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Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by ItsMeAboki(m): 11:41am On Mar 06, 2019
You can quote the law as many times as you like; yet the allegation of money laundering can never be substantiated unless they can prove that the bouillons were carrying more than N5 million; in fact for all they know the bouillons could even be empty and Tinubu could even claim they were used to as a psychological gimmick simply to intimidate the opposition.
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by 9jaRealist: 12:05pm On Mar 06, 2019
allthingsgood:
Only stupid people question this bullion van. How many times does Obasanjo, atiku or Babangida goes to bankhuh Smh
These pple are the bank themselves. So rather than waste time hating them stupidly, u better intensify your hustle
How many times does Obama go to banks? shocked

Of course, most people do not need to go to the bank to be able to conduct financial transactions. They can bank online, use banking apps or their credit and/or debit cards. Alternatively, they can write a check and send someone else to the bank. The only people who move around large amounts of cash (other than banks) these days are CRIMINALS or in this instance likely vote-buyers. Quit defending the indefensible.
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by chozzy: 12:11pm On Mar 06, 2019
ivandragon:
lol...

so tinubu is free to use his money as he likes but atiku can be hounded for doing transactions through financial institutions as required by law...


I marvel how buharideens condemn supposed criminal acts committed by the PDP & then justify those same acts when they are committed by APC members...
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by lexy2014: 12:38pm On Mar 06, 2019
Bobby4090:
What's the big deal about bullion vans. Anyone can legally hire a Bullion Van if security demands so. Go to some mega churches each Sunday and you'll see bullion vans come to take tithes and offerings to the bank. Go to Canaanland etc.

Some Local Governments Councils in the interior sometimes hire bullion vans month end for salary payments. Assuming I have a farm and need to pay my workers N25m month end, I can request for my bank to bring it in a Bullion van and pay for the services. It's simple.

Its only in a backward country like ours that people see bullion vans and link it with corruption. Abroad, people use bullion vans to convey even such personal valuables like diamond necklace, rings, paintings etc. It's not a taboo folks.

If Tinubu as APC leader needs to give N10k mobilization money etc to 500 APC election monitors which is legal. He can request for N50m to be brought in bullion vans. And the will be given the money cash.
QED.
U gave d instance of canaanland& local govts. That is d practice with organizations that handle large volumes of cash. But are u saying d volume of cash tinubu handles as an individual compares 2d offering winners collects on a Sunday? Who are d workers salary tinubu was paying that u now compare him 2 LG?

Secondly, Tinubu didn't ask bullion van to bring paintings& jewelry to his house. It was cash d bullion van brought. So ur analogy doesn't correlate.

As APC leader, if tinubu requested 4 50m on d eve of election, shouldn't u b asking were did he get such funds? What is d source of his income?
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by lexy2014: 12:39pm On Mar 06, 2019
ItsMeAboki:
You can quote the law as many times as you like; yet the allegation of money laundering can never be substantiated unless they can prove that the bouillons were carrying more than N5 million; in fact for all they know the bouillons could even be empty and Tinubu could even claim they were used to as a psychological gimmick simply to intimidate the opposition.
D bullion vans were carry amala& gbegiri with jollof rice. I agree. As a private citizen u can.just hire empty bullion van to play gimmick
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by lexy2014: 12:46pm On Mar 06, 2019
Akolawole:
We worry over unnecessary things.

Is the Van loaded with cash?

Is Tinubu now Alhaji Adedubu?

Will Tinubu by himself be DIRECTLY giving people money?

Where are his front soldiers?

Where are his ward chairmen?

People of his status will NEVER be actively involved in sharing money.
D bullion vans weren't loaded with cash. They were loaded with jollof rice, amala&gbegiri
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by ItsMeAboki(m): 1:10pm On Mar 06, 2019
lexy2014:
D bullion vans were carry amala& gbegiri with jollof rice. I agree. As a private citizen u can.just hire empty bullion van to play gimmick
Yes, you can, and they were probably carrying garri and amala - oya try to prove otherwise.
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by allthingsgood: 1:12pm On Mar 06, 2019
9jaRealist:
How many times does Obama go to banks? shocked

Of course, most people do not need to go to the bank to be able to conduct financial transactions. They can bank online, use banking apps or their credit and/or debit cards. Alternatively, they can write a check and send someone else to the bank. The only people who move around large amounts of cash (other than banks) these days are CRIMINALS or in this instance likely vote-buyers. Quit defending the indefensible.
obama uses public facilities just like everyone else. You have no point
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by lexy2014: 1:24pm On Mar 06, 2019
ItsMeAboki:
Yes, you can, and they were probably carrying garri and amala - oya try to prove otherwise.
I have already told u what d bullion van was carrying so which one are u asking me to prove otherwise

