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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by oz4real83(m): 3:30pm On Mar 26, 2019
Nevee:

Estimated billing is not illegal. In fact, it is recommended and approved by the sector's regulatory body. But Government wouldn't tell you that, they want everyone to keep using the DISCOs as a shield for their gross in incompetence. If it were illegal, why haven't they penalized any DISCO for it? Government should come out and tell us the truth, we are tired of the blame-games.
gbajabiamila was proposing a bill criminalising estimated bill,the power minister made the above statement during that time. Estimated billing is criminal but there is no punishment for it in our constitution.

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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by 4gunners(m): 3:35pm On Mar 26, 2019
Discos are just scamming the citizenry. They're so scared of metering rather they prefer estimated billing. Scammers everywhere... You no go provide light but want to rake in money...

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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by ransomed: 3:43pm On Mar 26, 2019
Withdraw their ungodly licences and terminate their extortive contracts please.

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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by otokx(m): 3:44pm On Mar 26, 2019
I knew the DISCOS were lying

When MTN gives you a SIM card, you can buy any type of phone but for electricity even if you buy any type of prepaid meter, the DISCOS will have to integrate that meter into its network.

NERC should go beyond this to tell us the framework and policy covering meter, currently one of my colleagues meters refused to work and he has called PHED to no avail. Typical of Nigerian offices they referred him to Obi Wali then to Garden City New at Eliozu and finally they sent him to Moscow road, despite all the letters he wrote, it is going to 3 months without electricity in his flat. The policy we understand says if your meter is faulty the DISCO will connect you directly to the pole and charge you a nominal fee not exceeding what you normally pay for until such a time as the issue is rectified but alas this people keep frustrating the young man and his family.

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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by Mdk2019: 3:55pm On Mar 26, 2019
Who has the responsibility to provide transformer in this country?
Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by kikake: 3:59pm On Mar 26, 2019
NaijaRoyalty:
Everybody dodging from his responsibility in this Buhari governement .

You wonder why the country is in such a sorry state .

As they pass the buck, the DISCOS milk poor consumers dry from community billing.

Who knows who gets shares from money extorted from communities from community billing system?

They say they are fighting corruption in Nigeria, whereas community billing is legalized corruption.

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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by abututony(m): 4:02pm On Mar 26, 2019
All those attacking APC are not only novice but are sympathisers to the corrupt lords who milked us dry.Is it APC that sold the NEPA to their cronnies.Were u seeing light prior to 2015?

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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by eagleeye2: 4:11pm On Mar 26, 2019
The blame game continues
Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by chilltoo(m): 4:21pm On Mar 26, 2019
Who are the Discos.. God knows them

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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by Nevee: 4:31pm On Mar 26, 2019
Aolconsult:

You've displayed little understanding of the power sector.

In 2013 precisely 1st November, President Goodluck Jonathan privatized the Gencos and Discos, then retained only Transmission Company of Nigeria.

From 2013 to May, 2015 the Gencos and Discos realized that they have no idea of power Generation and Distribution, but ran into debts over poor management.

Fashola became the Minister and the Gencos and Discos cried for intervention. Buhari approved a refund of what they paid to Government under Jonathan to be given to them as loan/support. Despite that, they're still under performing.

Infact government has refunded their monies back

How's this the problem of Buhari or this administration? Why not call Jonathan that privatized and handed over power sector to people who have no idea of how stuff works?

Lol I appreciate your reply, really because I had hitherto contemplated opening a thread where we all could discuss and proffer solutions to problems of the sector. Nonetheless, let me quickly make some corrections. First I blamed the government in my post (both present and past), not only the present.

