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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by airmark(m):
Debroslink:
Them don use EPL hype buy you sha... Pique has seen the wrath of CR7, Prime Lewandowski, Prime Robben, Prime Bale, et al.

Van Dijk hasn't been tested by elite forwards like Messi and Ronaldo, yet he's better than Pique? Wetin you dey yarn?

Pique has been our pillar for the past 10 years and has tutored the likes of Yaya Toure, Mascherano, Abidal in UCL finals, but Van Dijk that is still in his 1st season in Europe is better?

Nawa ooh.
Though you are yet to defend that stupid statement that Hazard singlehandedly made Chelsea to concede 3 goals against atm, i hope you know that Van Dijk played ucl last season and made the team of the season. You always type rubbish.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by biomustry: 12:00pm On Mar 25, 2019
Neymar1095:
Dominated a farmers league lol.
Europe is La Liga's farmers' League, how about that huh
Una own na women support league
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by biomustry: 12:02pm On Mar 25, 2019
airmark:
But when raumdeuter types his rubbish asking for Hazard's Ucl trophy, you and your fellow 'up barca' fans, won't come out to talk sense into his skull, that soccer is a team sport. Continue.
Every time hazard is mentioned you start jumping all over the place, replace hazard with dembele in that shesi team and see wonders. I'm also hazards fan but d guy de fall hand
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Awesome01(m): 12:16pm On Mar 25, 2019
Asisat and Dembouz looks like brother and sister

Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Neymar1095(m): 1:27pm On Mar 25, 2019
biomustry:
Europe is La Liga's farmers' League, how about that huh
Una own na women support league
Messi has not done shitt in Europe for more than 5 seasons and counting. All he does is stat pad against leganes and betis then disappears in the champions league.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Isomerizm(m): 1:34pm On Mar 25, 2019
airmark:
Which CL or world cup final did Weah play? Which CL or world cup final did Nedved play? I don't know when you will stop using all these stupid criteria, for rating players. undecided
You should understand this stuff is a beef.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by TLona1: 1:55pm On Mar 25, 2019
airmark:
You will be disgraced.

He will be the one to retire Ronaldo and Messi permanently from that top 2, under Zidane. If Barca are smart, they should hijack Hazard, send Coutinho away, play him on the left side with Messi on the right.


https://i.imgflip.com/rpgfo.gif
Just a friendly match. When it mattered the most (UCL), he was busy dancing ShakuShaku while Willian was running the show.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by raumdeuter:
airmark:
You will be disgraced.

He will be the one to retire Ronaldo and Messi permanently from that top 2, under Zidane. If Barca are smart, they should hijack Hazard, send Coutinho away, play him on the left side with Messi on the right.
Lets see the advice like this in the past

airmark:
I joined when busquets sluggishly entered the pitch. But if that's the case then you should buy krychowiak by summer.
airmark:
I am happy you confirmed what i have been saying about krychowiak. He is not perfect but he has all what most coaches look for in dm. Imagine barca having such player in the middle.
airmark:
barca buying krychowiak would have been a good business, selling busquets to psg . That guy is the best dm in the world right now.
airmark:
Hmmmmnn. Well let's see what psg will turn out to be next season in europe. That coach used rope to drag the boy to france. Only a fool will leave such excellent material behind.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 2:44pm On Mar 25, 2019
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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Eruditor: 3:22pm On Mar 25, 2019
airmark:
You will be disgraced.

He will be the one to retire Ronaldo and Messi permanently from that top 2, under Zidane. If Barca are smart, they should hijack Hazard, send Coutinho away, play him on the left side with Messi on the right.
The only thing I agree with is that Hazard will be more of an EV type player than Phillipe. Phillipe is a CAM not a LW or LWF so Hazard will be better on the wing but he is not productive enough to make a difference and he shakushakus just like Phillipe. Let him go to his RM and compete with Isco.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 3:24pm On Mar 25, 2019
airmark:
Though you are yet to defend that stupid statement that Hazard singlehandedly made Chelsea to concede 3 goals against atm, i hope you know that Van Dijk played ucl last season and made the team of the season. You always type rubbish.
My guy, shut up. How many UCL seasons has Van Dijk played before you start comparing him with his god(Pique)? Show us his team or individual titles and let's compare with Pique.