So how is it done? How does a private citizen hire empty bullion van? Pls explain.
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by lexy2014: 1:25pm On Mar 06, 2019
allthingsgood:
obama uses public facilities just like everyone else. You have no point
Like bullion van
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by chozzy: 1:55pm On Mar 06, 2019
Paperwhite:
Tinubu's bullion van scandal is now akin to the Gov.Umar Ganduje's babanriga dollar-bribe stuffing scandal.These are two well confirmed cases of financial fraud but the morally corruption APC govt & it's affiliate hypocritical lapdogs(EFCC, ICPC, FIU, DSS etc) have as usual kept an annoying silence on this issue.
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by ItsMeAboki(m): 2:20pm On Mar 06, 2019
lexy2014:
I have already told u what d bullion van was carrying so which one are u asking me to prove otherwise

So how is it done? How does a private citizen hire empty bullion van? Pls explain.
You obviously didn't read my post carefully enough.

You use your money to hire them; commercial banks operate to make money; you can even hire their bouillon vans to convey even your grandmother's akara from Oshodi bus stop to VI, as long as you can pay their rates - the vans can be used to convey other items, not just money.
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by omoiyalayi(m): 2:31pm On Mar 06, 2019
jnrbayano:
Does hitting like makes one rich?
Lol grin

If your faith agreed with it why not
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by ewizard1: 3:23pm On Mar 06, 2019
A lot of dondies think most of us don't know the laws to Bullion vans. Nobody said it is not his money.

Oga Bobby4090, the issue is "as an APC Chieftain, why require such a huge measure of cash on the EVE OF AN ELECTION?" Only same fools would not think it's for vote buying.
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by Oshi5403(m): 4:12pm On Mar 06, 2019
The Trueth Is,some People Are Just Above The Law In This Country.
I Laugh Whenever I Hear People Say Buhari Wants To Probe Baba Iyabo(obasanjo).

People Like Tinubu,the Late Adedibu(strong man Of Molete,Ibadan),obasanjo(baba Iyabo) Etc Are Just Above The Law.
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by jnrbayano(m): 4:57pm On Mar 06, 2019
omoiyalayi:
Lol grin

If your faith agreed with it why not
What faith?

Faith without works is dead. Do you know this? huh
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by omoiyalayi(m): 8:40pm On Mar 06, 2019
jnrbayano:
What faith?

Faith without works is dead. Do you know this? huh
Yeah I know

Am just been sarcastic
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by lexy2014: 9:19pm On Mar 06, 2019
ItsMeAboki:
You obviously didn't read my post carefully enough.

You use your money to hire them; commercial banks operate to make money; you can even hire their bouillon vans to convey even your grandmother's akara from Oshodi bus stop to VI, as long as you can pay their rates - the vans can be used to convey other items, not just money.
We are saying d same thing. Earlier u said:

"in fact for all they know the bouillons could even be empty and Tinubu could even claim they were used to as a psychological gimmick simply to intimidate the opposition."


That's u saying d bullion vans were empty that's y I asked u how do u hire bullion vans from banks. So I read ur post ur "carefully enough". Maybe u didn't remember what u wrote.

Banks operate to make money. How do they make money? Does part of their means of making money include putting up their assets like bullion van 4 hire to d general public? So how does a member of d public hire a bullion van from a bank?
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by deomelo: 9:40pm On Mar 06, 2019
lexy2014:
We are saying d same thing. Earlier u said:

"in fact for all they know the bouillons could even be empty and Tinubu could even claim they were used to as a psychological gimmick simply to intimidate the opposition."


That's u saying d bullion vans were empty that's y I asked u how do u hire bullion vans from banks. So I read ur post ur "carefully enough". Maybe u didn't remember what u wrote.

