₦airaland Forum

MrTechy:
U are not getting the point, thought ur same buhari said nothing like subsidy?

tactius:
To all those who complain about fuel subsidies and how Buhari is paying a scam.

If Buhari had stopped paying subsidies, and had stopped controlling the price of fuel and had allowed marketers to set prices.

Fuel would be selling at 220 and above by now.

And you people would be calling the government anti people.

But the truth is, subsidizing fuel needs to stop. The 10trillion we have spent since 2006 could have been used for other things.

Esseite:
His question is very valid, why is subsidy payment higher now than it used to be despite increase in fuel price by almost 100%?

In essence, Why does the govt say we consuming more fuel now than in a time of plenty?

tactius:
You haven't answered my question.

Should Buhari have stopped paying subsidies since 2015 and allowed marketers to set prices of fuel. ?

Would you have complained if fuel prices had risen?

Me, I think that Buhari decision to pay subsidies us harming our economy. But if he had stopped, prices would have gone up, but you people would have been calling it anti people .

Subsidy is there because Nigerians want it. You do want it

Frankbaro:
Other things like what? What are the Nigerian masses actually benefiting from this government and subsequent governments.

Even after removing the so called subsidy, we still won't see what the money was used for.
Let them continue subsiding fuel, at least let that be our gain till the start giving us steady power supply.

After all what benefits do we enjoy as an Oil Producing Nation.

tactius:
You haven't answered my question.

Should Buhari have stopped paying subsidies since 2015 and allowed marketers to set prices of fuel. ?

Would you have complained if fuel prices had risen?

Me, I think that Buhari decision to pay subsidies us harming our economy. But if he had stopped, prices would have gone up, but you people would have been calling it anti people .

Subsidy is there because Nigerians want it. You do want it

tactius:
Yes, the whole subsidy thing is crooked, which is why it should be stopped.

But the thing is, many. Nigerians don't want subsidies to go even with all the crookedness because it means high prices at the pump.

That is what annoys me. Nigerians complaining about subsidies, and then they reject the only solution which is total removal.

Come o!what was behind the increase from 85 to 145? Wasn’t that subsidy removal?

Subsidy system is a waste

DMerciful:
Subsidy should go but that's not the point.
Bubu said if anybody tells you he is subsidising anything, that person is a fraud! Also if 'corrupt' GEJ was paying less the 'upright ' Bubu then there needs to be explanation.
All in all, subsidy has to go

EddyNumerouno:
No, he should double the amount

“There is nothing like subsidy. When I was there, we didn’t have it. It is just something by the government to loot money”....Buhari 2015

Buhari increased the cost of petrol from N87 to N145 to remove subsidy and ensure out refineries are working. What’s the result?

This man has no business as financial minister but he will still be cheered on by your likes

tactius:
You haven't answered my question.

Should Buhari have stopped paying subsidies since 2015 and allowed marketers to set prices of fuel. ?

Would you have complained if fuel prices had risen?

Me, I think that Buhari decision to pay subsidies us harming our economy. But if he had stopped, prices would have gone up, but you people would have been calling it anti people .

Subsidy is there because Nigerians want it. You do want it

ceejayluv:
But you remember the impression he gave during his first term campaign saying he doesn't know what subsidy is. (Presumable) Supporters like you went into an orgasmic frenzy to paint the former government black. Now, buhari is even paying More.

tactius:
So, we should keep paying into a.corrupt system that prevents investments,. Improvements, and job creation?

I don't get you Nigerians. You tightly criticise buharis subsidy regimen,. But you want to keep it at. The. Same time.

Well, we. Wasted 10 trillion naira. Since 2006

tiwiex:
One of Buhari's campaign argument was that subsidy is a fraud and we can buy petrol at a lower price even without subsidy. We don enter second term now.

You ask the wrong question. Buhari already said no subsidy. We pay subsidy for almost twice the volume before now. Did our consumption double?

tactius:
To all those who complain about fuel subsidies and how Buhari is paying a scam.
If Buhari had stopped paying subsidies, and had stopped controlling the price of fuel and had allowed marketers to set prices. Fuel would be selling at 220 and above by now.
And you people would be calling the government anti people.
But the truth is, subsidizing fuel needs to stop. The 10trillion we have spent since 2006 could have been used for other things.

tactius:
In 2016 the cost of importing a liter of fuel was 132 naira, and we were selling fuel at 87 naira.

