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| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by armadeo(m): 8:37am On Apr 14, 2019 |
Jaqenhghar:A man knows what he is talking about. Honestlynive said this before and will say it again if the job offer is ridiculous and downright degrading why accept it under guisenof I am suffering 850 a day is less than 30k a month. Why not join N power and teach? Why stay a slave on your own volition. Yet you'll still see them hustling for this same jobs that just killed people. As a man said make we dey do am dey go |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by armadeo(m): 8:41am On Apr 14, 2019 |
nograv:Yout two posts made me lol. Read the guy you quoted carefully and see what hes talking about. |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by Avast(m): 9:07am On Apr 14, 2019 |
I once worked in that factory, I spent 2 hours there and I jappa. very useless people, the guy that took me there was even begging me to finish that day job in order to collect just 850 |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by nograv: 9:09am On Apr 14, 2019 |
armadeo:Blaming Nigerians for the bad behaviour of foreigners in this country. Seems like you are as stupid as him. You do realise that you are backing up an Indian poster.. Clown |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by Nobody: 9:11am On Apr 14, 2019 |
They pay 700# per day, 7am to 7pm (including Sundays o) even during election.very wicked set of people . |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by armadeo(m): 9:34am On Apr 14, 2019 |
nograv:I agree with what he says not who he is. Yes I blame Nigerians for bad behaviour of foreigners. Truth be told if people are lining up to be flogged and you dont get on the line you wont be flogged. If we as a nation not the government now Nigerian citizens refuse the jobs offered by these people unless they pay reasonable wages they will either pay or pack up but when you grovel for crumbs you tend to get kicked. I read about how Nigerians collide with foreigners to the detriment of fellow Nigerians, I've seen it happen. As for the insult I wont respond to that. |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by 9jaRealist: 10:05am On Apr 14, 2019 |
ruffhandu:But I am sure that you have heard stuff like “Nigerian boss/housewife pours scalding hot water on his Nigerian domestic staff” or “Fire at Nigerian Company in Nigeria kills Nigerian staff” or “Nigerian boss fails to pay his Nigerian staff for several months”. Our campaign should be for safety standards/good working conditions from ALL NIGERIA-BASED EMPLOYERS, rather than succumb to xenophobic instincts. |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by nograv: 10:23am On Apr 14, 2019 |
armadeo:Well then you are a fool. An Indian man shameless calls our people Niggerians and you accept it.. Clown Two people in poverty or in a desperate situation have to take such jobs. They are victims of the Nigerian system as much as any street urchin begging or Olosho working the street. The fact that you are too dumb to appreciate this says it all.. In all other countries as some other posters have pointed out this problem is corrected by government not by the people. Only they can enforce labour laws and throw our foreigners who flout them..The ordinary people can only withold their labour. But when you are starving what choice do you have.. Seriously engage your brain.. |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by Jaqenhghar: 10:25am On Apr 14, 2019 |
nograv:Like I said comprehension is something you cant teach and for a clown like you its something your father cant buy for you even if he had all the oil in Saudi Arabia. We are talking of a people collectively you are already talking about yourself. It somehow has to be about you. SMH |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by nograv: 10:26am On Apr 14, 2019 |
9jaRealist:One wrong does not negate the other. Also the examples you cited are class based prejudice. Indians typically engage in RACE based prejudice and that is very different. One can work hard and change their class as my grandfather did. One cannot change his or her race and only deluded blacks try... |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by Jaqenhghar: 10:29am On Apr 14, 2019 |
nograv:Speaking for who? So far all you have done is make it about yourself and that you are from a wealthy family. Typical Niggerian mentality of he has moneyso he is automatically smart. Wake me up when your name is mentioned on forbes or you establish a fortune 500 company on your own |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by nograv: 10:29am On Apr 14, 2019 |
Jaqenhghar:You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. I have asked you repeatedly what are you? The fact you wont answer proves you arent Nigerian. So stop trying to defend your foreign brethen and be quiet. Dont you dare call our people Niggers again.. Mtchew. |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by Jaqenhghar: 10:34am On Apr 14, 2019 |
nograv:Ill call them what ever I want. And you my friend are the dumbest nigger of them all. I dont have to answer shít to you. You should thank God if not for your father's money I can only imagine the kind of life you will be living...maybe you will be one of them doing time in the steel factory and eating the Indian man's ass |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by nograv: 10:34am On Apr 14, 2019 |
