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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JUO(m): 2:57pm On Mar 29, 2019
earthrealm:


wow,long time bro...you have been scarce.
only 4.5yrs, i tot these guys were indesturctible....not much difference btw them and smf
did they just die suddenly, or a gradual reduction in storage?. did you try draining all the electrolyte, flushing the internals with clean water, refilling with good electrolyte and charge??

yeah solar biz in naija is not that profitable, with 10 to 20% markup in prices, having to replace just 1 battery will wipe out all your profit, if care is not taken. and battery waranty is an iffy issue... cos the user may have abused it knowingly or out of ignorance, and blame you if it fails .you may consider listing out the equipment and let the client go buy them himself, and you charge a flat fee for installation
I think the flooded battery was overhyped. For me I will not have anything to do with any flooded battery or wet cell. I understand your pain Abu
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by samnaija: 3:27pm On Mar 29, 2019
JUO:
I think the flooded battery was overhyped. For me I will not have anything to do with any flooded battery or wet cell. I understand your pain Abu

pls share ur xperience before person enter one chance. tnk in advance abu and juo..it will go a long way.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Ativ: 8:13pm On Mar 29, 2019
Oshomo12:


I use them, installed two sets. The batteries are very good. So far, they beat the ones I have seen.
Thanks for your sincere review.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Oshomo12(m): 8:32pm On Mar 29, 2019
earthrealm:


i wish they came in 6v 500ah or higher, the 6v 385ah @20hr is a lil below my needs, the 20hr rating is a marketing gimmick, why didnt they use the conventional 10hr rating,
who knows the onversion to 10hr rating,??

They have higher ones but I think is in 2v, 20hr rating is what most of the manufacturer use. I want to believe they have a particular one rated 10hr
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tsiriman(m): 12:13am On Mar 30, 2019
Hello house I am planning to install an inverter in my house. I want a pure sine wave 48V inverter.

Please help suggest the best 3.5kva and 5kva 48V inverters,
Also which gel battery is the best available here in Nigeria.
I plan to install the inverter with 4 batteries then later connects solar panels and add 4 more batteries.

Help please.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by themonk(m): 2:06am On Mar 30, 2019
Hello guys,

How much should be budgeted for the best solar system to power

1.5 hp AC
42" Television
A Fridge
About 4 light bulbs
A few other appliances like laptops, phones, music sytem etc?

Thanks in anticipation of your input.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bigrovar(m): 7:13am On Mar 30, 2019
JUO:
I think the flooded battery was overhyped. For me I will not have anything to do with any flooded battery or wet cell. I understand your pain Abu
Yes o, especially in Nigeria where there are often imported dry and then filled with "distilled" water by the merchant and subsequently sit idle in the wearhouse/shop until they are sold (in many instance at a longer than recommended partial state of charge leading to surlphation). Even at the best of conditions I have come to realise flooded batteries are not the best for offgrid use. Their low charge and discharge rate means you are unable to take advantage of the less than 5 hours peak sun time... unlike AGM which has ability to fast charge and can take close to 30% of it's rated capacity i.e a 100AH AGM can be charged at 30A while the flooded equivalent most not be charged at more than 13% or 13A to avoid damage. The periodic equalization and distilled water topping adds and extra layer of maintenance that becomes a chore especially if you have them in numbers exceeding 2.. Not many inverters supports equalization.

Flooded does have its advantages, their are cheap, quite robust and can be easily diagnosed for problems.. they can also take some level of beating. Unfortunately from my experience, their advantages is seriously out weighed by their disadvantages

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DMerciful(m): 7:14am On Mar 30, 2019
Better to buy all batteries at a go! Do not mix old and new batteries!
tsiriman:
Hello house I am planning to install an inverter in my house. I want a pure sine wave 48V inverter.

Please help suggest the best 3.5kva and 5kva 48V inverters,
Also which gel battery is the best available here in Nigeria.
I plan to install the inverter with 4 batteries then later connects solar panels and add 4 more batteries.

Help please.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zeestone99(m): 9:21am On Mar 30, 2019
tsiriman:
Hello house I am planning to install an inverter in my house. I want a pure sine wave 48V inverter.

