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nigeriagospel:
Am from the south south region of the country , the structure of Nigeria politics will never make an Igbo man ascend the throne of president in Nigeria.

I believe in the saying nothing is impossible to achieve, but before an Igbo man could occupy that throne, the mindset of an average Northerner about the Igbo must be changed firstly.

The northerners with the belief they are born to rule frown at non Muslim not to talk of an Igbo they see as an infidel rule over them.

Take it or leave it , they see the East as a conquer
Territory , how do you feel when you win a fight with a fellow kid? You them as powerless and as someone that must bow to your wish, same way the north views the Igbo.

Nature has a role to play I'm this too,
Even if election are to be conducted free and fair northerners with their population will beat an Igbo man hands down not even talking about child voting that is norm amongst them.

At least president Abacha never stole LMAO

that was how the white said Blackman can never rule them,how it came to pass still remains mystery...As for the Igbo president,it will surely come to pass, how it will happen you and I don't know.

Oshigun:
You remain obsessed with this concept of SW not gaining the Presidency in 2023 yet you don't know how much of a vengeful loser this makes you appear. Your whole outlook is now pathetically about 'anyone but the SW'. Look, Yoruba candidacy in 2023 will be from a cadre of intelligent and proven performers capable of taking Nigeria to the next level like Osinbajo, Fashola et al. We don't have any Obasanjo-type 'business-as-usual' candidates who will regress Nigeria in the ruling Party i.e APC. Nigerians, including the North, will key into this concept - especially if APC do well in the next four years.

We Yorubas are far more politically sophisticated than you and we know how to build bridges/alliance and work patiently and doggedly for what we want. We look at permutations also and plan for outcomes such as the APC being popular and well-supported going into the 2023 race because of leadership efficacy and national development.

You, on the other hand, are short-sighted and not relevant so keep focusing on your myopic anti-SW vendetta. You won't even see it coming when we pull it off because you are so simple-minded you think stopping the SW is only about aligning behind a 2023 Northern PDP candidate if indeed the Party even nominates a Northerner. You are not smart enough to know the likes of Shetimma don't speak for the whole North. Otherwise the cabal would never have been defeated and GEJ would not have become President let alone go on to win a general election against Northerners like PMB himself and Ribadu.

You call them "born to rule' but many influential individuals from the North are honourable and visionary enough to be aware of balances which keeps life peaceful and workable today, tomorrow and for a long time after we are all gone. This was why GEJ won in 2011.

It is just a pity you guys call foolishness sophiscation. You are sophisticated yet since pre-independence till date, 2015 was SW first ever successful alliance.

We shall see where your sophistication will take you to in 2023. If you like field Mohammed or Obama, SW 2023 is a sanking ship. You can't betray Jonathan and the South and restructuring and think there would be no consequences.

gidgiddy:
Most Igbos are not too bothered about the presidency of Nigeria, they know that there are other things that are far more important than that such as restructuring and self determination ...
The mind of the Igbo man is business-like, the vast majority of Igbos don't care about presidency any more, it is not what will put food on the table

How dumber can one become!
You're one of those that make people abuse the real Igbos (not OSU that have been offered to spirits like you).
As at the last count, do you know those who call political shots in igboland are still doing everything to get just DSP and deputy speaker?
...and here you - nonentity are saying Igbos don't bother about the Presidency, what a mis-thought!

oilPUSSY:
Thé bolded has exposed you.. You belong to tribe that break graves.

If you had spent time in the North, you would have known that notherners don't know who is from SE or SS.
Go and check the name they gave Jonathan when he was in power..

You are not from where you claim you are from because the some SS where Jonathan came from Fought along side with Igbos till the end of the war . You should be more worried when Yoruba Muslim will produce the vice president of Nigeria.. (Let's not discuss about Yoruba Muslim presidency)..
Don't tell me that Yoruba is Yoruba.

Obasanjo a Yoruba Christian presidency was given to afonjas on a plater of gold because the two main political parties then decided to zone it to SW because of June 12 1993 crisis.