Government raised prices to 145 naira, ending subsidy.

But eventually cost of importing fuel went up to 150 naira and kept rising.

Subsidy was reintroduced because government does not want to be removed from power over high fuel prices.

Buhari should have removed subsidies from day one. Yes, fuel would cost 200 naira per liter, but there would be investment in new refineries, lots of foreign investment, and at the end, prices would fall.

Akiara:
Dude....stop this obviously childish and 'paid for' narrative. How can you be critical of a 'Jonathan' Government that paid subsidy and at the same time 'Buharis' Government is paying double and even increased the pump price by almost 100%.
To curb subsidy your refineries must work...since Buhari assumed power has any refinery worked?..NO!!
So whose fault is it? ..Mine,Yours or Buhari's inept Government.
Stop supporting Nonsense. ...Buhari is a Scam

tactius:
You haven't answered my question.

Should Buhari have stopped paying subsidies since 2015 and allowed marketers to set prices of fuel. ?

Would you have complained if fuel prices had risen?

Me, I think that Buhari decision to pay subsidies us harming our economy. But if he had stopped, prices would have gone up, but you people would have been calling it anti people .

Subsidy is there because Nigerians want it. You do want it

Akiara:
Dude....stop this obviously childish and 'paid for' narrative. How can you be critical of a 'Jonathan' Government that paid subsidy and at the same time 'Buharis' Government is paying double and even increased the pump price by almost 100%.

To curb subsidy your refineries must work...since Buhari assumed power has any refinery worked?..NO!!

So whose fault is it? ..Mine,Yours or Buhari's inept Government.

Stop supporting Nonsense. ...Buhari is a Scam

Reference:
The criticism is about the perceived hypocrisy this government is enmeshed in when it cast doubt about the subsidy in the run up to the elections to get folks like you voting them in only to pay even more in even less transparent circumstances after raising pump prices. How the government has gotten away with this fiasco without serious inquest baffles me but proves Nigerians are eith unwilling or unable to be active partners in the governance of this country.

It is not simply a matter of whether each individual citizen wants subsidy retained or not. Nigerians are clearly split on this. It is the actions of this government that raises serious questions.

bixton:
How many foreign investors or investments in new refineries were initiated during the OBJ to GEJ regime ; None.
They all wanted to import the product that was never seen only to make claims from the government.
Is it now that any investment would be done given the economy?
I'd expected any government/the government to go into partnership with oil producing companies just like they did on the NLNG project and put up some refineries.

GolDRoger:
I remember buhari saying that
subsidy is a scam
that his government will remove it, that was in 2015

can i shock you??
Buhari's government has ended up paying more in fuel subsidy that GEJ did

#Hypocrite

Akiara:
Dude....stop this obviously childish and 'paid for' narrative. How can you be critical of a 'Jonathan' Government that paid subsidy and at the same time 'Buharis' Government is paying double and even increased the pump price by almost 100%.

To curb subsidy your refineries must work...since Buhari assumed power has any refinery worked?..NO!!

So whose fault is it? ..Mine,Yours or Buhari's inept Government.

Stop supporting Nonsense. ...Buhari is a Scam

Nukilia:
I don't get you! Are you talking in support of a government who while in opposition protested against GEJ subsidy removal and requested palliatives be put in place for the masses. This same government increased the price of fuel to a higher #145 deceiving the masses there's no more subsidy. I think APC has successes fooled the people of this country.

tactius:
You haven't answered my question.

Should Buhari have stopped paying subsidies since 2015 and allowed marketers to set prices of fuel. ?

Would you have complained if fuel prices had risen?

Me, I think that Buhari decision to pay subsidies us harming our economy. But if he had stopped, prices would have gone up, but you people would have been calling it anti people .

Subsidy is there because Nigerians want it. You do want it

tactius:
For telling the truth?

Subsidizing fuel is wasting money.

Yet. Govt. Does it because they don't want to be forced out of power.

You cannot criticize lifeless for not removing subsidy, and then say that removing subsidy is bad for Nigeria.

Subsidizing fuel is a waste

bilulu:
But he told us he stopped paying subsidy that's why pump price went up.... can you explain why pump price and subsidy payment went up same time?

, the country may have spent about N10 trillion in the provision of pump price subsidy on imported petroleum products from 2006 to 2018.

bilulu:
But he told us he stopped paying subsidy that's why pump price went up.... can you explain why pump price and subsidy payment went up same time?