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SIRTee15:
American capitalism is hurting it badly....
Moving factories to China, refusal to retrain workers, outsourcing jobs overseas, replacing American workers with foreigners, Employers keeping wages low and stagnant for years are the result of the brutal capitalism practiced in that country....
And the result has been disastrous.....


Wages are not rising as compared to inflation leading to a lot of people dropping from middle class to working class.....

University education is very expensive thus most youths choose to skip college to avoid future bankruptcy....
Unfortunately, there are not so many good jobs available in USA now that won't require a college degree....

Public spending in infrastructure is at all time low due to tax cuts to the wealthy and a dwindling middle class....
Most 1st class US cities can't even compare to 3rd class Chinese cities due to crumbling physical infrastructure....

Building a career as a staff in Wal-Mart or McDonald's is an invitation to lifetime struggle or possible poverty.....
U will forever be dependent on food banks n social welfare to get by.....

American public education system is performing poorly when compared to other OECD due to poor funding....

Healthcare is good but very expensive, 30 percent of Americans are not insured n will rather go to Mexico or Brazil to meet their health needs...
Despite the cost, American health indices rank poorly when compared to other OECD countries.....

The system now in USA is designed in such a way that if u are wealthy, u can never become poor and if u poor, it's going to be extremely difficult to be rich.....

America is producing more millionaires n billionaires than any country, yet the gap between the rich and poor is getting wider....
90 percent of working class Americans now live pay check to pay check....
The American dream is gone......
American capitalism sucks and that's what Bernie wants to challenge....

As far as am concerned, the root cause of the myriad of problems facing America lies in its capitalist system, and that's what should be addressed....
Not building walls or imposing tarrifs....

it is very evident from what you wrote you have very limited knowledge on economics and just regurgitate what you hear without fully grasping the subject matter

in one breath you complain about tariff and complain about job going overseas.
the major purpose of the tariff is to correct the trade in balance between China and the US. To put it bluntly china has been raping the US. But with climbing debt china have now come to the table on bended knee to kiss the US.
The reason Jobs went overseas, is because it cost significantly less to produce products in China that most European countries and America. Hence most companies moved their production to Asia. It's not just the US, it's every big County
This is more in the failings on China than perceived uncontrolled capitalism. the population of China means more people are willing to work for significantly less and with abysmal human right condition companies can get away with alot in China

Inflation rate is not higher than wage rate, pls be educated. where is your data of the sliding middle class? The US is known for wage mobility hence the phrase "The American Dream"


The issue of college is sad, but there are trade schools and community colleges also I feel you should only collect loans if you intend to study a STEM course. Taking a loan to study arts is just stupid. Free college cost money, Who pays
things that are quality are not cheap
on health care, health care isn't cheap any where in the world. What dey don't tell you about single payer health in countries like Canada is the useless wait time to get a doctor and general gradual degradation of that countries health care system. Most go to the US for more serious medical condition.. I don't have the answer for health care but single payer health care has very significant drawbacks

90% of working class Americans are not living paycheck to paycheck. bring your facts or stop peddling falsehood

income inequality is increasing but the American dream is not dead. It's alive and kicking the question is do you have what it takes to achieve it or waiting for freebies

SIRTee15:
Every system has it's pros and con.....

But the question remain...Is China economic system working for the nation...BIG YES....
Is the present USA economic system of WINNER TAKES IT ALL working for the nation and it's people...BIG NO...

China is deliberately suppressing domestic income because they want to milk as much money out of the western economy as long as possible via export....
When western nation finally goes broke, China will turn to domestic consumer spending to stimulate growth.....
The stupid western countries especially USA is too blind to see the problem....
Rather immigrants from 3rd world nation is the cause of their economic woes....

Where is your proof china is suppressing anything. Present facts don't just talk

Now you have moved to immigration.

