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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamrosheed: 5:01pm On Apr 01, 2019
popizaino:



So you opine we should keep sarri or what ?
Sarri and our last coach didn't have the set of players to play their attacking football and defensive football respectively, if Sarri get sacked the next coach will either be an attacking minded coach or a defensive minded coach, the players will perform for a while just like they did under sarri due to motivation or to get on good terms with the coach and that's a short term fix because in three to four month these set of players will get comfortable with the coach and that's it!! We are back to square 1, City spent 52M euros on Bernado and we spent 64M euros on Pulisic same role but a wide margin in ability, the main problem is the clueless board that signs player that are not good enough for CFC?
Come to think of it How many Chelsea footballers got into the starting eleven of their Country in the last internationals? Many of them were not called up as a matter of fact it just shows that these set of players are not good enough...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Theflint1(m): 5:13pm On Apr 01, 2019
raumdeuter:


WHo is the German player behind Boateng and how close is he to the Argentine

In the scenario below if Boateng missed that tackle how will the guy on the left not have a free shot on goal

Boateng miss the tackle and it becomes 2vs 1 or even 3 vs 1

But being a top defender he went for his man unlike VVD who was backing off his man like a coward

A player this far ahead of everybody cannot give chase if Boateng missed the tackle?

Boateng did what most defenders would do knowing he is covered... anything short of this is amateur defending.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:27pm On Apr 01, 2019
Theflint1:


A player this far ahead of everybody cannot give chase if Boateng missed the tackle?

Boateng did what most defenders would do knowing he is covered... anything short of this is amateur defending.

VVD refused to tackle he was backing away maybe to preserve his not dribbled stat and allowed Sisokko a free shot on target

Boateng in a world cup final did not back away he tackled the attacker

This is another defender who went for the guy with the ball and wasnt backing away from the ball carrier like VVD



Sisokkos incompentence is now tagged as VVDs excellence
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by alexie4real(m): 5:31pm On Apr 01, 2019
NNAMDIII:
Gambler
nnamdi wetin i do na grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:33pm On Apr 01, 2019
popizaino:


If my memory serves me right I think this should be last 2 seasons under ancelotti.They still played Madrid under jupp heckynes last season which was more recent .

Madrid didn't destroy Bayern last season. The last time they were destroyed, Boathand defended like Isaac Semitoje against Marcelo.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Theflint1(m): 5:41pm On Apr 01, 2019
How can that defender possibly back away when he's running from behind the player grin grin grin

VVD's decision for that tackle was nothing short of genius especially since it worked
raumdeuter:


VVD refused to tackle he was backing away maybe to preserve his not dribbled stat and allowed Sisokko a free shot on target

Boateng in a world cup final did not back away he tackled the attacker

This is another defender who went for the guy with the ball and wasnt backing away from the ball carrier like VVD



Sisokkos incompentence is now tagged as VVDs excellence

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 6:25pm On Apr 01, 2019
raumdeuter:
90th minute. Any goal at this point a world cup final is lost and Boateng did not start shadow marking the guy on the left without the ball, he went for the ball carrier and won it


Raumdueter, I don’t want to believe you are blind. This is a through ball that both players were chasing. The Argentine player wasn’t carrying the ball and attacking Boateng. This scenario is completely different from the VVD scenario. It was a foot race between both players and Boateng decides to tackle once since he might not there before the Argentine player.

This scenario is completely different from VVD scenario. How you see something else remain a mystery. It was a poor finish from Sissoko though it was basic defending from VVD.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:46pm On Apr 01, 2019
Theflint1:
How can that defender possibly back away when he's running from behind the player grin grin grin

VVD's decision for that tackle was nothing short of genius especially since it worked

WHy cant the defender also run towards Griezmann and leave Giroud to go face keeper unchallenged? There was nothing genius about that VVD move except for the fact that Sissoko was useless.

If Rudiger or Phil Jones tried that, everyone on this thread will be abusing him

Its basically people living in VVDs rectum and anything he does is genius

VVD tackle Sisoko and gets the ball - See genius defending he knew the right way to tackle and stop Sisokko
VVD steps up and Sisoko passes to Son who is offside - See excellent defending to keep Son off
VVD tackles Sissoko and miss, ball deflects Son, -See genius what could he do in 2 vs 1, he ensured Son didnt get the ball in good position
VVD doesn't tackle allows Sisoko to shoot freely and he miss, - See genius of VVD he knew Sisoko was a bad shooter and he will miss
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:47pm On Apr 01, 2019
larride:


Rumdueter, I don’t want to believe you are blind. This is a through ball that both players were chasing. The Argentine player wasn’t carrying the ball and attacking Boateng. This scenario is completely different from the VVD scenario. It was a foot race between both players and Boateng decides to tackle once since he might not there before the Argentine player.

This scenario is completely different from VVD scenario. How you see something else remain a mystery. It was a poor finish from Sissoko though it was basic defending from VVD.