Some DISCOs in Nigeria inherited over 80 billion naira in debt accumulated by who? And when you assess these debt profiles today, they have been greatly reduced. You may also wish that a major part of the debts are being owed by Government ministries, departments and agencies who believe they shouldn't be paying electricity bills and till this very moment, they have not been paid and you know what? They'd let you know you can never disconnect them. Note that these bills would have been factored into their annual budget and still, they won't pay. So how have the DISCOs run into debt? Go through the NERC website, there is a modeled assumption of the performance of DISCOs over the next 10 years right from privatization that DISCOs would make a loss consistently over 10 years and we are just in the 5th year. May I ask why government itself made such assumptions for DISCOs? Have a look at the investments and tell me you would be willing to run at such loss despite such investments? How can you buy gas to produce electricity at 360 naira per dollar and at the point of selling, government pegs tariff at an assumption at 120 naira per dollar? How please? When some persons are quick to say Ghana enjoys constant power supply, I ask them to have a look at electricity tariffs in Ghana which is about double of Nigeria's before making such comparisons? But you still say DISCOs ran into debt? Lol.

Please which monies did government refund back? It seems you rely too much on the information some of these compromised and politicized media outlets feed you. Even the 100 billion naira intervention fund government promised DISCOs in the privatization contract has not been fulfilled as I type this. Not even one naira. Get your facts right sir.

Maybe companies knowledgeable about the power sector you made reference to ran from such huge rot on the power sector. But then again, how much knowledge did Adenuga had about the Telecoms sector before government gave him an operating license?

If you'd exonerate the present government from problems of the Power sector, why is it finding it had to do that which is right? To come up with practical solutions? Why?

P.S. Don't forget government still has a huge 40% Holdings and control of the DISCOs but when it comes to accepting responsibilities, them go hide face grin

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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by Nevee: 4:35pm On Mar 26, 2019
oz4real83:
gbajabiamila was proposing a bill criminalising estimated bill,the power minister made the above statement during that time. Estimated billing is criminal but there is no punishment for it in our constitution.
Thoughtful comment right there. One would think government would quickly take up such proposed bills to stop such estimated billings. Why are they finding it hard to effect it? Lol, please mark my words, it won't happen now and the government knows it. That is why I am saying we citizens should challenge the government to tell us the truth about happenings in this sector so we can find a way forward. We are tired of the blame games.

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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by Nobody: 4:37pm On Mar 26, 2019
oz4real83:
As long as fashola continue to be the power minister,the illegal estimated billing will continue because according to him ''criminalising estimated billing will erode the gain in the power sector and will discourage investments in the power sector''. If the person at the helm of affairs at the ministry of power has this mindset,there is no hope of having pre-paid meters.

Fashola is a well known established thief! He is learning from his bourdillion mentor
Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by samlake(m): 4:44pm On Mar 26, 2019
Yeye people!
Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by olaolaking: 5:09pm On Mar 26, 2019
Nevee:
If only NERC and the government would tell the truth to the public about the mess they created in the power sector that the DISCOs are now trying to clean up. It's really not a good time most of the DISCOs, bad business something grin. No wonder most of them are saying they are not doing again and that they are ready to collect their money back even if it is at a discount.

If metering was that easy, why didn't government meter everyone when they still had major control before privatization? Scam government!
The government that did the privatization did a bad job.
Atiku and Co. Many things were ignore

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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by Sluvist(m): 5:16pm On Mar 26, 2019
Just imagine the level of confusing confusion that those DISCOS and NERC are into when it comes to doing the right thing, the money sharing formulae is intact with no issue arises there, non of them get confused when the time reach to collects money from the masses.

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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by darlenese(f): 5:24pm On Mar 26, 2019
I see.
I paid 50k for a prepaid meter, it's been 2 months already, useless government
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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by Housing(m): 5:33pm On Mar 26, 2019
Nevee:
If only NERC and the government would tell the truth to the public about the mess they created in the power sector that the DISCOs are now trying to clean up. It's really not a good time most of the DISCOs, bad business something grin. No wonder most of them are saying they are not doing again and that they are ready to collect their money back even if it is at a discount.

If metering was that easy, why didn't government meter everyone when they still had major control before privatization? Scam government!

After Discos said it will took over 5 more years to close the metering gap. The Discos source and licensed 121 reputable firms capable of providing meters. It is left to the Discos to and a metering Services Agreement with those firm and specify the way the energy consumers are to be metered. The said meter will be paid through amortization for a period of ten years. As the cost of the meter and metering services would have bee factored into the tariff rate for the prepaid meters. So invariably it is still the Discos that will provide meters.