Have you asked yourself why Obasanjo was rejected by afonjas that's why he showed you guys paper. ?
Ask Tinibu.. In fact, Obasanjo killed one of your own Bola Ige, that will tell how useless you are politically and otherwise.
You guys won't smell that position again.
Even 2015 and 2019 election outcome was not determined by Yoruba

Afonjas are throwing owambe because they never imagined that a party they supported will smell the center since the creation of Nigeria.

You know when a child learn how to dance, he would like to show off because he never imagined that one day he will be on stage showing the world his @$$.
Come 2023, you will go back to your normal position. It's not a threat, it's a promise..
May God keep everbody alive ..

Oh my World!!..."the tribe that breaks graves" got me

No igbo man has ran on any major platform.

The first igbo to-do that will win.

Bighead9:
Your Tribe can never rule this Country. I'm done here.

Hey ya a, like that takes or put food on my table.

After Restructuring, Presidency will be freely available to the fittest and the Igbos will be the best. The Fulanis are afraid of this.

Oshigun:
You remain obsessed with this concept of SW not gaining the Presidency in 2023 yet you don't know how much of a vengeful loser this makes you appear. Your whole outlook is now pathetically about 'anyone but the SW'. Look, Yoruba candidacy in 2023 will be from a cadre of intelligent and proven performers capable of taking Nigeria to the next level like Osinbajo, Fashola et al. We don't have any Obasanjo-type 'business-as-usual' candidates who will regress Nigeria in the ruling Party i.e APC. Nigerians, including the North, will key into this concept - especially if APC do well in the next four years.

We Yorubas are far more politically sophisticated than you and we know how to build bridges/alliance and work patiently and doggedly for what we want. We look at permutations also and plan for outcomes such as the APC being popular and well-supported going into the 2023 race because of leadership efficacy and national development.

You, on the other hand, are short-sighted and not relevant so keep focusing on your myopic anti-SW vendetta. You won't even see it coming when we pull it off because you are so simple-minded you think stopping the SW is only about aligning behind a 2023 Northern PDP candidate if indeed the Party even nominates a Northerner. You are not smart enough to know the likes of Shetimma don't speak for the whole North. Otherwise the cabal would never have been defeated and GEJ would not have become President let alone go on to win a general election against Northerners like PMB himself and Ribadu.

You call them "born to rule' but many influential individuals from the North are honourable and visionary enough to be aware of balances which keeps life peaceful and workable today, tomorrow and for a long time after we are all gone. This was why GEJ won in 2011.

SW don't do " he is our son politics " bro.... even if Osinbajo was presented as candidate, the votes in SW will be split again..almost 50/50.... that's the mistake you keep making by saying "we Yorubas"
how many of those yorubas believe in your agenda?
a Yoruba presidency needs the mighty help of the north...

as for those igbos, they are delusional if they think PDP will present a northerner..

Oshigun:
You remain obsessed with this concept of SW not gaining the Presidency in 2023 yet you don't know how much of a vengeful loser this makes you appear. Your whole outlook is now pathetically about 'anyone but the SW'. Look, Yoruba candidacy in 2023 will be from a cadre of intelligent and proven performers capable of taking Nigeria to the next level like Osinbajo, Fashola et al. We don't have any Obasanjo-type 'business-as-usual' candidates who will regress Nigeria in the ruling Party i.e APC. Nigerians, including the North, will key into this concept - especially if APC do well in the next four years.

We Yorubas are far more politically sophisticated than you and we know how to build bridges/alliance and work patiently and doggedly for what we want. We look at permutations also and plan for outcomes such as the APC being popular and well-supported going into the 2023 race because of leadership efficacy and national development.

You, on the other hand, are short-sighted and not relevant so keep focusing on your myopic anti-SW vendetta. You won't even see it coming when we pull it off because you are so simple-minded you think stopping the SW is only about aligning behind a 2023 Northern PDP candidate if indeed the Party even nominates a Northerner. You are not smart enough to know the likes of Shetimma don't speak for the whole North. Otherwise the cabal would never have been defeated and GEJ would not have become President let alone go on to win a general election against Northerners like PMB himself and Ribadu.