Please help suggest the best 3.5kva and 5kva 48V inverters,
Also which gel battery is the best available here in Nigeria.
I plan to install the inverter with 4 batteries then later connects solar panels and add 4 more batteries.

Help please.

U dnt v solar n u want to use gel, dnt try it, bad market.

Jst buy my quanta... Only 125k
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zeestone99(m): 9:24am On Mar 30, 2019
Damolux01:
I need help with a reputable company, agency or individual that can take me through the nitty gritty of solar inverter installation. I recently imported some Solar kits which I've been selling. A lots of people want me to help them install too. Thanks!

Let us do ur installations for you.

Call/whatapp 08117398294 or email Info@monzpowersolutions.com
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zeestone99(m): 9:24am On Mar 30, 2019
themonk:
Hello guys,

How much should be budgeted for the best solar system to power

1.5 hp AC
42" Television
A Fridge
About 4 light bulbs
A few other appliances like laptops, phones, music sytem etc?

Thanks in anticipation of your input.


Bros jst get ready for 6kw pv installation
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zeestone99(m): 9:27am On Mar 30, 2019
Brand new prag 4kw 24v inverter available, jst one unit 220k

Call/whatapp 08117398294 to order
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zeestone99(m): 9:28am On Mar 30, 2019
themonk:
Hello guys,

How much should be budgeted for the best solar system to power

1.5 hp AC
42" Television
A Fridge
About 4 light bulbs
A few other appliances like laptops, phones, music sytem etc?

Thanks in anticipation of your input.


Call/whatapp 08117398294 for quote
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by justdogitto: 9:30am On Mar 30, 2019
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tsiriman:
Hello house I am planning to install an inverter in my house. I want a pure sine wave 48V inverter.

Please help suggest the best 3.5kva and 5kva 48V inverters,
Also which gel battery is the best available here in Nigeria.
I plan to install the inverter with 4 batteries then later connects solar panels and add 4 more batteries.

Help please.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by justdogitto: 9:34am On Mar 30, 2019
please check my signature
themonk:
Hello guys,

How much should be budgeted for the best solar system to power

1.5 hp AC
42" Television
A Fridge
About 4 light bulbs
A few other appliances like laptops, phones, music sytem etc?

Thanks in anticipation of your input.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by adrusa: 12:20pm On Mar 30, 2019
Hello my people,
Does anyone who has used outback FM 60 or 80 has any experience with Fangpusun clones? I have a setup with an Outback FM80 and a Midnite Classic 150. Sometimes, either of the CC go into float while one is still in bulk. So, I'm tempted to buy another outback hoping that two outbacks will work together better. But, I was wondering if I should buy the cheaper Fangpusun since they appear to be 1:1 clone of outback. Any thoughts is appreciated.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by 4llerbuntu(m): 12:34pm On Mar 30, 2019
You guys must be smiling with this crazy sunlight/heat right now.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 1:28pm On Mar 30, 2019
PROMO! PROMO!!!

CANADIAN SOLAR PANELS
270w poly .......N48,000
300w mono .... N52,000
330w poly .......N57,500
340w mono.....N80,000

SOLARWORLD "made in Germany" 340w mono ... N85,000

Contact,
Smartcellglobal services,
081-350-31951
WHATSAPP::: https:///2348170385620

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 6:10pm On Mar 30, 2019
Amen and so be it!!!

My US Battery L16s showed me pepper. They chugged along happily for the first year with near zero need to top off water and never falling below 50% DoD

Then in year two, they started showing weak cells randomly and running hot, I would treat one weak cell today and the weakness would show up in another battery's cell the next week. My fingers were all peeled & flaking off at the edges with my regular interaction with battery electrolyte.

When I saw that these batteries were consuming more care and attention than my beloved madam, I quietly sold them off and went back to sealed batteries.

No regrets ever since. Nearly 2 years now and counting.


bigrovar:
Yes o, especially in Nigeria where there are often imported dry and then filled with "distilled" water by the merchant and subsequently sit idle in the wearhouse/shop until they are sold (in many instance at a longer than recommended partial state of charge leading to surlphation). Even at the best of conditions I have come to realise flooded batteries are not the best for offgrid use. Their low charge and discharge rate means you are unable to take advantage of the less than 5 hours peak sun time... unlike AGM which has ability to fast charge and can take close to 30% of it's rated capacity i.e a 100AH AGM can be charged at 30A while the flooded equivalent most not be charged at more than 13% or 13A to avoid damage. The periodic equalization and distilled water topping adds and extra layer of maintenance that becomes a chore especially if you have them in numbers exceeding 2.. Not many inverters supports equalization.