You don't present your facts in a logical manner

He didn't give up, that's what I learnt from his story.

mrbock:
it is very evident from what you wrote you have very limited knowledge on economics and just regurgitate what you hear without fully grasping the subject matter

in one breath you complain about tariff and complain about job going overseas.
the major purpose of the tariff is to correct the trade in balance between China and the US. To put it bluntly china has been raping the US. But with climbing debt china have now come to the table on bended knee to kiss the US.
The reason Jobs went overseas, is because it cost significantly less to produce products in China that most European countries and America. Hence most companies moved their production to Asia. It's not just the US, it's every big County
This is more in the failings on China than perceived uncontrolled capitalism. the population of China means more people are willing to work for significantly less and with abysmal human right condition companies can get away with alot in China

Inflation rate is not higher than wage rate, pls be educated. where is your data of the sliding middle class? The US is known for wage mobility hence the phrase "The American Dream"


The issue of college is sad, but there are trade schools and community colleges also I feel you should only collect loans if you intend to study a STEM course. Taking a loan to study arts is just stupid. Free college cost money, Who pays
things that are quality are not cheap
on health care, health care isn't cheap any where in the world. What dey don't tell you about single payer health in countries like Canada is the useless wait time to get a doctor and general gradual degradation of that countries health care system. Most go to the US for more serious medical condition.. I don't have the answer for health care but single payer health care has very significant drawbacks

90% of working class Americans are not living paycheck to paycheck. bring your facts or stop peddling falsehood

income inequality is increasing but the American dream is not dead. It's alive and kicking the question is do you have what it takes to achieve it or waiting for freebies

I don't have strength for argument ....
But let me ask u a question...

Why is it countries like switzerland and some Scandinavian countries with higher wages than America and higher cost of production are able to retain their manufacturing industries whereas American manufacturing is almost outsourced with dire consequences for rust belt states and it's population....

wamiikechukwu:
Isn't it how people were shouting that atiku would win but he lost (legitimately or not)

The truth is that no one knows tomorrow

Atiku had people shouting on the internet. Most of Trump's supporters don't queue on Twitter waiting to bash anyone. Hillary Clinton just ruled herself out of US Presidential race.. Nancy Pelosi said Trump should do the country a favor by not running and everyone's clamoring for impeachment. If he's impeached, which there's no evidence of any collusion then they'd easily win.

bilms:
Bernie Sanders, US president in waiting - Mr Rights

https://mrrightsng..com/2019/03/bernie-sanders-us-president-in-waiting.html?m=1

Most popular US senator, Bernie Sanders has announced is entrance into the 2020 US presidential race.

Two days ago, the runner up to Hilary Clinton in the race to 2016 democratic nomination launched is 2020 campaign at Brooklyn with over 1 million volunteers across the country.

People ordinarily wouldn’t vote for any unknown third party. This is the same all over the world. Voting for an unknown third party will be extremely hard, especially a third party, whose campaign they are not seeing on TV and Radio almost all the time.

But you can still break the jinx, says Bernie Sanders, a strong U.S presidential candidate in the 2016 general election, now the major candidate in the race for 2020.

Before venturing into politics, many thought it was impossible for a third party candidate to win election in U.S.

To a lot of people, only Democrats and Republican are destined to win, but Bernie disagreed. He believed that, if Democrats and Republican can do it, others can do it too.

In 1971, Bernie Sanders contested for U.S Senate election as an independent candidate and lost. He didn’t only lose that election; he
got just 2% of the total vote cast. But he said to himself, this isn’t bad. I will try again.

In 1972, he ran for Governor. This time, he didn’t only lose; his votes went down to 1% of the total vote cast. He was not discouraged still. He said to himself once again, this isn’t bad, I will try again.

In 1973, he ran again for Senate and lost. This time, he got 4% of the total vote cast. In 1975, he ran again for governor and still lost. He got 6% of the total vote cast.

In 4 years, he ran 4 times and lost in all 4 attempts. After the 4th attempt, he retired from politics for 5 years.

But in 1981, 5 years later, some people from his state came to him to run for city mayor. It’s more like a Local Government Chairman
Election in Nigeria. He was reluctant at first due to his 4 previous failures, especially after running for Governor and senate, but he oblige.

Bernie Sanders ran this time again for Mayor as an independent candidate and surprisingly, he won the election by just 14 votes. It was unbelievable; an independent candidate defeated the almighty Democrat and Republican Party.

But this was a democratic strong hold nobody thought an unknown candidate could win. So, while Bernie and his supporters were celebrating the victory, the Democrat runner up could not believe this unknown independent could win, he challenged the election result. He believed there must have been an error somewhere.

The votes had to be recounted and after the vote recount, Bernie still won, but
this time with less than 10 votes.

Although, he has won and scaled through the first hurdle, he has to work with the elected democrat city council official.

This means that, he can’t hire his own staff. As a matter of fact, the personal secretary
he hired was sacked by the city council officials. Those democrats didn’t allow him govern with his own ideas. This went on for about a year, until in 1982 when another city council election took place.

Bernie urged many new guys to run for City Council election and they did.