Banks operate to make money. How do they make money? Does part of their means of making money include putting up their assets like bullion van 4 hire to d general public? So how does a member of d public hire a bullion van from a bank?
Approach the Bank with your request and Fees. This is common sense.
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by lexy2014: 9:43pm On Mar 06, 2019
deomelo:
Approach the Bank with your request and Fees. This is common sense.
This ur common sense is plenty oh. So how much is used to hire bullion van? Who& who have u seen that "hired" bullion van from a bank?
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by deomelo: 9:51pm On Mar 06, 2019
lexy2014:
This ur common sense is plenty oh. So how much is used to hire bullion van? Who& who have u seen that "hired" bullion van from a bank?
Approach the Bank with your request and questions, NL is not a Bank and they don't rent out B.Van on NL.
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by lexy2014: 10:08pm On Mar 06, 2019
deomelo:
Approach the Bank with your request and questions, NL is not a Bank and they don't rent out B.Van on NL.
Did u approach any bank in d past with a request to hire their bullion van? If u are saying banks put up their bullion vans 4 hire then u must have first hand experience. Pls share ur experience. That shouldn't b difficult, should it?
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by ItsMeAboki(m): 10:25pm On Mar 06, 2019
lexy2014:
We are saying d same thing. Earlier u said:

"in fact for all they know the bouillons could even be empty and Tinubu could even claim they were used to as a psychological gimmick simply to intimidate the opposition."


That's u saying d bullion vans were empty that's y I asked u how do u hire bullion vans from banks. So I read ur post ur "carefully enough". Maybe u didn't remember what u wrote.

Banks operate to make money. How do they make money? Does part of their means of making money include putting up their assets like bullion van 4 hire to d general public? So how does a member of d public hire a bullion van from a bank?
You are still failing to read and comprehend what has been clearly written even after clarification.

Let me break it down for you one by one.

1. If have huge amount of money or any (valuable) item to move under security; you can contract a bank to do it for you.

2. The service is available to organisations including any individual who can pay their charges.

3. The item to be conveyed doesn't have to be money; it can be anything - even the thin air; just as long as you can pay.

4.Yes, banks make money in so many different ways (not just lending and investing money) including so many things under the collective name of 'Service Charge' - transportation of your money (or valuable) in their bouillons falls under that.

5. That was why I said; Tinubu could even claim the bouillons were empty, because no one had seen their content in his house and therefore could prove they were actually carrying money, in the first place - let alone beyond the legal limit.

6. That was why I said the allegation against him would be difficult to prove - for lack of admissible evidence.
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by lexy2014: 10:47pm On Mar 06, 2019
ItsMeAboki:
You are still failing to read and comprehend what has been clearly written even after clarification.

Let me break it down for you one by one.

1. If have huge amount of money or any (valuable) item to move under security; you can contract a bank to do it for you.

2. The service is available to organisations including any individual who can pay their charges.

3. The item to be conveyed doesn't have to be money; it can be anything - even the thin air; just as long as you can pay.

4.Yes, banks make money in so many different ways (not just lending and investing money) including so many things under the collective name of 'Service Charge' - transportation of your money (or valuable) in their bouillons falls under that.

5. That was why I said; Tinubu could even claim the bouillons were empty, because no one had seen their content in his house and therefore could prove they were actually carrying money, in the first place - let alone beyond the legal limit.

6. That was why I said the allegation against him would be difficult to prove - for lack of admissible evidence.
Oga once again, according to u:

"in fact for all they know the bouillons could even be empty and Tinubu could even claim they were used to as a psychological gimmick simply to intimidate the opposition."


Except u don't understand what u wrote earlier. Let me explain to u d meaning of what u said. In ur quote above, u trying to say that Tinubu hired empty bullion vans to use as a "psychological gimmick simply to intimidate the opposition". That is y I asked u, how does a member of d public hire a bullion van from a bank?

All u have written above doesn't relate with d excerpt of d post I quoted especially ur number 5. U seem 2b talking with both sides of ur mouth. How can Tinubu claim d bullion vans were empty when he acknowledged that there was money in d vans when he said how's it any persons business what he does with his money?

What else is there to prove when u c bullion vans moving around? What other valuables other than cash do bullion vans carry in Nigeria?

Have u seen or witnessed any bank charge any of its customers 4 helping them supply or evacuate their cash? Can u give me example?
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by deomelo: 10:56pm On Mar 06, 2019
lexy2014:
Did u approach any bank in d past with a request to hire their bullion van? If u are saying banks put up their bullion vans 4 hire then u must have first hand experience. Pls share ur experience. That shouldn't b difficult, should it?

I don't remember telling you that I need BV or have ever approached any Bank for BV so why ask silly and irrelevant questions?

Who is sitting in NL asking dumb questions about BV as if Banks have offices on NL and are renting out BV to people on NL.

