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Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by bilms(m): 1:14pm On Mar 05, 2019
Lagos before Nigeria
By Abdulrazaq O Hamzat
https://mrrightsng..com/2019/03/lagos-before-nigeria-by-abdulrazaq-o.html?m=1

More than 50 years before the creation of Nigeria as a united entity, Lagos is already a major centre of modern civilisation.

Lagos history is rich in Yoruba tradition, trade and commerce, infrastructural development and cosmopolitanism." -EXTRACTED

In the past few days, i have followed the unhealthy debate between easterners in Lagos and their host and i must say that such is really uncalled for.

No tribe or race is an island of knowledge and civilisation. At one time or the other, each one of them contributed in one way or the other.

While it is proper for every one to feel good about themselves and try as much as possible to amplify in a good way, their importance and contribution to the society they live in, it is also very crucial to take into account, the reality of other factors without attempting to ridicule the contribution of others.

I therefore advise all those joining the discuss to thread with caution and avoid things that are capable of setting our people apart rather than bringing them together.

Let it clear that every resident of Lagos and every part of Nigeria deserves to be accorded due regard in the place they live. They deserve the respect accorded to them by the laws of the land and we should never interfere when they exercise their rights, because only in an atmosphere of peace and respect will friendship strive.

Having stated the above, let's put some facts to the ground

1. Historically, before the amalgamation of Nigeria in 1914, communication technology which is a major signifier of civilization in the world had been existing in Lagos for almost 75years. By 1856, Cable and Wireless Company of the UK had commissioned a submarine cable link between Lagos and London and in 1851 a post office was established in Lagos.

2. In August 1896, Charles Joseph George and G.W. Neville, both merchants and both unofficial members of the Legislative Council, presented a petition urging construction of the railway terminus on Lagos Island rather than at Ido, and also asking for the railway to be extended to Abeokuta.

3. While Lagos was already in the communication discussion since as far back as 1851, Calabar which was the first in the eastern axis to get connected had it's telephone in 1923. That's more than 70years after Lagos has had it's telecommunication on and between 1946 and 1952, a three-channel line carrier system was commissioned between Lagos and Ibadan and was later extended to Osogbo, Kaduna, Kano, Benin, and Enugu.

4. The first Yoruba lawyer Christopher Alexander Sapara Williams was called to the English Bar in 1879 whilst the first Igbo lawyer, Sir Louis Mbanefo, was called to the English bar in 1937. In other words, the Yoruba are already producing lawyers for about 40 years before the amalgamation of Nigeria, while the east only had it's first lawyer about 20 years after the creation of Nigeria as a united entity.

5. Again, the first Yoruba medical practitioner, Dr. Nathaniel King, graduated in 1875 from the University of Edinburgh, 55 years earlier before the first Igbo medical practitioner, Dr. Akannu Ibiam, graduated from another Scottish University in 1935. This also means that, Yoruba had produced a medical doctor 40 years before the amalgamation of Nigeria, while the east only had it's first medical doctor about 20 years after amalgamation.

6. Many are aware that Nigeria had the first television station in Africa. But unknown to many, Nigeria actually had a television station before European giant France ever had it and long before many European countries ever dreamt of it courtesy of Awolowo.

So, In all honesty, it is crass ignorance to claim that Lagos was built with Nigeria's money or developed by people from the east.

While it maybe true that being a federal capital might have assisted it's development in one way or the other, certainly Lagos development predates the creation of Nigeria. Let me also add that, majority of people who went to Lagos from the east and other parts of the country did so because they knew Lagos had and still has development never seen before in their own places.

7. The first storey building in Nigeria was built in Marina, Badagry in 1845. This was 70years before the creation of Nigeria. This was a time when such building couldn't have been imagined anywhere else in the country.

8. The first Igbo alphabet-character set and Igbo primer (Isoama-Ibo) was published by Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther (a Yoruba man from Osogun) in 1857. Nobody knew how he came to do this. But this shows some level of advancement prior to the amalgamation of Nigeria. It also shows that before colonialist amalgamated us,we are already working together.

The above is to set the record straight and inform those ascribing development in a particular place to certain people.

We can all do better

https://mrrightsng..com/2019/03/lagos-before-nigeria-by-abdulrazaq-o.html?m=1

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by mekaboy(m): 1:31pm On Mar 05, 2019
I still don't understand how it was Niger delta oil that made the Yoruba billionaires and not Lagos.

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by luvmijeje(f): 1:41pm On Mar 05, 2019
mekaboy:
I still don't understand how it was Niger delta oil that made the Yoruba billionaires and not Lagos.