Every sensible person knows that Hazard's Ikebe dance led to the downfall of Chelsea in UCL semi final @ Stamford Bridge, and it did not happen once in that match.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by raumdeuter: 3:48pm On Mar 25, 2019
Chelsea crashed out in the semi-final when they were beaten 3-1 at Stamford Bridge - and two of the Spanish team's goals came down the side where Hazard was supposed to be protecting his full-back Ashley Cole.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/473698/Sacrificial-Slam-Mourinho-BLASTS-Hazard-for-Atletico-Madrid-defeat

But the Chelsea manager believes Hazard can still make more progress.

Mourinho added: "I'm not happy. I've tried to improve him all season."

“Against Atletico in Madrid, Willian played on the left side and Ashley Cole was protected all game. Against Liverpool, Andre Schurrle played on the left and a dangerous player like Glen Johnson was completely under control. Eden is the kind of player who is not so mentally ready to look back at his left-back and live his life for him. If you see Atletico's first goal, you understand where the mistake was and why we conceded that goal.


Mourinho said that he had spoken “all season” to Hazard in an effort to improve all aspects of his game and his preference for Cesar Azpilicueta over Ashley Cole at left-back has clearly been influenced by his reservations about the 23-year-old's team play. Hazard was also dropped for one game earlier in the season by Mourinho for missing a training session after he lost his passport and arrived back late from a trip to Belgium.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by biomustry: 4:45pm On Mar 25, 2019
Neymar1095:
Messi has not done shitt in Europe for more than 5 seasons and counting. All he does is stat pad against leganes and betis then disappears in the champions league.
more than 130 goals and assist in ucl, four titles...Psg 0 titles.






Messi>>>>PSG
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Isomerizm(m): 6:24pm On Mar 25, 2019
airmark:
Though you are yet to defend that stupid statement that Hazard singlehandedly made Chelsea to concede 3 goals against atm, i hope you know that Van Dijk played ucl last season and made the team of the season. You always type rubbish.
Which UCL did Van Dijk play last season?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by airmark(m): 6:31pm On Mar 25, 2019
raumdeuter:
Chelsea crashed out in the semi-final when they were beaten 3-1 at Stamford Bridge - and two of the Spanish team's goals came down the side where Hazard was supposed to be protecting his full-back Ashley Cole.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/473698/Sacrificial-Slam-Mourinho-BLASTS-Hazard-for-Atletico-Madrid-defeat

But the Chelsea manager believes Hazard can still make more progress.

Mourinho added: "I'm not happy. I've tried to improve him all season."

“Against Atletico in Madrid, Willian played on the left side and Ashley Cole was protected all game. Against Liverpool, Andre Schurrle played on the left and a dangerous player like Glen Johnson was completely under control. Eden is the kind of player who is not so mentally ready to look back at his left-back and live his life for him. If you see Atletico's first goal, you understand where the mistake was and why we conceded that goal.


Mourinho said that he had spoken “all season” to Hazard in an effort to improve all aspects of his game and his preference for Cesar Azpilicueta over Ashley Cole at left-back has clearly been influenced by his reservations about the 23-year-old's team play. Hazard was also dropped for one game earlier in the season by Mourinho for missing a training session after he lost his passport and arrived back late from a trip to Belgium.
So Messi lived his life for his right back? Salah lived his life for his right back. Later when we tell you Chelsea coaches limited Hazard numbers you would be talking nonsense. The same Mou that turned his striker to a left back just so not to concede goals. Later you will call Mou a poor coach. You are confused.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by airmark(m): 6:34pm On Mar 25, 2019
Isomerizm:
Which UCL did Van Dijk play last season?
grin
Debroslink and most of you guys don't watch other teams that's why we see funny views.

You can check. He was even picked in the team of the tournament.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by airmark(m): 6:38pm On Mar 25, 2019
Debroslink:
My guy, shut up. How many UCL seasons has Van Dijk played before you start comparing him with his god(Pique)? Show us his team or individual titles and let's compare with Pique.