He campaigned for them and among these guys, 6 won. These 6 winners gave him the required veto power to get his ideas running.

After taking charge fully with his own like minded team, he embarked on several pro masses reforms and he got re-elected after 2 years in 1983. He ran again in 1985 and still won.

Faced with opportunity to move up in the political ladder, Bernie ran again for governor in 1986, but he lost the governorship election.
This time, he got 14% of the total vote cast.

2 years later in 1988, he ran for Congress seat and lost. He was the runner up with 31% vote, trailing the winner who got 34%. He was
determined to run again. He said to himself, if as an independent candidate, I can have 31% of the votes, definitely, I can get even more. So in 1988, he ran again for U.S Congress and this time, he won with a very wide margin. He got more than 50% of the total vote and ever
since, he has been running and winning.

Today, Bernie is the longest serving Congress man in the history of U.S.

In 2016, for the first time in history, he joined the Democratic Party to run for U.S presidential election.

He was rigged out by the establishment, but despite losing due to rigging, he has remained consistent with is nationwide advocacy for the issues affecting the ordinary people. Today, he his the most popular politician in U.S, even more popular than the President in terms of favourable rating.

After losing the Presidential election, he created a massive peoples organization called the Our Revolution, a nationwide organization that is forcing those in authority to listen to the people. Most of his ideas have gained nationwide acceptability and this is going to define the race for 2020.

The organisation, Our Revolution is articulating the issues and proffering solutions. Through his position at the Congress, Bernie is sponsoring bills to advance the
cause of the people and mobilizing them to hold their representative accountable to ensure those bills scale through.

Today, Bernie is 76years old, but he his running to win the US Presidency in 2020.

As i have consistently said in the past, if he runs again in 2020, he will become the next President of United States of America and now that he's running, he is like a president in waiting.

The point here is that, it doesn’t necessarily have to be one of the two major parties. Young people must be courageous enough to go under smaller parties.

A small party of yesterday may eventually become the big party and the unknown candidate of yesterday may become the most
popular candidate today.

It also doesn’t necessarily have to be about age. An old competent and dedicated person maybe more useful than a young thoughtless
person. Age is not a reason to throw competence and capacity to
deliver to the gutter.

Politics is the only realistic means to good
governance in a democracy. If you elect a fool to be your representative, you will be forced to live by the laws he make. If you elect a looter, you will live by the consequence of his looting.

And provided the wrong people remain in government, the status quo will always remain.

Fake poster! Fake Bernie! Fake Socialists!! Everything about him fake!!!
People are running away from countries where socialists rule with their bad policies, e.g Venezuela, and they are running to USA, yet this fake con man wants to turn the US into the same socialist economy that people are running from.

mrbock:
Where is your proof china is suppressing anything. Present facts don't just talk

Now you have moved to immigration.

You don't present your facts in a logical manner

I guess u the only one who doesn't know Chinese govt suppresses wages to ensure export is sustained.....

https://qz.com/887038/theres-one-really-big-problem-with-chinas-plan-to-lead-the-new-era-of-globalization/


https://qz.com/460223/china-needs-to-get-its-people-to-spend-and-thats-a-lot-harder-than-it-sounds/


As per immigration - I meant western nations believe the reason for their economic decline is immigration from 3rd world.....
Not knowing their stupid economic policies of unregulated capitalism is the reason wealth is moving from west to east.....

SIRTee15:
American capitalism is hurting it badly....
Moving factories to China, refusal to retrain workers, outsourcing jobs overseas, replacing American workers with foreigners, Employers keeping wages low and stagnant for years are the result of the brutal capitalism practiced in that country....
And the result has been disastrous.....


Wages are not rising as compared to inflation leading to a lot of people dropping from middle class to working class.....

University education is very expensive thus most youths choose to skip college to avoid future bankruptcy....
Unfortunately, there are not so many good jobs available in USA now that won't require a college degree....

Public spending in infrastructure is at all time low due to tax cuts to the wealthy and a dwindling middle class....
Most 1st class US cities can't even compare to 3rd class Chinese cities due to crumbling physical infrastructure....

Building a career as a staff in Wal-Mart or McDonald's is an invitation to lifetime struggle or possible poverty.....
U will forever be dependent on food banks n social welfare to get by.....

American public education system is performing poorly when compared to other OECD due to poor funding....

Healthcare is good but very expensive, 30 percent of Americans are not insured n will rather go to Mexico or Brazil to meet their health needs...
Despite the cost, American health indices rank poorly when compared to other OECD countries.....