Didn't it make Igbos billionaires? Na person own na go deh see.

Abeg, you all should stop making me tribalist like una.

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by meccuno: 1:45pm On Mar 05, 2019
Another senseless thread. i thought the writer was out to make peace but instead started measuring dicks again. the first points goes to show that what people have been saying is true. even though we all know that the Yorubas own Lagos no dispute, it was not developed by them. it was done using Niger delta money and the British coming to that area. i respect the Yoruba, but in the south, the SW and Lagos in particular had the presence of the white man for a longer period on their land. if lets say calabar with the vast amount sea water close to their shores ,had the same interaction with these white men they would have been the people who had educated people first so its not really a big deal. after all the writer acknowledged that there were equally easterners in those fields no mater how long it took for them to get those degrees.

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by Asshurbanipal: 1:50pm On Mar 05, 2019
Yes Lagos was progressing under the British not yorubas. Other nigerians migrated to britsh lagos colony before yoruba. There was no yoruba kingdom or civilization in lagos before British invasion

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by mercyville: 1:55pm On Mar 05, 2019
meccuno:
Another senseless thread. i thought the writer was out to make peace but instead started measuring dicks again. the first points goes to show that what people have been saying is true. even though we all know that the Yorubas own Lagos no dispute, it was not developed by them. it was done using Niger delta money and the British coming to that area. i respect the Yoruba, but in the south, the SW and Lagos in particular had the presence of the white man for a longer period on their land. if lets say calabar with the vast amount sea water close to their shores ,had the same interaction with these white men they would have been the people who had educated people first so its not really a big deal. after all the writer acknowledged that there were equally easterners in those fields no mater how long it took for them to get those degrees.


Yorubas do not like measuring dicks with Igbos but my Igbo brethren will not let Yoruba be.This had made quite a chunk of us know that you are Igbo and I am Yoruba and vice versa.
Well,as for me,I am enjoying the show and it had made me know a lot about the great Yoruba race and how we tower above the Igbos,now and then. They should continue.I love the show but Yorubas are no savages but warriors and slow to anger but tested,trusted and guaranteed. wink
wink grin

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by Asshurbanipal: 2:02pm On Mar 05, 2019
mercyville:



Yorubas do not like measuring dicks with Igbos but my Igbo brethren will not let Yoruba be.This had made quite a chunk of us know that you are Igbo and I am Yorubaland and vice versa.
Well,as for me,I am enjoying the show and it had made me know a lot about the great Yoruba race and how we tower above the Igbos,now and then. They should continue.I love the show but Yorubas are no savages but warriors and slow to anger but tested,trusted and guaranteed. wink
wink grin
Warrior that lost illorin to the caliphates? Yoruba must know that I get am before no be property. As at today, yorubaland is in ruins while igboland is being rapidly built up

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by Ozibe: 2:04pm On Mar 05, 2019
Am coming
Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by orisa37: 2:31pm On Mar 05, 2019
Asshurbanipal:

Warrior that lost illorin to the caliphates? Yoruba must know that I get am before no be property. As at today, yorubaland is in ruins while igboland is being rapidly built up
.


Afonja was jinxed. Can't you see Buhari doing Voodoo on Saraki?

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by bilms(m): 2:32pm On Mar 05, 2019
Hum
Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by meccuno: 2:33pm On Mar 05, 2019
mercyville:



Yorubas do not like measuring dicks with Igbos but my Igbo brethren will not let Yoruba be.This had made quite a chunk of us know that you are Igbo and I am Yorubaland and vice versa.
Well,as for me,I am enjoying the show and it had made me know a lot about the great Yoruba race and how we tower above the Igbos,now and then. They should continue.I love the show but Yorubas are no savages but warriors and slow to anger but tested,trusted and guaranteed. wink
wink grin
The truth is whatever you think the Yorubas are is just an achievement to boost your ego nothing more. apart from all that has been achieved by Awolowo, what has your famed education brought to Yoruba land? instead there has been a decline in geometric proportion. now you have drug lords as leaders and area boys as mentors. i wonder what Awo would think of your generation. whatever you think you have the Igbos have. and in some cases better. the difference is the set back of the civil war thats all. having in the past is no achievement. i am sure you even had more educated men than the isreali but with your education how many Nobel Laurette do you have? just one and you are making it look like as if its the Yorubas that started nuclear fission. please let it go .

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by mercyville: 3:14pm On Mar 05, 2019
Asshurbanipal:

Warrior that lost illorin to the caliphates? Yoruba must know that I get am before no be property. As at today, yorubaland is in ruins while igboland is being rapidly built up

Ibadan city only is more developed than all your 5 south eastern states joined together.
Do you have these in your tiny and undeveloped Igboland?