Flooded does have its advantages, their are cheap, quite robust and can be easily diagnosed for problems.. they can also take some level of beating. Unfortunately from my experience, their advantages is seriously out weighed by their disadvantages

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by samnaija: 7:06pm On Mar 30, 2019
guys this is a big revelation on flooded. na to maintain with sealed battery I almost ported. thanks for all the heads up

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bigrovar(m): 8:18pm On Mar 30, 2019
4llerbuntu:
You guys must be smiling with this crazy sunlight/heat right now.

Last time I spoke to Juo about the heat.. his response was "what heat?" I can not even begin to imagine how people are coping.. My friends keeps reminding me that the weather is not getting cooler
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 9:43pm On Mar 30, 2019
kiekie1:
PROMO! PROMO!!!

CANADIAN SOLAR PANELS
270w poly .......N48,000
300w mono .... N52,000
330w poly .......N57,500
340w mono.....N80,000

SOLARWORLD "made in Germany" 340w mono ... N85,000

Contact,
Smartcellglobal services,
081-350-31951
WHATSAPP::: https:///2348170385620

900 watts mono is just 156K
Then why should one but 680 watts mono for 160k ?

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 6:24am On Mar 31, 2019
The 340watts panels are rather steeply priced on here. If you own them, you can put it on your profile that you use Solar World, a premium 'made in Germany' panel grin

People will see it and be green with envy and be in awe of your solar greatness.

Something Oga Dapsyra has said and a lot of other folks here - Price vs Performance - very key something.


When a 340watt Solar World panel with just 13% more power than a 300watt Canadian Solar panel costs 60% more, one really needs to find that/those extra benefits to justify the price premium between two Tier 1 panels.

In my analyst career, we say that a deal is only a good deal if you pay less for the deal than it is actually worth. If not, you should be indifferent and walk away.

I am yet to see Canadian Solar 340watts in use locally though so price lists may be just for marketing/padding. Would be good for any actual users of 340watts panels to give us their user reviews


Dam5reey:


900 watts mono is just 156K
Then why should one buy 680 watts mono for 160k ?

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 6:44am On Mar 31, 2019
So the upgrade/expansion bug bit me and I helped myself to an additional 12 units of 300w Canadian Solar Panels out of the 'for sale' inventory I carry. So I now have a 11Kw PV array to play with but need roof space to mount.

I want to sell off my 300w Flames panels to anyone who is interested - I will only sell 12 units at a go please and I'm open to all reasonable offers.

I tried so hard to resist this temptation o but in the end I succumbed. tongue

I still carry brand new Canadian Solar 300w modules at a good price - 52K apiece

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by nonoski: 10:59am On Mar 31, 2019
adrusa:
Hello my people,
Does anyone who has used outback FM 60 or 80 has any experience with Fangpusun clones? I have a setup with an Outback FM80 and a Midnite Classic 150. Sometimes, either of the CC go into float while one is still in bulk. So, I'm tempted to buy another outback hoping that two outbacks will work together better. But, I was wondering if I should buy the cheaper Fangpusun since they appear to be 1:1 clone of outback . Any thoughts is appreciated.

Don't waste ur money continue to use ur system the way it is.

I currently have 2 Outback Flexmax 80, they are both connected to 600AH 48v battery battery bank.

1 of the Outback (CC1) is connected to a 4.5kw solar array
While the 2nd (CC2) is connected to a 2.25kw solar array.

CC1 usually goes into absorb by 1pm and then float while CC2 continues on bulk all day long embarassed

I reduced the settings on CC2 slightly so now it goes into absorb some hrs after CC1 goes into absorb.

I have decided to leave it at that.