The Argentine already controlled the ball and was in control before Boateng got there, If Boateng was thinking like VVD he will move to the left to guard the Free Argentine and ignore the player carrying the ball because the player without the ball is more dangerous

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 7:11pm On Apr 01, 2019
Higuain is even more morata than morata angry angry

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 7:23pm On Apr 01, 2019
Kimbeast:
Higuain is even more morata than morata angry angry

This one enter o shocked

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Corrosiveman(m): 7:27pm On Apr 01, 2019
As for Me Van Dijk is good but Ovverated......there is nothing special in that stuff....What he did is what a proper defender who attended a good academy would do......I hardly see Van dijk slide to get the Ball or maybe he is trying to keep his Undribbled run.....A player like Dembele,Sane,Sterling would easily score that

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Theflint1(m): 7:40pm On Apr 01, 2019
raumdeuter:


WHy cant the defender also run towards Griezmann and leave Giroud to go face keeper unchallenged? There was nothing genius about that VVD move except for the fact that Sissoko was useless.

If Rudiger or Phil Jones tried that, everyone on this thread will be abusing him

Its basically people living in VVDs rectum and anything he does is genius

VVD tackle Sisoko and gets the ball - See genius defending he knew the right way to tackle and stop Sisokko
VVD steps up and Sisoko passes to Son who is offside - See excellent defending to keep Son off
VVD tackles Sissoko and miss, ball deflects Son, -See genius what could he do in 2 vs 1, he ensured Son didnt get the ball in good position
VVD doesn't tackle allows Sisoko to shoot freely and he miss, - See genius of VVD he knew Sissoko was a bad shooter and he will miss

Person dey shadow Griezmann already na...so he'd leave Giroud and join Boateng in marking Griezmann...who does that?? grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Theflint1(m): 7:49pm On Apr 01, 2019
raumdeuter:


The Argentine already controlled the ball and was in control before Boateng got there, If Boateng was thinking like VVD he will move to the left to guard the Free Argentine and ignore the player carrying the ball because the player without the ball is more dangerous
From VVDs runs you can see that he shadow marked both players, blocking a pass to Son and preventing Sissoko from shooting free....if that's not genius I wonder what is.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SkimpleD: 7:51pm On Apr 01, 2019
raumdeuter:


Bassey, the world cup final where Messi missed a penalty and where you watched it please
Leyqute Na my guy, but this line just made me drop my anointing oil for ground. Laugh wan kill me grin grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:31pm On Apr 01, 2019
Theflint1:
From VVDs runs you can see that he shadow marked both players, blocking a pass to Son and preventing Sissoko from shooting free....if that's not genius I wonder what is.

Sisokko shot free at the end only that he was foolish enough not to get it on target
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kamelot77(m): 8:32pm On Apr 01, 2019
iamrosheed:

Sarri and our last coach didn't have the set of players to play their attacking football and defensive football respectively, if Sarri get sacked the next coach will either be an attacking minded coach or a defensive minded coach, the players will perform for a while just like they did under sarri due to motivation or to get on good terms with the coach and that's a short term fix because in three to four month these set of players will get comfortable with the coach and that's it!! We are back to square 1, City spent 52M euros on Bernado and we spent 64M euros on Pulisic same role but a wide margin in ability, the main problem is the clueless board that signs player that are not good enough for CFC?
Come to think of it How many Chelsea footballers got into the starting eleven of their Country in the last internationals? Many of them were not called up as a matter of fact it just shows that these set of players are not good enough...
some of these players were requested by our past coaches, d board shd not take the entire blame.
sarri is too stubborn, we need to sack him quickly, a coach that still think 30yr Willian still av potential
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:36pm On Apr 01, 2019
Theflint1:


Person dey shadow Griezmann already na...so he'd leave Giroud and join Boateng in marking Griezmann...who does that?? grin grin grin



Boateng was way behind Griezman and any pass to Griezman there was no way Boateng would have convered it. See the below distance between Boateng and Griezman

Or why didnt Howedes just continue covering Griezmann instead of Giroud with the ball and bank on that Giroud is a poor shooter who might miss

Any pass to Girezman lands in the black spot how will Boateng catch up

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:39pm On Apr 01, 2019
SkimpleD:

Leyqute Na my guy, but this line just made me drop my anointing oil for ground. Laugh wan kill me grin grin

You know some people watched ball under canopy and its diferent from what others watched

Leyqute could have joined them to see Messi miss a penalty in the world cup final
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:40pm On Apr 01, 2019
raumdeuter:


Sisokko shot free at the end only that he was foolish enough not to get it on target

But Van Dijk blocked Harry Kane's shot on goal, your brain didn't tell you the reason he left Sisokko and his weak left leg to do the bad job.

You are just disgracing yourself here. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:41pm On Apr 01, 2019
airmark:


But Van Dijk blocked Harry Kane's shot on goal, your brain didn't tell you the reason he left Sisokko and his weak left leg to do the bad job.

You are just disgracing yourself here. grin

Blocking Harry Kanes shot on target was the reason he left Sisokko free to shoot on target? Your mumu deserves a national award
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by onegig(m): 8:45pm On Apr 01, 2019
raumdeuter:


WHo is the German player behind Boateng and how close is he to the Argentine

In the scenario below if Boateng missed that tackle how will the guy on the left not have a free shot on goal

Boateng miss the tackle and it becomes 2vs 1 or even 3 vs 1

But being a top defender he went for his man unlike VVD who was backing off his man like a coward

Guy. Take a chill pill.