Every sensible person knows that Hazard's Ikebe dance led to the downfall of Chelsea in UCL semi final @ Stamford Bridge, and it did not happen once in that match.
Only idiots will blame Hazard for those goals scored against us. I couldn't believe you could type that nonsense. Only Raumdeuter does that.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by raumdeuter: 6:42pm On Mar 25, 2019
airmark:
Only idiots will blame Hazard for those goals scored against us. I couldn't believe you could type that nonsense. Only Ramdeuter does that.
Mourinho who was Hazards coach blamed him for the goal, maybe it was ramdeuter who told him to blame Hazard
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by raumdeuter: 6:43pm On Mar 25, 2019
airmark:
So Messi lived his life for his right back? Salah lived his life for his right back. Later when we tell you Chelsea coaches limited Hazard numbers you would be talking nonsense. The same Mou that turned his striker to a left back just so not to concede goals. Later you will call Mou a poor coach. You are confused.
Hazard has played with 5 other coaches apart from Mourinho in Chelsea and has 4 CL goals from open lay
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by airmark(m): 6:43pm On Mar 25, 2019
Eruditor:
The only thing I agree with is that Hazard will be more of an EV type player than Phillipe. Phillipe is a CAM not a LW or LWF so Hazard will be better on the wing but he is not productive enough to make a difference and he shakushakus just like Phillipe. Let him go to his RM and compete with Isco.
He ain't competing with nobody. He will go into any team in the world and send the player on the left wing to the bench or another position.

Just as Rivaldo correctly stated, he would find laliga easier to express himself. Have enough in his tank to deliver.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by airmark(m): 6:46pm On Mar 25, 2019
raumdeuter:
Mourinho who was Hazards coach blamed him for the goal, maybe it was ramdeuter who told him to blame Hazard
Mou is known for barking the wrong tree. Maybe it was Hazard that made Etoo to commit the foul I'm the box. It was Hazard that made defenders to be ball watching.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by raumdeuter: 6:51pm On Mar 25, 2019
airmark:
Mou is known for barking the wrong tree. Maybe it was Hazard that made Etoo to commit the foul I'm the box. It was Hazard that made defenders to be ball watching.
You mean Hazards coach didn't know what his player was supposed to do on the field? But airmark knows

Etoo conceded 1 penalty, because etoo did, hazard is justified to eliminate his team?

Etoo won 3 CL in his career, how many has hidden won? hazard was responsible for 2 goals conceded the only time he made a CL semi
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by wman(m): 9:37pm On Mar 25, 2019
Asisat Oshoala and a fan from Argentina.

Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 9:47pm On Mar 25, 2019
"Cristiano Ronaldo suffers injury in Portugal's Euro 2020 qualifier against Serbia."
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 6:36am On Mar 26, 2019
Eruditor:
The only thing I agree with is that Hazard will be more of an EV type player than Phillipe. Phillipe is a CAM not a LW or LWF so Hazard will be better on the wing but he is not productive enough to make a difference and he shakushakus just like Phillipe. Let him go to his RM and compete with Isco.
oga no dey type all these things, please which team or teams did Coutinho play CAM for excluding Brazil? Have you seen how Ericksen and De Bruyne play CAM, they fall back and orchestrate play from BOTH wings, please tell me which team or match Coutinho played CAM in? All of Coutinho's best matches in Spain, Brazil and England have all come from the left so what are you saying?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 6:44am On Mar 26, 2019
Debroslink:
My guy, shut up. How many UCL seasons has Van Dijk played before you start comparing him with his god(Pique)? Show us his team or individual titles and let's compare with Pique.