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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by Nevee: 6:24pm On Mar 26, 2019
Housing:


After Discos said it will took over 5 more years to close the metering gap. The Discos source and licensed 121 reputable firms capable of providing meters. It is left to the Discos to and a metering Services Agreement with those firm and specify the way the energy consumers are to be metered. The said meter will be paid through amortization for a period of ten years. As the cost of the meter and metering services would have bee factored into the tariff rate for the prepaid meters. So invariably it is still the Discos that will provide meters.
Sadly, the government is giving the DISCOs a condition to meter all customers before it can make tariffs cost reflective.
Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by Nevee: 6:25pm On Mar 26, 2019
olaolaking:
The government that did the privatization did a bad job.
Atiku and Co. Many things were ignore
Honestly bro
Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by nickxtra(m): 7:00pm On Mar 26, 2019
Nevee:

Estimated billing is not illegal. In fact, it is recommended and approved by the sector's regulatory body. But Government wouldn't tell you that, they want everyone to keep using the DISCOs as a shield for their gross in incompetence. If it were illegal, why haven't they penalized any DISCO for it? Government should come out and tell us the truth, we are tired of the blame-games.
A bill was recently passed by the House of Representatives criminalising estimated Bills, but yet to be passed by the Senate and the President's assent.
Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by nickxtra(m): 7:06pm On Mar 26, 2019
Nevee:

Lol I appreciate your reply, really because I had hitherto contemplated opening a thread where we all could discuss and proffer solutions to problems of the sector. Nonetheless, let me quickly make some corrections. First I blamed the government in my post (both present and past), not only the present.

Some DISCOs in Nigeria inherited over 80 billion naira in debt accumulated by who? And when you assess these debt profiles today, they have been greatly reduced. You may also wish that a major part of the debts are being owed by Government ministries, departments and agencies who believe they shouldn't be paying electricity bills and till this very moment, they have not been paid and you know what? They'd let you know you can never disconnect them. Note that these bills would have been factored into their annual budget and still, they won't pay. So how have the DISCOs run into debt? Go through the NERC website, there is a modeled assumption of the performance of DISCOs over the next 10 years right from privatization that DISCOs would make a loss consistently over 10 years and we are just in the 5th year. May I ask why government itself made such assumptions for DISCOs? Have a look at the investments and tell me you would be willing to run at such loss despite such investments? How can you buy gas to produce electricity at 360 naira per dollar and at the point of selling, government pegs tariff at an assumption at 120 naira per dollar? How please? When some persons are quick to say Ghana enjoys constant power supply, I ask them to have a look at electricity tariffs in Ghana which is about double of Nigeria's before making such comparisons? But you still say DISCOs ran into debt? Lol.

Please which monies did government refund back? It seems you rely too much on the information some of these compromised and politicized media outlets feed you. Even the 100 billion naira intervention fund government promised DISCOs in the privatization contract has not been fulfilled as I type this. Not even one naira. Get your facts right sir.

Maybe companies knowledgeable about the power sector you made reference to ran from such huge rot on the power sector. But then again, how much knowledge did Adenuga had about the Telecoms sector before government gave him an operating license?

If you'd exonerate the present government from problems of the Power sector, why is it finding it had to do that which is right? To come up with practical solutions? Why?

P.S. Don't forget government still has a huge 40% Holdings and control of the DISCOs but when it comes to accepting responsibilities, them go hide face grin
From the bolded as captured in your statement, I can see your intentions for the write-up are propelled by falsehood and psychophancy

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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by buhariguy(m): 7:17pm On Mar 26, 2019
NaijaRoyalty:
Everybody dodging from his responsibility in this Buhari governement .

You wonder why the country is in such a sorry state .
is that what you understand from what you posted,
you will not read before posting,

nerc said MAPs will now be in charge,
so that discos can concentrate in other core area.
Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by NaijaRoyalty(m): 7:21pm On Mar 26, 2019
buhariguy:
[s]is that what you understand from what you posted,
you will not read before posting,

nerc said MAPs will now be in charge,
so that discos can concentrate in other core area.[/s]

.

Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by CioAngels(f): 7:40pm On Mar 26, 2019
After they habe stolen the masses dry, they want to runaway. They can't run but vomit all they have stolen from the poor masses before their punishment meets them at their exit point.
Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by Tareq1105: 7:51pm On Mar 26, 2019
freeze001:
Before we know, this will be the sole reason why APC and co failed to improve power generation and distribution. Everyone shirking their responsibilities..hmmmm

What about your PDP Jonathan government that sold distribution to their friends who doesn't have capacity to deliver?

You're blaming Buhari. Go and confirm the names of the people that Jonathan sold these distribution companies to before you start blaming Buhari.
Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by CofOLandOfPeace(m): 8:01pm On Mar 26, 2019
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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by Tareq1105: 8:02pm On Mar 26, 2019
chilltoo:
Who are the Discos.. Obasanjo, Atiku and the likes, and what do u expect from such if not failure

Including Abdulsalam.

Jonathan sold it to them just to please them but they still kicked him out of Aso Rock.

Greedy leaders who will not escape the judgement of God.

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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by laudate: 11:36pm On Mar 26, 2019
Nevee:

Estimated billing is not illegal. In fact, it is recommended and approved by the sector's regulatory body. But Government wouldn't tell you that, they want everyone to keep using the DISCOs as a shield for their gross in incompetence. If it were illegal, why haven't they penalized any DISCO for it? Government should come out and tell us the truth, we are tired of the blame-games.
Stop supporting govt's attempt at extortion, by claiming that estimated billing is not illegal. Even if there is a law supporting it, such a practice is still an undercover method of cheating people. And such a law, is an unjust law! Why should you force people to pay for electricity units they have not consumed? shocked

In another country that respects its citizens and the rule of law, their govt compelled a public utility company to payback citizens it had overcharged. undecided

In Nigeria, the govt empowers public utilities to cheat the poor helpless citizens. angry

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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by laudate: 11:41pm On Mar 26, 2019
ladman:
I knew something was fishy when Discos announced there were no longer in charge of metering. MAP is just there to help the discos achieve metering all over Nigeria.

It makes more sense.
Which MAP? Call any of those private companies producing pre-paid meters today that you want to buy one under the MAP scheme, and they would still refer you back to the Discos, claiming they cannot sell to you directly.

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Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by ladman(m): 12:22am On Mar 27, 2019
laudate:

Which MAP? Call any of those private companies producing pre-paid meters today that you want to buy one under the MAP scheme, and they would still refer you back to the Discos, claiming they cannot sell to you directly.

We are saying the same thing. MAP ought not to sell it to you. You should get your meter from the discos.
Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by laudate: 12:31am On Mar 27, 2019
ladman:
We are saying the same thing. MAP ought not to sell it to you. You should get your meter from the discos.
Do you even understand what MAP is all about? It was meant to make it easy for the end user to get the pre-paid meter, without being subjected to the delay and haphazard stress of the Discos. The original ideology behind MAP was to decentralise the deployment of prepaid meters. So why subject the end user to the delay of the Discos again, if MAP is truly functional?
Re: Metering Is Your Responsibility, NERC Fires Back At Discos by ladman(m): 6:25am On Mar 27, 2019
laudate:

Do you even understand what MAP is all about? It was meant to make it easy for the end user to get the pre-paid meter, without being subjected to the delay and haphazard stress of the Discos. The original ideology behind MAP was to decentralise the deployment of prepaid meters. So why subject the end user to the delay of the Discos again, if MAP is truly functional?

MAP was designed to work with discos by taking over the funding and purchasing of meters and working with discos on installation, and getting back their investment. Find out more abt the regulations, but one of the main provisions about MAP is that:

The eleven (11) electricity distribution companies are expected to, within 120 days from the effective date of the regulation; engage the services of MAPs towards the achievement of their 3-year metering targets prescribed by the Commission. (NERC press release)

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