There are scenarios you tackle the player.

https:///gifs/ygzlyRDRJ9Vsx6VpYf

Here is VVD in a similar situation to what you have been posting and won't allow us hear word about.

See how he tackled William? This and the one against sissoko is different so stop muddling things up. Yeah defending a 2v1 isn't hard but you could see the communication between VV and Allison. He clearly told him to stay put and not rush out while canceling the pass zone to Son.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:49pm On Apr 01, 2019
onegig:


Guy. Take a chill pill.

There are scenarios you tackle the player.

https:///gifs/ygzlyRDRJ9Vsx6VpYf

Here is VVD in a similar situation to what you have been posting and won't allow us hear word about.

See how he tackled William? This and the one against sissoko is different so stop muddling things up. Yeah defending a 2v1 isn't hard but you could see the communication between VV and Allison. He clearly told him to stay put and not rush out while canceling the pass zone to Son.


I cannot see your gif but is it a situation where attackers outnumber defenders and there was a passing option for the attacker?? Anyone who can see the gif should tell us

What is the point of telling Allison to stay put and make himself a target practice for Sisokko? What is the role of him in defence if he will leave the ball carrier and cover the runner so that he can shoot at keeper anyhow he wants

Here Boateng and the German defence were outnumbered and there were passing options but Boateng went for the man with the ball and didn't go chasing the passing option. That is why he was able to win the world cup by 26 while VVD was still struggling with Yoshida in Southampton

www.nairaland.com/attachments/9098568_boa_jpeg57c7676fb690cc1dc93d80be505190d5
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:56pm On Apr 01, 2019
onegig

I CANNOT see your gif
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:57pm On Apr 01, 2019
raumdeuter:


Blocking Harry Kanes shot on target was the reason he left Sisokko free to shoot on target? Your mumu deserves a national award

You are daft. His decisions in both moments differentiate him from idiots like Boathand.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SkimpleD: 8:58pm On Apr 01, 2019
raumdeuter:


You know some people watched ball under canopy and its diferent from what others watched

Leyqute could have joined them to see Messi miss a penalty in the world cup final
Hahhahaha. Abeg free my guy. We dey watch Arsenal match grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:00pm On Apr 01, 2019
airmark:


You are daft. His decisions in both moments differentiate him from idiots like Boathand.

His decision is why he has not won a CL and world cup like Boateng did by age 26 when he was still battling relegation in Southampton

if you are not mentally reetarded you wont be comparing a player who won the world cup and CL by 26 to a player battling relegation at that age
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by onegig(m): 9:05pm On Apr 01, 2019
raumdeuter:
onegig

I CANNOT see your gif

https:///gifs/ygzlyRDRJ9Vsx6VpYf
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:06pm On Apr 01, 2019
onegig:


https:///gifs/ygzlyRDRJ9Vsx6VpYf

I still cannot see your gif but is it a situation where attackers outnumber defenders and there was a passing option for the attacker??
In your gif answer this

How many attackers vs defenders do we have there?
Is there a passing option for the attacker?
How far away was the passing option,
Did the defender leave the carrier of the ball to go and mark the passing option?

Anyone who can see the gif should tell us

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Theflint1(m): 9:11pm On Apr 01, 2019
You're comparing a 2 on 2 situation to a 2 on 1 situation and even if Boateng did not catch up, the normal thing would still be for each man to go after a player and not the two players trying to slide the man with the ball grin grin grin grin

Even your man Boateng disagrees with you by not going after the man with the ball.
raumdeuter:


Boateng was way behind Griezman and any pass to Griezman there was no way Boateng would have convered it. See the below distance between Boateng and Griezman

Or why didnt Howedes just continue covering Griezmann instead of Giroud with the ball and bank on that Giroud is a poor shooter who might miss

Any pass to Girezman lands in the black spot how will Boateng catch up

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 9:15pm On Apr 01, 2019
No offense but all of una way dey follow Apari101 argue untop van dijk matter dey jobless. Imagine since yesterday una dey try force am to accept d truth, him no want, oya leave am na. Must he agree with u? Baba say him dey right 100% of d time, so na to just OK am.

If una like argue from now till next year, u know who no go still accept d truth.


#MyHumbleOpinion

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:16pm On Apr 01, 2019
Theflint1:
You're comparing a 2 on 2 situation to a 2 on 1 situation and even if Boateng did not catch up, the normal thing would still be for each man to go after a player and not the two players trying to slide the man with the ball grin grin grin grin

Even your man Boateng disagrees with you by not going after the man with the ball.

Boateng was behind the action and playing the role of Robertson in that VVD action

The main priority is the man with the ball which Howedes went for, Howedes did not go for Griezmann who was without the ball

VVD in that situation will go for Griezman and claim Giroud was a poor shooter and Griezz was the more dangerous player

That is why he hasnt been able to win the CL nor world cup

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