Every sensible person knows that Hazard's Ikebe dance led to the downfall of Chelsea in UCL semi final @ Stamford Bridge, and it did not happen once in that match.
just say you dont like Hazard and stop the mis talk, if Hazard is so poor, teams like Madrid won't be falling over themselves to sign him. Ronaldo is exceptional, I prefer Messi sha, Salah is exceptianal, I don't like him, Pogba is exceptianal, I dont like him, I like Lukaku, you may not. It doesn't mean I'll start insulting him. Hazard is exceptional, simple. You mustn't like him.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Sommyroy10: 10:07am On Mar 26, 2019
IKON360:
oga no dey type all these things, please which team or teams did Coutinho play CAM for excluding Brazil? Have you seen how Ericksen and De Bruyne play CAM, they fall back and orchestrate play from BOTH wings, please tell me which team or match Coutinho played CAM in? All of Coutinho's best matches in Spain, Brazil and England have all come from the left so what are you saying?
Coutinho played majorly as a CAM in Vasco, Inter Milan and Espanyol. His early days at Liverpool he also played CAM, then was moved to the left, his last season at Liverpool and the season before (last month to campaign end) he played as a CM/CAM hybrid.
His best moment in his club career, with his best ever output was his last season at Liverpool where he played CM/CAM.
You already know in Brazil, if all players are available, he plays CAM, and just look at his performance at the world cup. Also Coutinho primary position is CAM, the rest are his secondary position whether he plays better there or not. It's just like Roberto.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 12:18pm On Mar 26, 2019
Sommyroy10:
Coutinho played majorly as a CAM in Vasco, Inter Milan and Espanyol. His early days at Liverpool he also played CAM, then was moved to the left, his last season at Liverpool and the season before (last month to campaign end) he played as a CM/CAM hybrid.
His best moment in his club career, with his best ever output was his last season at Liverpool where he played CM/CAM.
You already know in Brazil, if all players are available, he plays CAM, and just look at his performance at the world cup. Also Coutinho primary position is CAM, the rest are his secondary position whether he plays better there or not. It's just like Roberto.
thank you, Coutinho only played CAM in Liverpool after Sterling left, in Mane's 1st season, Coutinho played from the left of attack, not a line hugging winger but like half a winger exploiting the space between the right back and the Right center back. That's where he starred for Liverpool and won player of the year twice(or once?). When Mane and Salah flanked Firmino, Coutinho went a bit behind but was still operating from the left. In Inter was AM, but in Liverpool and Barca he has been operating from the left. When he joined us last year, he operated from the left and right more left sha but was ahead of Busi and Rakitic when we attacked or defended. In essence, if Hazard was to join us(impossible) he may be a far better winger than Coutinho, not because Hazard is enormously better than Coutinho but because Hazard's form might be more consistent
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Sommyroy10: 1:48pm On Mar 26, 2019
IKON360:
thank you, Coutinho only played CAM in Liverpool after Sterling left, in Mane's 1st season, Coutinho played from the left of attack, not a line hugging winger but like half a winger exploiting the space between the right back and the Right center back. That's where he starred for Liverpool and won player of the year twice(or once?). When Mane and Salah flanked Firmino, Coutinho went a bit behind but was still operating from the left. In Inter was AM, but in Liverpool and Barca he has been operating from the left. When he joined us last year, he operated from the left and right more left sha but was ahead of Busi and Rakitic when we attacked or defended. In essence, if Hazard was to join us(impossible) he may be a far better winger than Coutinho, not because Hazard is enormously better than Coutinho but because Hazard's form might be more consistent
Yes, I agree with you.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Eruditor: 3:07pm On Mar 26, 2019
Sommyroy10:
Coutinho played majorly as a CAM in Vasco, Inter Milan and Espanyol. His early days at Liverpool he also played CAM, then was moved to the left, his last season at Liverpool and the season before (last month to campaign end) he played as a CM/CAM hybrid.
His best moment in his club career, with his best ever output was his last season at Liverpool where he played CM/CAM.
You already know in Brazil, if all players are available, he plays CAM, and just look at his performance at the world cup. Also Coutinho primary position is CAM, the rest are his secondary position whether he plays better there or not. It's just like Roberto.
This is from a post on Quora. I am using just because it is saying everything I want to say:

When Coutinho became Barcelona’s club-record signing at 160 million Euros after a long, drawn out transfer saga, he was touted to be a replacement for Andres Iniesta. However, he is clearly not playing at that level and I feel it has got to do with not only himself or his position but with Ernesto Valverde as well.