Some of you have mentality and same IQ like 1 day old babies.
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by deomelo: 10:58pm On Mar 06, 2019
lexy2014:
Oga once again, according to u:

"in fact for all they know the bouillons could even be empty and Tinubu could even claim they were used to as a psychological gimmick simply to intimidate the opposition."


Except u don't understand what u wrote earlier. Let me explain to u d meaning of what u said. In ur quote above, u trying to say that Tinubu hired empty bullion vans to use as a "psychological gimmick simply to intimidate the opposition". That is y I asked u, how does a member of d public hire a bullion van from a bank?

All u have written above doesn't relate with d excerpt of d post I quoted especially ur number 5. U seem 2b talking with both sides of ur mouth. How can Tinubu claim d bullion vans were empty when he acknowledged that there was money in d vans when he said how's it any persons business what he does with his money?

What else is there to prove when u c bullion vans moving around? What other valuables other than cash do bullion vans carry in Nigeria?

Have u seen or witnessed any bank charge any of its customers 4 helping them supply or evacuate their cash? Can u give me example?
So, BV transports only cash?

How ignorant..
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by lexy2014: 11:10pm On Mar 06, 2019
deomelo:
So, BV transports only cash?

How ignorant..
Professor. In Nigeria, have u seen bullion vans transporting any other valuable apart from cash?
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by lexy2014: 11:18pm On Mar 06, 2019
deomelo:

I don't remember telling you that I need BV or have ever approached any Bank for BV so why ask silly and irrelevant questions?

Who is sitting in NL asking dumb questions about BV as if Banks have offices on NL and are renting out BV to people on NL.

Some of you have mentality and same IQ like 1 day old babies.
Did I also tell u that I need d services of a bullion van? So if u have never approached any bank 4 bullion van, how did u now no there is a fee that is paid? How did u no u will approach d bank with a request& a fee? Are u just guessing or u are speaking from experience?

If u didn't want 2b asked dumb questions, u 4 stay ur lane. Is it by force to answer dumb questions? But u want 2b asked dumb questions. Its like u enjoy d dumb questions. Arent u now showing that u are part of d "Some of you have mentality and same IQ like 1 day old babies"?
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by deomelo: 11:41pm On Mar 06, 2019
lexy2014:
Professor. In Nigeria, have u seen bullion vans transporting any other valuable apart from cash?
You know they transport cash only because BV doors and contents are always wide open for you to see when the move around?

See how silly and goofy you sound?

Again, some of you have mentality and same IQ like 1 day old babies.
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by lexy2014: 11:46pm On Mar 06, 2019
deomelo:
You mean BV doors and contents are always wide open for you to see what they transport?

See how silly and goofy you sound?

Again, some of you have mentality and same IQ like 1 day old babies.
Since d doors aren't open 4u to view its contents, how do u now no that bullion vans carry other valuables other than cash?

In d end, in an attempt to try to prove this:

"see how silly and goofy you sound?
Again, some of you have mentality and same IQ like 1 day old babies",

u ended up proving that u possess these qualities much than I do
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by deomelo: 11:46pm On Mar 06, 2019
lexy2014:
Did I also tell u that I need d services of a bullion van? So if u have never approached any bank 4 bullion van, how did u now no there is a fee that is paid? How did u no u will approach d bank with a request& a fee? Are u just guessing or u are speaking from experience?

If u didn't want 2b asked dumb questions, u 4 stay ur lane. Is it by force to answer dumb questions? But u want 2b asked dumb questions. Its like u enjoy d dumb questions. Arent u now showing that u are part of d "Some of you have mentality and same IQ like 1 day old babies"?
You don't need a BV, but you are on NL asking silly questions about BV instead of approaching a bank where they rent them out for info?

Is NL a Bank or do they rent out BV on NL?

Now, you sound like a troll.
Re: Tinubu’s Bullion Vans In The Eyes Of The Law By Lawrence Nnoli by lexy2014: 11:52pm On Mar 06, 2019
deomelo:
You don't need a BV, but you are on NL asking silly questions about BV instead of approaching a bank where they rent them out for info?

Is NL a Bank or do they rent out BV on NL?

Now, you sound like a troll.
And since u don't need a bullion van or approached a bank 4d purpose of hiring its bullion van, how did u now become an expert on d issue to d extent that u recommended that I approach banks with a request& a fee? If u knew nothing about d discussion, y did u get involved in it? If my questions are silly, then y did u bother answering them?

U seem 2b good at exhibiting in high proportion d traits u accuse me of having
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