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by Gabriel004: 3:18pm On Mar 05, 2019
luvmijeje:


Didn't it make Igbos billionaires? Na person own na go deh see.

Abeg, you all should stop making me tribalist like una.
Leave that small boy jor
Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by Gabriel004: 3:19pm On Mar 05, 2019
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Asshurbanipal:
Yes Lagos was progressing under the British not yorubas. Other nigerians migrated to britsh lagos colony before yoruba. There was no yoruba kingdom or civilization in lagos before British invasion
[/s]Dustbin post.
Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by Gabriel004: 3:24pm On Mar 05, 2019
Asshurbanipal:

Warrior that lost illorin to the caliphates? Yoruba must know that I get am before no be property. As at today, yorubaland is in ruins while igboland is being rapidly built up
grin Eyahh, but your sister did not agree with you na

Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by Gabriel004: 3:26pm On Mar 05, 2019
mercyville:


Ibadan city only is more developed than all your 5 south eastern states joined together.
Do you have these in your tiny and undeveloped Igboland?
cheesy
Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by Gabriel004: 3:31pm On Mar 05, 2019
meccuno:
The truth is whatever you think the Yorubas are is just an achievement to boost your ego nothing more. apart from all that has been achieved by Awolowo, what has your famed education brought to Yoruba land? instead there has been a decline in geometric proportion. now you have drug lords as leaders and area boys as mentors. i wonder what Awo would think of your generation. whatever you think you have the Igbos have. and in some cases better. the difference is the set back of the civil war thats all. having in the past is no achievement. i am sure you even had more educated men than the isreali but with your education how many Nobel Laurette do you have? just one and you are making it look like as if its the Yorubas that started nuclear fission. please let it go .
Yes, they have one. Oya mention any Nobel laureate that igbo have. Well, falz already finished it. Person wey no get work dey ask if my watch is original.
Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by Asshurbanipal: 3:33pm On Mar 05, 2019
mercyville:


Ibadan city only is more developed than all your 5 south eastern states joined together.
Do you have these in your tiny and undeveloped Igboland?
Travel una no go travel. That dilapidated slum called ibadan should be demolished

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by Asshurbanipal: 3:37pm On Mar 05, 2019
Gabriel004:
Yes, they have one. Oya mention any Nobel laureate that igbo have. Well, falz already finished it. Person wey no get work dey ask if my watch is original.
Things fall apart sold more and is tranlated to more languages than all wole soyinka works put together. Its just like kanu nwankwo and okocha. Everybody knows that okocha is far better but kanu won CAF player of the year. Wining an award is never a yardstick to measure anything

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by somalianprince: 3:42pm On Mar 05, 2019
what is this one yapping? Onitsha is a large metropolis. What you have in that picture is Onitsha North and South. Onitsha has covered Ogbaru, Nkpor, Ogidi, Obosi, Oba, Nkwerre, Ogbunike etc, it is the single largest metropolis in this region and it by far more developed and decent than Ibadan. Awka on the other hand covers 6 LGAs, what you are showing there is just Awka North and South. Enugu is equally very large, so also other cities in the SE. Yorubas should leave Lagos and go home to their respective states and develop it decently.

mercyville:


Ibadan city only is more developed than all your 5 south eastern states joined together.
Do you have these in your tiny and undeveloped Igboland?

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by mercyville: 3:51pm On Mar 05, 2019
somalianprince:
what is this one yapping? Onitsha is a large metropolis. What you have in that picture is Onitsha North and South. Onitsha has covered Ogbaru, Nkpor, Ogidi, Obosi, Oba, Nkwerre, Ogbunike etc, it is the single largest metropolis in this region and it by far more developed and decent that Ibadan. Awka on the other hand covers 6 LGAs, what you are showing there is just Awka North and South. Enugu is equally large, so also other cities in the SE. Yorubas should leave Lagos and go home to their respective states and develop it decently.

Igboland is tiny and undeveloped with scanty buildings.
Only Ibadan is more developed than all your 5 south eastern states.
Do you have these in all Igboland?

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by Gabriel004: 3:54pm On Mar 05, 2019
Asshurbanipal:

Travel una no go travel. That dilapidated slum called ibadan should be demolished
Posting old pictures of Ibadan to suit yourself. So if he won travel, he no see Dubai, America or Europe. Na igboland he go come think of. Lol Show us these places.

Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by somalianprince: 3:58pm On Mar 05, 2019
This is the aerial view of capital of yoruba land-. IBADAN.