You call them "born to rule' but many influential individuals from the North are honourable and visionary enough to be aware of balances which keeps life peaceful and workable today, tomorrow and for a long time after we are all gone. This was why GEJ won in 2011.

and as a yoruba, I'm wise enough to know igbos here do not represent igbos in real life..just like also reading nairaland will make one think all yorubas are pro APC...
a lot of yorubas will readily vote an Igbo candidate for president because they have a strong sense of justice.

farem:
How dumber can one become!
You're one of those that make people abuse the real Igbos (not OSU that have been offered to spirits like you).
As at the last count, do you know those who call political shots in igboland are still doing everything to get just DSP and deputy speaker?
...and here you - nonentity are saying Igbos don't bother about the Presidency, what a mis-thought!

Stop reasoning like an ignoramus. That some politicians are saying that the position of Deputy Senate President should be zoned to South East to reflect federal character, as provided for in the constitution, is a totally different matter to what is being discussed here.

The office of President is not one Igbos care about, theres hardly any Igbo man who will lose a minute of sleep over not producing the president of Nigeria. We Igbos don't depend on government like some other zones in this country. There are some zones who cannot breathe until the presidency comes to them, not Igbos.

nigeriagospel:
Am from the south south region of the country , the structure of Nigeria politics will never make an Igbo man ascend the throne of president in Nigeria.

I believe in the saying nothing is impossible to achieve, but before an Igbo man could occupy that throne, the mindset of an average Northerner about the Igbo must be changed firstly.

The northerners with the belief they are born to rule frown at non Muslim not to talk of an Igbo they see as an infidel rule over them.

Take it or leave it , they see the East as a conquer
Territory , how do you feel when you win a fight with a fellow kid? You them as powerless and as someone that must bow to your wish, same way the north views the Igbo.

Nature has a role to play I'm this too,
Even if election are to be conducted free and fair northerners with their population will beat an Igbo man hands down not even talking about child voting that is norm amongst them.

Oga south south is a geo-political zone which is under south east geographical territory

Being President of Nigeria is simply being a Managing director for the British Nigger Area Corporation, so in other words, you are not presiding over a “nation” like the likes of Germany, Japan, or Mexico, but ensuring the siphoning of resources abroad.

If any one challenges, then the armed wing of this corporation aka Nigerian army, will be sent to secure those resources and only that.


SO presidency is nothing. That is why you see Baba jetting out every week, or even spending months abroad in hospitals without anyone doing a dayum thing about it LOL

BluntBoy:
Which election did Shehu Shagari win fair and square? Is it the highly debatable 1979 election or the highly rigged 1983 election?

You wrote that Atiku was rigged out. In other words, he won because he used Igbo blood? Supposing Atiku won, you would think it was because he used Igbo blood? Smh.

This is nothing but delusion of grandeur.

I was about to give this same reply. Either he’s an idi*ot, a liar, or both. This is why they need to teach history in schools.

oilPUSSY:
Thé bolded has exposed you.. You belong to tribe that breaks graves.

If you had spent time in the North, you would have known that notherners don't know who is from SE or SS.
Go and check the name they gave Jonathan when he was in power..

You are not from where you claim you are from because the some SS where Jonathan came from Fought along side with Igbos till the end of the war . You should be more worried when Yoruba Muslim will produce the vice president of Nigeria.. (Let's not discuss about Yoruba Muslim presidency)..
Don't tell me that Yoruba is Yoruba.

Obasanjo a Yoruba Christian presidency was given to afonjas on a plater of gold because the two main political parties then decided to zone it to SW because of June 12 1993 crisis.

Have you asked yourself why Obasanjo was rejected by afonjas that's why he showed you guys paper. ?
Ask Tinibu.. In fact, Obasanjo killed one of your own Bola Ige, that will tell how useless you are politically and otherwise.
You guys won't smell that position again.
Even 2015 and 2019 election outcome was not determined by Yoruba

Afonjas are throwing owambe because they never imagined that a party they supported will smell the center since the creation of Nigeria.

You know when a child learn how to dance, he would like to show off because he never imagined that one day he will be on stage showing the world his @$$.
Come 2023, you will go back to your normal position. It's not a threat, it's a promise..
May God keep everbody alive ..

All this hate and bile...You sound like a mad man. What is going wrong on in your life? You can tell us, this is an open and non-judgemental space and thank God NL is anonymous.

uckennety:
Oga south south is a geo-political zone which is under south east geographical territory

Did your papa tell you that your nationality or ethnicity be “South-South”.

