idiots thought we care

2016 rigging.

It is a well known fact that anyone the establishment support for the presidency in the USA wins the presidential seat.

Basic123:
With what I just read here nigerian politics is not different from that of USA
1.oppositions in government frustrating the ruling party

2.you need a wide existing structure just like APC and PDP to win a national election

3.Rigging is everywhere.

Exactly! Rigging exist everywhere. I could remember in 2004 when Bush Jnr defeated John Kerry at the polls. It took the electoral body in USA like 3 days to declare the winner.
I watched how Russian politicians and businessmen jubilated when Trump won.
Politics everywhere is dirty.

Temple1288:
Never?

Forget about those celebrities and Twitter users (mostly kids)
If you want to know how popular Don is just go to any of his rallies.. Now let me tell you that there are Democrats who are gonna be voting for Trump again.

In Mississippi, Sen. Cindy would've lost if not for Trump's endorsement. In Florida, Desantis would've lost if not for Trump's endorsement. Everyone he campaigned for won.. The only way to make sure he doesn't win is make sure he doesn't run in 2020.
If not, he has a cult of followers.

He came out the right moment.

Have you heard of SILENT MAJORITY?

Isn't it how people were shouting that atiku would win but he lost (legitimately or not)

The truth is that no one knows tomorrow

bilms:
The problem with people like you is that, you render your brain useless. All you do is re-echo what someone else is saying, without ever thinking through it yourself.


Crazy Bernie!

When that person goes on to be POTUS I think he's then he becomes worth re-echoing don't you think?

I'm sure my brain us far useful than, since dissenting opinions irk you so much.

Person never win primary you dob crown am president. Weyrey.

I like Bernie Sanders but the only problem is his age, he is pushing 80

Bernie Sanders cannot win the DNC presidential primaries let alone winning the presidency.

Seems you are not getting it, right? The US WILL NEVER BECOME A SOCIALIST STATE.

He may keep scamming his band of thoughtless Millennials for the time being (until the Gen Z come to age). But he will never, ever smell the white house - not even in 2024 or 2028.

Joe Biden will trash him in the DNC primaries. And, running as in an independent, means he's clueless and just out to scam the gullible of of their tiny allowances from mommy again.

[s][/s]

bilms:
Bernie Sanders, US president in waiting - Mr Rights

https://mrrightsng..com/2019/03/bernie-sanders-us-president-in-waiting.html?m=1

Most popular US senator, Bernie Sanders has announced is entrance into the 2020 US presidential race.

Two days ago, the runner up to Hilary Clinton in the race to 2016 democratic nomination launched is 2020 campaign at Brooklyn with over 1 million volunteers across the country.

People ordinarily wouldn’t vote for any unknown third party. This is the same all over the world. Voting for an unknown third party will be extremely hard, especially a third party, whose campaign they are not seeing on TV and Radio almost all the time.

But you can still break the jinx, says Bernie Sanders, a strong U.S presidential candidate in the 2016 general election, now the major candidate in the race for 2020.

Before venturing into politics, many thought it was impossible for a third party candidate to win election in U.S.

To a lot of people, only Democrats and Republican are destined to win, but Bernie disagreed. He believed that, if Democrats and Republican can do it, others can do it too.

In 1971, Bernie Sanders contested for U.S Senate election as an independent candidate and lost. He didn’t only lose that election; he
got just 2% of the total vote cast. But he said to himself, this isn’t bad. I will try again.

In 1972, he ran for Governor. This time, he didn’t only lose; his votes went down to 1% of the total vote cast. He was not discouraged still. He said to himself once again, this isn’t bad, I will try again.

In 1973, he ran again for Senate and lost. This time, he got 4% of the total vote cast. In 1975, he ran again for governor and still lost. He got 6% of the total vote cast.

In 4 years, he ran 4 times and lost in all 4 attempts. After the 4th attempt, he retired from politics for 5 years.

But in 1981, 5 years later, some people from his state came to him to run for city mayor. It’s more like a Local Government Chairman
Election in Nigeria. He was reluctant at first due to his 4 previous failures, especially after running for Governor and senate, but he oblige.