Jaqenhghar:I have obviously touched a nerve. I am speaking up for Nigerians, the black people you shamelessly call Niggers. I have made my point and you couldnt refute it. So you kept banging on about reading comprehension. So I will ask you again so the enforcement of labour and indigene laws lie with the government or ordinary Nigerians? Also in a moribund economy can you blame desperate Nigerians for working for disreputable foreign employers? You wont answer because you cant? As I said before, you are not Nigerian so shut it.. |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by nograv: 10:36am On Apr 14, 2019 |
Jaqenhghar:Get out of here Foreigner.. Nigerians be careful whose advice you listen to.. You were all heeding the advice of a foreigner who calls our people Niggers. Let me be clear, I am not a racist. But I learnt in the west, when push comes to shove most groups side with their own even when they are in the wrong. I dont agree with that, but if thats they way others play I will side with my people every time. Now get the F out of here and go mix amongst your own people.. Mtchew.. |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by 9jaRealist: 10:36am On Apr 14, 2019 |
nograv:My examples has as much to do with “class” as does the original story... In other words, about the only relevance to class herein are the employer class and the employee class. If we legislate and implement adequate safety standards and good working from ALL NIGERIA-BASED EMPLOYERS, the race or purported class (unless you think that only poor Nigerians are employed in Nigeria companies) becomes 100% IRRELEVANT. I am not inclined to “identity” policy (or politics on NL), but when one actually thinks about it is even more disgusting/despicable when we treat our own as subhuman. |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by 9jaRealist: 10:45am On Apr 14, 2019 |
nograv:And btw, it should not (nor was it ever meant to) “negate” any malfeasance... But similarly Nigerian nationality should not “negate” the malfeasance of any employer. EVERY employer in Nigeria should be held to the highest possible standards... Quite disgraceful that many Nigerians operate (and others are condone) a virtual slavery system here in Nigeria. |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by nograv: 10:46am On Apr 14, 2019 |
9jaRealist:I have relatives in Ikoyi who do treat their workers badly. But they dont think they are racially superior, I assure you a lot of Indians DO!!! I have even had Indians say to me, "You are a smart black, but you have to admit a lot of blacks are really dumb" as joke.. They werent joking they believe it.. The problem is that blacks dont identify with each other. I assure you whites do, asians and everybody else.. Just look at the rise of Trump or Brexit in Britain ... |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by 9jaRealist: 10:53am On Apr 14, 2019 |
nograv:Many Brits, Europeans, and Americans (among others) in the UK, the EU and the US similarly believe that they are inherently racially superior to black people. The law is the only thing that stops them from overtly (or overly) mistreating their black employees. We cannot regulate the thoughts of individual human beings but we can surely regulate their ACTIONS! PS: And just btw, if you do not know that there are Nigerians who think that they (or their ethnic groups) are genetically inherently superior to other Nigerians, then I am afraid that you have NOT been on Nairaland long enough - or just have not been paying attention. |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by nograv: 11:23am On Apr 14, 2019 |
9jaRealist:I agree with you on the need for legislation, I have said as much in other posts. On whites thinking they are superior or having racial bias I have experienced that first hand. From guys assuming I cant code to folks addressing subordinates in a meeting only to be politely informed that I a black man is the boss.. Legislation can only achieve so much. As blacks and asians suffer higher unemployment and lower wages in the UK and US even when they are better educated. In shoet whites favour their own even when laws are in place and the black person has more skills than his peers.. Likewise I am sorry to say we should do the same. Nigeria is and should be for Nigerians. As the US and UK are for Europeans in the main.. So I will not accept some foreign bastard like Jaqenhghar coming on a Naija forum and saying ordinary Nigerians are the problem and that we are Niggers.. As for Nigerians thinking they are racially superior to others, I am saddened by this. I personally have never seen it. If you are talking about tribalism that is a different thing. I not against saying some groups like Igbo have more progressive, democratic and meritocratic values than say Hausa. But I think that is down to culture not some inherent racial superiority. I say this as a man who is half Yoruba and Igbo. But if a man says he his tribe is superior to another just because, I will quickly tell him to shut up.. |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by Jaqenhghar: 1:30pm On Apr 14, 2019 |
nograv:Keep yapping and calling my name. This issue is bigger than me, its bigger than you and your father's oil company. If hurling insults will make you feel better pls continue |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by nograv: 1:58pm On Apr 14, 2019 |
Jaqenhghar:Then answer my questions and stop being a coward. What are you? Ordinary Nigerians are not to blame for their predicament, it is Nigerian leaders that have failed them. Do you agree?? As for the issue being bigger than me, of course I know that. That is why push for reforming Nigeria, not its breakup as Nigeria will be the lodestar for Africa. Most Nigerians year think money will bring them happiness it doesn’t. If you are fortunate enough to travel and mix in elite circles, you realise how few black faces sit at the top table. How few of us actually sit across from others as equals. That’s why I rail against the mistreatment of my people. Unlike you who denigrate them and blame them for their failures. I maybe smart and have a bit of cash in my pocket, but regardless of my hard work, luck played a huge role (family etc). I am no better than any Lagos area boy or poor street urchin. They are victims of Nigeria’s failures.. I checked out your profile, I was surprised you had a picture of brother Malcolm of all people. You are one confused foreigner and you call our people and me a Nigger. Hilarious.. Gtfo... |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by 9jaRealist: 5:21pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
