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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 2:30pm On May 02, 2019
Ibime:
Clearance should be far greater than tackles. Think how many times a cross or long ball comes into the box per game
Clearance can never be far greater than tackles for a CB.

In my own football experience, what most people use to rate CB are:

1. Interceptions
2. Tackles
3. Blocked shot
4. Clearance
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:34pm On May 02, 2019
afrodoc2:
He has this bad habit of jogging imperiously whether there is danger or no danger.
That is why more often than not Robertson, TAA and the others respond to goal mouth scrambles better than him.
He had no business strolling like that when there was so much danger. Ashley Cole, Carvalho and even your much maligned John Terry didn’t behave like that often.

Having said all that he is not as bad as you paint him though. It’s just the hype masters that went overboard with the praise. I don’t blame them too much sha, cos there are relatively few good CBs around.
He is a perfect example of an acivity former, defenders who will be pointing all the time instead of doing things. Making it look like they are busy or coordinating. There was a time he left his position went to contest an aerial ball with his own teammate collided with Matip and he was still pointing hands instead of apologizing

This was how Robertson who hasnt been compared to Maldini reacted to danger in crucial games delivering crucial blocks see what our best defender was doing

Robertson could have also turned back and fled from the scene
vs Ronaldo
https://j.gifs.com/q7ZY12.gif

vs Mbappe
https://j.gifs.com/lx7536.gif
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:37pm On May 02, 2019
Segedinho:
Messi,suarez was facing d goal cos it was more of a counter. ..his duty was 2 repel d motion hence d reduced motion. ....d ball was heading 2 net but unfortunately went 2 d bar n den d rebound. ..no 1 can tell were d ball was going. .so no defender would be tackling a running at an attacker without d ball....do u knw dat d ball could even go 2 were VVD was standing? ??that rebound was favourable 2 Messi alone. .......
LOL at the bold, Maybe this explains why VVD was ball watching for 2 goals, Because he cannot be running after an attacker WITHOUT the ball.

The same excuse was why he didn't follow Suarez because Suarez was not holding the ball, Messi too was not holding the ball

Suarez and Messi didn't need to hold the ball before scoring
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:41pm On May 02, 2019
Best defender in the world

Now your watch begins

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:43pm On May 02, 2019
Segedinho:
Messi,suarez was facing d goal cos it was more of a counter. ..his duty was 2 repel d motion hence d reduced motion. ....d ball was heading 2 net but unfortunately went 2 d bar n den d rebound. ..no 1 can tell were d ball was going. .so no defender would be tackling a running at an attacker without d ball....do u knw dat d ball could even go 2 were VVD was standing? ??that rebound was favourable 2 Messi alone. .......
Its people like you they are talking about here

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 2:44pm On May 02, 2019
larride:
Clearance can never be far greater than tackles for a CB.

In my own football experience, what most people use to rate CB are:

1. Interceptions
2. Tackles
3. Blocked shot
4. Clearance
You just dey use strong head. Who are the most people ignoring aerial duels won too?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Segedinho(m): 2:44pm On May 02, 2019
raumdeuter:
LOL at the bold, Maybe this explains why VVD was ball watching for 2 goals, Because he cannot be running after an attacker WITHOUT the ball.

The same excuse was why he didn't follow Suarez because Suarez was not holding the ball, Messi too was not holding the ball

Suarez and Messi didn't need to hold the ball before scoring
D scene were different. .VVD was at fault 4 d first goal cos d ball was a square . .and 2 some extent it was anticipated unlike d ball 4m d bar.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc2: 2:51pm On May 02, 2019
larride:
Clearance can never be far greater than tackles for a CB.

In my own football experience, what most people use to rate CB are:

1. Interceptions
2. Tackles
3. Blocked shot
4. Clearance
Interceptions, blocked shots, clearances all depend on positioning and reading the game, are low risk actions, and also generally form the bulk of your defensive actions.