Bernie Sanders ran this time again for Mayor as an independent candidate and surprisingly, he won the election by just 14 votes. It was unbelievable; an independent candidate defeated the almighty Democrat and Republican Party.

But this was a democratic strong hold nobody thought an unknown candidate could win. So, while Bernie and his supporters were celebrating the victory, the Democrat runner up could not believe this unknown independent could win, he challenged the election result. He believed there must have been an error somewhere.

The votes had to be recounted and after the vote recount, Bernie still won, but
this time with less than 10 votes.

Although, he has won and scaled through the first hurdle, he has to work with the elected democrat city council official.

This means that, he can’t hire his own staff. As a matter of fact, the personal secretary
he hired was sacked by the city council officials. Those democrats didn’t allow him govern with his own ideas. This went on for about a year, until in 1982 when another city council election took place.

Bernie urged many new guys to run for City Council election and they did.

He campaigned for them and among these guys, 6 won. These 6 winners gave him the required veto power to get his ideas running.

After taking charge fully with his own like minded team, he embarked on several pro masses reforms and he got re-elected after 2 years in 1983. He ran again in 1985 and still won.

Faced with opportunity to move up in the political ladder, Bernie ran again for governor in 1986, but he lost the governorship election.
This time, he got 14% of the total vote cast.

2 years later in 1988, he ran for Congress seat and lost. He was the runner up with 31% vote, trailing the winner who got 34%. He was
determined to run again. He said to himself, if as an independent candidate, I can have 31% of the votes, definitely, I can get even more. So in 1988, he ran again for U.S Congress and this time, he won with a very wide margin. He got more than 50% of the total vote and ever
since, he has been running and winning.

Today, Bernie is the longest serving Congress man in the history of U.S.

In 2016, for the first time in history, he joined the Democratic Party to run for U.S presidential election.

He was rigged out by the establishment, but despite losing due to rigging, he has remained consistent with is nationwide advocacy for the issues affecting the ordinary people. Today, he his the most popular politician in U.S, even more popular than the President in terms of favourable rating.

After losing the Presidential election, he created a massive peoples organization called the Our Revolution, a nationwide organization that is forcing those in authority to listen to the people. Most of his ideas have gained nationwide acceptability and this is going to define the race for 2020.

The organisation, Our Revolution is articulating the issues and proffering solutions. Through his position at the Congress, Bernie is sponsoring bills to advance the
cause of the people and mobilizing them to hold their representative accountable to ensure those bills scale through.

Today, Bernie is 76years old, but he his running to win the US Presidency in 2020.

As i have consistently said in the past, if he runs again in 2020, he will become the next President of United States of America and now that he's running, he is like a president in waiting.

The point here is that, it doesn’t necessarily have to be one of the two major parties. Young people must be courageous enough to go under smaller parties.

A small party of yesterday may eventually become the big party and the unknown candidate of yesterday may become the most
popular candidate today.

It also doesn’t necessarily have to be about age. An old competent and dedicated person maybe more useful than a young thoughtless
person. Age is not a reason to throw competence and capacity to
deliver to the gutter.

Politics is the only realistic means to good
governance in a democracy. If you elect a fool to be your representative, you will be forced to live by the laws he make. If you elect a looter, you will live by the consequence of his looting.

And provided the wrong people remain in government, the status quo will always remain.

He won’t even win the DNC primaries, Bernie has a lorn against him in the DNC, the upper echelon in the DNC dislike him, and at the time where the DNC is focusing it’s attention on women, yes women, they are trying to buy the women votes and the black people vote just like they always do, Bernie has been in legislation for over 20+yrs but can’t point to one legislation he has sponsored, if you think it’s a lie, check his interview with Charmalagne tha God. Also he has same problem with Buhari, he forgets this to the point of no recollection, he’s bringing a socialist idea that like the other DNC candidates which 18% of the population agree with, Bernie’s time was in 2016 but he was rigged out of the primaries by Hillary and Maxine Walters, the old man should just retire gently because it’s gonna be hard for any DNC candidate to defeat the GOP Donald trump judging by his achievement in two and half years despite all the smears of the media and Collusion delusion.