Ps: u can't compare Outback performance to Fangpusun even duh they look alike

Attached is a picture of log from 5 days ago

Pic 2 is CC1
Pic 3 is CC2

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 1:45pm On Mar 31, 2019
@nonoski, what are the cons of the outback flexman, what should a potential buyer beware of?, have you used another tier 1 cc, like morning star, how does the outback compare against them?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by adrusa: 2:19pm On Mar 31, 2019
nonoski:


Don't waste ur money continue to use ur system the way it is.

I currently have 2 Outback Flexmax 80, they are both connected to 600AH 48v battery battery bank.

1 of the Outback (CC1) is connected to a 4.5kw solar array
While the 2nd (CC2) is connected to a 2.25kw solar array.

CC1 usually goes into absorb by 1pm and then float while CC2 continues on bulk all day long embarassed

I reduced the settings on CC2 slightly so now it goes into absorb some hrs after CC1 goes into absorb.

I have decided to leave it at that.

Ps: u can't compare Outback performance to Fangpusun even duh they look alike

Attached is a picture of log from 5 days ago

Pic 2 is CC1
Pic 3 is CC2

Thanks for your response.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by adrusa: 2:27pm On Mar 31, 2019
earthrealm:
@nonoski, what are the cons of the outback flexman, what should a potential buyer beware of?, have you used another tier 1 cc, like morning star, how does the outback compare against them?

I started my solar journey with Morningstar Tristar MPPT 60A. I stopped using them after losing two back to back. First one was my fault. I was working on my system one afternoon with blazing sun. I did not realise that I must connect battery to the Tristar before connecting the PV. So, I connected the PV and the Tristar gave me the magic smoke and fire. It was burnt. So, I put money together and bought a replacement. By then I have learnt my lesson, except the part of the syllabus I did not cover. So, one evening, my house was struck by lightning. The Tristar went out, along with a Must Inverter.

Since then, I have stayed away from Morningstar and cut over to Outback and Midnite Classic which have served me well for many years now. I also got some lightning protector devices.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by nonoski: 2:31pm On Mar 31, 2019
earthrealm:
@nonoski, what are the cons of the outback flexman, what should a potential buyer beware of?, have you used another tier 1 cc, like morning star, how does the outback compare against them?

Other than the loud fan noise I doubt there's any cons for the Outback. It's been that way for 13months with no human interference needed.

I also have a Fangpusun flexmax 60A mounted in same vicinity with 2kw solar array but the output is slightly less than the Outback, if u add the cumulative output then I will go with Outback.

I also have a Victron 250/100 mounted in my village house, that one is a class on its own.
I monitor its output every day remotely

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 2:46pm On Mar 31, 2019
nonoski:


Other than the loud fan noise I doubt there's any cons for the Outback. It's been that way for 13months with no human interference needed.

I also have a Fangpusun flexmax 60A mounted in same vicinity with 2kw solar array but the output is slightly less than the Outback, if u add the cumulative output then I will go with Outback.

I also have a Victron 250/100 mounted in my village house, that one is a class on its own.
I monitor its output every day remotely

thanks for the concise analysis, am a morning star fan, but i also lost one due to high pv array..i guess, the loud fan noise, is it on everytime the cc is on, or its controlled by a temp sensor, and comes on intermittently, how loud is the noise?, could you sleep in a rm with the cc installed there?, is the fan as loud as mustpower inverter fan?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by nonoski: 2:53pm On Mar 31, 2019
earthrealm:


thanks for the concise analysis, am a morning star fan, but i also lost one due to high pv array..i guess, the loud fan noise, is it on everytime the cc is on, or its controlled by a temp sensor, and comes on intermittently, how loud is the noise?, could you sleep in a rm with the cc installed there?, is the fan as loud as mustpower inverter fan?
Well with tym u get use to the noise.
I have 2 Outback CC and a 5kva Must power inverter
Imagine the noise when they all come on at almost same time.

The fans usually come on when the there's a sharp increase in pv output or when the pv output is high. In fact I use the noise of the fan to know when the sun is at full blast

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 5:12pm On Mar 31, 2019
Good evening everyone and wish everyone a fruitful new month ahead.
Please i want to know if anyone have got used 100-200W solar panel for sale..... i need for urgent buy and at affordable price. Thanks.
DM or a reply to this message is appreciated.

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