The system now in USA is designed in such a way that if u are wealthy, u can never become poor and if u poor, it's going to be extremely difficult to be rich.....

America is producing more millionaires n billionaires than any country, yet the gap between the rich and poor is getting wider....
90 percent of working class Americans now live pay check to pay check....
The American dream is gone......
American capitalism sucks and that's what Bernie wants to challenge....

As far as am concerned, the root cause of the myriad of problems facing America lies in its capitalist system, and that's what should be addressed....
Not building walls or imposing tarrifs....

Still doesn't change the fact they are the most prosperous country on earth, capitalism made them so.

Originalsly:
Trump is popular? What is his popularity rating?...quote that and compare it with that of Obama or Bush at the same point. His well attended rallies are in select racist areas in the country. He belongs to New York.... and can't even be present in NY let alone hold a rally..... too much protest and traffic jams. Many of the people who voted for him did so because of his coded racist campaign. Racists will always support him regardless of what he does....many other supporters have been affected economically by his policies....money is everything to them...they will not vote for him. How many in his own party...whom he selected has jumped ship?...record number...and you are here talking about how popular he is. His trade war with China has affected his voters...be imposed tariffs on certain imports from China....China retaliated by imposing tariffs on products coming out of areas of his core supporters. They are now suffering. He is popular neither at home nor abroad. If you know how a US President is elected..... you should know that it is not by who get the most votes cast by the citizens..... called the popular votes.... Hillary won that. He is wayy more unpopular now than when he was elected.

Ratings on the shitty polls? Talking about people who suffered most cuz of tariffs, China did suffer more than the USA. These so-called public opinion polls are conducted on the same news most of his followers call fake.


None of his supporters got affected in the anyway. In fact, his Tax reform helped a lot of his old supporters (working class)
The only people his policies affected are those on food stamps (he campaigned to take people off food stamps)
2020 is just around the corner. Remember this day, UNLESS DONALD TRUMP IS IMPEACHED, HE'D WIN THE US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS.

nelsonoba:
Fake poster! Fake Bernie! Fake Socialists!! Everything about him fake!!!
People are running away from countries where socialists rule with their bad policies, e.g Venezuela, and they are running to USA, yet this fake con man wants to turn the US into the same socialist economy that people are running from.

They don't even understand that Trump uses what's happening to campaign. Imagine him putting all his interests in Venezuela. He's just showing the public how Socialism ruined the largest oil reserve in the world.

goat22:
Wrong, without the backing of Tinubu and Ekweremadu, Sen. Cindy would have lost. When Saraki went to Washington he warned the citizens of Mississippi to vote Sen. Cindy or face the music, in fact Tinubu has been the deciding factor of the American presidency, he was the one who installed Bush jnr and Obama after he paid the American electorate to vote for them. Stop spreading wrong information please.

Hahahahaha! What a human being you are!

UncleJudax:
There is no evidence of Russia's interference in the 2016 US elections.
Don't promote falsehood.

Am referring in general terms not only in US

mrbock:
it is very evident from what you wrote you have very limited knowledge on economics and just regurgitate what you hear without fully grasping the subject matter

in one breath you complain about tariff and complain about job going overseas.
the major purpose of the tariff is to correct the trade in balance between China and the US. To put it bluntly china has been raping the US. But with climbing debt china have now come to the table on bended knee to kiss the US.
The reason Jobs went overseas, is because it cost significantly less to produce products in China that most European countries and America. Hence most companies moved their production to Asia. It's not just the US, it's every big County
This is more in the failings on China than perceived uncontrolled capitalism. the population of China means more people are willing to work for significantly less and with abysmal human right condition companies can get away with alot in China

Inflation rate is not higher than wage rate, pls be educated. where is your data of the sliding middle class? The US is known for wage mobility hence the phrase "The American Dream"


The issue of college is sad, but there are trade schools and community colleges also I feel you should only collect loans if you intend to study a STEM course. Taking a loan to study arts is just stupid. Free college cost money, Who pays
things that are quality are not cheap
on health care, health care isn't cheap any where in the world. What dey don't tell you about single payer health in countries like Canada is the useless wait time to get a doctor and general gradual degradation of that countries health care system. Most go to the US for more serious medical condition.. I don't have the answer for health care but single payer health care has very significant drawbacks

90% of working class Americans are not living paycheck to paycheck. bring your facts or stop peddling falsehood

income inequality is increasing but the American dream is not dead. It's alive and kicking the question is do you have what it takes to achieve it or waiting for freebies

Job is going overseas because greedy Corporate America just don't care....
All they want is more money which is possible when manufacturing is outsourced.....
An apple executive was asked why I-phone couldn't be manufactured in America......
His response was epic, he said it's not apple's responsibility to provide jobs for Americans. The govt should do that.....