Right wing.

Despite the nonstop 3-year long coordinated attacks and witch hunting driven by the global Fake News/mainstream media, the US establishment and the DNC against the person of Trump, his rigged rating presently is actually higher than what Obama had at this same point in his presidency.

In fact, among the conservatives Trump's approval rating is over 80%. And, according to the liberal leaning CNBC, Trump's (42% - 48%) rating across board, "is in line with that of Clinton, Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama at similar points in their presidencies. And ALL OF THOSE PRESIDENTS WERE REELECTED".

Originalsly:
Trump is popular? What is his popularity rating?...quote that and compare it with that of Obama or Bush at the same point. His well attended rallies are in select racist areas in the country. He belongs to New York.... and can't even be present in NY let alone hold a rally..... too much protest and traffic jams. Many of the people who voted for him did so because of his coded racist campaign. Racists will always support him regardless of what he does....many other supporters have been affected economically by his policies....money is everything to them...they will not vote for him. How many in his own party...whom he selected has jumped ship?...record number...and you are here talking about how popular he is. His trade war with China has affected his voters...be imposed tariffs on certain imports from China....China retaliated by imposing tariffs on products coming out of areas of his core supporters. They are now suffering. He is popular neither at home nor abroad. If you know how a US President is elected..... you should know that it is not by who get the most votes cast by the citizens..... called the popular votes.... Hillary won that. He is wayy more unpopular now than when he was elected.

US election is sweet
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sonnie10:
I will vote Joe Biden if he decides to run.

Unfortunately your vote doesn’t count

rentAcock:
Asking the ultra wealthy to pay their fair share of taxes and persuading the biggest corporations in the world to pay their employees a living wage so they won't depend on government welfare isn't socialism or communism, it is the right thing to do.

What is your idea of fair share?

the rich already pay the highest percentage of taxes as well as corporations. So what are you on about


Bernie Sanders is a hard core socialist. Don't even debate that

Hi Bernie... Wait till 2024.
Now is not the best time for you. Trump should finish two terms. By then he would have dealt with mandarin currency manipulator.

Originalsly:
Trump is popular? What is his popularity rating?...quote that and compare it with that of Obama or Bush at the same point. His well attended rallies are in select racist areas in the country. He belongs to New York.... and can't even be present in NY let alone hold a rally..... too much protest and traffic jams. Many of the people who voted for him did so because of his coded racist campaign. Racists will always support him regardless of what he does....many other supporters have been affected economically by his policies....money is everything to them...they will not vote for him. How many in his own party...whom he selected has jumped ship?...record number...and you are here talking about how popular he is. His trade war with China has affected his voters...be imposed tariffs on certain imports from China....China retaliated by imposing tariffs on products coming out of areas of his core supporters. They are now suffering. He is popular neither at home nor abroad. If you know how a US President is elected..... you should know that it is not by who get the most votes cast by the citizens..... called the popular votes.... Hillary won that. He is wayy more unpopular now than when he was elected.

Say what you want about trump, but 2 things I will always disagree with are

1. He's racist, how? Prior to Running for president, in the 90's and early 2000. he was loved by most of the black leaders Jessie Jackson and Al shapton

Can you give me an example where he is a racist??

I mean personal examples, not his supporters yadda yadda yadda

He was only labelled a racist when he became a prominent figure in the Republican Party


2. Trade war was a master stroke, for the first time china is coming on bended knee to negotiate. Trump is a ruthless business man. You have to give it to him. Have you seen the economic growth and unemployment numbers??


For you point on Hilary winning highest number of votes America is a constitution federal republic

meaning each state is autonomous.

so the electoral college model was adopted as the determinant for their Presidential election. Each state according to the number of population is ascribed a number of votes in the electoral college. the higher the population the higher the number of votes.