It is clear why every yoruba man or woman is ashamed of their states and always claim to be an indigenes of Lagos. Yorubas should go and demolish their states and develop it decently like SE.


mercyville:

Igboland is tiny and undeveloped with scanty buildings.
Only Ibadan is more developed than all your 5 south eastern states.
Do you have these in all Igboland?

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by Gabriel004: 4:02pm On Mar 05, 2019
Asshurbanipal:

Things fall apart sold more and is tranlated to more languages than all wole soyinka works put together. Its just like kanu nwankwo and okocha. Everybody knows that okocha is far better but kanu won CAF player of the year. Wining an award is never a yardstick to measure anything
So, winning an award is never a yardstick to measure anything just cause you could not mention any. Go and tell sportsmen not women that rubbish. Do you know how many languages that Ogboju ode ninu igbo irunmole( Brave hunter in the forest of a thousand demons, by D.O. Fagunwa) translated to. Fagunwa has been writing story before your Achebe dreamt of it. Drop excuse and mention one from your race.

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by Gabriel004: 4:05pm On Mar 05, 2019
somalianprince:
what is this one yapping? Onitsha is a large metropolis. What you have in that picture is Onitsha North and South. Onitsha has covered Ogbaru, Nkpor, Ogidi, Obosi, Oba, Nkwerre, Ogbunike etc, it is the single largest metropolis in this region and it by far more developed and decent that Ibadan. Awka on the other hand covers 6 LGAs, what you are showing there is just Awka North and South. Enugu is equally large, so also other cities in the SE. Yorubas should leave Lagos and go home to their respective states and develop it decently.

Yes, Yoruba should leave Lagos and go home according to this boy that his father is the owner and creator of lagos

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by Gabriel004: 4:06pm On Mar 05, 2019
somalianprince:
This is the aerial view of capital of yoruba land-. IBADAN.

It is clear why every yoruba man or woman is ashamed of their states and always claim to be an indigenes of Lagos. Yorubas should go and demolish their states and develop it decently like SE.


Answer him na. Do you have all that?
Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by mercyville: 4:07pm On Mar 05, 2019
Asshurbanipal:
Yes Lagos was progressing under the British not yorubas. Other nigerians migrated to britsh lagos colony before yoruba. There was no yoruba kingdom or civilization in lagos before British invasion


Shey Na Igbo dey Lagos before the immigrants arrived abi Yoruba?
Yoruba man started the first school CMS in 1800 plus while you are still walking nak.. in Igboland.
The other Yorubas that came after were still the families of the Lagos Yorubas.
Don't compare.It is bad.Yorubas are too much above you.
Can you near these?

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by mercyville: 4:21pm On Mar 05, 2019
somalianprince:
This is the aerial view of capital of yoruba land-. IBADAN.

It is clear why every yoruba man or woman is ashamed of their states and always claim to be an indigenes of Lagos. Yorubas should go and demolish their states and develop it decently like SE.


Only Ibadan is more developed than all the 5 south eastern states joined together.
Do you even have half skyscraper in Igboland? grin

THIS IS IBADAN WHICH BEATS ALL IGBOLAND JOINED.

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by somalianprince: 4:26pm On Mar 05, 2019
Please stop trying so hard to convince anyone here, we all know that Ibadan is at least 95% covered with mud houses and brown rustic roofs.

mercyville:

Only Ibadan is more developed than all the 5 south eastern states joined together.
Do you even have half skyscraper in Igboland? grin

THIS IS IBADAN WHICH BEATS ALL IGBOLAND JOINED.

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by Asshurbanipal: 4:31pm On Mar 05, 2019
Gabriel004:
Posting old pictures of Ibadan to suit yourself. So if he won travel, he no see Dubai, America or Europe. Na igboland he go come think of. Lol Show us these places.
This is London compared to ibadan

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by Asshurbanipal: 4:36pm On Mar 05, 2019
mercyville:

Only Ibadan is more developed than all the 5 south eastern states joined together.
Do you even have half skyscraper in Igboland? grin

THIS IS IBADAN WHICH BEATS ALL IGBOLAND JOINED.

This represent 1% mainly government properties. Show us middle class neighbourhood

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Re: Lagos Before Nigeria By Abdulrazaq Hamzat by Asshurbanipal: 4:43pm On Mar 05, 2019
mercyville:



Shey Na Igbo dey Lagos before the immigrants arrived abi Yoruba?
Yoruba man started the first school CMS in 1800 plus while you are still walking nak.. in Igboland.
The other Yorubas that came after were still the families of the Lagos Yorubas.
Don't compare.It is bad.Yorubas are too much above you.
Can you near these?
You started first but we overtook. Igbos built first university (UI was British), first state university, first private university.

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