Trump got the diagnosis right but his treatment won't work....
Seriously u want to force China to buy what they don't need....
How sensible is that....
And import tarrifs won't work, u hurt the consumers....
Manufacturing may leave China but they go elsewhere not the USA, maybe africa which is good for us anyway...


For pragmatic solutions....
How about making college easily affordable to the youths without enduring neck breaking loans...

How about retraining or reskilling of workers affected by globalisation n outsourcing to other productive ventures....

How about providing funds to public schools to stimulate interest in STEM amongst students....as we all know, STEM is the backbone of future economy....

How about increasing direct govt funding for research and development in AI, robotic manufacturing, 3D printing, 5G tecnology, automated assemblies, new materials, high end manufacturing, quantum technology.....
Thereby keeping an edge in innovation and productivity, rather than feeling threatened by foreign competitors and kidnapping their daughters....

The above are the ways manufacturing can return to USA...
China is already ahead in all these new technologies and can boast of 100 percent robotic assemblies yet America that badly needs it dont even one....

Even if u feel China is hurting your economy, an holistic approach of ensuring Chinese economy is properly evaluated and placed rightfully by IMF and WTO will be more pragmatic.....

How about putting a leash around the neck of greedy capitalist establishment by enacting policies that makes needless outsourcing unattractive.....

Trump won't do this because he also benefits from the brutal capitalism bleeding poor Americans badly...
A con man who once open a fake university, awarding dubious certificates to naive Americans.....
A 419 who filed for bankruptcy repeatedly to avoid paying back his debt....
He even bragged is an expert in bankruptcy.....

Hillary Clinton's policy of bringing America glory days back consisted of the points I wrote about, but the short-sighted Americans won't see it.....

Now they have trump who wants to build a wall, keep immigrants out and force the rest of the world to buy American products they don't need.....

mrbock:
90% of working class Americans are not living paycheck to paycheck. bring your facts or stop peddling falsehood

income inequality is increasing but the American dream is not dead. It's alive and kicking the question is do you have what it takes to achieve it or waiting for freebies

If u still believe in the American dream delusion, u are on your own....
Even, Americans don't believe it anymore.....

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/29/us-economy-workers-paycheck-robert-reich#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/09/shutdown-highlights-that-4-in-5-us-workers-live-paycheck-to-paycheck.html

Watch this documentary and open your eyes to the rot going on in America....
Most ordinary Americans can't even afford to pay rent anymore.....
Don't let Hollywood deceive u....

In fact, as a Nigerian, if u can save 35 thousand a month, u are richer than 50% of americans....
that's how bad it is for ordinary americans....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSloUNWK45s

PURE CAPITALISM AS PRACTICED IN AMERICA IS EVIL....
IT MAKES THE RICH RICHER AND LEAVES THE REST OF US VULNERABLE.....

Atigba:
Still doesn't change the fact they are the most prosperous country on earth, capitalism made them so.

Prosperous in what way....
American median income is the most ridiculous among developed nations .....
Bring out facts to show american prosperity is evenly distributed....

SIRTee15:
Job is going overseas because greedy Corporate America just don't care....
All they want is more money which is possible when manufacturing is outsourced.....
An apple executive was asked why I-phone couldn't be manufactured in America......
His response was epic, he said it's not apple's responsibility to provide jobs for Americans. The govt should do that.....


Trump got the diagnosis right but his treatment won't work....
Seriously u want to force China to buy what they don't need....
How sensible is that....
And import tarrifs won't work, u hurt the consumers....
Manufacturing may leave China but they go elsewhere not the USA, maybe africa which is good for us anyway...


For pragmatic solutions....
How about making college easily affordable to the youths without enduring neck breaking loans...

How about retraining or reskilling of workers affected by globalisation n outsourcing to other productive ventures....

How about providing funds to public schools to stimulate interest in STEM amongst students....as we all know, STEM is the backbone of future economy....

How about increasing direct govt funding for research and development in AI, robotic manufacturing, 3D printing, 5G tecnology, automated assemblies, new materials, high end manufacturing, quantum technology.....
Thereby keeping an edge in innovation and productivity, rather than feeling threatened by foreign competitors and kidnapping their daughters....