Tackling on the other hand is a high risk activity that is more likely than the others to lead to fouls and cards. While it is a worthwhile skill to have it should only be used when absolutely necessary, and that usually happens when a defensive assignment has been missed earlier by someone.

Any central defender who depends on tackling more than the other skills is a calamity waiting to happen.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:55pm On May 02, 2019
afrodoc2:
Interceptions, blocked shots, clearances all depend on positioning and reading the game, are low risk actions, and also generally form the bulk of your defensive actions.

Tackling on the other hand is a high risk activity that is more likely than the others to lead to fouls and cards. While it is a worthwhile skill to have it should only be used when absolutely necessary and that usually happens when a defensive assignment has been missed earlier by someone.

Any central defender who depends on tackling more than the other skills is a calamity waiting to happen.
The bold is the crux of the matter. Tackles are high risk and should be avoided if possible. It should be a last card, get out of jail not your first go to when stopping attacks

The key skills for a defender are
Interception, positioning to shepherd the attacker to a less threatening area, blocking, there are some defenders who are calm under pressure and won't just boot the ball into oblivion but will pass out of the back. Those ones will have low clearance but higher passes
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Coutinho14: 2:58pm On May 02, 2019
Airmark about to lose $100 for betting against a busquets master class? how poetic
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by chic2pimp(m): 3:05pm On May 02, 2019
raumdeuter:
airmark who did it better
Bascard! grin.....I am a Big Fan of VVD but this had me hollering grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:10pm On May 02, 2019
afrodoc2:
Interceptions, blocked shots, clearances all depend on positioning and reading the game, are low risk actions, and also generally form the bulk of your defensive actions.

Tackling on the other hand is a high risk activity that is more likely than the others to lead to fouls and cards. While it is a worthwhile skill to have it should only be used when absolutely necessary, and that usually happens when a defensive assignment has been missed earlier by someone.

Any central defender who depends on tackling more than the other skills is a calamity waiting to happen.
Like Marcus Rojo

cc larride
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 3:21pm On May 02, 2019
Coutinho14:
Airmark about to lose $100 for betting against a busquets master class? how poetic
Deal terminated. Messi is a cheat, I go call my guy later.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by chidexxy007(m): 3:38pm On May 02, 2019
larride:
grin

Let’s see this;


Tackles: VVD - 35, TAA - 57
Tackles won: VVD - 25, TAA - 37
Interception: VVD - 40, TAA - 33
Clearance: VVD - 193, TAA - 54
Minute played: VVD - 3205, TAA - 2286


Tackles: VVD - 35, Robertson - 78
Tackles won: VVD - 25, Robertson - 48
Interception: VVD - 40, Robertson - 29
Clearance: VVD - 193, Robertson - 44
Minute played: VVD - 3205, Robertson - 3045


Tackles: VVD - 35, Matip - 36
Tackles won: VVD - 25, Matip - 24
Interception: VVD - 40, Matip - 28
Clearance: VVD - 193, Matip - 71
Minute played: VVD - 3205, Matip - 1445

Now looking at the above stat, you can see that VVD, TAA, Robertson and Matip have comparable tackles and interception but VVD has almost triple their clearance. Now make your deduction.


With this few points of mine, I hope I have been able to convince you and not confuse you that TAA, Robertson, Matip and even Allison have contributed heavily to the improvement of Liverpool defense.
Na why they said stats is like mini skirt.

It can be said that Liverpool's middle has been a no go area so opposing teams uses the flanks more often.
Considering also how attacking plus how high Liverpool's fullback usually starts games coupled with gengen football by Klopp, their fullbacks can accrue more interceptions and tackles than their CB..