Who ever wins the simple majority in each state carries the electoral votes.

this was done so that every part of the country would be involved in deciding the outcome of the president.

If the highest votes approach was used New York and California(because of their high population) would be deciding the outcome of the president

I hope that's clear, he lost the popular vote because of the hold the democratic party has in urban areas. He won most parts of the country

So your argument is invalid

rentAcock:
Asking the ultra wealthy to pay their fair share of taxes and persuading the biggest corporations in the world to pay their employees a living wage so they won't depend on government welfare isn't socialism or communism, it is the right thing to do.

What does this comment even mean. Rich people are taxed very heavily in the United States but Bernie would rather tax them more in a bid to redistribute wealth. WTF.
Being rich is not a crime. It is not right for someone to struggle to make their money and then have to give a huge chuck of it to entitled "poor" people.
The main supporters of this man are young people who he has managed to seduce with the idea of free this and that. Sensible people know that his policies are wack.

Atigba:
He doesn't stand any chance, he is a socialist grandpa that has no clue. He believed everything should be free, of cause some lazy stupi.d people will vote for him, especially the youth.

America is the most prosperous country in the world and the most successful nation in human history. Capitalism made them so not socialism and communism.

Most of all, he won't get a vote from the evangelicals, he an atheist and a self hated Jews as well.

American capitalism is hurting it badly....
Moving factories to China, refusal to retrain workers, outsourcing jobs overseas, replacing American workers with foreigners, Employers keeping wages low and stagnant for years are the result of the brutal capitalism practiced in that country....
And the result has been disastrous.....


Wages are not rising as compared to inflation leading to a lot of people dropping from middle class to working class.....

University education is very expensive thus most youths choose to skip college to avoid future bankruptcy....
Unfortunately, there are not so many good jobs available in USA now that won't require a college degree....

Public spending in infrastructure is at all time low due to tax cuts to the wealthy and a dwindling middle class....
Most 1st class US cities can't even compare to 3rd class Chinese cities due to crumbling physical infrastructure....

Building a career as a staff in Wal-Mart or McDonald's is an invitation to lifetime struggle or possible poverty.....
U will forever be dependent on food banks n social welfare to get by.....

American public education system is performing poorly when compared to other OECD due to poor funding....

Healthcare is good but very expensive, 30 percent of Americans are not insured n will rather go to Mexico or Brazil to meet their health needs...
Despite the cost, American health indices rank poorly when compared to other OECD countries.....

The system now in USA is designed in such a way that if u are wealthy, u can never become poor and if u poor, it's going to be extremely difficult to be rich.....

America is producing more millionaires n billionaires than any country, yet the gap between the rich and poor is getting wider....
90 percent of working class Americans now live pay check to pay check....
The American dream is gone......
American capitalism sucks and that's what Bernie wants to challenge....

As far as am concerned, the root cause of the myriad of problems facing America lies in its capitalist system, and that's what should be addressed....
Not building walls or imposing tarrifs....

Gmajor:
What does this comment even mean. Rich people are taxed very heavily in the United States but Bernie would rather tax them more in a bid to redistribute wealth. WTF.
Being rich is not a crime. It is not right for someone to struggle to make their money and then have to give a huge chuck of it to entitled "poor" people.
The main supporters of this man are young people who he has managed to seduce with the idea of free this and that. Sensible people know that his policies are wack.

it think those notion that the rich must have somehow cheated there way to the top is the problem

like that crazy Newyork Congress woman suggested taxing the 1% at 70%

That's just bat shut crazy.


The rich already pay the top marginal income tax.

if we are talking about really being fair

They should tax everybody the same

let's see how all those people feel about pay 45% income taxes.

People would talk rubbish as long as it doesn't affect them

like I asked the guy, what's his idea on fair share means

I'm still waiting

Gmajor:
What does this comment even mean. Rich people are taxed very heavily in the United States but Bernie would rather tax them more in a bid to redistribute wealth. WTF.
Being rich is not a crime. It is not right for someone to struggle to make their money and then have to give a huge chuck of it to entitled "poor" people.
The main supporters of this man are young people who he has managed to seduce with the idea of free this and that. Sensible people know that his policies are wack.