The above are the ways manufacturing can return to USA...
China is already ahead in all these new technologies and can boast of 100 percent robotic assemblies yet America that badly needs it dont even one....

Even if u feel China is hurting your economy, an holistic approach of ensuring Chinese economy is properly evaluated and placed rightfully by IMF and WTO will be more pragmatic.....

The above solutions were the core of Hillary Clinton's policy of bringing America glory days back but the short-sighted Americans won't see it.....

Now they have trump who wants to build a wall, keep immigrants out and force the rest of the world to buy American products they don't need.....

There's a huge difference between legal immigrants and illegals.

Temple1288:
They don't even understand that Trump uses what's happening to campaign. Imagine him putting all his interests in Venezuela. He's just showing the public how Socialism ruined the largest oil reserve in the world.

honestly, sometimes it's the stupid Americans who follow the likes of Bernie Sanders around that i blame the more, because if they had any sense in them, they would have seen that socialism has always been a disaster everywhere it has been tried from The Soviet Union to North Korea and Venezuela. These guys have the best economy in the history of mankind in today's America, yet they are still greedy and complaining and now want to ruin it for everyone else because of their stupidity.

SIRTee15:
If u still believe in the American dream delusion, u are on your own....
Even, Americans don't believe it anymore.....

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/29/us-economy-workers-paycheck-robert-reich#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/09/shutdown-highlights-that-4-in-5-us-workers-live-paycheck-to-paycheck.html

Watch this documentary and open your eyes to the rot going on in America....
Most ordinary Americans can't even afford to pay rent anymore.....
Don't let Hollywood deceive u....

In fact, as a Nigerian, if u can save 35 thousand a month, u are richer than 50% of americans....
that's how bad it is for ordinary americans....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSloUNWK45s

PURE CAPITALISM AS PRACTICED IN AMERICA IS EVIL....
IT MAKES THE RICH RICHER AND LEAVES THE REST OF US VULNERABLE.....

You are just another conman Socialist Liar! Statistics show that between 1970 and today, the rich have gotten richer, and the poor have have gotten richer. Go and check minimum wage in 1970 and compare it with minimum wage today. Keep deluding yourself with all those Leftist propaganda you watch that they use to deceive you and keep you in their 'plantation'. This is why you guys only reason with your emotions instead of facts!

nelsonoba:
You are just another conman Socialist Liar! Statistics show that between 1970 and today, the rich have gotten richer, and the poor have have gotten richer. Go and check minimum wage in 1970 and compare it with minimum wage today. Keep deluding yourself with all those Leftist propaganda you watch that they use to deceive you and keep you in their 'plantation'. This is why you guys only reason with your emotions instead of facts!

did u read those articles at all....

This is an excerpt....
'Blanketing all of this are stagnant wages and vanishing job benefits. The typical American worker now earns around $44,500 a year, not much more than what the typical worker earned in 40 years ago, adjusted for inflation. Although the US economy continues to grow, most of the gains have been going to a relatively few top executives of large companies, financiers, and inventors and owners of digital devices.

continue your deluded assertion for pure capitalism support....
When it finally crumbles america, una eyes go clear....

the annoying thing is u guyz will be the first to start wailing anytime a story about Dangote appears on frontpage, accusing him of monopolistic tendencies.....

Where is this one coming from. Bernie Sanders, the socialist failure won't even make it through primaries. In fact he even filed to contest senate as independent in the event he fails presidential primaries under Dem. Back up plan for anticipated failure.
So I wonder what got u excited at the chance of Bernie

SIRTee15:
I don't have strength for argument ....
But let me ask u a question...

Why is it countries like switzerland and some Scandinavian countries with higher wages than America and higher cost of production are able to retain their manufacturing industries whereas American manufacturing is almost outsourced with dire consequences for rust belt states and it's population....

First off Switzerland and the Scandinavian counties are significantly smaller in terms of population than the US that's what their per capita income on paper is higher

There manufacturing strength is almost negligible in the grand scheme of things


You make it sound like all the factories in the mid west have closed down. Although greatly dismissed they still exist


Asia and in particular China is now the power house of production. You can't get those prices anywhere

mrnatural:
Unfortunately your vote doesn’t count

What do you mean?

SIRTee15:
Job is going overseas because greedy Corporate America just don't care....
All they want is more money which is possible when manufacturing is outsourced.....
An apple executive was asked why I-phone couldn't be manufactured in America......
His response was epic, he said it's not apple's responsibility to provide jobs for Americans. The govt should do that.....