Are you a weather channel expression?

When military illiterates take over by force, they will call places “Delta”, “Rivers”, “Plateau”, “South-South”, and eventually “Amala”.

Stupid blacks

Who gives a fucccccck if an Igbo man is president? Would the Igbo president benefit me directly in any way? How many prosperous Nigerians out there (and they are in their millions), made their fortune, or make a living, because their tribesman is president, vice president, senate president, speaker, CJN SGF, yen yen yen this or yen yen yen that? ? ?
Buhari that is the president now, is milk and honey flowing in Daura?

I'm fed up with all this bullshit. Keep your presidency. The Igbo man is a born hustler and entrepreneur. He would prosper. He would fleece you off whatever you steal in government and assume ownership of the mammoth wealth grounded in 'verifiable' business. In other words fuckkk government. Go and steal, and we will collect the money from you and appropriate it to ourselves.

Baggers.

Yoga the average igbo man doesn't care who rules. We're more interested in who creates a biz environment for us ...and its slowly beginning to look like only an igbo man can save nigeria...

gidgiddy:
Most Igbos are not too bothered about the presidency of Nigeria, they know that there are other things that are far more important than that such as restructuring and self determination

Igbos have also watch for the last 50 years and seen that the office of the president has not helped those who who have held in the past, that much. The only Igbos who talk about Igbo presidency are the greedy politicians amongst them who want to get it such as Okorocha.

The mind of the Igbo man is business-like, the vast majority of Igbos don't care about presidency any more, it is not what will put food on the table

christiannorth wat many of u dont even realise is that most northerners and many yorubas believe gej is igbo...yet he won 2011.

Forget the few politically aware people here...most nigerian voters want good governance. Abiola did not win because he was yoruba...he won because his campaign spoke to more nigerians...atiku didnt lose because of peter obi...he lost because he is percieved as corrupt.

Igbo Presidency will come when it will come. And, when it is due, neither the north (whether their mindset about the Igbo had changed or not), nor the British, nor anyone else for that matter, can stop it. It will happen and nay sayers would be shocked.

By the way, that time is around the corner.

because of there selfishness they can never rule this country call one nigeria.

omotoniwa:
because of there selfishness they can never rule this country call one nigeria.

The ones that have ruled, are they better off than Igbos? Igbos are a resilient people, they don't wait for government positions such presidency or any other

The average Hausa mab does not know the difference between an Igbo person and the one who claims to be from the South South.

This is exactly the same way you (and the average person from the south) do not know the difference between and Hausa person and a person from Kanuri.

Or do you know any tribal difference between someone from the North East and those from the North West?

In a nutshell, by agreeing that an Igbo person will never be president, you are in essence saying that no one from your own region would ever be president.

Or were you not there when Ajimobi (from Southwest) referred to Secondus as an Igbo Man?

nigeriagospel:
Am from the south south region of the country , the structure of Nigeria politics will never make an Igbo man ascend the throne of president in Nigeria.

I believe in the saying nothing is impossible to achieve, but before an Igbo man could occupy that throne, the mindset of an average Northerner about the Igbo must be changed firstly.

The northerners with the belief they are born to rule frown at non Muslim not to talk of an Igbo they see as an infidel rule over them.

Take it or leave it , they see the East as a conquer
Territory , how do you feel when you win a fight with a fellow kid? You them as powerless and as someone that must bow to your wish, same way the north views the Igbo.

Nature has a role to play I'm this too,
Even if election are to be conducted free and fair northerners with their population will beat an Igbo man hands down not even talking about child voting that is norm amongst them.

Bighead9:
Biafra is a pipe dream, trust me.

Why should I trust you, are you God?? Name one thing you decreed on this forum that later came to pass.

Bede2u:
christiannorth wat many of u dont even realise is that most northerners and many yorubas believe gej is igbo...yet he won 2011.

Forget the few politically aware people here...most nigerian voters want good governance. Abiola did not win because he was yoruba...he won because his campaign spoke to more nigerians...atiku didnt lose because of peter obi...he lost because he is percieved as corrupt.