Under Valverde, Iniesta generally played on the left flank in a 4–4–2 formation. This was different as compared to the position he played under Luis Enrique, generally in a CM position. This allowed him to do what he did best, control the tempo. However, playing on the left flank, he was generally underwhelming and his best performance probably came against Juventus in that game in the UCL. The left flank position also did not suit him as he was not in prime position to dictate play. He was also rested very frequently owing to his age and played almost half the games Barca played.

This made it clear that Barcelona needed an Iniesta replacement, an artist, someone who could control play and dictate tempo. Entrer, Coutinho.

Artist? Bruh he’s Brazilian. Check!

Dictates play and controls tempo? Liverpool’s best midfielder at that time so, Check?

Plays in a central position like Iniesta? Check!

Coutinho was ideal, or so it was thought. He played as a CAM in Liverpool and was instrumental in many of their wins.He could often be seen doing his thing, skilling past defenders and making the final ball for an assist or curling one in from an audacious postiton. He was an ideal CAM. He would have worked at that position at Barca too. But Barca do not play that way. they don’t need a CAM, and even if they do, Messi comes in from the right to take that place.

Thus, he was played at the left flank like Iniesta. This is where Barcelona fans were misled. They were led to believe Iniesta wasn’t working out because he is old. Nope! He just was not in a position where he played his best football. Similarly with Coutinho, he is either playing the left flank in a 4–4–2 or like against Sevilla in the Cup tie recently, he plays on the wings. He is not his best there and cannot do any of the things he is renowned for.

Coutinho needs to be in a central position to be his best version. From there, he can make amazing plays, feeding balls to attackers or himself can dribble up the pitch and maybe even shoot from distance and score. He needs to be at the forefront of every attacking play. But this will require either an injury to Rakitic or Arthur, Barcelona’s preferred central midfielders, or a complete formation shift where Coutinho plays a CAM with any 2 of Messi, Suarez and Dembele upfront. I don’t see either of the 2 happening and even if the former happens, De Jong is already on his way.

This leads me to believe Valverde did not have a say in the Coutinho transfer. Barcelona lost a high-profile player in Neymar. They needed to show that they can get another one and with Iniesta getting older, it became convenient to buy Coutinho. He would have never worked for Valverde’s tactics. Valverde would have rather bought someone similar to the Vidal or Paulinho profile with that kind of money.

It seems like the money has gone down the drain. The only good performances Coutinho puts in are because of his natural talent and skill where he fights against his unnatural position to put in bangers of performances. Unless Valverde changes his tactics or leaves altogether, I don’t see Coutinho working out. He will be “the most expensive substitute player”. For now though, his situation is panning out like another of Barcelona’s players, Andre Gomes. (So many botched decisions, Jesus!)

It’s just tragic, not only for him but for us fans, that we’re robbed of Coutinho’s magic. If Valverde continues, hopefully Barcelona sell him someplace where he can work his magic and Barcelona can salvage something out of a bad decision.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Eruditor: 3:16pm On Mar 26, 2019
IKON360:
oga no dey type all these things, please which team or teams did Coutinho play CAM for excluding Brazil? Have you seen how Ericksen and De Bruyne play CAM, they fall back and orchestrate play from BOTH wings, please tell me which team or match Coutinho played CAM in? All of Coutinho's best matches in Spain, Brazil and England have all come from the left so what are you saying?
My problem with you is how you brandish rubbish with utmost confidence. When did you see De Bruyne play CAM last? All of whose best matches have come from where?

I won't even waste my time.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Eruditor: 3:18pm On Mar 26, 2019
Sommyroy10:
Coutinho played majorly as a CAM in Vasco, Inter Milan and Espanyol. His early days at Liverpool he also played CAM, then was moved to the left, his last season at Liverpool and the season before (last month to campaign end) he played as a CM/CAM hybrid.
His best moment in his club career, with his best ever output was his last season at Liverpool where he played CM/CAM.
You already know in Brazil, if all players are available, he plays CAM, and just look at his performance at the world cup. Also Coutinho primary position is CAM, the rest are his secondary position whether he plays better there or not. It's just like Roberto.
That is why I referred that post to you. You actually know what you are talking about.
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