Trump got the diagnosis right but his treatment won't work....
Seriously u want to force China to buy what they don't need....
How sensible is that....
And import tarrifs won't work, u hurt the consumers....
Manufacturing may leave China but they go elsewhere not the USA, maybe africa which is good for us anyway...


For pragmatic solutions....
How about making college easily affordable to the youths without enduring neck breaking loans...

How about retraining or reskilling of workers affected by globalisation n outsourcing to other productive ventures....

How about providing funds to public schools to stimulate interest in STEM amongst students....as we all know, STEM is the backbone of future economy....

How about increasing direct govt funding for research and development in AI, robotic manufacturing, 3D printing, 5G tecnology, automated assemblies, new materials, high end manufacturing, quantum technology.....
Thereby keeping an edge in innovation and productivity, rather than feeling threatened by foreign competitors and kidnapping their daughters....

The above are the ways manufacturing can return to USA...
China is already ahead in all these new technologies and can boast of 100 percent robotic assemblies yet America that badly needs it dont even one....

Even if u feel China is hurting your economy, an holistic approach of ensuring Chinese economy is properly evaluated and placed rightfully by IMF and WTO will be more pragmatic.....

How about putting a leash around the neck of greedy capitalist establishment by enacting policies that makes needless outsourcing unattractive.....

Trump won't do this because he also benefits from the brutal capitalism bleeding poor Americans badly...
A con man who once open a fake university, awarding dubious certificates to naive Americans.....
A 419 who filed for bankruptcy repeatedly to avoid paying back his debt....
He even bragged is an expert in bankruptcy.....

Hillary Clinton's policy of bringing America glory days back consisted of the points I wrote about, but the short-sighted Americans won't see it.....

Now they have trump who wants to build a wall, keep immigrants out and force the rest of the world to buy American products they don't need.....

My guy are serious at all.

it seems you Just hate trump.

the Chinese are coming with bended knees and you are saying it didn't work

I'm really confused �

rentAcock:
Well I think Bernie Sanders has a better chance of beating Trump. He is a white man with a sharp tongue just like Trump. America isn't ready for a female president and definitely no black man will win for another 100 years. Elizabeth Warren already has a weak point that Trump can explore, her claims of being a native American doesn't help her cause. The pretty Kamala Harris already has to deal with her recent gaffe about coming from a weed smoking family of which her father denied. The protestant populace is definitely not ready for Cory Booker the gay black senator. So Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden have the best chance of winning the democratic ticket but we should never forget that in 1994 Rashidi Yekini became the first Nigerian player to score in the world cup tournament where we defeated Bulgaria 3-0.

Your analysis is spot on. I just have this feeling that Bernie is the only one that can measure up to to Trump in terms of supporters. Besides I often wonder how Trump amassed his supporters that always fill up his rallies. It’s just mind blowing.

Has he bult the MEXICO wall? Cos America is not Nigeria where failure is celebrated

SIRTee15:
If u still believe in the American dream delusion, u are on your own....
Even, Americans don't believe it anymore.....

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/29/us-economy-workers-paycheck-robert-reich#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/09/shutdown-highlights-that-4-in-5-us-workers-live-paycheck-to-paycheck.html

Watch this documentary and open your eyes to the rot going on in America....
Most ordinary Americans can't even afford to pay rent anymore.....
Don't let Hollywood deceive u....

In fact, as a Nigerian, if u can save 35 thousand a month, u are richer than 50% of americans....
that's how bad it is for ordinary americans....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSloUNWK45s

PURE CAPITALISM AS PRACTICED IN AMERICA IS EVIL....
IT MAKES THE RICH RICHER AND LEAVES THE REST OF US VULNERABLE.....

America is a country with very high wage mobility, thats why there embassies in Nigeria is being rushed like they are sharing dollars

you said it yourself the have they highest number of millionaires in the world and if you dig deeper you would discover they are first generation millionaires (not trust fund babies)

People from all ethnicity come into that country, provided they play their cards right can aspire to move up the economic ladders

check out the Indians, Jews and the Asian communities it's evident. from immigrant to buying up gas station and mini marts

That's the American dream


My mother moved from her village in Mbano IMO state. They were as poor as you can think of, she went to America put her head down, minding her business became a nurse, got her own house got married to my dad and became a success and you sit there and tell me the American dream doesn't exist

I'm in Lagos now. I still run my dropshipping store, making money everyday all the way from Lagos and you tell me capitalism bla bla bla


Just say you don't like trump, I'll understand but just leave America and Capitalism alone

GOD BLESS AMERICA !