EOD!

The old dude is a communist hiding in a socialist cloak while benefitting from capitalism. His other paddy is Jeremy Corbyn - who will never become prime minister because of his economic policies. China will overtake The US as a major economic player, electing Bernie hastens the process.

mrbock:
it think those notion that the rich must have somehow cheated there way to the top is the problem

like that crazy Newyork Congress woman suggested taxing the 1% at 70%

That's just bat shut crazy.


The rich already pay the top marginal income tax.

if we are talking about really being fair

They should tax everybody the same

let's see how all those people feel about pay 45% income taxes.

People would talk rubbish as long as it doesn't affect them

like I asked the guy, what's his idea on fair share means

I'm still waiting

Wahlai! Rich people will simply relocate their funds from the the US to havens or relocate entirely. It happened in France. Folks who believe that it's wrong to be rich.

SIRTee15:
American capitalism is hurting it badly....
Moving factories to China, refusal to retrain workers, outsourcing jobs overseas, replacing American workers with foreigners, Employers keeping wages low and stagnant for years are the result of the brutal capitalism practiced in that country....
And the result has been disastrous.....


Wages are not rising as compared to inflation leading to a lot of people dropping from middle class to working class.....

University education is very expensive thus most youths choose to skip college to avoid future bankruptcy....
Unfortunately, there are not so many good jobs available in USA now that won't require a college degree....

Public spending in infrastructure is at all time low due to tax cuts to the wealthy and a dwindling middle class....
Most 1st class US cities can't even compare to 3rd class Chinese cities due to crumbling physical infrastructure....

Building a career as a staff in Wal-Mart or McDonald's is an invitation to lifetime struggle or possible poverty.....
U will forever be dependent on food banks n social welfare to get by.....

American public education system is performing poorly when compared to other OECD due to poor funding....

Healthcare is good but very expensive, 30 percent of Americans are not insured n will rather go to Mexico or Brazil to meet their health needs...
Despite the cost, American health indices rank poorly when compared to other OECD countries.....

The system now in USA is designed in such a way that if u are wealthy, u can never become poor and if u poor, it's going to be extremely difficult to be rich.....

America is producing more millionaires n billionaires than any country, yet the gap between the rich and poor is getting wider....
90 percent of working class Americans now live pay check to pay check....
The American dream is gone......
American capitalism sucks and that's what Bernie wants to challenge....

As far as am concerned, the root cause of the myriad of problems facing America lies in the capitalist system they practicing, and that's what should be addressed....
Not building walls or imposing tarrifs....

most of what you wrote is completely false or heavily skewed

I won't even go into them in detail.

Capitalism is bad, so Bernie Sanders form of socialism is the answer

Venezuela, Cuba and Brazil hasn't been enough examples that socialism is a failed idea


The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of people's money to spend.

Gerrard59:
EOD!

The old dude is a communist hiding in a socialist cloak while benefitting from capitalism. His other paddy is Jeremy Corbyn - who will never become prime minister because of his economic policies. China will overtake The US as a major economic player, electing Bernie hastens the process.



Wahlai! Rich people will simply relocate their funds from the the US to havens or relocate entirely. It happened in France. Folks who believe that it's wrong to be rich.

that's what they are missing. Very funny ideology.

It's wen they use the term fair share. it pisses me off

With the currently tax system being daylight robbery

Some people have the audacity to shouting that they are not doing enough

Even God our father in his wisdom pegged the same percentage of tithe for all, Poor Man and rich man.

Now that's fair

So if they want it to be 70% , it should be the same across board

mrbock:
most of what you wrote is completely false or heavily skewed

I won't even go into them in detail.

Capitalism is bad, so Bernie Sanders form of socialism is the answer

Venezuela, Cuba and Brazil hasn't been enough examples that socialism is a failed idea


The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of people's money to spend.