nograv:Rather rich considering that millions of Nigerians reside in and earn a livelihood all across the world... Reportedly transferring about US$25 billion back to Nigeria as remittances every year helping to keep Nigeria economically stable. Anyway, you just seem unable to grasp the point that I am making so I will not unnecessarily belabor same... I do NOT care about people’s racist or tribalist belief (it would great if these did not exist), but rather for equal protection under the law. |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by 9jaRealist: 5:31pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
nograv:BTW, Nigeria is NOT doing foreign investors any favors. It is a symbiotic relationship pursuant to which they bring in funds, create jobs and employ Nigerians in return for which they make (or expect to make) profits for their investment. It is for Nigeria to ensure that these relationships work well for Nigeria and Nigerians by legislating and implementing the best possible safety and labor relationship standards - and such standards should exist for EVERY employment relationship in Nigeria, regardless of the nationality of the employer (Nigerian or otherwise). Nigerian employers should NEVER be granted leeway and.or permission to exploit other Nigerians in a manner that we would be appalled (or not allow) if the employer was a foreigner. |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by 9jaRealist: 5:34pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
nograv:BTW, I do NOT agree with the highlighted... Nigeria’s condition is ultimately a culmination of the collective conduct (by commission or omission) of ALL Nigerians. |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by nograv: 5:59pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
9jaRealist:I like you, unlike the other poster you make decent points.. I agree there is some symbiotic relationship and no nation can develop in a vacuum. "It is for Nigeria to ensure that these relationships work well for Nigeria and Nigerians by legislating and implementing the best possible safety and labor relationship standards" We are not in disagreement hence my emirati example and I have said as such multiple times Nigerian employers should NEVER be granted leeway and.or permission to exploit other Nigerians in a manner that we would be appalled (or not allow) if the employer was a foreigner This is a strawman argument, I have never argued for differing standards for Nigerian employers versus foreign employers. What I have said, which you seem unwilling to accept is that a racist Indian would treat his workers very differently to a native Nigerian who simply feels he is better than his subordinates by virtue of class. A wealthy native boss may mistreat his fellow native workers, by contrast a racist boss of different ethnicity to his workers at the extreme end of the spectrum is likely to KILL THEM!! (This behaviour has been seen in the Americas and the Middle East re migrant workers). That is a huge difference that you fail to understand or refuse to acknowledge.. |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by Ugosample(m): 6:08pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
nograv:I have even had Indians say to me, "You are a smart black, but you have to admit a lot of blacks are really dumb" as joke.. They werent joking they believe it.. I've been told this before too. And even tho it sounds stupid I will not blame them 100 % Black folks in general DO NOT conduct themselves as intelligent people. there is no smoke without fire. that's the truth we might be intelligent, but the intelligent ones are outliers A cursory examination of the African society will show you that |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by nograv: 6:13pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
9jaRealist:I agree that Nigerians are partly responsible for their choice of leaders. I have studied the rise of other nations, particularly non white ones. A good proportion developed significantly without democracy Japan, Korea, China and UAE. The people had no influence on their choice of leaders. Great men stepped up and pulled their populations forward. In the case of Japan Meiji Emperor (period Meiji Restoration) In the case of Korea Park Jung-Hee Military Dictator (Period Miracle on the Han) In the case of China Deng Xiaopeng Dictator (Period Four Modernisations) In the case of UAE Sheik Al Maktoum Monarch You have other examples in the guise of Lee Kuan Yew who pretty much ruled Singapore from independence up to the present taking it from developing to developed in ONE GENERATION (hardly a great example of ever changing party based democracy) In Nigeria's case since independence not one leader has proven capable of governing the nation and propelling it to first world status. As I have shown you, the will of the people is often IRRELEVANT. What matters is the competence of the leadership at a National Level. Nigeria's leadership has shown to have been lacking.. Say what you like about Igbos, but they were obviously correct in their assessment that post independence Northern leaders who ultimately