Atiku is in court already. Let supreme court determine if he truly lost that election

maryjames9:
I bet to disagree with your assertion. I believe in this life, nothing is impossible. Nothing ventured, nothing earned. I believe an Igbo man can be become the president of this country if the igbo put their heads together.

One strength that igbo and the South south have is that you go in the same direction all the time when it comes to deciding who becomes your leader. Your voting pattern is almost always predictable. You vote massively for PDP both for presidency and Governorship election. That is your strength. You can use this strength to your advantage. Negotiate and lobby the PDP to produce a candidate from your zone in the 2023 election and vote en-mass for him. Find a good,generally acceptable, accomplished, honest candidate and support him massively.

Furthermore, negotiate with other zone especially the South West PDP and even APC. Southwesterners would vote for a candidate they feel is credible and a man of great performance. Tinubu and the likes will not take this but from time immemorial, voting pattern of South westerners are not known to be one-sided. They usually vote based on issues and performance than party affiliations or loyalty to a political figure. Remember, Obasanjo lost gallantly his presidential election in SW his home. Who say, Tinubu or Osinbanjo or whoever SW produce come 2023 will win SW.

Then the north is where you have work to do. APC will likely produce a South Westerner as presidential candidate come 2023. You have 75 percent SS, 90 percent SE, SW split between APC and PDP as usual, PDP has made inroads into North, seeing by the strict competition to get the gubernatorial ticket. The deciding factor Buhari who command staunch follower is no longer in the race. North voted massively for him because they see him as a honest and sincere man. Buhari is out of the picture, so the coast is clear.

Finally, without strategic planning and having no united front, you will lose PDP to Northern candidate come 2023. Igbo can produce Presidential candidate if they get their acts right. There is so far no serious negotiation going on in producing a common front for a Igbo presidential candidate under PDP that I know of now, except for the barrage of hatred, insults, character assassination and denigration of certain SW individual and the generality of Yoruba population by the igbo. This will not get you the presidency. Your hatred to the Yoruba and Hausa online as well is not helping. Who knows an igbo presidency will change the economic fortune of this country up north like Trump has been doing. For me, I am a Yoruba and I honestly do not give a damn who becomes president, so long the individual have a Trumplike magic wand in the economic development and such a person is able to tactically deal ruthlessly with saboteurs, corrupt Nigerians across board.

keep decieving yourselves. What negotiation did yoruba man do to get the PDP ticket? the entire country agreed that sw should be president, thats why Obasanjo and Falae emerged in the end. And when the North wet awol in other to return power to the region the SS and SE disnt.look at the advantage of producing the Presidency if they renegade on the agreement then, thus still supported Obasanjo just as Yorubas did too. Bit today the Yoruba man is running up and down insisting that Ogbos should not be president. How about the Tinubu pick out one of their Igbo fellowers, we have an Ogbona and Ngigi, like they did in PDP back then, but noo ooo una must have it all. Your region have benefited morethan even the North west thats in power, have the VP spot and still want to be president at the detriment of other regions. bros, South East have.not been president for 50, North East has never produce presidenct beforr in ot history, your people have gotten presidency for 8 straight years, VP for a potential 8years and you enjoyed the best projects the APC govt has to offer ywt your greed wont let you see road.. Yoruba man will not be president come 2023, go and.mark it o. APC will split up, Buhari will as usual stand aside and say his hands are tied. The 2most formidable politician in the North after Buhari are in PDP kitty. Heheh your reverse psychology kole werk.

Those that have bn producing president what are the benefit of that to their regions? Tell me what average Bayelsan gained from Jonathan and Katsina from Buhari?

Igbos will never rule this country and they know that.The Igbos like to play opposition politics,in 2023 PDP will have an Igbo man as presidential candidate and he will be roundly defeated by a Yoruba man from APC.

KingOfThisnDat:
I was about to give this same reply. Either he’s an idi*ot, a liar, or both. This is why they need to teach history in schools.

Honestly, they need to teach history in schools.

Nairalanders are so emotionally than be realistic. some are noise makers .whoever they supported always failed .they always play game of sabotages to cover their wrong done but it is not their fault it is naturally either you succeeded or you give excuses but excuses come after failure and sabotage with insult follows it.