Maybe u can challenge just one of my point...just one....
Unregulated capitalism is killing America....
Corporate greed and selfish capitalism will eventually lead to to the downfall of that country....
China that u people love to praise as the next superpower practice strictly controlled capitalism with a mixed of socialism.....
U can't move money out of that country at will.....
They've refuse to open up their banking and financial sector, because they know the havoc greedy corporate guyz can wreck on a fragile but rising economy.....
Chinese university education is free, thus China is able to conveniently churn out millions of vibriant educated workforce every year....
Something America can't boast of.....in fact 40 percent of students in American colleges are foreigners....

Extreme of everything is bad...both socialism and capitalism...

SIRTee15:
Maybe u can challenge just one of my point...just one....
Unregulated capitalism is killing America....
Corporate greed and selfish capitalism will eventually lead to to the downfall of that country....
China that u people love to praise as the next superpower practice strictly controlled capitalism with a mixed of socialism.....
U can't move money out of that country at will.....
They've refuse to open up their banking and financial sector, because they know the havoc greedy corporate guyz can wreck on a fragile but rising economy.....
Chinese university education is free, thus China is able to conveniently churn out millions of vibriant educated workforce every year....
Something America can't boast of.....in fact 40 percent of students in American colleges are foreigners....

Extreme of everything is bad...both socialism and capitalism...

I initiated didn't want to but you asked for it

China operates a mixed economy : very limited capitalism and command economics(govt controlled means of production and distribution)

China fuelled their remarkable year on year growth by unprecedented government spending with GDP growth of 6.5-8 percent year on year

disadvantage
Government spending created a total debt-to-GDP ratio of 260 percent. This includes debt held by the government, corporations, and consumers. Since the state owns many corporations, it must be included. The consumer debt may have also created an asset bubble .

Urban housing prices have skyrocketed as low-interest rates fueled speculation. High growth levels have come at the cost of consumer safety. The public has protested
pollution , food safety, and inflation .

It also created a class of ultra-rich professionals who want more individual liberties. They live in urban areas, since that's where most of the jobs are. In 2017, almost 60 percent of the population lived in urban areas. In the 1980s, it was just 20 percent.
Local governments are charged with providing social services but aren't allowed to tax to fund them. As a result, families are forced to save. China doesn't offer benefits to people who've moved from the farms to the cities to work. Interest rates have been low, so families don't receive much return on their savings.

As a result, they don't spend much. That keeps domestic demand low and slows growth.

mrbock:
I initiated didn't want to but you asked for it

China operates a mixed economy : very limited capitalism and command economics(govt controlled means of production and distribution)

China fuelled their remarkable year on year growth by unprecedented government spending with GDP growth of 6.5-8 percent year on year

disadvantage
Government spending created a total debt-to-GDP ratio of 260 percent. This includes debt held by the government, corporations, and consumers. Since the state owns many corporations, it must be included. The consumer debt may have also created an asset bubble .

Urban housing prices have skyrocketed as low-interest rates fueled speculation. High growth levels have come at the cost of consumer safety. The public has protested
pollution , food safety, and inflation .

It also created a class of ultra-rich professionals who want more individual liberties. They live in urban areas, since that's where most of the jobs are. In 2017, almost 60 percent of the population lived in urban areas. In the 1980s, it was just 20 percent.
Local governments are charged with providing social services but aren't allowed to tax to fund them. As a result, families are forced to save. China doesn't offer benefits to people who've moved from the farms to the cities to work. Interest rates have been low, so families don't receive much return on their savings.

As a result, they don't spend much. That keeps domestic demand low and slows growth.

Every system has it's pros and con.....

But the question remain...Is China economic system working for the nation...BIG YES....
Is the present USA economic system of WINNER TAKES IT ALL working for the nation and it's people...BIG NO...

China is deliberately suppressing domestic income because they want to milk as much money out of the western economy as long as possible via export....
When western nation finally goes broke, China will turn to domestic consumer spending to stimulate growth.....
The stupid western countries especially USA is too blind to see the problem....
Rather immigrants from 3rd world nation is the cause of their economic woes....