have come to lead this nation for the majority of its existence since independence were severely lacking in ability and capability to run this nation. As I said this is not due to some inherent inferiority but due to the cultural norms in the North. Till today Northerners have an atavistic tendency that leans towards their own historical practices over external ideas. This has resulted in them have less progressive and meritocratic values. This failing has impacted not only the North, but Nigeria as a whole... For example look at the use of Ajami script by the Hausa and Fulani. It is still largely in use for liturgical reasons in Mosques and is still used for Islamic Instruction. While that is admirable, there are many Northerners who are more proficient in that script over the Latin alphabet which is of more economic value. Contrast the maintenance of Ajami script in the North with use Ajami script by Yoruba (which was documented by British Colonials). The Yoruba have abandoned it completely and only a few people like me who have interest in it are even aware of its' existence... I await your response... Or you will simply duck this point altogether as you have done previously |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by nograv: 6:39pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
9jaRealist:Ahh this is where I will tread carefully as I make this point. But you are a bit naïve and ignorant as to how elites in other nations function. I had the good fortune of attending the same school as the children of the European political and economic elite (children of prime ministers and heirs to multi billion dollar fortunes). I am not saying this to brag, what is more important are socio economic trajectories we all had after university. Bar my skin colour I was the same as my white peers and I was often smarter than them. As were some other Naija boys who attended the same school with me. But interestingly when it came to jobs, the difference in how we were treated was clear. My white peers were employed faster with or without connections. They were given promotions faster and generally were favoured over us Naija heritage boys. Please bear in mind, we often had stronger CVs than they did In short Oyinbo favour their own, regardless of legislation etc. I have spoken to others raised in Asia who were white and they said they suffered the same thing at the hands of the Japanese for example. I explained it to you previously and you wished to gloss over this point. Like I said and I will repeat at board meetings at top investment banks or hedge funds I have often been the ONLY BLACK FACE THERE. Bear in mind that in London the population is nearly 45 percent non white. I assure you this isn't by accident it is by DESIGN!! You may wish to blindly follow your utopian ideals as I once did. But the cognitive dissonance for me became too much to bear. Thus I say again with a heavy heart, I feel that Nigeria should favour it's native born population first, then foreigners second. Also the huge sums of remittances from the diaspora is a testament to the tenacity/hardwork of these Nigerians abroad in the face of heavy racism and prejudice they face. I have lost friends to white racists who stabbed friends simply because they were black, I don't think I have ever heard of Naija folks killing an Oyinbo because he was simply white?? (they may have accidently done it as part of a kidnapping attempt for financial gain) You need to wake up I could even talk about how right wing political activity is stoked by so called moderate mainstream politicians in the west. You seem a tad naive.. The west makes sure the playing field is far from level and they favour their own!! |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by nograv: 6:46pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
Ugosample:My brother you know better than this "Black folks in general DO NOT conduct themselves as intelligent people." Take the media in London, currently London has a knife crime epidemic. The media happily portrays this as a black issue. I looked at the data, less than 45% of all stabbings involved a black person in London. Even if you take into account overrepresentation it still represents less than 1% of the overall London black population. Also looking at overall violent crime data since 2011 to 2019, it has been falling steadily. But if you picked up a London newspaper you would think black people have lost their minds and are part of rising violent crime epidemic. Don't let the media, especially the western one play you.. Even the England Riots which were commonly portrayed as a black riot. The trigger the death of Mark Duggan was actually mixed race man, half white and half black. His mother who campaigned against his death is whiter than snow. But it gets better, after some detailed analysis it was found that the racial makeup of the rioters was 50% white and 50% black.. The western media play games, you should get wiser to them.. ![]() |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by Ugosample(m): 6:47pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
nograv:I travel across Africa so I see for myself I am currently in Senegal, to leave this weekend |
| Re: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by nograv: 7:11pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
Ugosample:Ahh Within Africa poverty and lack of education is the reason.. Show me a poor person and you will see illogical decisions.. Even in newly industrialised nations in Asia, you will see people betray their poor origins doing the stupidest of things.. Cleaners washing electric lights that were on with a wet mop in Thailand being one of my favourites.. ![]() |
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