SIRTee15:
did u read those articles at all....

This is an excerpt....
'Blanketing all of this are stagnant wages and vanishing job benefits. The typical American worker now earns around $44,500 a year, not much more than what the typical worker earned in 40 years ago, adjusted for inflation. Although the US economy continues to grow, most of the gains have been going to a relatively few top executives of large companies, financiers, and inventors and owners of digital devices.

continue your deluded assertion for pure capitalism support....
When it finally crumbles america, una eyes go clear....

the annoying thing is u guyz will be the first to start wailing anytime a story about Dangote appears on frontpage, accusing him of monopolistic tendencies.....

When all your sources of information come from Leftist Democrat wallstreet puppets, it will not be surprising that you end up believing this bullshit propaganda. Go and tell this to the 3.8million Americans who have dropped off foodstamps since the last 2years and see if they will not stone you! So many black Americans are leaving the Democrat party and joining the Trump train after seeing the clear difference with their own eyes and witnessing the grand hypocrisy of the Left. My elder sister went to America as an immigrant, and today she has left the Democratic party and is a very vocal Trump supporter after seeing the clear difference Trump has made as against the fake news we hear from the mainstream media. America currently has the lowest unemployment rate in about 50years, and the lowest black and hispanic unemployment rate since records began.....and they all happened because of Trump's policies. Your fake news told us that America will be thrown into recession if Trump becomes President, but instead the direct opposite is what we are seeing. When will you guys just grow up and stop whinning over a performing President just because he says he doesn't support abortion and gay marriage even though he believes gays should be free to live whatever lives they want as adults Trump has done far more for the benefit of the average black man in America that Obama did in 8years!

mrbock:
Say what you want about trump, but 2 things I will always disagree with are

1. He's racist, how? Prior to Running for president, in the 90's and early 2000. he was loved by most of the black leaders Jessie Jackson and Al shapton

Can you give me an example where he is a racist??

I mean personal examples, not his supporters yadda yadda yadda

He was only labelled a racist when he became a prominent figure in the Republican Party


2. Trade war was a master stroke, for the first time china is coming on bended knee to negotiate. Trump is a ruthless business man. You have to give it to him. Have you seen the economic growth and unemployment numbers??


For you point on Hilary winning highest number of votes America is a constitution federal republic

meaning each state is autonomous.

so the electoral college model was adopted as the determinant for their Presidential election. Each state according to the number of population is ascribed a number of votes in the electoral college. the higher the population the higher the number of votes.

Who ever wins the simple majority in each state carries the electoral votes.

this was done so that every part of the country would be involved in deciding the outcome of the president.

If the highest votes approach was used New York and California(because of their high population) would be deciding the outcome of the president

I hope that's clear, he lost the popular vote because of the hold the democratic party has in urban areas. He won most parts of the country

So your argument is invalid

1. Trump was loved by Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson?...and which other Black leaders?..how you came to that conclusion? Is it maybe because they met with him?...therefore they love him? Kanye West and Steve Harvey met with him... Kanye loves him...does Steve Harvey? ...and 3ven if they all do love him...does that mean he is not a racist? How many Blacks love Messi..... does that make him not a racist?
His personal lawyer for like 10 years.... .Mike Cohen.... said he is a racist. Wouldn't he know?
2. Trade war..... master stroke?....if China did not retaliate. .ost countries never do...China did...the ones who suffer the most are Trump's supporters because his base is in the Middle Belt and China targeted products coming out of the middle belt. Within two weeks more tariffs should be implemented..... China is ready to retaliate...they will not go into effect.

Orjiugo8803:
Your analysis is spot on. I just have this feeling that Bernie is the only one that can measure up to to Trump in terms of supporters. Besides I often wonder how Trump amassed his supporters that always fill up his rallies. It’s just mind blowing.

Trump uses scare tactics and fear-mongering. I hope he's impeached before 2020.

He's very popular and loved, in fact one of the reasons Donald Trump was able to win Hillary Clinton was the fact that, Bernie supporters believed he was rigged out for Clinton, and decided form a coalition for Trump.
Don't also forget that, he won more states in the primaries, just that he had fewer delegates.
One of his ardent supporters that was supposed to introduce Hillary on state in the DNC was cursing her out.

But, I do not think he will defeat Trump, I dont think so.