P.S Van Dijk na mumu shaa. What was he watching for the 1st and 3rd goal?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 3:44pm On May 02, 2019
BlueRayDick:
But other top CB's don't run away from messi or phone a friend when they see messi na. They collect their dribble and live with it like Boateng did, Jones and the rest grin
Since Boateng fell, he has not stood up...VVD issa wise guy.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by chidexxy007(m): 3:50pm On May 02, 2019
patrickmuf:
Since Boateng fell, he has not stood up...VVD issa wise guy.
grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by chic2pimp(m): 4:24pm On May 02, 2019
airmark:
Deal terminated. Messi is a cheat, I go call my guy later.
Has Femiti agreed to the cancellation of the Deal?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by VargasVee(m): 4:30pm On May 02, 2019
raumdeuter:
This was Boateng facing Messi in a world cup final

https://j.gifs.com/m2Gobx.gif

Imagine Van Dijk in that situation, he will turn back flee and be using hand to direct Allison and Matip to go and face Messi
grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Taguchi: 4:38pm On May 02, 2019
airmark:
Deal terminated. Messi is a cheat, I go call my guy later.
airmark make sure you pay Femi his money cus I get share for there...no fall your Canadian hand oh... you no know say Messi Na cheat b4 you agree to the bet

be a man, like Dayo.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 4:42pm On May 02, 2019
HanksAnuku:



Mourinho!

Bombastic swagger grin
He still find a way to justify his failure and included pep.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 4:49pm On May 02, 2019
airmark:
You just dey use strong head. Who are the most people ignoring aerial duels won too?
Aerial duels from corner kicks and cross n nod into the box is what you want to use to judge best CB?

I’m beginning to suspect that you didn’t play amateur football as you claimed.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 4:53pm On May 02, 2019
Taguchi:
airmark make sure you pay Femi his money cus I get share for there...no fall your Canadian hand oh... you no know say Messi Na cheat b4 you agree to the bet

be a man, like Dayo.
Hahahahhahahahhaha...airmark you go gats be a man o! grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Taguchi: 5:03pm On May 02, 2019
diggz:
Hahahahhahahahhaha...airmark you go gats be a man o! grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
you know say him like to tackle Dayo ... during that comandclem fiasco him talk say Dayo makes peanut compared to him so if Dayo could honourably pay his $100 den make him no fall him Canadian hand...... cause me and chic2pimp get share for there
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc2: 5:05pm On May 02, 2019
Lol
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 5:05pm On May 02, 2019
TLona1:
Seen from somewhere

Goals against the Prems top 6, this season:
Messi - 6
Firmino - 5
Kane - 4
Mane - 3
Aubameyang - 3
Sterling - 3
Lacazette - 3
Vardy - 3
Salah - 2
Hazard - 1
Lukaku - 0
But Messi cannot survive in the EPL
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 5:05pm On May 02, 2019
chic2pimp:
Has Femiti agreed to the cancellation of the Deal?
Airmark is kidding....he will do the honourable thing if liverpool do not qualify ahead of barca.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 5:05pm On May 02, 2019
Taguchi:
you know say him like to tackle Dayo ... during that comandclem fiasco him talk say Dayo makes peanut compared to him so if Dayo could honourably pay his $100 den make him no fall him Canadian hand...... cause me and chic2pimp get share for there
Toooh.. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy airmark don enter this one walahi cheesy cheesy grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Roland17(m): 5:10pm On May 02, 2019
To be honest, Andrew Robertson's contribution to that Liverpool's defense is so underrated.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Taguchi: 5:11pm On May 02, 2019
diggz:
Toooh.. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy airmark don enter this one walahi cheesy cheesy grin grin
I just dey hope Barca no go Jones for Anfield sha
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by NLBigBoy: 5:19pm On May 02, 2019
The lengths some of you are going to just to suck van dyke's dicck is appalling.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 5:24pm On May 02, 2019
Roland17:
To be honest, Andrew Robertson's contribution to that Liverpool's defense is so underrated.
See this move, see how far behind Ronaldo he was and he caught up and blocked a certain goal

https://j.gifs.com/q7ZY12.gif

Meanwhile see what VVD was doing in that move in a CL final
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 5:28pm On May 02, 2019
Una no go calm down?

Match still dey open

Liverpool to qualify.......sue me to court tongue
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